progress thread
I didn't....
>>2372361
I'm seeing some serious sameface:<
>>2372361
no improvement--at all
>>2372361
your rendering improved quite a lot
Can we stop having one of these threads every week or another? Christ, how does someone else's progress interest you so much? Or it it that you want to make people complement your progress? Childish familyman
>>2372409
what
i quite enjoy watching people's progresses
why do you think fitness progress is a thing?
there are a lot more people who's living in this earth other than you boy.
>>2372361
Tear me a new one /ic/, i know you want to
>>2372467
It's nice, got a blog?
>>2372468
pls fuck off, take your "blog?" with you and never come back.
>>2372468
no i'm an hobbyist
>>2372409
Someone who didn't progress detected.
>>2372490
He is right you know.
op here, not my drawing. i just like seeing others peoples progress.
>>2372526
>not my drawing
>i just like seeing others peoples progress
Fuck off back to DA.
>>2372530
>DA
shit site
>>2372542
Suits you
>>2372545
aint taking the bait but sure, what ever helps you sleep at night and keep drawing fellow anon. have a good day
>>2372568
Fuck off.
Just one year.
>>2372587
just one year?
>>2372609
Yeah :)
>>2372614
Oh, one i'm using SAI and another photoshop, maybe that's why look so different.
hope i can get to draw more soon
>>2372626
sweet landscapes m8
>>2372633
jesus, what the fuck happened at 2015 july?
it suddenly got good
still suck at noses, hands, and feet...
Kinda not fair because the old one is from when I was like 12 and now I'm 20.
>>2372467
Please, anon, more Loomis this year.
>>2372637
Just because he started catering to your pleb "concept art" taste doesn't mean he got good.
>>2372609
Like this anon was something...
>>2372714
what's a loomis?
>>2372892
Sweet dude. it looks like you just suddenly started studying and improved massively
>>2372718
Rover! Rover! Rover! Rover! Rover!
>>2372907
rover?
>>2372892
Welcome back; Don't forget you're here forever.
>>2372626
Can you show me the one at 2015 bottom middle with the knights in the foreground in bigger resolution? I think i missed that one from you.
>>2373024
that bust 2/3 down
dayum
>> im still a new fag here
>nickname
>can't greentext properly
>call others newfags
>>2373024
I love those facial expressions
>>2373024
I love your work, anon
>>2373032
The picture says "november-december 2015, new to /ic/", pretty sure he was talking of himself.
>>2372626
do you have a blog, monsterlolifag?
>>2372626
Can you explain the appeal of the city destruction fetish.
Like I can understand most fetishes, at least in a way, but I don't understand how that can even be sexual
>>2373149
Nobody said his drawings were for jerking off to. I'm not sure why you assumed they were sexual, nothing in the drawings appears sexual to me. I think he just likes drawing it for fun.
>>2373161
What, you don't masturbate to your drawings ?
>>2372367
where
>>2373031
next year you should learn how to put things in a clear fashion + Calligraphy.
>>2373174
okay anon thanks.. ill try my best ..
>>im here forever
>>2372626
Love u rinfag. Don't ever stop painting.
Neva eva.
Tell mikufag he needs to catch up 2 u.
>>2373149
you wouldnt find it hot if a giant, petite girl in a bikini stepped on your face with her sweaty feet?
>>2372626
Nice progress rin. don't know why everyone idolizes you so much though
>>2372892
ayy lmao
Thoughts?
>>2373260
not mine just want opinions on how you'd improve it from there
>>2373260
I like it, wish the horse had actual legs though
>>2373213
I think he's simple and boring as fuck honestly
>>2373300
post your work
>>2373310
my work doesn't make ripped lolis destroying cities any less thematically stupid
>>2372892
The samurais are great!
>>2372467
Do some fucking gesture studies senpai
here´s my progress still gotta learn to use color properly
>>2373149
Not rinfag but I think that it's a good excuse to work on landscapes and draw muscle girls(which is his fetish) at the same time. I think that he's having more fun this way than if he were to draw plain old boring landscape studies everyday like Noah Bradley.
>>2372626
not even my fetish I love the continued theme throughout the years, don't stop what you're doing mang
>>2373317
did not delivered/10
>>2372409
It hurts to feel so alone and not always be the center of attention, doesn't it?
