Are you guys sure anyone can learn?
This took almost an hour, I enjoyed doing it hut it gave me a weird headache. Also its really fucking bad.
ref: Picasso Stravinsky
Honestly, if thats all you can do with a reference, you might want to find a different hobby.
everyone can learn, not everyone can excel.
>>2409946
Everyone can learn. It takes a metric ton of effort and time, though.
Keep grinding, anon.
>>2409946
I dissagree with the other annons,
you're clearly not going to be able to get that far if you cant even copy some fucking lines.
>>2409946
I'm right there with ya, just started going through the sticky and doing the exercises.
>>2409946
nigga, you learned to speak english and use a computer.
>>2410009
Just being realistic.
>>2410009
Mfw u give false hope
>>2409946
If you have a functioning brain you can learn.
Everyone's experience varies, OP. Keep drawing and studying relevant information and eventually you'll get where you want to be. Just don't expect immediate results like most whining beginners do.
>>2410076
OP here.
I've learned hard skills before (3D modeling) so I know it doesn't come overnight.
I'll keep at it. What should my next steps be?
>>2410082
learn how to do a cube
Next step: quit.
Ii mean you couldn't even draw his hands.
Just keep at it bro, and you'll be the next... Above average artist..? I mean, you're not going to be great or anything, you don't have the time for that, not the natural talent, obviously, but if you just want to learn to draw for your own sake, then you're on the right path!
Op here. Shit like this is my goal eventually 3/4 years
>>2410526
If you're saying 3 or four years, then maybe. if you're saying 3/4 of a year, then go fuck yourself. Also, this most likely isn't a realistic goal.... Maybe try for something a little more honest, like a caricature artist?
>>2410532
4 years. I've only got free time nowadays as I'm confined to my desk foe medical reasons.
^thread
>>2409946
Looks good, you have reasonable control of your pencil. You can do it if you keep practicing. Don't listen to these curmudgeons.
>>2410016
Yeah and this one has two arms and still can't draw for shit.
Sorry Op, but it's true, not everyone is born an artist and that's okay, maybe you were born a different kind of artist, like a musician.
All these people giving false hope
Toppest of kek.
OP just go do somthing else, you dont have the spark.
>>2410756
There's no such thing as spark. You have to think and plan and develop skill through training and study.
>>2410526
Can you post some artwork? Normal art
>>2410526
https://youtu.be/PbC4gqZGPSY
If you enjoy it, keep going. Your time and effort is for you, not others.
I hope you keep practicing and draw things that fascinate you. As you train your hand, you will also train your eyes and taste. Maybe you'll see that acheving >>2410526 isn't as important as you think now. Maybe you'll find something else on the road.
What is this gift, and spark shit you guys are talking about? Are you guys this autistic?
What the fuck, I know this is 4chan but jeez guys.
>>2410850
Some people are born better at drawing than others. I don't know what "spark" they're talking about
>>2410879
Trying to make themselves feel like special elitist snowflakes just because someone can't draw as well, literal autism
>>2410850
no spark no life.
>>2410082
Read the sticky, I think they've made a new sticky now which gets posted in the beginner thread, that might be helpful too. And check out drawabox.com, proko and sycra.
He doesn't have the spark
WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING
>>2411287
People giving false hope
>>2410886
I think they're being sarcastic. I mean. When it's done in mass like this, it's usually just shitposting. But, this is a little more shitty than than usual. And the thought that someone might believe them and give up is a real shitty thing to do. This thread's kinda shitty.
>>2411326
>>>2410886
>I think they're being sarcastic. I mean. When it's done in mass like this, it's usually just shitposting. But, this is a
little more shitty than than usual. And the thought that someone might believe them and give up is a real shitty thing to do. This thread's kinda shitty.
What If I told you its not sarcasm. Some people have spacial issues
>>2411408
>its not sarcasm.
This. It's the newfags who always are in disbelief of the type of people that have always used this site.
But yeah this is the artwork/critique board so lets make sure everyone stays on the journey as one big travelling family etc
Do you fucktards even ENJOY art? Why are you shitting on a guy for trying to learn a skill? Do you really think there's some exclusive race of artists born to contribute to the community and nobody else can reach their level no matter how much they practice, because they don't have the "gene"? Drawing is a hobby, rarely a career, but never something so important that you can exclude others who are determined to improve.
>>2411453
suffer for your art or give it up
integrity does not pander
the weak should fear the strong
>>2411453
do you even 4chan? this isn't a community with members that you sign up for. it's anonymous. you see what you want, decide to read it, not, respond, disregard, share your input, etc.
>>2411453
Good luck getting any serious responses, but let me answer for you..
These people aren't interested in putting other people down, they're interested in raising themselves up. And what they post on here is working for them, but does little for anyone else (depresses newbies and angers other lurkers).
But how can anyone be mad, when it becomes clear that these people who say such things are doing it because they need it. You can't even begin to imagine the kind of poison that they are struggling with inside their own heart.
And shame on you if you already knew the answer to your question and only wanted to bash horns with trolls. There is the one lone troll post and the whole ruined thread that comes after it when others engage them. Please, do yourself a favor and ignore them.
As my late grandmother used to say, nobody fights with a piece of dog turd for smelling awful, so why stoop down to a shitty person's level?
