Artists who get popular on Tumblr improve far less than anyone else I've ever seen. After all, why put effort into improving or studying when you have thousands of followers willing to harass anyone who tells your art is less than perfect?
Anyways, what about them makes it so easy to pick out "tumblr artists" when browsing the internet? I find myself spotting them frequently whether I want to or not.
Nice job living under a rock for 4 years
Which people started the spread of this kind of artstyle, anyway? Can it be traced back to any specific propagators?
>>2357903
Don't know it began, but it's pretty obvious the "tumblr" style is just being hipsters toward the Anime style.
"different is better" is the mindset.
>>2357917
Feels like a cross between anime and Renaissance Disney/Dreamworks to me.
>>2357903
CalArts
A mediocre combination of anime and didney with little knowledge of anatomy.
They draw characters uglier to make them more "realistic".
>>2357903
>Can it be traced back to any specific propagators?
You want to insult the original dumblr fags for making hideous shit, aren't you?
By how the characters have button noses, large eyes and decent face shape yet still manage to be butt fucking ugly
>>2357935
Eh, that makes me think, when I began drawing, I was trying to replicate Araki's Jojo's style and really liked how it looked, must have kept that for two good years. It's when I began trying to replicate's Murata's faces that it slowly disappeared.
Now that I look at it again I can say some of these were ugly as sin.
Are there any people that actually pull off the "tumblr style" well?
As in they have a good grasp of fundamentals, and the resulting artwork looks good while still conforming to the hallmarks of the style?
My theory is that they are such an insular homogeneous hugbox all the artists ape each other and evolve a style as a cohesive whole.
naturally being tumbltards it's a shit style.
>>2357926
>Disney Renaissance
>that
Are you blind?
>>2358014
Phobs probably and the person(s)? that made all the tf2 comics and gay fanart
>>2358024
this
It's almost always ugly, but I'd rather see something other than generic cell-shaded anime girl #134,364,645.
>>2357935
>mediocre combination of anime and didney
DISNANIME!
>>2358038
at least when you refine an anime style you get something that looks nice. the whole point of tumblr's style is to leave it as simple-looking as possible. to put as little effort into your work so you can crank out shitty [insert popular cartoon here] fanart for self-validating notes.
>>2358014
Loisch
>>2357935
I always thought this was Tumblr style? Or maybe it's just slowly shifted into this being the popular style on Tumblr because of Adventure Time alumni.
> Red triangle noses
> :U lips
> Round teeth
> Tube arms and legs
> Sausage fingers with no joints
> Big round red cheeks
This type of art to me almost seems to be aping the simplistic charm of Kate Beaton while incorporating certain style elements very popular in animation right now (Specifically, CalArts style animation).
Hell, even Rebecca Sugar's art style degraded into generic work just to fit within the medium of animation.
>>2357865
I'm so glad someone else has noticed this.
There is a group of people who draw in this squash and stretch wide eyed style. Obviously aping someone else Yes, they're mostly on tumblr but they're also on Deviantart and have been there for years.
One of the more popular ones is this Vivziepop.
If you go to their page vivzmind.deviantart.com/ and start clicking on their friends you will notice a lot of them have the same style (their profile icons will be a dead giveaway) mostly emo shit or fur shit or a combination of both.
It's been killing me as to where they all got it from because I've used that site for years and noticed it get more and more and more popular and copied.
>>2357929
>CalArts
I'm starting to suspect this as well. And it's trickled down into Tumblr and Deviantart.
>>2358051
I think that's more related to the people themselves than their style. Everything they do is for social capital.
>>2358067
>It's been killing me as to where they all got it from
Jhonen Vasquez/Invader ZIM started it. But I wouldn't say that style is Tumblr, Vivz's work reminds me of deviantART.
> Lots of sharp edges
> Pointy fingers
> No real sense of line of action, the pose is going all over the place like a constellation.
> Poses are skewed because the artist doesn't understand stretch and squash
> Overly stylistic (And again, usually to the realm of being very very very pointy)
> Pillow-shading
> Tons of gradients
> Lots and lots and lots and lots of colors in a single scheme.
Sparkle furshit and all that.
>>2358057
I recognize this being the tumlr stylru from 2010-ish. I didn't think it was possible, but they managed to evolve into something even shittier.
>>2358057
>>2358057
You must be a special kind of retard if you think that you have to make generic shit to do animation.
>>2358082
Ironically, almost every piece of SU fanart looks better than the show itself, even without changing the design that much. Even Alexandrite looks better in fanart.
Although I guess that's what happens when your bar is already so low: Any drawing will be an improvement. Kind of the same with Adventure Time fanart.
>>2357917
It seems like dA rejects acting out the "LOOK GUYS WE'RE ABOVE ANIME, ANIME'S SO MAINSTREAM, WE HATE ANIME LOOK HOW BIG OUR NOSES ARE"
>>2357865
whats it like being this desperate for validation that you feel the need to make a circlejerk thread like this? go do some of your own fucking art you bitter waste of space.
