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starting the thread with my question
>>2316822
>>2316822
>>2316822
send help
How do I cross hatch? Any tutorial?
Anyone have tips/tutorials for digital lineart?
Are the General's charcoal pencils similar to the Staedtler 8B lumographs? I'm using the 8B now and really like how it feels and how I'm able to sharpen it to a nice taper, but I want to move to charcoal pencils.
What are some /ic/ approved books or tutorials or youtubers or any material whatsoever on caricature?
>>2316949
yeah
i have a legal question.
So, im in the middle of drawing an adult NSFW picture of an E-Celebrity (though I'm hesitant to call her that, more of a professional victim)
And, as such, they are quick on the "trigger" to think everything is an attack on their person. (they wanted mean tweets to be banned)
So, I wanted to know, what actions I can take (other than not publish the picture) that could not get me sued for slander.
What changes should be made or how much of a "caricature" does it have to be?
DESU, I'm not going for realism with this picture, its more stylized.
Hi, I'm a beginner artist and I've been practicing drawing seriously for at least 2 years, on and off.
Usually what happens is I have a period where I work really hard, and then sort of burn out and stop drawing for a while, then take it up again.
Art is only a hobby for me, and I'm not aspiring to become the next Kim Jung Gi or anything, but should I have a set practice schedule and work everyday, even if I don't feel like it? I worry that if I force myself to draw even if I don't find it enjoyable, I'll eventually decide to give it up forever.
Any good grips for either pencil or pen that work well with an injured thumb? I am seriously starting to consider going with the retard fist.
>>2317117
I'm no expert on this but I think you could give that standard "not related to any real living persons" kind of disclaimer.
How do you guys combine school with art?
I can only seem to focus at one thing fully, if i split my workload itll end up in a 20-20 split with a lot of gaming and other bullcrap to fill the rest.
I wish this year was just over so i could draw fulltime :/
>>2316830
ill make an update in a few days computer problems have kind of plagued me recently.
>>2316836
photoshop, filters, palette knife tool... granted this is for inking, it gets you a line that's good enough that you dont need to ink digitally.
>>2316945
looking at the color, you are looking at compressed charcoal sticks, possibly hard vine charcoal too but im not sure, go to blick and get their brand of compressed charcoal.
as for charcoal pencils, i have a few but haven't used them in a long fucking time, i may get back to you but i have to gear up for christmas bullshit.
>>2316949
>>2317000
i approve the watts video that floats around.
just looked it up on peers, apparently a fuckload of watts written material is now floating around, grabbing that and checking it out.
honestly you wont get consensus on anything here, you will only get people to avoid, and people who wont hurt your progress.
>>2317117
nothing will matter to them, they will post a bitch fit no matter what if i know who you are talking about, if they fail, they get to call the laws sexist, and if they win you get your ass in trouble... its a situation where the only winning move is not to play the game.
>>2317381
modify overhand grip for drawing, modify tripod for writing,
index and middle over ring under pinkie over, no thumb involvement at all.
thumb stabilizing (not grip just to make sure the pencil doesn't fall down) index under middle over ring over pinkie under
non thumb grips also demand a longer pencil to do right so you may want a pencil extender.
>>2317358
try to draw every day no matter what, you dont want skill to rot, working through burnout is something pros have to do, but as a hobby you dont have to but should still try to do something.
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i may go through the older thread and answer some shit, i may not, holidays kind of suck for me.
on that note, anyone know of a pen bundle that only has ultra fine tips? i like micron .05's but want a pack of just that
In CSP alt+space is zoom with pen drag, where can I find this setting to change it to a mouse button? Currently my pan/scroll button on the pen is just a hand dragging the whole image.
Can't find it in shortcuts.
>>2317524
I believe so.
Anyone know this artist? I really like the style. Google gave me only pinterest links
>>2317593
Google gave me Steve Purcell
What is a good way to memorize what I learn
>>2317674
Download the Accelerated Learning Techniques audiobook.
It feels a little bit like my pen nubs are scratching my tablet? It started making this terrible noise when I draw. How do you know when to change the nub? I still have a lot of nub left.
