Progress thread?
Complete begingner here wanted to see what kinds of progress is reasonable.Please date your works and post them!
I always end up adding way too many pictures into these
>>2320674
Alright, honestly, where is the progress?
>>2320630
blog?
>>2320682
Sorry I don't have one here it one of my other works
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I made one for the end of the year, but may as well post it.
Given how often people get shit on in these threads I'm expecting the worst. Quality is a little inconsistent but my baseline is at least better, I think.
tfw some of my favourites were in May.
>>2320687
Wow
>>2320674
Your line confidence has gotten immensely better (the banana-man and mech especially) but you really need to work on your overall anatomy, especially arms. Also try doing different angles and (horizontal?) poses for portraits/figures because nearly all of them are static 3/4ths busts. Focus on sketching for fluidity and experimentation instead of rendering for a week or two, as well.
Keep it up! You're steadily improving.
>>2320674
A Y
Y
>>2320690
Would it be possible to see a larger version of this?
>>2320721
That's as large as I made it, sorry, I think I'd need to make it all over again to enlarge it at this point, and I don't know when /ic/ would cut me off size-wise.
I have higher res versions of all the stuff in it though.
>>2320630
not me, but this is pretty impressive
>>2320731
I think he made great progress, but I feel like that guy is going to become a meme and everyone's going to start shit-talking him soon, if I know /ic/.
>>2320718
have you tried drawing amazon from dragons crown?
>>2320687
Learned how to photo reference.
ITT: How I learned to stop drawing from imagination and copy photos.
>>2320749
>retards villainize learning how to observe
muh cartoons tho
>>2320749
>People without talent can't draw without observing
>>2320690
I like your Dark Souls stuff. Steady improvement.
Heres my stuff, picked up drawing seriously last week. 1/2
>>2320741
Holy fuck that torso tho
>>2320630
heh, funny.
>>2320687
it is kinda slow for 3 years..just saying.
>>2320797
>mfw I said I was gonna start doing more environments and studies this year
Not too happy with the second half of this year but looking forward to the on-site landscape and maybe even life drawing I'll be able to do next year so I can stop stagnating/deteriorating.
>>2320674
Proud of you anon.
>>2320822
Looks good, but maybe vary up your body types some more, you seem to only short stocky girls
>>2320741
>that torso
>>2320822
Look at these. Amazing studies. Why not make finished works of art rather than just studies? Why hesitate?
i hate looking at my old stuff
i work as a software engineer but i would like to incorporate my art in my programming someday
i'll probably remain a hobbyist, though
>>2321163
I hate looking at your new stuff
>>2321169
yeah me too
got work to do
>>2321163
Dude, i fucking love that study of the kid
One of my personal favorites currently, keep on chuggin
>>2321163
You seem to be past hobbyist level dude. Some good stuff there.
>>2321169
I bet your stuff is amazing. If only you had the guts to post it and put everyone to shame.
>>2320687
who are you and why are you stealing firez's work? i know for a fact you aren't firez, b/c firez is an annoying tripfag spamming threads with his shitty artwork.
>>2321203
there is legitimate improvement but i feel like youre trolling.
>>2320690
I like it anon, you gave me the idea to do the same thing for 2016, so thanks.
Your knights are cool. Keep improving.
>>2320718
Love your landscapes anon. Can I get a link to your blog or whatever you're using?
>>2320690
how much time would you say you put in per month?
>>2320718
Fetishism detected
>>2321163
Love your linework
>>2320690
The last one for december is mint. Keep it up m8
>>2320718
how old are you?
>>2321182
I won't, it's too good for you to see it
Keep crying kiddo
>>2320796
>>2321222
>>2321270
thanks guys, I appreciate it.
>>2321252
maybe 40-50 hours in a month but it does vary a lot and I don't keep good track, so it could be more or less.
I'm bad at drawing every day but it's still the ideal. Usually once I get in the mood I can go for 3 or 4 hours, I'll skip a day now and then or have days where I only draw for like an hour but now and then I do days where I draw all day, too.