>>2358067
>If you go to their page and start clicking on their friends you will notice a lot of them have the same style
Shit man. You weren't lying. It's kind of scary how their art all looks alike with very small deviations.
>>2358087
We're talking in the realm of western TV animation you daft autistic fuck. Unless you think this shit looks different, in which case, I applaud you for being able to type while blind.
>>2357929
>>2358067
The CalArts assumption isn't too far off.
A lot of the people who came out of CalArts use that lanky big head big eye style because it's easy to animate with. It grew in popularity as more and more show runners and artists are from there or aped the style.
That Vivziepop girl is a good example because as to why more animators in tv use the style because you can squash and stretch and cheat animate to get results the uninitiated would notice.
>>2358073
>Jhonen Vasquez/Invader ZIM
I think he was one of the first people to inspire it but there are many more that are responsible for it being what it is now. It's hard to blame one person though.
>>2358111
Wow Gumball and Clarence have the same body except one is wider.
>>2358067
>went to page
>clicked icons at random
Son of a bitch this is amazing
http://zsycho.deviantart.com/gallery/
http://zobeez.deviantart.com/gallery/
http://kibadoglover45.deviantart.com/gallery/
http://e-magnus.deviantart.com/gallery/
>>2358051
Pigeon is a fucking god.
why do they always draw characters fat
>>2358057
>Hell, even Rebecca Sugar's art style degraded into generic work just to fit within the medium of animation.
Well, she is jewish, so....
>>2357917
This doesn't bother me in the slightest, I'm all for people changing elements of cartoon stuff so it doesn't all like like anime, even if I'm not too big on the tumblr style.
>>2358150
MA NIGGA
>>2358094
i was feeling lonely and needed to get off somehow
why not join us anon ;^)
>>2357865
at it's core, it's animal crossing meets scott pilgrim. those are the main influences, but over time, they picked up rendering techniques from the gorillaz, and the stock expressions and poses from cal arts. top it all off with insane political correctness, and you get one of the most soulless styles in the history of art.
>>2357917
This artist put no effort or brainpower into redrawing this panel. The original is attractive because the shapes of the eyes, mouths, and noses (or no noses) work well together, creating a pleasing cartoon image. The tumblr artist just copied over it and inserted the most generic tumblr presets they could come up with without considering the balance of the shapes.
>>2358200
How the hell does he even comes with all those shits.
I felt like discovering a whole new world after seeing all his works. They're all fucking crazy.
>>2358214
Shit, forgot Pigeon is a she. Isn't she like only 25 years old too?
>>2358188
zozzle
>>2358214
tfw you'll never be a korean art god
>>2358094
>stop having opinions and dissecting things I like
Idk op with actually studying anatomy properly for sometime and not trying to be anime but different or didney but different you can pull off an art style more tumblrisque at least imo
Also notice how Tumblr style means
>drawing girls only
I dont really remember anyone nowadays drawing men - characters "with style". Except some fantasy Card Games who should draw knights or some shit.
Everybody drawing cute girls or waifus. Im sick of that and im not even a homo (writing this because every time i bring this some retard starts "LMAO IF YOU DRAW ANYTHING OTHER THAN GIRLS YOU GAY XDDD")
>>2358317
Wrong. Tumblr style has lots of guys, they just happen to be cute gays or betas/nerds/skinny lanky dudes/whatever the fuck ever is opposite of 70's typical manly.
i feel as though my artstyle is developing towards tumblr tier territory is their anyway to cure this
>>2358331
Tumblr style can still be good as long as you incorporate basic art foundation elements and design. Just like any style.
Look at Alex Toth for example: His work was great, but the instant they had to use different tools for animation and he lost all the inked weight to his lineart, it looked like shit. Small changes make a big difference.
>>2358331
Just stop it.
>>2358331
I guess if you post your work we could tell you what looks tumblr-ish about it. But if you already know, can't you just make an effort to draw those areas in a different way? Look at other styles you like as inspiration if you need to.
>>2358329
>Wrong
You are wrong. tumbr style girls and gays are basically the same shit.
>is opposite of 70's typical manly.
dont even know what you trying to say here
>ignoring 80s, 90s and 10s mens style/fashion/manliness.
> they just happen to be cute gays or betas
that's basically the "dumb blonde sexy doll with huge tits" version made by girls.
It does not count as "Drawing Men With Style or Giving the Same Character Design Care as When You Drawing Waifus/Girl Ocs"
>>2358214
I don't lurk here often but I'm just stopping by to say holy shit
>>2358329
those are even uglier than the girls
>>2357865
They all draw that same fucked up "D" shaped jawline. I don't get it.