>>2317710
just change the nib and see if there's a difference
what art book should i start with?
i read the sticky but i dont know which one to start on.
check em
>>2317775
i suggest downloading maybe 5-10 titles that catch your attention then just "leaf" through them all. it's better to get an overview to see what suits your taste before committing to just one book at the start.
What books do you guys recommend for learning to draw hands?
how do i get bad
im so good everybody hates me
I really want to draw more than just straight up copying a pic. How do I use a reference without directly coping the entire picture 1:1? Also I'm afraid I'll only ever sketch things and never finish something. I want to move on from sketches, what should I do?
I was making an ironically bad anime drawing, because I thought it would be funny, but it kept on looking kind of decent. Why do my drawings looks better when I purposefully try to make them shit? They just feel less stiff than drawings where I actually try to do good on somehow.
>>2317927
be my friend and I'll love you for some lewd draws since you're good
and also you'll teach me some draw related things
Anyone mind sharing some videos on how to render or color a picture?
>>2317777
quads checked
In regards to animu style, I've always wondered why most female characters have puffy cheeks (on their face), and some animu (various from style) usually have the eyes rather spread apart from the nose.
>>2318085
Because asian people's eyes are far apart. Or it's just a stylistic choice. And female characters are given puffy cheeks because it's cute.
>>2318087
>Or it's just a stylistic choice
Where did that originate from?
>>2317777
holy fucking shit
>>2317777
NICE
>>2318096
I don't really know to be honest family, but I'm sure it is from asian's eyes being far apart.
>>2318126
Thanks for the info, that in itself explains a lot.
Can anyone name a few artists other than loomis thats good for beginner basics
is it my internet or what
i try to reply a pic on a post but captcha keeps expiring while uploading a small reso pic.
I don't understand how people like me who are bad at art do line work to draw everything and it all looks like high school doodles. Yet everyone I've seen who I would consider good at art just lays down color and value and slowly adds detail from there. It just doesn't make sense to me how to do it. It seems like good artists take such a different approach to creating something. How do you draw like that?
Still got a question about rotating objects in perspective.
>>2317490
>>2318188
im good at line art but terrible at color and values. when i was little i only use pen. i never used crayons or color pencils. it might be just getting use to it; hardwork or repitition. my teacher told me to just keep practicing and im kind of improving. baby steps. youll be surprised how it adds up in the end
wheres kr0npr1nz
Fuck a book, I need some 3d interactive shit.
> What is the best muscle/skeletal software that will let me see the shit from all angles?
> How will drawing from the right side of the brain help my figure drawing
> What book will help me learn to paint like Kr0npr1nz, inb4 le chromatic aberration
tasukete
What does /ic/ do when you don't know what to draw anymore?
>tfw getting gud but out of ideas to draw
So is Twitch a thing? would it be worth it at all to stream my drawings?
How long do I have to practice until my art doesn't look like autistic sonic fanart from deviantart anymore?
>>2318232
drawthreads on most boards, even tho majority is waifu lewd requests, you still got boards that arent oriented that way, or just dig through ideas
Are there any books out there about the Russian/Chinese oil painting method?
>>2318150
Ruan jia, Craig Mullins, Sparth , hgj
my heads come out looking like eggs or potatoes when i draw a circle for the upper half. how do i get a rounder look? maybe it's the jaw proportions idk
>>2318284
Anon, obviously I don't know who you are but I would still love to check out your stream if you ever do.
Is Pixiv worth keeping and updating with clusterfucked japanese tags or should i stick to DA and Tumblr?
I am ignorant of social networking and shit.
>>2316830
How do I into perspective
Why is it so hard?
Scott Robertson's How to Draw is frustrating me
>>2318486
>Draw square
>Draw diagonal lines extending from each corner
>Now connect the lines to form another square
>Drawn cubes and rectangles with parallel lines inside larger square
>Congratulations, Shinji!
Now look up two-point perspective
Is there an uptapped market on reddit for shilling?
