DRAW 1000: Human Anatomy Edition Ver. 1.0
This is it boys. This is where men are born.
Clean your work station and buckle up because the plans you had for the next seven days are fucked.
The rules are simple. Make 1000 drawings of the area on the human body that you have the most trouble with in seven days.
Tally up your total drawings per page. A simple suggested way to of doing this is to write it in the corner of each page when full.
The first and last ten drawings have to be from memory.This is so that you can post them in this thread for comparison and critique.
CHALLENGE ACHIEVEMENTS
POST YOUR ACHIEVEMENT TAGS WITH YOUR FINAL 20 DRAWINGS TO DISPLAY YOUR SUFFERING
> [FRESH OFF THE BOAT] It's your first time doing a draw 1k challenge. -> "This is new..."
> [WHITE NOISE] Do the whole challenge with no music. -> "It's so quiet..."
> [ANDREW'S HEIR] Relate every sketch to a vanishing point. -> "I can feel it's form!"
> [SPACEMARINE] Religiously check every drawing for perspective errors. -> "Something is off but I can't quite-"
> [PCMASTERRACE] Don't play a single video game the entire week. -> "Art is the superior escapism."
> [NIPPON] Don't watch any Anime the whole week. -> "t-the new e-episode..."
> [ASIANUMBA1] All of your drawings are done from Asian models. -> "More Chins then a Chinese phone book!"
> [BLOG?] Post each day's work online for others to see. -> "Blog?"
> [DISCONNECTED] Don't check any social media the whole week. (Besides /ic/) -> "I'll do this on my own but you can watch!"
> [RAGE QUIT] You stopped drawing for an entire day. -> "I fucking suck."
> [SAVAGE] Cancel something you were looking forward to. -> "You didn't need to anyways."
> [9ELEVEN] Say "Allahu Akbar" after every drawing. "Dude, what the fuck?"
> [SANIC] Finish before the deadline -> "SUPER SYANIC FYAST"
> [DANDY] You honestly enjoyed yourself the whole challenge. -> "Whens the next challenge?"
> [IDIDIT] You made it to 1k -> "Maybe I can get gud after all."
Godspeed boys.
>>2365775
like 1000 arms? this is the most stupid excercise ever
>>2365779
This should nip all those hand hiders. amirite?
>>2365782
well, hands could do. feet could do too. I'd like to try anon. believe me. but 1k is just too much because there are so many still lifes to do
Alright I'll do this. I just gotta decide between hips and upper arms. Should probably do arms since they're more complex, there might be too many repeats if it's just hips and I need to do 1000.
>>2365775
>1000 drawings
make it more like 100 or 200 and sounds good to me boss, even that amount seems like too much to some people.
what do people hope to achieve by this madness? doing things fast as fuck isnt going to make you improve if each drawing is done haphazardly
you're just going to burn yourself out man, and then none of the drawings will be meaningful to your learning
1k is just autism
lower it to 100 and you'll get people being productive
>>2365775
>1k drawings of stomach in various
>in perspective
>150/day
Assuming one would draw for 12h per day it means that he'd have to do more than 12 drawings per hour. 1 per 5 minutes.
Fuck that, I have exam session.
>>2365830
The challenge is meant to be difficult and to get you moving.
1k is not impossible. Do around 150 drawings a day of an arm or a head, for example.
You could easily be done in 4-6 hours a day.
>>2365775
Shitty achievement names but i kinda like the idea. I'll keep this in mind.
>>2365844
>>2365775
>get you moving
Are you fucking kidding me mate? Nobody is going to want to draw after sitting down for 6 hours a day (which is all the free time a lot of people can spare in their day) grinding the same garbage. This isn't a challenge, it's a motivation killer. Take a zero off, or make 1000 every 2-3 weeks and maybe it's be manageable, otherwise that's some stupid shit nomotivationfags and people who have no idea where they want to go with drawing fall for, and then think they'll improve from it, then quit after a few hours.
>>2365869
>"grinding the same garbage"
>ignoring the fact that it's an integral part of the human figure required to succeed in an artistic profession.
If you actually dedicated a week to it and tried your best, you will improve a lot. Imagine that!
More importantly, you sound like a cool person. Blog?
I'm in
>>2365881
a large quantity of drawings done super fast isnt going to help you improve. its better to actually put in some level of effort in each drawing, but do it a medium pace and mix it up a bit. yeah, you definitely need to know how to draw the human figure to succeed professionally, but taking this a serious study that will aid you is just delusional at that number
but nevermind that most of the replies in this thread are calling you out on that, great thread OP, your sarcastic meme spouting really sold the idea. blog??? xd
>>2365894
The general idea was based off of this story. I'm sure you have heard of it.
https://sivers.org/qlq
You don't have to do them super fast. You can do them throughout the day, as long as you do around 150 a day.
It really isn't delusional. If it doesn't work for you though, then move on or hide the thread.