I need to git srs
>>2373522
how much do even draw?
>>2373528
I ate shit for a really long time because I thought I was pretty good at the time (compared to a lot of my weeb friends I was), so on top of not drawing all that much I had to unlearn the weeb hugbox shit. It's unfortunate but I'm still pretty young so I think there's time for me to gitgud
>>2372389
Don't be a nigger m8. He certainly improved, just not exactly in all the ways your special little heart desired.
>>2373548
> I'm still pretty young
How young? kekeke
>>2373558
I-I need an adult
>>2373548
are you a pretty lady.
we should hang out.
>>2373562
hod old of an adult? kekeke
>>2372635
I honestly feel like I need to study more landscapes, but thanks
>>2372999
Attached
>>2373091
Only pixiv and dA, sorry. pixiv member id 304834
>>2373149
I just like huge, powerful, cute and strong lolis, man. Destroying cities is the best way for them to show off their own power
>>2373213
>>2373455
>>2373190
thank you
>>2373595
I am new to /ic/
Do you ever post more of your non-giant loli art?
I mean there is no way you don't practice all sorts of landscape and figure shit all day long with your current skill level
>>2373600
it's really mostly work stuff that's barred behind NDAs, but really my figures and anatomy are still very lackluster. i do post my landscape shit sometimes, here's one of them i guess
>>2373606
Where do you get your work mostly if that's not a secret?
Which industry? Vidya games?
>>2373606
some 30second/1minute gesture shit
>>2373610
I work at a company developing mobile games.
>>2373603
i don't get it, wtf i did?
>>2373615
im suspicious of singular before and after pictures.
>>2373618
And why you just dont go fuck yourself? Do you know how many books i read and how many time I spend in this fuckin shit? A fuckin lot.
>>2373613
Oh man...I uh might actually need some advice if you are willing to give any.
I am a 19 year old guy who is trying to be a digital artist in a country where there aren't that many digital artists and I got some propositions from mobile game companies rising up here and there, no grand money or anything nor does my skill deserve it but it's not bad pay.
The two problems that I have is that while I might be above average here and the guys might like my art, I am shit compared to guys in proper countries so I really want to dedicate as much time as I have to study so that by the time I am in my mid twenties I actually AT LEAST partially know my fucking shit.
I am not sure if I should live off my parents for longer and just keep practicing and refining myself or if I should already start accepting these jobs, I am just scared to stop progressing.
Second thing is that I am a kid that grew up on pirated fucking CRPGs of ye olde, Ultima, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Wizardry. I mainly played Arena shooters, RPGs, strategies and Grand strategies, JRPGs etc. all my life and it sort of shaped me into this very typical /v/idya elitist kind of a shitbag, so I hate mobile games. Now that doesn't really matter for the job as long as it's interesting and gets you the pay, but mobile games are very often everything but interesting. Playing Xenoblade, Gothic and the like you want to do concept art for all sorts of amazing fantasy worlds, instead of just endless temple runs and "Insert X" Ninja.
Basically is it worth it to start working this early, is there danger of my progress slowing down and is it actually fun or am I in for a bore that I will not enjoy at all? I know the chance of suddenly winding up at CDprojekt Red or something like that as a concept artist is almost null but one can always dream.
Also fuck my dreams up if they are too childish and explain how the industry works if you could please, since it doesn't really exist here.
>>2373623
Also what are the chances of succeeding even if you live in a shithole?
I mean, I like to think that as long as you are actually dedicated, improve fast and put your stuff out on the net there is always a chance to get at least some interesting gig somewhere in the world...right?
>>2373522
are you me anon?
>hobbyist tier for years
>stagnate because normies told me I was amazing
>only now deciding to actually draw for serious
>>2373623
If you're concerned about your skill level, it's all about finding the right people who are willing to work with you. I am very fortunate to have had someone who was willing to give me a chance at my terrible skill level in 2012 but I worked my ass off everyday to get better as I didn't want to lose that opportunity.