>>2358143
>http://e-magnus.deviantart.com/gallery/
that's actually not that bad
or maybe it's just the context, because of the others you posted it along
>>2358210
also look at the perspective on the girl on our left side, we are seeing her from her below right and yet look at the boobs, mouth and chin
>>2358532
eventually you learn to just ignore those faggots. They are incredibly insecure and more likely than not incredibly jealous. Just filter out the legit critiques from the annoying bullshit on ic.
And good god is there a lot of bullshit.
>>2358382
Pigeon is a legit god among men and women.
>>2358540
how the fuck did I post that in the wrong thread? It is 4am I guess. time for sleep
that post wasn't meant for here
>>2358088
It's because SU is always so ridiculously off-model.
Everyone besides maybe a handful of side characters had 60% of their frames off-model and shitty looking, at least during the first season.
I think it's because they had a low budget to start out, but as it's getting more popular, they're putting more time in (and the animators are improving.)
>>2358529
I agree, it's still pretty tumblr but it looks like there's some skill/potential there.
>>2358111
The only realm you were talking in is the realm of your retardation. People can't read your mind fuckboi.
>>2358350
>same faces.png
Are you kidding? Those are all different.
>>2358569
Sorry key points like:
>Rebecca Sugar
>Had to redesign
>To fit animation
Weren't enough clues to tell you I was talking about western TV animation. Maybe go back to school to study comprehension and come back and you'll struggle less with reading 4chan posts.
>>2358052
Loish is actually a pro animator/storyboarder and her cartoon style is 95% renaissance disney, 5% 90's anime.
Putting her in the same bag as tumblrtards is like putting Basquiat with street taggers.
>>2358200
who the fuck is pigeon?
gimme a link to his site
>>2357903
As a dA oldfag I'm ashamed to say it did originate in deviantart. There was a bunch of Phobsfags who latched on her because lol cute yaoi nazis and tried to imitate her by completely misunderstanding her body-language exaggerations and key-featuring characters. These people weren't noticed in dA because being noticed in dA is a miracle but little after pro-ana/mia blogs got banned and tumblr stopped being "problematic" many of these invisibles grew distant because of the recent lack of yaoi nazis (yaoi mongols aren't ok because one is a bear and big, manly men are "threatening") plus the changes to deviantart's frontpage were making it harder to cheat your way into the day's most popular, so they migrated into easier pastures where they could explode in popularity by bandwaggoning slash fiction and fanart of shit like Team Fortress and Scott Pilgrim. They even latched on Penny Arcade for a while but were scared off by dickwolves. Style remenants are still there tho.
So yes, "tumblr style" started as pretty much a bunch of people failing to understand the basic techniques of russian cartooning, american animation and three-panel strips, but mashing it all together anyway because they're mad desperate for attention, any attention. Shamefuly it's become a movement to the aesthetic detriment of art history.
>>2358350
>Picking the worst possible example
>>2357865
I've noticed it, and as much as I don't like the look of it and avoid art from people who draw it, why should I care? Because they're making money? If their aspirations end at drawing stuff they like for patreon money, good for them. They're not affecting me, the part of the industry I'm in or the art I like in the slightest.
>>2358164
Fat acceptance
>>2358656
Forgive my ignorance but russian cartooning? I didn't know that was a thing. Can you name any examples?
>>2358656
>Shamefuly it's become a movement to the aesthetic detriment of art history.
just how much futher we can go down the drain.
>>2358675
Phobs is pretty much a modern mixture of Boris Efimov and Ivan Bilibin with some Andreas Deja fangirling.
What differentiates russian cartooning from tumblr style is that russians down shy away from representing people's most prominent features without the need to downplay or frame them like american cartoonists, or make it an "ugly is beautiful" statement like tumblrtards. You just have a fuckhuge nose, it's cool!
>>2358693
You are talking so much out of your ass it's not even funny anymore. Andreas Deja fangirling? Are you fucking serious? Dude was a good animator, don't get me wrong, but he has NEVER established a recognizable style of his own, let alone one that would have "fangirls" trying to copy it.
No one who draws in "Tumblr style" has ever heard of those russian faggots either. What /ic/ calls Tumblr style is completely derived of CalArts painting techniques and the Disney style that Glen Keane established.
You get fixated on improving so much you actually forget to have fun. When you are improved through diligent studying you have already lost an important portion of your creative brain. Art, of all things, shouldn't be a profession.
>>2357865
Tumblr art style is born if all your art knowledge is based on watching cartoons anime and reading those "tutorial images" that circulate around.
>>2358728
>Art, of all things, shouldn't be a profession.
Yeah, I'm sure you would be totally fine with never again watching a movie, a tv show, playing a video game, reading a graphic novel, having your children watch a cartoon or read a children book or anything else that requires professional artists.. You fucking braindead retard.
>>2358656
I barely understood anything you said because of the terms you used.