>>2320630
>>2321496
>almost 1 year
>still chickenscratching
Don't do this
>>2321502
I really need to work on that :c
heres another
Here's one of mine. I was particularly satisfied with it at the time.
May 2015 - November 2015
>>2321530
it looks like the only difference is that you spend more time on the new one.
>>2321163
Looks really good, even though I get the feeling you have better stuff. The Papyrus has great linework.
>>2321346
You just made a fool of yourself.
2008:
Strangers in Seoul
Crossing the stream
2009:
The Great Southern Gate
Free Hugs at Starbucks
2010:
The Restaurant
Roommate Portrait
Me
2011:
Nude torso
Woman with turban
Tower photo montage
Ripe Fruit
2012:
Mother (aunt)
2013:
The New Girl
Two Maikos (geisha)
The Blinding Light of Manhattan
The Representation of My Inner World
2014:
In a Corner of Memories
Iron Forge
Portrait of Rimma Simonova
A Morning Walk Outside the Tunnel
2015:
Two Sisters
Green Tea Ice Cream
The Dance of Two Tigresses
Self Portrait II
Her Garden
>>2321717
lol how the fuk...those 2 painted man are great and then... bam... stupid faces.
>>2321718
It's the difference between painting from a reference and painting from memory
>>2321720
I honestly had no idea people could photocopy that hard and still have no clue.
>>2321718
Which ones are good, you say?
Tell me which suck and which are your favorites
Day 0 autistics unite.
>>2321737
m-muh style!
He can draw really stoned gooks if he wants, that doesn't mean people have to suck his dick for it.
>>2321789
Doesn't mean the opposite either.
>>2320718
When lorises raise their arms it's not because they like to be tickled, it's because they're making the poison come down from the glands in their elbows to their teeth, which most of the time have been brutally removed so they can be observed in captivity
>>2321771
Still looks like total shit, stop posting and go practice
1.2 year of art school
>>2322127
which school?
This must be a joke. Or you for some reason hate art schools
>>2322127
Ask for a refund.
>>2322138
26. why are you asking?
>>2322156
Damn you're good
blog?
>>2322162
Only paper only hardcore.
Its always fun to update this :)
>>2320718
Can you post a couple of those giant rampaging lolis at the bottom? I find them whimsical
>>2322321
2014 stuff is better than 2015s
>>2322627
>>2322321
How'd you take such a step back bro?...
Work hard
Anyone have that depressing Pokemon deviant art thing that gets posted every once in a while?
>>2322982
I got you senpai
>>2322983
thanks family man.
>>2322983
>6 years no progress
it hurts to look at
>>2322983
>last set is from 6 years ago
i bet he's Caravaggio tier now
>>2321615
what am i watching? clay figures? maybe try more human shit so you could actually land a job someday?
>>2322983
Is that sprite work stolen?
His first year sprite thing has better understanding then all his other pieces combined.
>>2323059
Just an edit of a sprite from the third generation games.
>>2323064
Forgot my image.
>>2320803
I would think 2 years would be a realistic maximum for this progress, but I agree 3 is a bit too lazy.
>>2321530
How long did it took you to do the latest one?
>>2320803
>>2323071
This seems to be a feature of this board that seems stupid me. /ic/ constantly slaps these bizarre expectations for progress as if there's some objective metric for where you should be in a given amount of time. And the most people ever seem to give for their metric is "I saw x person reach x point really fast."
After you get the fundamentals down it becomes subjective extremely quickly. People also seem to think that it's a steady increase from start to finish, despite the fact that the improvement in the first year or so will inevitably be the most radical because you've got so much to learn that can improve what you're doing. After that you hit a point of diminishing returns and either slowly refine your fundamentals or start stylizing and developing your preferred approach.
>>2323096
seriously bro wtf are you doing spamming everything with this
>>2323079
> Some objective metric for where you should be in a given amount of time
> Believing were in the early 2000's where it took a while to finish shit
Why do you think if you want to go pro you are expected to be both good and fast. You must have autism if it took you way more than 3 years to improve or just have no pride in improving whatsoever.