>>2317117
Is it sarkeesian
>>2318486
Try multiple different sources to see if there's anyone who can explain it to you in a way you understand. Perspective didn't click with me at all until I watched Perspective Series 12. I tried reading about it a bunch of times from multiple sources but I was always confused until then for some reason. There's a torrent of it around somewhere, if you want to give it a shot.
Guys, give me please a gif/youtube/text description how to build TRAPEZIUM in 2-point perspective.
I can build cylinder (by utilizing diagonals of cube), cube, triangle (by splitting cube) so far.
>>2318486
http://www.marshallart.com/other/shop/videos/index.php
It's 100x easier to understand.
>>2318607
>only $12
Now I feel bad for torrenting that years ago.
>>2316830
When it comes to drawing lips, how can I colour and render in PS without them turning out like nigger lips or prolapsed rectums?
>>2318758
You put the tablet down, pick up a pencil and paper and spend the next couple years learning how to draw.
are there any good resources online to learn about drawing like cloth, and how it folds and creases?
>>2319337
do you own a shirt
>>2318188
Can anyone answer this?
>>2319365
it's just about shaping silhouettes of surfaces and then add direction of light to figure out values. Then you sharpen up the contrast and fine tune the details. Not sure what is difficult about it desu. Never had to had it explained.
It's easy to get a silhouette right and once you are there filling the details in comes easy.
I'm looking for a specific terrible photobash by some European guy - I remember it was a picture of a mossy canyon with large-rooted trees and a couple of birds, along with some lazy brushwork, low-res photos, and obvious seams. It was notable because I believe Magic the Gathering had used it officially, and he apparently runs an online school of some sort. Ringing any bells?
How do I rotate objects in perspective?
As i understand it a study of art can be divided in two major parts: brain and motor.
There are great number of tools to compensate poor motor skills, starting with the usage of 'hairy' line and not to mention filters, CG, etc.
At the same time nothing can compensate the absence of understanding form, colour, perspective, motion.
I am a beginner. Will it work for me if i train my brain mostly (studying perspective with some basic perspective drawing) and only after i have made a big progress in perspective will turn to classic excersizes like drawing nature morte etc.
>>2319475
Learn to observe things to the point where you understand the dimensions of it. Drawing that object while observing it is a good way to realize what you were not paying attention to. Then it's just a matter of visualization.
Try to zoom out or rotate and flip your image if you are stuck.
Cross posting because the other isn't getting help.
I'm working through keys to art, I've got one huge fucking problem, that being, I'm using a tablet for the first time in my life, cheap little thing I got from a friend.
On paper with pen, I can make a mostly straight line, but that's drawing from the wrist (bad???) I've been working on the reflection of a bottle practice and I can't make a straight line for fuck all. The pen catches all my micro jitters, all the little catches and it causes and ugly thing to appear on the screen.
As is, I've got the tablet leaning around a 45 degree angle, pitched between my solid keyboard tray and the top of the desk. IT's not the desk, but my arm, I know it. Is my positioning wrong, or is this a skill thing? I see so many artist with desks that are angular as all fuck, and just practicing the movements in air makes me feel like I'm doing it completely wrong.
Any help for the beginner?
Here's what I have so far, as you can see it's top tier shit.
>>2319947
Well try and lay your tablet exactly as you do your paper and draw a line. If it's still off, it's not your positioning - though the difference in hand-eye coordination does make a difference regardless. Your coordination will improve with practice, and you can always use the tools in whatever program to create a straight line if you need a clean one, just like if you used a ruler.
As for the jitters, could be your tablet, could be the program. Photoshop is kind of bad for this I find, some programs have stabilizers that fix it, photoshop lacks one built in. There's a program called lazy nezumi that does the same function in photoshop though.
>>2319951
I feel like using shift ( photoshop CC) is super cheating though. I'm supposed to be learning how to do this as though it's a pen and paper, right?
This is just now, I did a straight line with the tablet flat on table.
I might look into other programs, sai and the like, but I'm most familiar with photoshop (3 years exp)
>>2319965
Step 1: Hatch in one direction
Step 2: Hatch in another direction.
there you go buddy.