>>2365775
ill probably just lower the number to my own preference. I would also suggest saying something along the lines of "make 50-100 drawings a day for seven days". it just seems a lot more reasonable when the number isn't overtly intimidating.
>>2365910
You can't do that, though, otherwise it wouldn't be a challenge. If you could arbitrarily lower the number, what would be the point?
>>2365910
I think I'll do what this anon suggest it doesn't seem as monumental
>>2365869
I had said I would do this but you and the other guys have a good point. If you're supposed to use reference for all but 20 of them, I don't think you could thoroughly look at your reference in this sort of cram time. I'm still going to devote this week to studying a body part but I'm just going to aim for 100. That's only about 15 sketches a day and I think that's doable.
>>2365914
what's challenging for one, may not be challenging for another... just because I lower the number doesnt mean it won't be challenging, it's just going to be a more realistic goal for me.
>>2365918
No where in the rules does it say that you have to draw from reference for all but the first and last 10 drawings.
You could draw from reference for only 100 out of 1000 drawings.
Or even only 10. It doesn't matter as long as you draw the first and last 10 from memory.
The whole point of that is to show how much you have learned.
>>2365775
Quality over quantity. Studies shouldn't be about mindlessly skeching as fast as you can. It's ok as a warm up, but to really STUDY you need to be super analytical about what you are drawing.
I have made more gains when I've spent more time on a single study rather than treating them as gesture sketches.
>>2365924
What's even the point of this thread if everyone is doing something radically different from eachother? Might as well go to the beginner or draw thread. Shit.
the thing I want is to be buried in references for this kinda stuff.
I understand a lot of people just ref porn, and faces are easy but I have no idea where to look for good male anatomy pics.
Anyone got some?
>>2365924
>>2365914
Yeah but you're supposed to draw something you have trouble with I could draw a bunch of arms this week just to say I drew 1000 arms this week but I already draw quite a few arms every week. All it will do is reinforce the flaws and problems I'm having drawing them if I don't study and nobody in the world is going to be impressed that I drew 1000 shitty arms. If I take my time and study 100 arms this week, the arms I'll be drawing at the end of the week will be far more impressive than the 1000 shitty ones would've been and I'll have knowledge that will carry on. I think it'll be more beneficial.
>>2365925
It's not mindless if you are REALLY constructing a group of forms, from different angles over a good period of time.
It helps to solidify your understanding of the figure in perspective etc etc.
Why does everyone here assume that you have to go as fast as you possibly can?
All it is is 150 drawings a day. lol
Maybe you are envisioning completed work? Or pretty detailed sketches/drawings?
>>2365933
You have to find that balance on your own. (Reference vs Drawing from memory)
Go ahead and draw 100 from reference. Then draw the remaining 900 from memory.
You can always have reference up to look at if you get confused.
>>2365928
The rules are pretty clear imo.
>>2365941
The other anons' points convinced me that basically any reasonable amount of time I'm going to put into drawing the referenced ones isn't going to leave enough time over for me to finish out the 1000 so I'll just draw my 100 arms and keep them out of the challenge.
>>2365775
>1000
>in a week
That's a lil bit too much, jus' a lil maybe
>>2365775
I thought you had 1000 high quality unique refs for us to draw
If you did, I might even try it
Sure
>>2365775
FUCK IT, EVERYONES COMPLAINING, IM DOING 1000 HANDS (30 seconds- 2 minutes each). SUCK MY DICK.
first batch coming soon
Practicing human anatomy via the Proko mannequins method. Told myself to do 100 by the end of this week. I'll attempt 1000..... I guess.
In some way, this was very motivational, dunno why though. Thanks for making the thread OP.
>>2366000
LETS GO
last one to 1000 is gay
>>2366085
KEEP ON KEEPING ON
>>2366108
I'm starting first thing tomorrow (going to bed).
Fuck yea.
>>2366108
haha dude those are so shitty compared to the first set. did you even try?
>>2366136
was trying something different, like just try to get a general form of the hand and only the countour counts, I feel if i do a 1000 hands i might as well do them in different ways
I've been resting on my laurels too long since I did the Bridgman thing. I'm awful at just about everything so that's just what I'll have to do, in time - if I can.
After wednesday I'll have a whole week off of work with pretty much no obligations whatsoever, so the timing couldn't be better for Hell Week.
My goal: 333(+1) "x" each day. If I can beat that, I will, if I can't make it that far either due to running out of time or without killing my hands I'll try and find a compromise. I'll figure that out as I go along, I guess.
Thursday: hands
Friday: hands
Saturday: hands
Sunday: thighs/knees
Monday: thighs/knees
Tuesday: thighs/knees
Thursday: lower leg/ankle/foot
Friday: lower leg/ankle/foot
Sunday: lower leg/ankle/foot
...and so on
In the meantime I'm going to need to find a lot of references.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e9adrI7IIY
I'm not 100% convinced 6 gorillian of one thing over a very short period of time is wise. If anything it seems like a good way to solidify bad habits, by practicing the same thing in isolation until it becomes potentially incorrect muscle memory.