>>2358734
you are the retard if you think none of those will happen again, you will be surprised when people actually willing to do these things fucking do them instead of desk monkeys
it's like talking to a brick wall
>>2358551
I watched a bit of the show because I can't deconstruct and criticize a show without at least watching it. The characters scale changes constantly. Short characters randomly change size. I've seen fans of the show complain about some of the storyboard artists changing character's designs and it being noticeable.
>>2358719
>the Disney style that Glen Keane established.
I'm not seeing it.
>>2358732
Well, shit. Maybe we should change the sticky. The tumblr approach clearly seems to wield far superior and more appealing resultst than our Loomis - Vilppu - Hampton approach.
>>2358329
that cankled foot bothers me so
This "style" triggers me so much. They can't keep getting away with making this garbage popular.
>>2358657
slather this all into grayscale and even the author is fucked in telling em apart
>>2358740
In all seriousness, do you have some kind of mental retardation? That's my whole point. There is a market for these entertainment product, hence there are professionals being paid to do them. Which means the artists who will be hired to work on these projects will be paid for their work and thus art becomes..... their profession.
>>2358549
Her faces are probably the weakest aspect of her work. I'm not a big fan of them. I still love her rendering though.
>>2358751
Ignore him he was doing this "Art shouldn't be a profession" garbage in another thread.
>>2358751
oh just fucking forget it, leaving art aside you should start improving your ability of reading comprehension
>>2358584
For people not used to this style, the differences are too subtle. You only start to notice them when you've been trained to look at ghibil.
>>2358759
>le reading comprehension maymay
>>2358778
>le meme meme reddit xD
>>2358759
No, I'm pretty sure I comprehend what you were trying to say, it's just really, REALLY stupid. You said art shouldn't be a profession and you think all the work that is currently done by professional artists would still be continued to be done by what I assume would be hobbyists who do it purely out of a love and passion for art, or some equally retarded, romantic shit you probably believe in.
What you fail to understand is that the moment someone is really good at something, others will pay them to do it. Hence art as a profession will always exist as long as there are people who want to pay artists money do to what they do. As long as there is a demand, there will be a profession that fulfills that demand. This is something any child understand but apparently it's too much for you to comprehend.
>>2358329
>>2358317
nesskain draws manly men and he's popular on tumblr. most likely because his work is very homoerotic
>>2358798
it's just erotic. why homo?
>>2358895
because nesskain is a dude
>>2358895
You better be trolling
>>2358895
because it's a manly man showing his feminine side
literally anyone can be popular on tumblr
all you have to do is draw good or draw what people like
there's no "style" required
>>2358655
hi you are using this amazing tool called the internet, learn how to use it effectively.
In the meantime, input these keywords into your google search bar:
pigeon artist tumblr
>>2358655
their username is pigeon666, Google that
they post their newest work on Twitter, Tumblr, & deviantart
Every time I see this kind of "Tumblr style" I get a bit closer to killing myself.
How are these even popular? That one picture the hands are literally flat on the table and I doubt it's on purpose. I just. They're all so bad and there's tons of actually good people struggling to get notice on that pos site. The one in the bottom left is babby's first animoo drawing.
>>2358754
Not really. They're just a special style and as such not everyone like them.
> waah too generic
> waaah too special
> waah too realistic
You could say the same shit for pretty much every styles ever.
>>2358551
This. Part of each of the characters whole "hurr I died but not really, just retreated into muh jem" bit was them standardizing their models. Amethyst lost her wonky hanging shoulder strap. Pearl normalized in height, and got a bow that was much more fun to animate than her weird see through skirt, Garnet is already sort of hard to optimize so they left her how she is now.
The regeneration thing was a canon way for the designers to say "wow are interns really suck dick. Maybe we she make these designs even easier to animate."
>>2358982
"Flat Hands" is by Zamii: a tumblr artist who got popular by literally spamming fanart nonstop for 2 years. She was pretty well-known between 2012-2014 because she shit out a dozen doodles for every homestuck update. (Look in her archives- they were drawn so quickly they literally look like scribbles.)
Now she runs a webcomic that's even more poorly drawn than her art from 2012.
The lower left was by an artist who managed to get their comic on Hiveworks. The rest is self-explanatory.
>>2358542
Fuck, that picture just embodies edgy, teenage bullshit, and still manages to be effeminate.
What a complete pile of shit.
>>2358222
why even bother coming here /b/ newfags?
>>2359005
>Not really.
Yeah really. Her faces are shit. It's clearly a stylistic choice on her part but that doesn't deter me from called it shit. Obviously it's something I don't like. I like just about everything else about her work though. Fuck off, defense force.
>>2358656
phobs drew yaoi nazis?
>>2359024
She's pretty much one of the few artists ever that manages to use well those themes to make them into great works, fuck off and come back when you get 1/10th of her skills.
>>2359031
> gets called defense force for saying her faces aren't shit
I have as much right for defending because I like them as you have for calling them shit because you don't, retard.