Why do so many artists refuse to draw males? I see tons of artists i like draw tornado (or whatever the green glowing girls name is) from one punch man and say they refuse to draw saitama or genos or mumen or any male basically. And lots of people will only do studies of women, not men. Including like arms and hands? It doesn't make sense to me
>>2320013
Sexual attraction is a strong motivator, anon.
It's why I'm learning to draw, for the porn.
How do I finish my drawings? I start, continue and shit and I really stick to it a good two hours. Next day, I find super hard to go back and finish my drawing.
I simply force myself to draw by just telling me
>just finish this little bit, It's too small you can´t say no.
But I just finish that little bit and go fap, start another drawing or do something totally random.
Any help? Have you ever in this kind of ADD experience?
>>2320015
...really? That's a little disapointing.
>>2319965
Get alphonso dunns new book "pen and ink drawing: a simple guide." if you can't afford it, watch his youtube videos (alphonso dunn)
>>2320023
I've always drawn, since I started school I've always taken art classes ( and learned shit all from them.) If I'm not doing something for fun, there's no reason to doing it, and sexual things are fun for me.
I don't want to make a career of it, I just want to use it for my personal gain, and perhaps to please others with the things I make.
I guess It's a little more than just sexual attraction, but it's too complicated for little me to verse for you.
(Really though, The female form is pleasing to the eye, and I see no reason why not to draw from it exclusively, sure you're stunting yourself, but if you're only drawing women, you're getting real gud.)
>>2320028
post your work
>>2320040
I can't. I don't have any yet. I burned it all in a small mental breakdown a year back.
It was shit, so I guess take everything I say with no backing.
How do I learn to draw cars? Is it difficult? Like, I could do it within two months of studying?
I am just beginning to understand perspective.
>>2320073
Read "How To Render" by Robertson. Your pic was probably made by him.
>withing two months?
if you're hard working - yes.
>>2320080
I have both of his books. Should I focus on that one for my question specifically?
does anyone have a "best of" folder of Joel Jurion and PoJu
I want to study their styles but even typing their names I feel like I'm going to get vanned
>>2320084
If you're good enough then yes. If not, lurk /hr/. They have a really wide collection of car pictures you can use as reference.
I want to try to reference some real porn and do a short animation but I have no idea where to go with this.
How do I walk to the drawing table? Other people makes it look so easy but I just can't get it? Is there an extensive manual on how to put one leg in front of the other that you guys would recommend?
>>2317939
1. Stop looking at your references, and start understanding them. Think of them as 3D objects, and draw them as such. Draw some perspective lines. Draw as if every part of the body were transparent; if an arm is hidden in your reference, don't hide it. Use your understanding of the figure to draw that arm. Don't just shade in a nose, but draw shapes where you see them underneath the skin. Draw a circle where the neck connects to the head, even if you can't see that point. Draw the eyeballs. Draw the soles of the feet from a top-down view.
Use your references actively, not passively.
2. Depending on whether you're psychologically stuck on sketches, or if you just don't know how to render, I'll give you two different solutions.
If your problem is psychological, then remember that your sketches and studies exist to prop up your finished works. If you really want to kick yourself in the ass and make yourself finish your pieces, then burn your sketches the moment they've served their purpose. You don't have to do this forever--just until you've driven the importance of finalizing pieces into your head.
If your problem is more knowledge-based, just check Youtube for rendering, coloring, soft-shading, linework, painting, etc. tutorials. Read up on the elements and principles of art if you haven't already, because they can make the difference between amateur and professional artists given the same anatomical or technical skill.
For a beginner, what's regarded as the best material for studying gesture?
>>2320530
Try Proko on youtube, his videos are idiot-proof, I ate his shit up when I was a beginner. And for further reading, there's Vilppu's drawing manual and Michael Hampton's figure drawing book.
i have a pirated copy of PS 5.0 that ive been using for well over 6 months now without issue until recently. that past few days out of nowhere it's been crashing randomly (usually after being open for a while) for no apparent reason. im guessing i should just uninstall and find another torrent?