I think the over all fastest way to improve would be to do many of one bit of anatomy you're having trouble with for one page, then figure draw the next page, then back to that same bit of a anatomy, alternating. That way you're actually applying your learning immediately, and not just forcing yourself to do something in isolation a lot without really digging that mental connection to the actual application of it through your brain.
>>2366205
what
>>2365775
You never draw and must really suck. A thousand drawings in a week is ridiculous
>>2366249
>A thousand drawings in a week is ridiculous
If you're talking about polished renderings, yeah, but if you're talking about Bridgman-style gestural sketches that are just meant to quickly articulate the structure and some of the anatomical information of a particular subject 143 drawings a day isn't far out of left field even for someone with a full time job.
>>2366259
>This
>>2366193
This is a good idea. I don't know if I'll go a full page in between but I'll definitely do some full or at least close to full figures intermittently.
>>2366193
It's what Sycra said in his video about iterative drawing - do 20 sketches differing a little bit from each other but then ANALYZE.
Point isn't to do things without thinking. Drawing 1000 drawings in short period of time won't let you look up for many references, so mostly you would be drawing the same thing all over again.
This means that even if you remember it perfectly, it will be for 1 pose.
Better option - 10 drawings from 1 reference, then again 10 from memory while introducing changes in the pose and then marking what's different between each other and which are good and which garbage.
Then move to different reference of the same muscle group, make 10 of them, then 10 from memory.
If you do it 10 times by 200 drawings you'll understand how groups of muscles interact with each other.
>>2366283
>Drawing 1000 drawings in short period of time won't let you look up for many references, so mostly you would be drawing the same thing all over again.
You can get the references ahead of time, you know. In fact, if you have hi resolution photos of nude models handy you have basically everything you need to get started right now.
>>2365929
/hm/
>>2366310
I was more concerned about rushing analysis part.
>>2365775
the cheesy dialogue with those achievements is so fuckin cringe worthy my butthole clenched
>>2365934
>All it is is 150 drawings a day. lol
>lol
Okay tard. Let's imagine you're somehow able to draw for 15 hours a day nonstop. Everyday for a week even. That amounts to 10 drawings an hour, or 1 drawing every six minutes. What can you possibly learn doing 1 new drawing every 6 minutes for 15 hours straight? Where's the time to find refs, or actually pay attention to them?
Why not try this challenge when you can prove that you can draw for even 8 hours a day daily? This challenge doesn't have you building good habits, nor does it teach you anything meaningful. If you think otherwise, be my guest and do your 1000 "not mindless" drawings then report back.
>>2366320
I agree. Someone already mentioned muscle memory coming and Sycra's stance on this. When he was developing his style, opinions of his style notwithstanding, he emphasized the importance of making very deliberate choices of how to present the anatomy or object and make it conform to the rules he'd set. He did a lot of drawings at this stage but really only a couple of pages exploring. Only once he felt he locked onto what he was looking for did he then start to crank them out as fast as possible to commit it to memory. He was explicit at the beginning too that this is best done by fairly experienced people who already know anatomy and gesture etc. Mass repetition has its uses but if anyone is thinking of using this method to learn anything, I don't think it'll be effective unless you do some slower, deeper studies and then do the repetition to internalize what you learn.
>>2365775
1000 drawings in a week.
143 drawings a day
6 drawings each hour (if you dont sleep or do anything but draw)
Yea, how about not. This will only make you ingrain mistakes you do if you dont take time with finishing your drawings properly, and putting in effort.
>>2366438
I've made it inside your mother and I will make it inside your sister.
>>2365907
>150 a day
pls
>>2366444
checked
>>2366083
there's been several motivational threads as of late. It's kind of interesting seeing some life being sparked into /ic/ once again.
I know 1,000 in one week sounds like much, but c'mon other anons, just aim for it. I'll try my best.
If i was a NEET, i might've tried this, but most people won't be able to put their lives away for a week, for an exercise.
>>2366455
They are stupidly over the top though. The one thing any decent sports psychologist or motivational speaker will tell you about motivation is that nothing is more frustrating than having ridiculously set goals.
It always goes the same way for 99% of people. You start out very hyped, thinking "YES IMMA DO THIS I'M SO DEDICATED JUST LIKE THE PROTAG IN MY FAVORITE ANIMU!" and then a few hours later, you realize you still have 921 drawings left. After a couple of sessions, you either start rushing it to the point where you aren't learning shit anymore, or you give up altogether.
If I were to design a challenge dedicated to learning anatomy, it'd be something along the lines of do 100 drawings of a different body part each week, do that for 10 weeks so at the end you will have done 1000 drawings. Small, managable short-term goals are the key to longterm motivation. Make something a habit, instead of an extremely taxing one-time marathon, after which you will be completely burnt out.