It depends on the company you're working for. I used to think the same as you with regards to mobile games, but in the end i realized that there are actually playable ones in the mountain of shit. You can do some interesting things and the main draw is that you get to touch on a ton of different subject matters, not just the things you like, so you're forced to git gud out of your comfort zone. For comparison i've done stuff for Brave Frontier and Phantom of Kill among other stuff
It's up to you if you if you want to start early, but imo there's no rush
>>2373634
Interesting.
Final question if you don't mind, would you like to move to big vidya industry at some point?
Also all anons in general who have any experience with the field, could you also reply to my questions?
I have to go now, so thanks a ton in advance.
>>2373620
im not down playing your achievements, but mentioning that 2 pics is indicative of cherry picking.
>>2373643
I don't think I will, not anytime soon. Right now I get to draw a large variety of things (backgrounds, characters, weapons, etc etc) with various different styles (super anime, western, painty, etc) and unless I can be sure I can do that again I won't.
>>2373623
> Morrowind
That's my shit righht there
>>2373644
Believe or not i just dont give a fuck anymore, and we see ourselves in one year, faggot.
>>2373653
OK SURE IF IM NOT HERE BY THEN JUST MESSAGE [email protected]
>>2373654
Send the email of your mom just to be sure, i'm not gonna send pics of my dick for her, i promise.
>>2372587
that's literally 1 month's progress(generous, more like 2 weeks) after learning a little anatomy and construction
>>2373659
I'm open to suggestions.
>>2373659
post your work if this is 1 of your months.
>>2373024
You are amazing, dude.
>>2373652
fuck Morrowind man, it caused be to spend God knows how many hours lorefaging on bethforums, Imp Library, /v/ and /r/teslore later on.
I know way too much about Vivecs genitalia.
>>2373606
>it's really mostly work stuff that's barred behind NDAs
lol
>>2373715
what is this supposed to mean?
not a lot of delta from the last one, too many vacations...
>>2373732
I think that you might be sort of in your comfort zone; you especially lack male form
Of course you might be absolutely fine with that and this progress pic might not display even half of what you do, just saying
>>2373732
you got a site or blog?
>>2373740
Honestly, I don't like drawing dudes. I haven't been drawing much either and I got some new tools so I've been hitting the comfort zone pretty hard. Recently, I was focusing on backgrounds and coloring, but maybe I'll draw some guys. Who knows what will happen in 2016
am I allowed to post here
>>2373024
How did you achieve this level of dynamics and understanding each muscle, anon? What helped you the most?
>>2373771
references
>>2373732
What do you mean by "copied"; the red tag? You literally copied everything, or just the pose or concept?
I didn't know people do this... I am used to use references only when needed... (mostly because I dont like)
>>2373815
>>2373851
Copied usually means that he tried to reproduce the original exactly, maybe add some of his own style to it but if you compared it to the original then they'd be very similar. A lot of people who say they used a reference mean that they actually copied a reference.
Using a reference means you hunt around for images to use as inspiration for what you're working on or to fill in holes in your mental library. Say you're making some transformers fanart and you want your transformer to have a chest piece like one of those old cars from the 50s. You'd pull up a bunch of pictures of old cars to get an idea of how it looks instead of trying to find one that perfectly fits the perspective of your drawing and copying it
>>2373854
Updated
>>2373771
Basically, knowledge. I started focusing on anatomy from imagination only until I was decent at it, those end of 2013 drawings just show the same method as today, I'm just better at it now.
Learn the muscles, from écorchés, medical books etc, know where each muscle connects on what bone and then and only then you can complete with references.
>>2372467
porcodio
>>2373024
love this
>>2373895
>>2373895
ti piace frate?
>>2373895
MOSCONI
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How come some people progress in rather small ammount of time while for other it takes ages... :@ Fuck it. I've started learning fundamentals 3 months ago now, and I'm barely progressing. Although I've drawn well before this. For now I'm trying to get through Loomis.
>>2374137
post your work
>>2374147
You're copying the books instead of learning from them. It's not enough to redraw everything you see, you need to pay attention to the lessons they teach
The loomis mannikins are a simple way to represent the form and anatomy of the body in a pose. When he uses them in the balance exercises it's to show you the importance of maintaining balance in your poses, not so you can redraw them.