>>2320547
You could try reinstalling it first.
>>2320546
Thanks a lot anon, I highly appreciate it.
>>2320530
Vilppu. Others focus too much on this Ss, Cs,and straights bullshit that just needlessly complicates things. After you study Vilppu, begin to study from as many different sources as possible, but always keep in mind Vilppu's teachings.
>>2320021
Blease Resbond D:
I have a question about practical application of 1 point perspective.
For example im drawing legs. One foot is slightly forward towards vanishing point. Hence i need to draw it with perspective convergence.
I can think of two methods.
Method 1. I project the front leg on lines connecting front leg and VP.
Th resulted rectangular i measure with pen and then through parallel lines 'move' to the side.
Method 2.
I start by creating big rectangular. I split it in two parts by intersecting diagonals. In second part i draw my front leg.
First part i project towards VP and inside projected rectangular build second leg.
Are there any better short cuts?
>>2320763
(and a second method)
What should I read/watch to learn about construction? All I've been practicing is drawing portraits and now I can't draw anything else.
>>2320770
How about starting with the sticky
Any good books/pdfs on Color Theory?
>>2320790
loomis is shit tho
>>2320802
color and light james gurney
>>2320805
Can i find 0033's (http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317) stuff translated into enrish anywhere?
>Sorry for posting again but thread is dead
What should I focus my studies on to eventually draw similar to katsuhiro otomo
>>2320763
>>2320764
>tons of questions about perspective like these
Listen. Hopefully you can draw a cube that you keep tilting 10 degrees randomly between each picture. You shouldn't even need a cube for reference to do this. The reason you can't do this with a body is simple because you don't understand the shapes of a body well enough. You need to start observing by drawing from reference and life studies. It's not some knowledge that is genetically coded into you that you can unlock like some power-up shortcut. Drawing and painting is a craft and you need to improve at it as such, lot's of practice.
The only help I can give you is to start drawing things that doesn't make the process feel like a chore. And no, I can't tell you what that is for you.
>>2320891
P-dumb question imo. You just focus on fundamentals.
>>2320891
Your basics. Once you get good enough you will realize what you need on your own. Since you had to ask it is probably some distance away.
How to assign tools NOT TEMPORARILY to the pen buttons in CSP?
I have a friend who is bummed out when i told him that "anyone can get better at art if they try hard enough!". Said it made it feel less special and not so good. Is he doomed? He isn't that great but has aspirations to be a concept aratist
>inb4 this is me
NOt really, but if it gets me my answer yes i am a insecure faggot with this issue what do.
>>2320971
your friend sounds like a fag
>>2320971
Everyone with the necessary dedication can get good
Not everyone has the necessary dedication
Does that make you feel better?
>>2320971
The only really valuable skill in life is the ability to study. Sharp wits and talent may give you a head start but a diligent student will not only catch up to you if you are lazy but also rush past you. The winners of the game of life is usually those who work hard, not the talented. Universities aren't filled with people of sharp wits (There are some) but instead mostly those with an ability to study. And not having an easy time understanding something is exactly what motivates some to get good at it.
>shit imagination
>keep drawing from imagination with no refs
How dumb am I?
>>2321022
you're me
I'm you
Seriously tho, I suck at life drawing, I suck at traditional art and yet I can see form when I'm doing digital art
Fuck this man I'll never be able to expand my visual library
>>2316830
Anyone know what painting this is?
I don't understand how people like me who are bad at art do line work to draw everything and it all looks like high school doodles. Yet everyone I've seen who I would consider good at art just lays down color and value and slowly adds detail from there. It just doesn't make sense to me how to do it. It seems like good artists take such a different approach to creating something. How do you draw like that?
>>2321032
Holy shit, so much this. Sometimes I waste 1 hour on a drawing and it ends up looking like a doodle that someone would do in 15 seconds...
>>2321032
Is this a new meme?
If I suck at coloring, should I focus more on black-and-white stuff instead of trying to do something I'm bad at?
I mostly work with traditional if it's any help, but here's something digital for the trouble...
>>2321030
I did all the reversed images searches...