>>2366444
WITNESSED
How bout 150 thirty second poses a day (a bit more than an hour a day) or 150 one minute poses per day (about 2h 30 min a day)?
>>2366444
HOW TO MAKE GOOD GOALS - the guide for dumbass
>Specific: you have to focus on a single thing.
>Realistic: absurd number of reps with no challenge won't help to level up your skill
>Time bounded: you have to time your exercices, to be productive, rest enought and be focused.
>Measurable: you have to do it in a way you can compare previous exersizes so you can value progress (that's why time bounced is must).
I love the contradictory dismissals of this challenge
>IT'S IMPOSSIBLE
>YOU WON'T LEARN ANYTHING
>YOU WILL LEARN BAD HABITS THO
>my mfw when
>>2366630
Maybe someone should issue a new challenge then.
Everyone who's doing this is posting their drawings here, right? At least the first ten and last ten have to be from memory but you can use reference for the rest if you want. I say cramming 1000 won't leave enough time to make good use of reference and learn anything you didn't know before. So how about this:
I'll do 100 with the same condition of doing the first and last ones from memory then take my time and use reference for most of the others. I'll post my first ten here today, and more each day like everyone else. Hopefully some other people will do it like this too. Then at the end of the week when we all have to draw ten more from memory and we all post them, we'll compare the progress that was made?
>>2366653
>a challenge within a challenge
Now you're speaking my language.
I accept.I don't necessarily disagree with your line of reasoning but I already agreed to the 1Week1K so that's what I'm going to do. I'm attracted to the idea of brute forcing things because I'm quick to get distracted if I don't feel any outside pressure.
>compare the progress made
Let's raise the stakes. If it looks like the other guy has improved more, how about we do their challenge as welll? Nobody has anything to lose either way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAQlsgKvs9I
>1000
You might be a NEET OP but I have a life, that's way too much. Besides, drawing autistically for a short period of time won't help you much, you need some time to go back to the ref and study what's wrong.
>>2366542
P-please respond. I think I'd be fine with doing the first version myself, the second might take too long since I have school and tons of personal projects.
>>2366723
Well I really still think it'd waste my time to shit out 1000 drawings in a week but I'll call. Guess I better make sure I really pore over that reference.
>>2366753
Doing anything will help, you autistic regards.
>>2366778
No shit retard fuck, what a meaningless comment, learn to read. His point was about the challenge.
>>2365775
I will give a shot at this as soon as my vacation starts.
>>2366774
Sounds good, I start Thursday; see you then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DszlV5HA_gw
I think I will participate.
I wont be able to do the 1k number, because a) job b) eveningschool, but we'll see how far I can get.
1000 hands in a week, I can feel the suffering.
>>2366840
>>2366595
you as well or are you laughing at me?
>>2366846
anybody know a good place for hand references other than http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice/
>>2366850
your hand and a mirror
>>2366860
oh god.sure. fuck it. i have 4 small mirrors, lets go.
>>2366846
I'm doing 1k hands as well, just trying to find a bunch of refs before I dive into it.
>>2366868
make sure to share them with me handbro!
>>2366819
Alright. I'm starting today so here's my first ten without reference. My problem area is the shoulder and how it connects to the chest and the rest of the arm, although I have trouble with arms in general anyway. Tomorrow I'll use reference so we'll see what happens.
Anyone have a huge folder of ref files for stuff like this? I'd like to try my hand at it.
>>2365929
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
damn good site
>>2367429
T-This is madness
>>2367429
I'm not doing 1k though, only 100.
>>2367560
THIS IS DRAWING
Here you guys go, excellent anatomy book.
https://what.cd/torrents.php?id=73154399&torrentid=32707155
What are some good tutorials to look at when trying to do these?
>>2367663
Single-picture tutorials by deviantart anime posters are a good place to start. Avoid any comprehensive books where you might accidentally learn something though.
>>2367668
Thank you /ic/
>>2365775
Fuck you dude, I'm practicing perspective
73 today, hope to get a lot more done tomorrow
>>2367786
what are you using as reference?
>>2367805
/s/ and /fit/
>>2367786
Now THIS guys making gains. Damn...
i sure hope this works.
>>2367832
those lines reminds me of bridgman.
>>2367853
i'll take that as a vote of confidence :^)
The proko mannequins are no joke. I doubt it'll hit 1,000 by the end of Saturday, but it's still my end goal. Drawing my ass off, still got 890 to go.
I feel I may be over thinking these at times, drawing more in than I should. But simplifying is quiet difficult.
>>2366846
How detailed should they be? Regular 'ol sketches or full drawings?
>>2369054
>140~ drawings a day
What do you think family man?
>>2369057
Well I would like to know from people who have done this before whether a 142 quick sketches a day would actually improve anything. A quality vs quantity thing, y'know?