12/22/13 -> 12/03/14 -> 12/20/15
I hope the image size is good enough. Also fuck you OP it hurt to go through all my past art
>>2323134
I'm telling you that once you hit a certain point with fundamentals "good" becomes very subjective to define. You might have a point if someone's posting their same sonic fanart after 5 years which we've all seen, but once the fundamentals are covered it's a different ballgame for progress.
What do you consider 3 years worth of objective progress? Have you done it? Is this what you consider what the average person can attain, or the ideal? Are you going to post some Ruan Jia shit and say everyone should hit that level in 3 years? What's the checklist? Surely there's a criteria. If you don't have any formula and are going solely on your opinion, who fucking cares?
I'm willing to bet all you're going to do is take some artist you like and post it, and go "he should be like this." because that's all anyone does when they say "bad progress for 3 years."
At the best you can say "I don't like where you went with it" but if you don't have a metric, that's just your shitty unfounded opinion.
>>2323161
I don't really have a blog. The most I have is a Twitter where you can see my dumb ramblings if you so choose
https://twitter.com/PixelBedded
Also, what's the point of owning a blog like Tumblr or something? Any pros over just having a Twitter for shits n stuff?
>>2320630
blog?
>>2323147
[spoiler]I'm one of the artists on the M4 team, I'm super excited to see the finished outcome on that WIP, anon.[/spoiler]
>>2320687
Hey that's pretty good improvement for only three days
>>2322989
Not much has changed.
>>2323281
Well at least he is improving. At this rate he'll have a decent art style by the time he's 60.
>>2322962
Id say the apparent drop in quality in 2015 is mostly due to me trying all kinds of new things and tackeling new problems and to see what works and what does not.
>>2323210
>>2323560
Forgot the picture.
Early 2015 - October 2015.
How was it, anons?
>>2323575
>needs more loomis
I wonder what happened to the poor soul that got lost and had the most unfortunate event to find his way here of all places.
>>2323049
pony shit is stupid but what makes you think he's trying to land a job with his art?
>>2323630
I thought these were cute
>>2323079
I think it's due to the fact that it was me who posted it, some people here (or maybe is the same guy) for some reason can't stand me either with trip or not.
Maybe I could have done better... in another life, in a better country, with better health, younger... But I honestly feel I did what I could and if that's not enough for someone I just can't help it. At this point. I will just keep doing and keep trying every day as long as I can.
>>2321203
oh hey look, its mouse
>>2323702
It hurts.
Eh. Wish I pursued it a bit harder at the time.
my progress is pretty shitty and I'm disappointed how much time flew by where I could've been practicing, anyway here's a snapshot of my year, I didn't really catalogue everything but I was mega bad at the start of the year when I started my journey.
for next year I reaaally need to take something, anything to completion, but I've got some savings and entering a part time job next year, where I will endeavor to fill time with study.
cheers all. happy 2016.
>>2323843
If you learn to focus on the general side of things you will see a lot of improvement, how things work and how to apply the physics to your art
I see you worry a lot about detail and don't try to really undearstand the way things work
but nice progress, really getting our of the flat eye way to draw
but your symbols are still strong
Friendly reminder to those just starting out; learning art is not some binary thing where at two years or whatever in you should be at a specific skill level. Everyone learns differently and at varying speeds. Faggots like >>2320803 are just that, faggots attempting to troll. What took someone two years to reach might take you three, or one. Everyone is different.
>>2323865
that picture reminds me of the end of monty python's meaning of life, where eric takes the camera aside and reveals the meaning of life
I should do more studies and draw less sad girls.
>>2323865
also if you want to make yourself improve faster, you have to draw more and be smarter about what you're drawing
>>2323931
Those hands under 2015 are sexy af
>>2323958
>>2323964
Here you go you perverts.
>>2323610
I have never really read anything from Loomis. Where should I start?
>>2323974
nice
wow you guys got better at copying. great.
>>2323865
name of artist?