>>2359044
>She's pretty much one of the few artists ever that manages to use well those themes to make them into great works
Does being a fanboy completely scramble your brains or something? Using something in its most generic and superficial way does not constitute originality or "great work". This shit has been so overused in Japan over the past decade that it's became even worse of a clichè than it used to be.
>>2358647
Except Basquiat started out as a street tagger. Nobody would've cared about Basquiat if he hadn't ran around tagging SAMO first
>>2359044
>come back when you get 1/10th of her skills.
Or maybe you should comeback when you aren't such an weeb faggot obsessing over an artist as if they are god when the best thing about their work is their rendering.
>>2358895
if you were a fag like me you'd know a thing or two about gay art and see how much influence there is in nesskain's work.
>>2357903
>>2358656
See also: Vert-is-Ninja (Hanna Is Not a Boy's Name) who influenced a lot of the "youneek tumblr kids" that flocked to tumblr to post homestuck fanart.
I think Homestuck and its fan art was probably a HUGE influence on tumblr style, it's just that now the fandom has moved on to other things.
>>2359019
she also tried to kill herself when some sjws deemed her and her artwork problamtic
>>2359019
She's gotten worse over time and is proud of it
>>2359232
That 2013 one is really cute too bad she went to shit
>>2359232
The first one is really cute and charming, and it just get's progressively worse.
What is with people's obsession with making EVERYTHING so fucking shiny? I'm seeing it a lot from artists linked in this thread, and I really don't get it.
A lot of this art would look better if they just toned the shiny,blushy elbow/nose/kneecaps shit down. Where did that even come from? I understand that Anime/cartoons/comics employ blushing to good effect, but I have never seen shininess like this, not even in the most laughable Shojo.
tumblr (and anime as well) are nearly useless terms for trying to group together something as a style. they're like salsa or salad, something with a whole bunch of different parts mixed together in a bowl and each artist is like a bite of that. tumblr salsa (or anime salad) usually taste terrible because you're putting too much shit into the same bowl and then complaining when you get a mouth full of tastes you don't enjoy.
it's why you'll get multiple people who hate on "tumblr style" but then argue with each other over where the influence came from. they don't realize that they're just arguing over their specific stylistic pet peeves under a catchall umbrella that ultimately means nothing beyond being some imaginary unified front for them to oppose, just like reddit, just like feminists, just like MRA's, just like "PC" culture, just like 4chan itself
>>2359335
>why isn't everybody's skill on a professional level
>>2359111
It wasn't even for any of the reasons mentioned above. It was because she drew gems. Fucking cartoons for a kid's show.
I understand hating on someone's work. I love ranting about shit. But Tumblr goes the extra mile and stalks people they disagree with every waking moment of the day.
Imagine being that buttmad. Just. Imagine.
>>2357917
I like the faces in the top one, except the horrible noses.
>>2359355
No.... it's really obvious when an art style comes from a tumblr user/is tumblr inspired. There's something about all of them that they have in common that causes people to recognize it. Just like you can recognize if a style is "anime" despite the very many styles anime can have.
>>2359232
But 2013 is just aping Tartakovsky's style.
>>2359083
underrated post right here
>>2359429
So tumblr has some really fucked up ugly design language.
>>2359429
i feel design language is too organized/planned of a concept, usually used in reference to product design/architecture, more akin to a style guide for a specific work/series
>>2359413
at no point did i say or even imply that it isn't obvious when something is anime or from/inspired by tumblr, merely that those terms are too broad to be of much use beyond "i'm gonna oversimplify a concept for the sake of hating a thing"
>>2358719
You can't even read worth a shit and are giving out classes now?
Phobs was influenced by Efimov and Disney, early post-anorexia Tumblr was influenced by Phobs. And CalArts hasn't always been Glen Keane's turf, Keane's construction method had gone out of fashion until Tangled's marketing campaign came out and people at CalArts were trying to rip off Miyazaki at the time.
"Tumblr style" does not come from any sort of professional instruction, it comes from the internet and the minds of fucked up people.
>>2359232
>the increasing amount of copy pasted elements
>>2358746
Loomis is a meme.
Loomis is shit.
Loomis won't get you anywhere.
/ic/s fixation on Loomis is the most successful act of trolling ever at 4chan.
If you really want to get better replace him with Bridgman, or even better, with actual instruction on design, narrative and composition because no one ever wants to see your anal anatomy "studies" and you'll never make it anywhere if you continue telling yourself that you need to master "the fundamentals" before actually creating shit.
>>2359043
Phobs drew stuff that wasn't yaoi nazis?
>>2359549
Unless you're already good, Meme-man sucks. Seriously, Loomis is far better. Best of all though, is taking what you like from both and discarding the rest.
>>2359069
And no one would call him a tagger after Mary Boone took him in. Same way no one would call Loish a tumblrtard.