>>2369005
>>2369131
im in the midst of doing 1000 hands, we can use this to see if it works or not. ill probably take 2 weeks desu though
>>2369131
It wouldn't.
I did something similar a while back. After few hundred drawings, you stop paying attention and go on auto pilot. The result is that you have the understanding of a person who did 40 drawings, and the carpal tunnel of a person who did a thousand.
imho If you're going to do a challenge like this, you better have the mental endurance to draw each image correctly, otherwise you're just going to have to unlearn new bad habits.
I don't recommend doing this challenge. The only thing you gain from it really is fatigue, and bragging rights. you get better, but not nearly as much as you could have, if you just spent that same amount of time actually studying w/e you had trouble with.
I'd only recommend it if you were trying to get better at animating or something.
>>2369155
> bragging rights
stopped reading
Nosebro unlimited...more like FAGBRO UNLIMITED am I right gentlemen?
>>2369155
A lot of very good points, thank you for the reply!
>>2369181
LEAVE HIM ALONE!
>>2369181
>>2369181
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah you got me. I`m a fag. I almost got away with it too!
>>2369202
nosebro what's with the cent sign and pi you have on your trip?
>>2369204
That's their gender.
>>2369204
read it outloud.
>>2369208
>¢π
bretty gud
>>2369209
Ive run it through the search engines bing google duckduckgo and I think im an innovator.
Cent pi...senpai...fucking...weebs...
>>2369208
heh. made me smile. have a yoshi.
I doubt I can hit 1000.
It won't be possible since I got about 891 more to go, but I'm still aiming for 1000.
If I fail, I'll re-attempt when I become better at this.
>>2369265
you cant effort to be chicken scratching and redoing lines if you want to reach 1000 desu.
>>2369290
Alright then, will chicken scratch no more.
>>2367786
80 more
>>2369435
Nice, the ref and non ref divisions are kind of confusing though haha. I like the way you draw the gesture and construction of the hands.About how much time did you spend on each arm?
Startin
>>2369468
About a minute per arm
>>2369469
youre doing form in the palm but when when you start your fingers youre just ignoring said form.
>>2369478
How do you mean?
>>2369479
>>2369482
Oh gee, thanks pal
>>2369484
also stop forcing flat 2d palms to go 3d.
>>2367192
Here's some more, it's split up though.
>>2370301
I don't know if I could say I feel improvement yet but I'm glad I'm finally taking the time to find out what these muscles are really like. There are some shapes I'd been drawing that I vaguely understood but I keep finding myself saying ohh that's what that is? I feel like a lazy fuck for never doing this before.
>>2369478
>>2365775
screen cap this I might do it later
Hope this has less chicken scratch. Still trying to break the habit.
>>2369435
Delayed today, only 60
Alright, I woke up a little late but...h-here I go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQi7vk9Yzdk
First 50
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicidal_ideation
>>2371264
why are they squished?
>>2367816
does your pp get hard when you browse /s/ for reference?
>>2371522
I get hard when browsing both.
meme arrow time:
>rely almost exclusively on own hand for reference
>can't draw hands worth a damn even when looking straight at them (the completion of each and every drawing was like a punch in the wiener)
>instinctively cover my mouth when I cough using my "free" hand - lose pose
>instinctively hit ctrl-z when an errant line appears - lose pose
>run out of space on the canvas constantly and instinctively use the hand tool (h) instead of the scroll bars (the hand tool won't work when bound to the stylus itself for whatever reason, it seems) - lose pose
I've only done 88 now and it's been 4.5 hours since I'd begun this post. I can see the writing on the wall as far as reaching my goal for the day. I feel like I need to approach this with a bit more organization, and self-awareness regarding some of the things that appeared to have held me up - including a final decision on just what details to include or omit from the drawings themselves. I'm going to call today a failure, scrap the current attempt and start again from scratch soon, possibly tomorrow. I will still be drawing and studying hands intermittently all day, just not with a particular goal in mind. My poor results and the resulting anguished butthurt I suffered are proof enough that I'm on the right track as far as what I should be drawing, anyway. See you next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZJOqSU4xrA
>>2371522
>/s/
Let's be honest here, most of the guys on /ic/ start with drawing guys.
So yeah, better question is - do you get hard when you browse /hm/ for "reference"?
>>2370307
Figured I'd better learn some bones while I'm at it. I've never actually done that exercise where you draw the skeletal structure, the muscles, then finish it before now.
>>2371535
So does this mean you forfeit our mutual challenge? It's a bit early to give up, you still have six days. I only have until Sunday night to do quite a few more just to get to 100.