>>2323992
Richard Schmid
bawlz
>>2324005
wrong thread, i'll see myself out
>>2320718
do you think Smogon will ever allow you to draw giantess artwork for their articles
>>2323983
post your glorious imaginative work so we can learn from your example.
>>2323931
>2015, discovered the work of ruan jia
>>2325837
so what?
>>2325837
What's wrong tho?
>>2325850
Is this the you you?
If this is really you, I wanna thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Really, your stuff got me into pixel art, I learned a lot from your pieces and you don't know how much I thank you for this.
>>2325855
Forgot to add that I got a job this year on a company where I do pixel art for some games so thanks again for being an inspiration my friend, you and Fool are one of the bests I've ever seen. kudos
>>2325855
Thanks. I learned a lot from the online pixel art community, so it feels good to know I've given back.
>>2325854
Which artists are good to learn from?
I just did two drawings with his style to try to figure out that motherfuckers technique, but failed
>>2325871
Keep trying anon, don't give up yet
if you master this shit you gonna become something more
>>2325871
As of right now, I personally, am getting the most benefit from looking at and studying the drawings and paintings of John Singer Sargent.
The guy is a master at using simplified impressionistic strokes to convey the most amount of information.
>>2320822
blog?
Kind of meh, but I don't plan on going pro so I don't sweat it too much.
>>2326014
Wow, add random limbs everywhere so you don't have to learn proper anatomy. Why hasn't anyone ever thought of this before?
>>2326014
Is Visceral games hiring?
2016 because why not
I wanna git gud this year, I never studied for real (I ignored all the fundamentals when I started back in 2012, I'm going back to them just now) so it's time to change that
I wish I had oldest arts to show you guys but I never did a lot of things
>>2320687
Firez man it's really great to see you improving
>>2322321
holy shit!!
>>2326241
why do you guys love drawing those niggers?
>>2326257
I like to play with shapes, but I think there is no excuse for this. My visual library sucks and I'm already working on that...
>>2326316
>From shit to crap.
>>2326316
The older one is better t.bh
>>2326316
in his defense, he says 'grown and changed'. he probably knows very well it's barely improved at all, technically.
>>2326154
I wouldn't work for EA even if I had the skills m8.
>>2326316
there's definitely improvement. face isn't as pleasing to look at but the line quality and shading got better and so did anatomy.
>>2326316
>oy vey! now you're not a raycist anymo'!
>>2326481
HAHAHAHAH! Good one.
If an EA owned studio called you tomorrow and offered you a role in their concept department, you'd have your bags packed before the call ended and you know it.
>>2326683
not him but I actually wouldn't, I'd imagine it'd be as soul crushing, oppressive and insecure as any job at EA.
I'm not really desperate to get a job in the industry and EA is notorious for treating their employees like cattle.
So, improved enough for 6 months? im trying my best, lol.
>>2320822
Love the progress anon. Do you have a blog?
>>2326697
No, and no you are not trying your best you piece of shit why wont you stop drawing that animu crap and draw from life instead?
>>2326703
I draw from life, but why should I post a life drawing near an anime one? LOL makes no sense
>>2326703
ayy
>>2326707
Nice to know im getting better, dont have many friends to talk about art so there's 4chan, not like its the best place but definetly not the worst.
>>2326713
I'll fix that, thanks
>>2326713
>>2326707
You faggots are no help stop sugar coating him and tell it the way it is he needs to stop drawing that generic profile 3/4 view shit he is purposely hiding landmarks such as the ears, the clavicle, and it is painfully obvious he does not know how to place the neck correctly on the torso.
The faces are both out of proportion, flat and no sense of form or shape hell even Firez does a better job at drawing profile shots.
>>2326722
It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Your intention is good but you really sound like a moterfucking asshat at the point they would just ignore your ramblings
Mind your manners kiddo, stop projecting your younger self on people
>>2326731
Develop a thick skin now or go back to your tumblr this is not your fucking hugbox safespace environment.
>>2326722
Bitch all you like, if you think his december one isn't considerably nicer to look at than his july one you're fucking blind. Obviously he's not going to become a flawless master of portraiture in half a month.