>>2411459
Why do you suffer for your art? Because it's rewarding. Are you saying that people trying to learn to create aren't suffering for their art enough by persistently working on improving? For them, success is much more rewarding because they have to suffer for much longer.
In fact, I would argue that those who claim to be "born with natural talent" barely know the meaning of suffering for their art. If you claim to have not had to work hard to improve your art, then you objectively have not worked as hard as someone who started off sucking at it.
>>2411463
>understanding 4chan
>not supposed to respond or share your input
ok
>>2411473
Moron, mediocre loser that will never amount to anything, that thing you call struggle is the reward! You idiot, sad little piece of dirt, the true suffering is your own eternal dissatisfaction and the misery of failure which is constant and inevitable.
There are people who make 'pictures' and those contented little retards (you) might enjoy their little '''''''''art''''''''s but the actual artists will never know this satisfaction; their only relief is released in the briefest moments as ink or whatever is spread across paper, their paper.
Is this the weekly '/ic/ posters that haven't drawn anything beyond a doodle in weeks turn on each other for catharsis' thread
>>2411485
I've been drawing crumpled pieces of paper
>>2411481
holy shit
is this copypasta?
>>2411485
I miss him so much
>>2411497
I despise this meme
Op here.
I know how 4chan works. Im suprised how many of you fucks are suprised.
4chan is a place where you post, shitpost, get shitposted on. Half of the fun is calling people Jews, niggers, and being autistic.
So I gather this: keep practicing. Will do. Any suggestions on resources? I'm following the sticky atm
>>2411507
on my experience, you only need practise for improve your art
I never take a book or something, no direct teachers, only youtube.
In fact, i cant draw looking/copy, because draw & copy are diferents skills i guess
i hope my vision of art can help you
sorry bad eng
>>2409950
Are you aware this is an excersice in 'Drawing with the right side of the brain' right? you're supposed to draw it upside down.
>>2409946
I'm not sure if everyone can learn, but I believe that putting effort in will yield results. From what you're saying, it sounds like you put in a good deal for a first step, so it sounds good. Lets hope you make a habit out of it.
>>2411507
The w/ic/i is a great starting point. It might not be all to your liking, but it has more than enough tutorials, books, pictures, and articles to keep you busy for years. Alternatively, seek out any artists you like and look into any of their advice/recommendations/inspirations.
I'd suggest mixing it up as much as you can to get as much as you can out of every subject.
WHAT'S SPARK
>>2411589
somthing all great artists have and OP can never have.
>>2409946
So what? What should be a 5 minute gesture drawing takes me 45-60. And every single one of them looks like a steaming pile of shit.
But I suck it up and continue to draw them anyway, because you don't get better by lamenting over "baby's first study".
Keep drawing OP
>>2410548
>I have the gift
Kek
What is this gift shit?
I'm what is near professional level now and I started worse than OP. Please tell me you elitist niggers arent serious.
>>2412104
blog?
Op here.
Today I grinder this out. I have problems with the left side of this shit.
>>2412160
Forgot pic
>>2412162
looks flat af m8
>>2412162
wow OP. dont get me wrong, thats a shitty drawing, but way, way way better than your origonal. Theres hope for you yet
>>2412104
He's just (poorly) b8ing, m8.
>>2410548
>i have the gift
Kill yourself.
That image is not that far of if you study a lot.
>>2411518
that's terrible improvement.
ante up your hours.
OP here, im still bad b
>>2414866
but getting better. Not sure why it sent early
Do I have the spark? Day 3 of drawing>>2414866
>>2414867
Thats fucking terrible, you dont have the spark
>>2411589
keep going on, that particular drawing is a good exercise to begin with for its a tough one due to disrespect of proportions from Picasso. Your brain struggles with what you see and what you know. That's why the headache :)
>>2409946
>This took almost an hour, I
That's literally nothing.
Anyone can learn art. They just have to be willing to put in many, many hours over many, many years.
>>2414866
I think that you becoming pretty bad would be an improvement. Right now you are fucking terrible. Read more books and practice fundamentals
>>2409946
there's a certain level everyone could reach given ideal circumstances no matter their level of natural talent such as time, motivation, guidance, tenacity, and resources. But not everyone has that available to them. so no.
>>2412162
Learn proportions,arms are supposed to be 2 heads,those arms are tiny as fuck
there are more problems but that one is the biggest offender
Literally stop trying to draw shit from Attack on Shitters, its garbage. Actually draw sketches of real life models that don't have distorted bodies.
>almost an hour
>>2410548
if it took you years to get to that point then you should kill yourself
>>2409946
You can but have to basically make hundreds and hundreds of these. The progress will be slow and you will need patience. You will most likely give up because most people do and it's okay because the world doesn't need more artists.
>>2410526
Hey man dont listen to the fuckers who say you wont make it. With enough practice you could propably nail this pic after 3 to 4 years.
>>2411507
what the fuck are you doing
clean that shit up
DON'T LISTEN TO FUCKING MUSIC WHEN YOU DRAW HAVE YOUR BRAIN FOCUS ONLY ON ART AND THINK ABOUT ONLY ART INSTEAD OF WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU LISTEN TO
>>2411507
Thats fucking disgusting.
>>2411507
>anything other than a mouse on a silver series mousepad
Fucking disgusting!