The list goes on and on. I see dozens of images of you copying the books but not learning from them and applying their lessons to your own work. If you only ever copy then you'll only ever get better at copying
>>2374147
>>2374160
I heard somewhere that I do need to apply what I learn to my own work, but there can not be any if I'm learning. Or I'm doing this wrong. I must be doing it wrong. I know all I'm getting good at is coppying stuff, and that is bad. How do I make my own out of lets say Loomis book? Practice drawing mannequins till I drop? :D
>>2374177
start with gesture drawing
>>2373756
wheres that picture that tells you to draw with your eyes and not your brain
>>2374208
Loomis doesn't teach gesture, at least I have not stumbled upon any in his book. Just proportions and mannequins.
>>2374230
well then looks for other tutorials? Anon you also need to figure things out on your own.
>>2374230
>>2374239
I know, Vilppu, Hampton, Proko are the ones that teach about gesture. And there may be more that I'm unavare of. I watched all of those(concerning gesture that is, not fully ofc) and I couldn't really understand the gesture that well. The ones I attempted to sketch appeared like crap.
>>2372892
How you've done the one from the 10th Jan 2016 and is there a name for that style ?
>>2373595
Isn't the angle of the giant loli's head wrong. Shouldn't we be seeing the part where the jaw and neck connect? I'm a beginner so I'm probably wrong though.
>>2374264
maybe not if she's looking down enough
>>2373024
Can you upload 2015 girl or reference for that? Thank you
>>2374264
Yes. The horns' perspective needs work too.
>>2373024
this is really good
>>2373865
Definitely seeing improvement there, nice.
>>2373595
I'm actually curious as to what your portfolio looked like when you applied to your first job.
I wish I had something more srs to post
Been in an art funk for the past year or so
>>2374998
just the stuff mainly in 2012 and a few landscapes
>>2375061
well you just drew him a bit different. You think you can find a better example?
>>2375066
>him
clearly a female eyes on 2 pic. however its tumblr art so it may be demisexual trans panplatonic non binary person
Filename says enough.
>>2375148
Did u even try senpai, step it up m8
>>2372361
blog?
>>2375156
>>2375148
>>2375061
I've been there. I'm only just finally coming out of my art funk and honestly, you need to force it. Just draw even if you hate it and it makes you cry. I find just doing gestures for awhile makes me feel a little better and more motivated even though they're kinda dull to do for me.
That said, there's subtle improvement, especially in the coloring and I think the newer pic is adorable honestly. :) Please draw more. You have a lot of potentIal there.
I've destroyed I think somewhere around 80% of all my drawings over the past 10 years.
>>2375154
Haven't we been through this once already?
I tried to make a progress picture for this thread but I couldn't actually find anything that looked better than what I did in 2010.
>>2375251
the perspective on your 2016 is fucked up. his left forearm and hand don't fit perspective and I don't see how you'd get both hands on that a gun angled that way with the far arm so far back
>>2375257
the color is nicer though, but have to agree with his point
Left is 2012, Right is last week.
Fuck I am in such a rut and I feel as though all I've done is stagnate more and more over the past several years. I need to actually buckle down and do some studies regularly.
>>2375409
you need to actually yiff in hell, buddy
>>2374699
here you go, was from a study thread on /ic/.
>>2375409
You went from drawing cute all-American girls to having a vile fetish.
>>2375409
Pic related, I think it will help you.
>>2375409
I almost want to fap to this but then I notice small errors everywhere, everything just looks a little off. It's good enough non-artists will love it, but lacks the little touches that would push it to the level fur haters will let it pass for sake of quality. You haven't delved into anatomy to give her that extra softness in subtle areas, you haven't looked into fabrics to properly indicate where her weight lies most heavily upon the bed, and I see nothing that shows you've dove into learning perspective. A lying down pose to you is a standing pose with a bed backdrop placed behind.
>>2375489
>>2375409
You are right mane, that cow monster is a big girl. she should look like she is exerting some force on the soft thing she's lying on, and on her own body.
Also the face is pig disgusting but I hate furshit so I'm not in a position to judge objectively. At least his lines are much better than on the left.
>>2372626
One day, I hope to be able to draw stuff I like man, just like you do.
A few weeks worth of progress, i think im getting somewhere. Not sure where that is, but its somewhere
>>2375508
I only get to draw what I like at home man, and I can barely work on them for like an hour or so a day but at least I can fully work on them during the weekends.