Also screaming that he should stop drawing 3/4 profile pictures when you've seen exactly two drawings selected because they're comparable is a bit of an advertisement that you're looking for a reason to whine. Or are you suggesting that as soon as you've drawn one 3/4 portrait you should never draw another one again?
>>2326733
Oh I see, you're one of those morons who thinks "cry about anything if anyone says a single positive thing it's a hugbox safespace muh board culture"
Grow the fuck up.
>>2326686
That's every concept job. You work 9-5 in a cubicle making revisions on the same illustration based on someone higher ups idea. You're basically a manual labourer or an art robot.
I was heading down this path myself, and also have friends who carried on past college into the industry, but decided I wanted the freedom to illustrate my own ideas, work freelance and earn a better living. I also don't want to burn out from the stress of crunch and meeting deadlines constantly.
>>2326722
I've chosen the one that was the nearest to the old one, it's not like if I only draw 3/4 portrait, I actually hate making same stuff again and again.
and.. why you look so mad? acting like a 5 year old kid, I dont get it :)
>>2323706
I have drawn this hand multiple times and can tell you the second finger is wrong. on the first segment onward.
>>2320687
IN 3 DAYS?
>>2326842
years.......
>>2326697
well done
>>2320690
Good stuff, gives me motivation. Any fan of Das is a friend of mine.
Last year
>>2327168
This year, I don't think I'll make it anons.
>>2327169
and this
>>2327202
If you're serious, I used to have one but stopped using it. It's filled with garbage art and is hardly updated. But…if you insist it's vampire-captain on tumblr like I said its full of really really bad art and cringe.
I also tend to post here a lot.
>>2327207
hes not serious and hes forced me to change my name
>>2327213
>using a name an anonymous Vietnamese image board
Found your problem.
>>2327213
I'm also still gay.
>>2327233
you probably improved, the pic just doesnt show it
>>2327224
please stop
>>2327236
Is that really so bad? I think my improvmet really slow but you think there nothing?
>>2327264
Sorry man..
>>2327264
I can definitely see the improvement, the viking and the girl look way way better than anything from 2014. Don't feel discouraged man
Left: my first drawing four days ago
Right: the ones I did before bed yesterday
It aint much, but it keeps me going
I progress very slowly and I'm wondering if any of you have and anti chicken scratching practices I can do.
I don't have much really old stuff, lost a lot of it. But here's what I do have.
(Sorry for the subject matter...no bully pls)
I don't think I've really progressed any. I need to get back on that grind.
>>2327236
You've got a pretty bad eye, anon. Far less muddy, generally better color selection, in general just better done. Obviously he's not become some golden god of art in the span of a year, but nobody has and his stuff is nice.
To >>2327233 I think I saw your knight reading the newspaper in the other thread, if that was you. I like the way you do armor.
>>2320741
That game has such a fantastic art style.
>>2327448
You haven't been challenging yourself
>>2327712
This is such an inane non-statement.
>>2327441
Check dynamic sketchibg with peter han
>>2327448
Well, you went from total flat and stiff drawing, to a more natural and 3d feel, that's a good improvement.
>>2327712
>>2327720
Well, I do feel like I have been challenging myself but he's probably a bit right, I could've challenged myself more.
>>2327731
Thanks, it's hard sometimes to see such little progress but it's nice to know someone can see it.
I started taking art classes for fun in uni and those helped me a bit, but it was this semester I took 2D design and the teacher didn't actually teach anything and instead just made us design things. I didn't take away much from the class but frustration and it actually killed a bit of my drive to practice. Which is dumb, I know but all I can do is look forward and try to do better.
>>2326241
>tfw I will never improve
I really really really fucking dig this style, how did you got better? Loomis?
>>2327740
I'm not him, but the anatomy style in his drawings seem pretty much inspired in Burne Hogarth's style.
>>2320718
>that KV-2
My nigga.
I have decided to get into art and the first thing I did was check the 4chan art board. This thread has greatly inspired me! Right now I can only draw stick figures and I plan to improve greatly.