Nobody that doesn't suffer from intense Dunning-Kruger.
>>2359072
She has great rendering tho. And it's very attractive and has given her relevance and success.
What has your anal devotion to Loomis given you? Every tumblrtard in this threat is more relevant to art history than you and that stings. You could take it to the drawing board and actually start striving for relevance but that would require putting down your ego and shutting the fuck up.
D/ic/ks never get anywhere because humility is absolutely necessary for improovement.
>>2359549
>Loomis is a meme.
I've been going to life drawing sessions organised by the college of art in my city for several months, it belongs to one of the best universities in the UK. I spoke to many art students including graduates/undergraduate and name dropped /ic/'s favourite books like Loomis and Hampton; so far only 2 people have even heard about Loomis.
While I wouldn't say art school is a standard for quality skill measurement, but the fact that formal education don't even consider /ic/'s as study material then it must be a meme. Some of these people are actually quite good despite having learned their methods elsewhere, so the bottom line is - study smart and don't think Loomis is everything.
>>2359516
>i feel design language is too organized/planned of a concept, usually used in reference to product design/architecture, more akin to a style guide for a specific work/series
Yes, it's structured so that art from many different artists looks like it belongs within the company style or narrative.
If you haven't noticed tumblr is pretty hardcore cult-ish. Them having a design language and people being desperate to look like they belong aren't hard to notice.
>>2359553
Yaoi LotR, yaoi mongols, yaoi Thor and Marvel in general, plus a russian police procedural/horror comic.
>>2359558
Loomis is shit if you're an absolute noob Jack Hamm will have you drawing and actually understanding what the fuck you're doing way faster than "Fun with a Pencil".
>>2359585
Jack Hamm sucks.
>>2359571
you ever stop an think maybe they actually just earnestly and sincerely like the way things look sometimes, you know, like unironically an all that other scary-to-think-about shit
>>2359619
No.
>>2359571
>If you haven't noticed tumblr is pretty hardcore cult-ish.
Do people who post this bullshit really believe the sludge thats coming out of their mouths? Tumblr is just a place to make a blog, it's like calling wordpress or blogger a cult-like community, theres so much different shit posted on all these sites, you're as dumb as the fuckheads who think 4chan = /b/.
As for the "tumblr" style, it's just the current contemporary cartoon design, posted everywhere including da and shit like that. Similar to why pop music all have a similar sound if you look for it, people just got good at making a visually appealing design for the unwashed masses.
>>2360007
Idk m8 I thought this too. But everyone I've started following seems to be circle jerking each others polished turds for likes. A lot of them have degenerated into cutesy anime shits.
>>2358656
Oh definitely agree
It bothers me when artists like Phobs (or Noelle Stevenson) get criticized for having a 'Tumblr' art style with the implication that their artstyle is derivative. They aren't derivative. They are the wellspring of the aesthetic, other people purposefully aped the and it just took off from there.
There was a time when Phobs really had a unique art style and it was part of why they were so popular. Their popularity led to them no longer being distinct.
I don't like Noelle Stevenson's artwork that much but for a moment in time the artstyle was uniquely hers, or at least the aesthetic sensibilities weren't very popular. And then people opted to emulate the artstyle that she and Kate Beaton (similarish) had put forth.
>>2358214
>>2360007
Pls go back to tumblr, you're getting triggered by people's evil opinions about your friends over there.
>>2359545
good eye, they not only god bad they got lazy too
>>2360007
>Tumblr is just a place to make a blog
>you're as dumb as the fuckheads who think 4chan = /b/
You realize that the same way 4chan is a site with boards and smaller communities inside those boards that tumblr is no different.
If you check out the beginner thread then you'll see a lot of new artists with a very samey look and feel. Even an amateur can see Hampton, Loomis, Bridgman, etc studies. We're all starting at the same place but when you pop into the art style thread you can see that we all want to go in very different directions.
On Tumblr there are the same little communities with maybe less structure since they're bound by hashtags instead of boards. The beginners have that same look and feel and you can pick out the image tutorials they follow but the difference is that there are large communities that all have the same or very similar destinations.
The style is popular, its variations are so incestuous and when you combine that with a relatively low skill ceiling it's easy for a whole site to become known for one "style"
>>2358719
>CalArts painting techniques
Elaborate?
>tfw you like western cartoony shit too (minus the popular shit)
how do I not become tumblr
it's one of my fears
my plan is to master realism first but still it kind of irks me whenever I draw some cartoon for fun
>>2360347
if you like it, embrace it.
>>2358746
That style isn't what I'd call tumblr style, though unfortunately that artist's skills somehow got a lot worse over time. Their older stuff used to be alright, nothing astounding, but after a while it seems like they started exaggerating shapes too much and somehow they lost their style.
>>2359549
I personally can't read Loomis and don't understand the appeal.
>>2359563
>She has great rendering tho.