Have to push myself too seeing as how I draw at work all day too
>>2375066
I don't usually redraw things, this is the best I can do comparison wise. I feel like I always just change my style, not really improve.
>>2375197
Thank you, that makes me feel a little better. It's so hard to find the motivation to get started again, but you're right. Just gotta do it
updated a bit
>>2372626
i love you giant loli-san
>>2375627
everything was right until you jump the shark into tumblr
>>2375667
tumblr's just where i upload my images
unless you're talking about the monmusu-- i've been getting those commissions lately so i can't complain too much. if i could have my way, i'd just be working on porn or something.
>>2372626
Any recommendations in how to get into rendering backgrounds like this?
>>2372626
you draw a lot of girls.
>>2375627
you started in 2015? Nice, i love May. Bring me up as i want to get into art and first thread i enter is all these people growing in such short time. :3 fuckin really like the girl in the cap one especially
>>2375667
what the fuck are you even talking about
>>2375197
why dont we get more people like you here? I think if we werent such assholes about critiquing work than maybe said artist would be more compelled to improve
>>2373732
holy crap dude, you need to organize this more, its a complete clutter and I really dont wanna look at all of it.
>>2375888
Personally I find that people being mean about it drives me try to improve out of spite.
Not everyone likes that though and I imagine people don't usually expect it from here.
>>2375251
adding the kanji for death on his shoulder plate doesnt make it better desu
>>2375912
Sorry but that's actually false, it makes it at least 80% better
>>2375861
he didn't start in 2015 that's his progress for 2015
>>2375861
Drawing off and on for some time now. Started painting in 2015 though.
>2012
started drawing in college out of boredom with a friend, didn't think anything of it, it was just fun.Then i stopped drawing, nothing at all for like 2 years.
>2014
got a job, and most of the times i had nothing to do so i started drawing again, started reading manga and a few of my co workers draw like everyday, so i took it again.
>2015
Out of work, still drawing and shit, but i never drew everyday, i draw like 2-3 hours in 2-3 days a week, sometimes i don't even draw for like 2 weeks, nothing at all.
>2016
Still the same like 2015, but now i don't even know if i want to keep drawing.
I never took classes, or read tutorials or anything, i just drew what was in my mind of whatever i saw that got me thinking "i want to draw something with this". I never liked digital art, so that's not my thing.
I don't know, can you guys give me your honest opinion? should i keep drawing or not?
I just took the pictures out of my old dA acc and my instagram
pls respond
>>2373024
This also works as inspiration,thank you based anon
>>2376026
>should i keep drawing or not?
Yes but learn the fundamentals. so it will be much easier for you
>>2376026
Drawing or not is up to you. I like ur stuff btw
>>2372709
stay away from wrinkles in young people's faces
>>2376514
Stupidest shit I've ever read, have you ever drawn from life? Look at yourself in the mirror and make a cool expression, or a big smile. That guy's art is not good but the wrinkles are justified, she's smiling. Look I'm not often baffled with shit I see on the internet but I cannot fathom how a person in their right mind would say "uh don't draw wrinkles when you draw expressions cause they're young". You do know the face has its own particular anatomy and there are muscles being pulled there, right? Do you literally only draw anime?
>>2375409
Now I don't think judging a drawing by the subject is fair and I disagree with some of these replies, but is hard to compare anthropomorphic endomorph to anime mesomorph
The lighting is a lot better tho and I don't see any chicken scratches
keep improving
>>2374256
lots of layers and rubbing back said layers, texture play mostly over black white grey value study
>>2376528
Okay while true, it's also common knowledge that in art, every line on the face ages the person, much more so than in real life. For a stylized drawing like anime, it's doubley so. It depends on your drawing style whether or not the wrinkles will make them look aged or tired or not but more often than not, it does.
>>2376528
doesnt apply, lines are just for the sharpest contrast, hes right, no lines. He can shade it in like the rest of the competent artists.
>>2376528
Lots of People don't seems to understand drawing lines makes features way more proeminent than they really are. That's why it will make someone look much older. The cat bitch looks 40 years old here.
>>2372626
It's interesting that you actually made progress.