>>2371711
I really should do that as well
>>2371727
Nah I'm not going to excuse myself from that; I just have to come more prepared into this thing. I kind of jumped into it without even considering some of the logistical problems that come with drawing one-handed. Unless I can find a ton of high resolution pictures of hands in short order anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmUsHH5lxsA
>>2371864
http://www.quickposes.com/library The first 4 galleries are hands, there are more hand galleries below. I just want to say though, that you can't study hands and then do the 1000 sketches, because the whole debate was over whether you can actually learn how to draw X thing better while drawing 1000 in a week. A few people argued vigorously that you can and you'd have plenty of time to study your references doing this. So you could do some slower studies of hands and then draw however many are left of the 1000, which is what I'm doing with my 100, slow studies then I'll do repetition to ingrain it and at the last 10 test myself. But for you to prove the 1k method I'd say you have to do all your studying and sketching under the same time constraint. If you pre-study hands outside the time frame that moreso proves you can't learn while doing the 1k challenge. Just saying.
>>2371906
>I just want to say though, that you can't study hands and then do the 1000 sketches, because the whole debate was over whether you can actually learn how to draw X thing better while drawing 1000 in a week
You're right, somehow I was under the impression that anything was fair game as long as I drew 1000 in a week-but I see what you mean, that wouldn't make any sense when you consider the premise of our agreement. I'll constrain myself to drawing hands from observation and using what constructive methods I'm already aware of (and bad at) for the time being and see if I learn anything, then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hx8WTHcie0
>>2371945
Alrighty then.
This has nothing to do with anything, but I hate the Chargers so much.
These mannequins are starting to become fun. Sure, still got more work, but I've producing them a lot quicker. I struggled to get one done in an hour. Now I'm shitting them out in 15 minutes and they look a lot better. No way I can hit 1,000 by the end of this week, but I'll draw as many as I can.
>>2370838
>1,000 drawings are just too much for one week
lol @ all the hobbyists in this thread
>>2372346
It's impossible to retain anything even if you are a NEET and I know because I am one. You're only doing it to show off.
>>2372033
Hey man, while you're at it, experiment with line weight. Your drawings are good but feel a little dull. Put some variety in the line weights (easy way to do this: where the light hits, lighter, where the light doesn't hit, darker) and it'll level you up in no time
i might join the train, if there is gonna be a new thread. maybe even start. just do it, just do it, you can do it, dont give up. youre gonna get so good and mommys gonna be proud, friends are gonna be admiring you. other artists are gonna shit talk about how good you are. so just keep doing it and you pass even your masters. you'll be living in regret thinking i should of done it when i had the comfort of mums house and free rend at 18. you're gonna make so much patreon money and get alot of donations and maybe even make sketch book sellers for people who love your work to buy and pirate. so keep drawing.
>>2370386
>>2373536
>people pirating your work to study
>thedream.jpg
>>2373588
opinion on the wavy non constructed quick gestury hands? Especially like 259
Also for people who are intested in the process, i have discovered how to do knuckles that look quite interesting as well as a new plane comosed of the bones attached to the knuckles which caused an extra bump as well as the fact that there is a premuscle plane before you hit the arm ilustrated for example in 218.229 and 223.
All in all an intresting tale, Id like to mention that the moment of clarity for knuckles started at 229 when i did that side bone, and entered its completed state soon after at 233.
More info to come on my autism.
>>2373691
the clearest case of the premuscle plane would be 240 in this example, and the plane composed of the metacarpal is only illustrated when the perspective allows it.
So do a 1000 hands help? I mean ya, but lets see how much.
>>2373691
todays study
>>2374225
I already see improvement, enough so that I might actually try this out. I'll do hands, then next challenge will be hips and legs
>>2374268
II see those ilya eyes, just, dont. Find a better inspiration.
>>2374268
Why would you deface Hiraoki's work this way? anon please.
>>2372033
Which resource did you use to learn those mannequin landmarks? Seems a bit different than loomis.
>>2371711
A few more. I'm gonna have to get into the repetition part soon, but I do feel like I'm understanding this better.
Trying to also study at the same time. I need to watch some more videos on hand construction. I'm terribad.
>>2374415
I figure I probably won't be able to get this done in a week, but I figure if I draw 100 a day then that will only take me 10 days. Or I might just do 50 a day and in 20 days I should have drawn 1000.
>>2374558
at least draw a part of the arm! You're using too many lines choose your lines dont chicken scratch pass over line sculpt..
>>2374318
I'm only at 27 from here. Don't think it's gonna be possible for me to hit 100 by midnight tomorrow but I dunno..
>>2367832
I like your style!
>>2374645
wow, really cool
>>2372400
Don't know much about line weight but what you said
>easy way to do this: where the light hits, lighter, where the light doesn't hit, darker
Sounds very interesting. Will do.
As for my mannequins, I'm no where near 1,000, but I did get a lot done. Drew all day right once I got out of work. Even when I started procrastinating, it felt so nasty that I went back to drawing mannequins. This challenge was a lot of fun and I actually learned a lot.
>Which resource did you use to learn those mannequin landmarks? Seems a bit different than loomis.
Using Proko and Hampton's methods.
Going from the Bean, drawing structure, Robo-Bean, Land-Marks are a mix of Hampton and Proko, then Mannequinization.