I sure hope self-study works because I have no plans to go to art school. Wish me luck /ic/ and see you in a future progress thread!
>>2327796
See you in beginner thread
im better than i was before
>>2325850
Haha I actually really like that girl screaming "help".
>>2326316
I actually like the first one more, the colors are more interesting. The new one is generic SU-inspired crap.
>>2325850
I enjoy all of this. Your art has this childish sense of humor that has been consistent since you began drawing at age 3. It's a great style. Keep it up.
I'm trying
>>2328376
Took the words out from my mouth, that's exactly what i was thinking
>>2328565
This is the most inconsistent prog. so far
I thought I didn't make any progress, until I created this picture.
>>2320679
Wow fuck you.
You did a good job Nile ignore asswipes like this cocksucker.
>>2323975
Loomis has become a meme here for some reason but he's still good to learn from.
Figure Drawing For all it's Worth is the best place to start for Loomis.
George B. Bridgman is also another great artist to learn from.
I don't have time to make a more comprehensive comparison since I'm about to leave on a trip but
>>2322983
how
just how
>>2323281
fuuuuck
little one, but basically of the same character. left was when I tried coloring something for the first time... not pretty. I'll maybe do a more complete one if I have time.
>>2325850
That plant you drew when you were five is my favorite.
>>2328917
starting to use colors is a progress huh
>>2328565
h o w
o
w
>>2330194
You are kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding
>>2330280
is this a good thing or a bad thing?
>>2328565
is there actually no progressm and you just picked early bad drawings and late good ddrawings to make it look like an amazing progress?
>>2330313
no, why would I be ?
>>2330319
I spent more time on the later drawings, but there are still noticeable differences in how i balanced values/colors, used my brushes, composed images, did linework, etc.
I'm pretty scattered with my more finished work since I scrap so many sketches/ideas, and I guess it wasn't the best idea to post a big jumble of random things that I produced that I liked at the time.
The 2 full paintings at the top were for the AP art portfolio, so I definitely tried and made them as best as I could. And I know this is a lot like a "please don't kill me I can explain", but the times of the clusters are pretty wide, and since the times varied certain things began in say the first day of the month ending weeks later, and somethings I did in 1 day towards the end of the month.
>>2330325
I mean that it's an awesome progress in one year
How do you guys find the motivation to practice several hours a day each day when progress is so slow? Sure there is no way around it but still it's depressing.
>>2330331
Oh thx man, ill try and find the time to make a bigger one with my anatomy in it, thats where I improved a ton recently.
>>2330355
>>2330384
Maybe I am wrong but drawing is a bit different than sports. You can't just endure the exercise but you have to concentrate and think. The impatience and hate for the task distracts from this.
>>2330329
thx for the insight
This is 5 years of progress. Yes, I know, this improvement should have been accomplished in a month according to /ic/ standards, but I am lazy. I want to take this more seriously tho so I appreciate the criticism.
>>2330398
That's both true and untrue. You can still benefit from loathsome work, though yes, if you like it. it will go in way easier and you're more likely to internalize it.
The problem is you have to find your rhythm, find music you like to hear or play little games with your exercises, such that you do feel like you can make things you like to look at or like thinking about.
A spoonful of sugar etc etc etc
>>2330420
Anon please tell me the left is after, otherwise I don't know what you've been doing these five years.
>>2330398
There is tons of overlap actually. The mental fatigue and self-doubt affects athletes as sure as it does an artist. The real difference between artists and athletes are that athletes are high test and don't have emotional baggage and suffer from nihilism like artists seem to.
Watts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0MrnzBJ8M
tl;dr by Sycra (yeah, I know)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKFfSl-EBfI
>>2330428
i dont know what he was doing eithr way
>>2322156
almost all of the lines don't even meet at the same perspective point.
My favorite part is also where the person has blatantly ignored the guides for the figure like on the very bottom.
>>2321717
Wow. This is watching someone with what looks like a natural talent follow the wrong road into stupidity. I'm not trying to be harsh, but this is fucking sad.