>>2376661
Why is that?
>>2375627
Nice. Could I get the Aria one please?
>>2375409
>>2375239
A lot of you guys are really new to this and draw really cool things
I don't ever practice and I can run circles around all of you.
>>2375627
youre starting to suck
>>2375423
>>2375457
>>2376785
Whoops. Forgot how anal 4chan is about furries. I chose the Undertale piece because all my other shit is werid fetish shit, pic related.
>>2375489
Thanks for the feedback; I'm gonna start focusing on some more anatomy studies and gesture to get a better sense of volume on my characters.
>>2375505
Yeah I'm pretty bad at environments, even worse than I am at the characters themselves. I'll work on that. The face is from a game so I'm not sure if your dislike of it is from something I did or from the source material, but I'll take that as feedback to get better at faces as well.
>>2376537
I appreciate the disregard for my poor choice of topic. I didn't even think about the difference in body types. Pic related is an anime mesomorph that I did recently as well. I guess I do see improvement in my lineart, but I feel like stylistically I'm pretty much dead in the water. I'll try branching out some more this year.
>>2373024
I'm jelly of your progress dude, I started at summer of 2013.
You started way earlier than me and I'm still in HS though.
Did you start during HS?
>>2375409
>degenerating
Well this thread's been an inspiring experience.
Thanks for posting anons. Know that you posting your progress is stopping some from giving up the pen.
>>2376883
You need to improve that torso.
What is going on with that belly button.
>>2376743
im guessing hes referring to the same thing i was the last time it was posted, people who start with img 1 usually stay at that level forever.
>>2376883
your anatomy is fucking trash.
>>2373024
jesus
>>2376883
gondola?
>>2373024
you got a blog m8? The jump from '14 to '15 is great. How much were you drawing?
Only started in december but I think it's good progress. Any advise is welcome.
>>2378345
Read the sticky. No you dont understand. Read the fucking sticky.
feb 2015 vs. jan 2016
>>2378345
>>2378479
Literally the only change is that you used a smaller brush to do your inks. gj i guess?
>>2378506
And it's a better looking result for it. Not to mention the character is way more expressive.
>>2376883
Hello my fellow Zoids fan.
>>2378345
dont draw anime
>>2378567
Well, it's just a different expression, not really a "better" one".
First one is from April 2014, the second is from yesterday. I kinda of screwed myself by no drawing much in 2015 and just fucking around, decided to get back into it and studying the tail end of december.
okay im not at home, so i made a shoddy quick comparison. and ive got a long way to go..but im proud!
>>2378615
i worked hard to get to this point and my new work shows more knowledge of fundamentals- and this is when i started studying.
i wish i had older comparisons, but im not going to "stop it". progress is what this thread is about
>>2378622
Comparing two drawings done in a really different way is a pretty bad way to show your progress though. You might as well have been able to make the second one in december and and still only be able to do paintings of the level of the first one.
you're doing it totally wrong.
>>2378627
heres a better catalog of my progress. i didnt know how to draw humans before december. I'm not doing it totally wrong. lol cmon mang. i just want to share my feelings of being proud with you
http://permanoobs.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3333&sid=f12d6f03ed62096c1c7be9e1a5f4fcd4
>>2373855
spend less time on searching for reference images and more time designing. Only a couple of these photos are even useful for what youre doing
>>2376769
Sure.
>>2376806
I feel you man, sorry. I recently made the move to Clip Studio Paint from SAI, hopefully I'll improve as I become more familiar with it.
>>2378655
Really not even coloring wise, or the fact the eyes are legit right next to each other? Or the head is too big for the body even anime style? Lol oh well back to the drawing board so to speak.
>>2373855
nice pic where'd you get it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNV-SJuKAro
>>2378682
from part one of that vid series
rate pls
>>2378799
Draw a Hotaru.
>>2378799
literally no difference
>>2378805
mikufag still sucks dicks, so?
>>2378838
might as well repost the first one too.
im worse now than i was 7 years ago
i havent been practicing
send help
>>2378957
ill send you pencils and paper u lil bitch
>>2378957
You need to help yourself.
>>2378838
I like your progress, I hate your rib cages.
>>2373024
goddamit im still in your 2013-2014 tier ;_;