Whenever I listen to proko or hampton and they mention a muscle or bone I don't understand, I just google the image for that specific body part and try to look for it in motion and how it looks stationary.
>>2374562
Okay will do. I guess I need to be more confident with lines and didn't think of the arm. I will do that too! Thanks for the advice!
>>2374663
Thanks anon! I might not hit 100 sketches but I do feel like at least I'm learning more about arms than I ever knew.
>>2374558
Took advice, trying to reach 100 today but I'm burnt out for now. >>2374562
>>2374225
>>2375056
update your tumblr you massive faggot
Would people recommend doing something like this if you're an absolute beginner?
I've sort of been scribbling while watching Netflix for an hour or two a night for the last two weeks, but that's all I've ever done.
>>2375138
Proko isn't bad, he feels more like a highschool teacher, then you move onto more advance subjects. Proko's landmark subject is WAY more friendly than Hampton's method. After learning Proko's landmark and robo bean, Hampton's landmarks should be "easier". Granted, both will provided a lot of info simply because I feel there's no easy way into the anatomy subject, however once you kind of grasp the subject you're basically good to go.
>>2375373
I've tried to give proko a try today, the most basic gesture stuff. And I believe I failed miserably. Doesn't look like I'm getting gesture at all. :\ I've also watched some other artist's explanation of gesture, and I'm not getting it at all.
Seems structure is easier to handle than gesture...
Also some people keep saying that copying should be avoided, but how do I learn anything if I'm not even attempting to draw it. And to me copying is one way to learn, or at least the one I know.
Eitherway - I'm lost again...
I'm fucking doing it. First timer here, WISH ME LUCK BOIS.
Gonna do hands
>>2375546
Don't worry to much about gesture for now. Practice it every now and then. I believe most of the confusion comes from where the lines are coming from. 2 mins are easier than 30 secs, so grasp 2 mins first. Attempt it, get frustrated, fail. Keep moving forward onto Proko's other subjects, though. Later, once he goes over landmarks and anatomy, gestures will make a lot more sense.
I had the same issue as you. I'd do gesture and not understand what I was going for. After going through anatomy, I now understand gesture and at this point I simply have to practice the subject to improve.
I'll take on this challenge, I need to practice eyes. Anyone have a good tutorial they can share?
>>2375593
Okay, thank you I'll try out something other than gesture for the time being. Maybe those beans he's talking about or landmarks. Either way there are lots of things to look for. And I think I'll postpone loomis for a while.
>>2375616
This might help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6-bCgRmcko
>>2375758
thanks anon
My final mannequin before the challenge. I had a lot of fun doing this, and I'll re-attempt later in the near future. For now, I need to understand and learn more from my other personal studies. I don't know shit about the face, so I'll learn about the face/head. My proportions suck, but that's the next subject from Proko's lectures, so this is nice to see.
I'll continue my studies as I attempt to draw my favorite art work and fail. Thanks a lot for this topic OP, I really found a way to push myself now.
>>2375293
eventually I will. Have nothing worth posting anyway when i finish the 1000 hands ill string them all together and do a mega post as well as other stuff
>>2375056
>>2376409
the last 650 hands are drawn on paper
(ijk fucking hands fuck you 1000 is so much more than i thought.)
>>2374645
Oh shit I forgot to do this. Here are the last ones I did, I couldn't make it to 100, not even 50 unfortunately. I tried drawing faster on some of these but forcing myself to go faster I kept making mistakes and I wanted to make sure I got things right so I'd go back and correct them. I guess in a way I failed even my own challenge, but I think my arm drawings improved at least. I'm not sure if I'll keep drawing arms anyway to get up to 100, although I have a thing I need to draw that's going to require me to draw about that many but I can't post them so we'll see what happens.
>>2376646
The one in the middle was marked ref too but I was combining two images and I just saw I accidentally cut it off.
>>2376557
>>2376646
I totally blew it. I know I've got a whole day left but I'll be at work tomorrow; I'm nowhere near close to 1000 and I've chosen to concede defeat at this point in time. This outcome definitely makes me laugh at my earlier posts and how ambitious and confident I was. Regardless, I'd like to try again starting this upcoming thursday. This time perhaps I'll switch to physical media and photos instead of digital media and my own hand which I was unduly adamant about until the very end.
My closing thoughts are I was in no way prepared for this and it makes me regret having not focused on this very important subject a lot sooner. The hands themselves are among the most characteristic and individualistic parts of the body and when I felt the discrepancy between my own hands and those that I'd drawn out of Bridgman books in the recent past I basically went into every drawing with an almost panicked, claustrophobic feeling. I was being more mindful of mostly-irrelevant details than necessary which bogged me down as well..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKXmiJ3_SpE
>>2376557
>>2378908
im just gonna take 2 months. i dont give a fuck.
>>2379188
WRONG FILE.