That's what I said? What is with faggots like you? Good rendering is what leads to mainstream success. Everyone knows that. Draftsman generally don't get nearly as much mainstream recognition even though their drawings are always more solid. I'm acknowledging Pigeon's weaknesses while you want to pretend they don't exist. Fuck off. You're a fanboy. It's possible to like someone's work while without sucking them off. You should look into it.
>>2360479
> only rendering
You don't even fucking know what you're talking about Drawing something like this >>2358214 takes as much drawings skills as you can get, don't you dare compare it to people like Kr0n and Sakimichan who just lazily draw faces and busts of popular characters with the same usual mainstream rendering.
>>2360495
Dial it back homie she's not going to sleep with you.
>>2360510
But I did proved you wrong. :^)
>>2360510
> implying I care about that and doesn't just appreciate her skills for what they are
Seems like approving of her drawings will kill you on the other hand considering how defensive you are.
>>2359335
People have no idea about design or subtlety
>>2360512
>>2360524
Not even the guy lol
>>2359043
>not drawing nazi everything
>>2359044
The show which pic related is from had designs from pixiv artists exclusively. Guess they should have went with pigeon, because she managed to make them look less retarded
>>2360660
Which show is that?
>>2358912
that doesn't make his work necessarily homoerotic
girls can appreciate it too
>>2360495
Where in my post did I mention Kr0n or Sakimichan? Kill yourself.
>>2360638
Their fashion sense was the only good thing they had going for them. Everything else was shit.
>>2357865
I find that, for some reason, I can (almost) ALWAYS spot art that was drawn by a girl. Why is this? I won't even have to look at their profile, I just instinctively KNOW. Subject matter might be a part of it, but I can point out female art even if they're drawing non female subject matter. Anyone else feel this way?
>>2361024
In amateur communities, absolutely.
In more professional shit, it's more blurry.
>>2361040
Ah yeh. There are some bomb female artists. I guess you're right about the amateur communities, they just stick out like a sour thumb.
>>2361042
>sour thumb
>>2361048
Yes suh.
>>2361024
They have a favorite color palette they rarely deviate from along with subject matter that just screams I'm a girl.
Also I think female artists tend to put bits of themselves in their drawings. Either real or idealized traits.
But yeah I have the same thing I can always tell if the artist is female
>>2361061
Color palette, body proportions, facial proportions, general stylization methods, there are a lot of ways you can determine an artist's sex just by their stylization habits.
>>2361061
>Also I think female artists tend to put bits of themselves in their drawings. Either real or idealized traits.
all artists do that
>>2361194
Not me.
http://lemonteaflower.tumblr.com/tagged/my-art
What do you guys consider the "deep end" of the tumblr artist pool?
>>2361244
This pic makes me think the artist was going for a sort of gashi-gashi vibe.
>>2361255
I just got cancer reading this.
>>2361255
wow
>>2361244
As a fan of that game this disgusts me deeply
>>2361255
the real funny bit is that the 2015 census of traffic flow on tumblr confirmed that 75% of its user base is white Caucasian. meaning that this is just a big old "im not racist, see seeeeee!!" party.
>>2361302
Did you really expect anything different?
>>2361255
It makes me so fucking annoyed when they start firing off these dumb neologisms all in succession as if they're normal terms everyone is familiar with. I pray to God, Zeus, Buddha, and anyone else I never have to come face to face with someone like this. So far I've been lucky.
>>2361255
Virtue signalling: the website
>>2359024
>effeminate
The character is female, dunno what you expected
>>2361425
No, it's a guy.
>>2361003
Don't lie their lolis were pretty good too
>>2361484
man this 'western animu' style looks like shit
>>2361496
What the hell are you talking about, there is nothing western about it.
>>2361488
I'm not a pedophile, so no.
>>2361496
>western animu
>western
kek
>>2361255
Thanks fuck that it's contaminated excluse to that account.
>>2361484
amal is a girl tho, pigeon confirmed
every picture with amal + elizabeth is tagged yuri
>>2358745
Because it's not Glen Keane. He doesn't do that flat bold color gauche style. I'd say it's more Mary Blair and Eyvind Earle-ish, along with the more recent Disney visdev artists who are replicating similar looks in digital. Dunno which artists influenced calarts kids to push their shape designs so grotesquely though.
>>2361514
it looks like a western person symbol drawing animu
you'll never find images that look like that in pixiv or whatever
>>2361962
You don't know what you're talking about.
>>2362009
Do you think it looks like a typical western drawing then?
>>2361962
but the author is korean and has a pixiv account. That pigeon guy.
>>2357865
sounds like sour grapes to me, pal... Not that I'm not supporting your case, tho
>>2359569
This
>>2361255
I think every tumblr artist is an evolved form of a weeaboo
instead of japan, they praise lgbt shit like it's the best thing ever
actual homos (like one of my friends) hate tumblrfags in reality though
Why do Tumblr artists favour such garish colour palettes? Always bright pinks and purples and powder blues. It's disgusting looking.
>>2362140
Which ones are you referring to? Maybe you just like muddy garbage.
>>2359569
Eh, I go to a real legit life drawing class and they have Loomis in the book collection there, like a really old edition, I'd be surprised if a professional illustrator hadn't at least heard of him.
I'm not a Loomis fan at all btw, Harold Speed is my waifu.
>>2359569
What books do you recc then
>>2361024
Same. I can usually tell if it's a guy or girl. Some of that us chalked up to tone and subject (girls like pretty, guys like power, etc). If I'm wrong, I'm not usually surprised either, since the art seems it could go either way.
Except for mooncalfe on da. I was so sure he was a chick, that I had a hard time calling him a 'him'. Turns out he is actually a she. Went public as trans recently. Oddly enough, ever since seeing that, I feel I can spot the fake tumblrina trans this way too.
Wtf is with that? It's as baffling as it is fascinating.
>>2361233
Nigga need to do some soul searching. You're doing it, you just don't see it.
>>2359549
saw an iain maccaig interview a while back where he says fdfaiw was his bible
>>2361828
They're all like 16 year old though. No shit their art isn't mind-blowing. Not to mention they still pull commissioners and patreon funding pretty easily.
>>2362558
we're all guys here
>>2362573
e-exactly right!
Tumblr/deviantart style is 99% done by teens who will never be more than hobbyists. It's not like they're all coming for your space marine fantasy tcg gigs so who cares how they draw.
>>2358057
> Tube arms and legs
> Sausage fingers with no joints
> Big round red cheeks
those existed before tumblr m80
>>2362558
Here's a fun one I found recently
>>2362679
This is the artist
>>2362680
I wish I could see the looks on people's faces when the guy shows them his art.
Pic related is by a female artist.
>>2362583
why do girls draw hands like that?
>>2362691
haha are u being sarcastic
>>2358540
I know you didn't mean to post this in the wrong thread, but this is still a nice post to read.
>>2361024
>>2362293
Am I a male? Or am I a female? Also, if you're going to tell me "it's shit," can you at least explain why it is?
>>2361233
If you didn't self-insert at one point you're a filthy liar anon
>>2361244
What the fuck is this filth
>>2361496
Nice b8 m8
>>2360347
>my plan is to master realism first
First of all, you never master realism. Ever.
And you don't learn to stylize by drawing realism, you learn to stylize by understanding construction and studying design.
Stylization is not an accident, it's a language.
>>2361255
>transmasc and demiboy, lithonomathic asexual
>genderfluid aroflux polysexual
Oh fuck me every part of my body wants to believe this is parody but deep down I know it's not.
>>2362669
THIS
>>2360479
Nigger this isn't about Pigeon, it' about you and /ic/ in general.
If your "weaknesses" don't impede your success, they don't exist, they don't matter. You're only putting a spotlight there because it' a convenient excuse as why you're not trying yourself, "oh I need to be better than X or Y before I start painting seriously", no you fucking don't, you're preventing your succes by preventing yourelf from failing, all because your ego is more important to you than art is.
All the people who made it out of this cesspool of failure realized /ic/ is 100% critique, 0% art and that gets you nowhere.
>>2361040
Mostly thanks to art directors and design doccuments.
>>2362743
With tumblr, it is really hard to tell. The person who drew that pic got pushed off of that site though
>>2361496
>western animu
>western
>>2362762
>school
yeah we noticed
>>2362762
>Andrew Hussie
lol
sounds like a bitter homestuck
why was this person pushed off btw?
>>2362756
>what is personal work
>>2362777
Backlash from a lot of people & places due to the drawings
>>2362784
But mostly from the Undertale humanized shit from >>2361255
>>2362784
>human Toriel
>a shitskinned mudnigger muslim
REEEEEEEEE!
>>2362784
What happened to Sasuke
>le draw women unattractive meme
this is why tumblrshits have such a problem with anime, they are salty they cant draw attractive women so instead of getting good at stylization and accentuation of attractive features they draw obese hamplanets with giant clown noses.
>>2362791
Got hit with the tumblr stick
>>2362785
>Latinx
Holy fuck triggered
>q. Why are the girls tumblr draws always so fucking fat?
a. because in art school they make you do studies of fat women, because its easier to learn the "curves" of the body and gestures on curvy people. Unfortunately tumblr was never able to make it past that point and go on to learn actual anatomy, so they draw fat women because its simple and the more fat there is on the body, the less actual bone structure (real anatomy) is shown. Its eaasier for them to draw a series of curves rather than actually draw a human being.
>>2362806
I'd argue that it's because they want to glorify fatties like themselves. Considering they ignore anatomy for literally every body shape, doubt ease of drawing comes much into it.