>>2378908
Well I guess neither of us completed our task but I think we both learned something along the way. Drawing something 100 or 1000 times is definitely good mileage, but I think we all pretty much agree that more time than a week is needed to make the most of it.
Incidentally, you have great taste in music, I've added almost every song you linked to my vidya playlist, and not just the ones from this thread. You're a cool dude loomis. I would redo the challenge with you but I think I'm gonna be tied up for the rest of the month so godspeed.
starting to take this seriously and going back to the basics and the beginning. starting off with drawing 1000 boxes from all different angles. first from around the room and references then from memory. im 30 boxes in
>>2379190
>>2379275
>Well I guess neither of us completed our task but I think we both learned something along the way.
I'd like to believe that. Personally I think (know) I have a lot more work to do on that front, but in the end that's all any of us can do is fight for that proficiency we might otherwise lack.
I think your original posts in the thread were pretty good ( >>2367192 ); hopefully this session pushed you even further, though I imagine we're all a little disappointed about how things turned out when it comes to our expectations vs. reality.
>You're a cool dude loomis.
Thanks.
Y-you too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoxpHLpIxGU
>>2381007
Thanks and yeah I think I did push myself a bit. I drew these arms the other day after the challenge and I was really happy with them (ignore goof faces). Even though it's really slight, I feel like I understand the shoulder connection and the forearm muscles better. I never got how the hell the flexors and radialus muscles were really arranged but now I'm starting to understand what all the little lumps were that I couldn't totally figure out. I'm pretty much taking to drawing arms every day as a warm up because I thought my first ones were pretty good too, the best I could do at the time, so I could genuinely measure how much I was learning and I doing this I realized how much I still didn't know. The most important lesson I've learned is I need to do this kind of study of every single body part, and then do it again lol. btw thanks for another fucking amazing song.
>>2366846
I hate drawing. Hands especially. But I'll draw these hands for the next 10 mins. My ability is shit, I will post my results when I am done.
>>2381079
Award winning.
But srs, My hands are about as shaky as an alcoholics on a sunday morning
>>2381095
at least attempt form bro,
This challenging got my arm sore. Gonna buy some light weights and do some shoulder work outs while drinking mauh protein shakes.
I'm stuck with the basics, so I'm starting with the Vilppu's exercise about capturing the gesture.
Shitty, but I'm going to rush it till the 1k.
Pic related. Starting now.
OP here.
I just wanted to say that I have been thinking about what everyone has said in this thread so far and I think it's awesome that people put in the work to draw as much as they could.
Although, I've realized that most don't have the time to put into the 1k and finish it in a single week.
Thus, I'm going to make a new revised version with a more realistic structure while still retaining a sense of challenge for those that do have the time to shoot for 1k .
Keep drawing guys. (σˋ▽ˊ)σ
To anyone who thinks this is a lot, just remember that animators do this for a living.
>>2382470
I think you just have to hit a certain level of competency in the fundamentals before it becomes more of a normal practice and not something seemingly impossible.
>>2382470
There's a reason why most hand drawn animated things use very very simple designs with little or no detailed anatomy. There's also a reason why it can take over a month just to create 1 minute of animation.
>>2382477
It's totally possible to draw 1k whatevers in a week, it's just not feasible to *study* 1k in a week. I could draw a thousand smiley faces in a week and I guess I'd be really good at drawing smiley faces. If I wanted to draw a thousand realistic heads from a thousand different references, it'd take me more than a week.
>>2382460
I don't think you should change it. It's perfectly doable. This should be the kind of challenge you keep failing until you succeed.
I feel like focusing entirely on one bodypart for 1k drawings would really skew one's skill set. It's all connected, what good is drawing the best goddamn hands anyone's ever seen if all you can place them on is a stick figure?
Then again, it's only one week, and I am catching the challenge bug.
How are you participants feeling about it?
>>2382553
>How are you participants feeling about it?
I suffered kind of a mental block a little under 5 hours into day one with 88 hands complete. I really struggled with it; I felt overwhelmed and intimidated with both the remaining volume and the resulting drawings themselves that I saw as being inadequate. Looking at it objectively I probably could have done it, but my willpower was just ground down one drawing at a time and I basically punked out for days on end after having failed my "borderline"-retarded initial goal of 300+ hands in a single day.
Besides the fact I failed miserably I actually liked the challenge and will confront it again soon. I might fail a few more times, but I feel it's "hypothetically" doable and that it's something worth attempting until I can do it.
With all that said, I think 700 is a more realistic number than 1000 and would still be an extremely tough challenge for anybody.
>the 700 club
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKeniQtvzAQ
>>2382608
Drawing is about feeling, man. Don't worry about the future.
>>2382460
It's fine the way it is. Though, it'd be nice to obtain more info on how to draw specific things. Currently learning anatomy and how to block in the human body, but I'm not sure how to draw the features of the face, nor hands and feet. Perhaps my studies will allow me to learn these.