So I save frequent drafts of my work as a PNG as I go, and I'm curious if there's any way to make this process less annoying in photoshop.
Whenever I hit save as it defaults to saving as a photoshop document, which is a pain. Is there a way to make it default to PNG? Or better yet, a way to automate it saving consecutive images (IE "001.png "002.png") without me needing to change the name each time?
>>2321042
You should focus on learning how to draw first.
>If I suck at coloring, should I focus more on black-and-white stuff instead of trying to do something I'm bad at?
What a retarded question. How are you going to learn color if you never try?
>>2321052
You can use the "save for web" option (If CC then it's hidden in the file menu). You can have presets in there. It gt a shortcut key but you can modify that too. I know there's an auto save function too but I have never used it.
How can i rotate object in 2 point perspective? For example i build default box. How do i rotate it? Step by step explanation would be nice.
>>2321070
It's actually a great question and your answer is wrong. Values are WAY more important than color, so for anyone who wants to learn to paint, working in greyscale until you have an eye for value is the best way to learn. Then you move into color.
But I agree learning to draw is step 0.
>>2321228
I thought drawing was synonymous with working in greyscale.
>>2321278
Working with no hue is working in grey scale. The medium doesn't matter.
just started reading perspective made easy. i noticed it doesnt directly state projects to do like keys to drawing. So what am i to do while reading? sticky said it had a lot to do to go with reading it. im probably just retarded.
Can rendering hinder my progress if I just want to create good line art first, or do I need to do both?
how long should bargue plates take?
>>2321327
Whenever you learn something new you try to figure it out and aplly those skills to make sure you understand it.
If it's some shit about 1 point perspective, compose a picture using that method. Same for 2 point and so on.
Use some creativity and sweat it out.
What are good resourced for rendering? Specifically in pencil and ink. I can handle perspective and and construction, but besides blocking out BASIC shadows with pencil, I'm a noob.
>>2321327
He tends to occasionally say "try and imagine x" or "try and do x", and he also summarizes his key points at the end of each chapter. Just try and put those things into practice.
>>2316830
Would pic related be a good image to start a new study thread with?
I don't want a bunch of anons getting pissed at me.
>>2321494
It's an okay image, but the focal length they've used makes her face look really odd (at the expense of exaggerating her chest).
Do you guys have a daily/weekly schedule for drawing? Like, do you have warm ups and lessons planned for the day and what are they? I'd love to hear. Also, how disciplined are you?
>>2321216
Pweese wespond.
There was this infographic for painters, which suggested using CMYK model instead of the regular RGB model for color mixing.
Can anyone post it?
>>2321707
Maybe you suffer from this http://www.disabled-world.com/disability/aphantasia.php ?
I'm an Arts and Technology major, but mostly focusing on user experience related design, so I haven't really had to take more than a basic drawing class for my branch of my degree. Recently I have been watching to learn to actually draw, but only really want to draw manga, as I spend all of my time at home and school reading it.
My question is, are there any good resources out there for getting started with drawing manga? I looked through the sticky/wiki and I understand all of the information, but in order for me to be able to practice/work on anything, I have to enjoy it, and I don't really enjoy drawing anything that isn't manga.
I'm assuming all of the basic principles apply, but I was just wondering if there is anything out there I should check out specifically for this.
>>2321731
Ha-ha.
No.
Rotating box in 2point perspective demands geometry tools, it's not imagination stuff.
>>2321740
>demands geometry tools
Or you could just visualize the box rotated and draw it?
>>2321742
Jesus, i ask for geometry tools, you, for the second time, insist on just using imagination.
Why are you so difficult?
>>2321743
Well, good luck trying to find your tool if it exist. I was mostly just puzzled by your odd request.
i've only started really practicing in the past month, and there is one thing i am struggling with more than anything else. when i am trying to draw something i am looking at, i am having a very, very hard time giving different parts of the drawing the correct proportions and placement relative to all the other parts.
for example, i was drawing an old army officer's hat, and i just can't get the general shape right because i have an extremely hard time making sure that the bill is sized proportionately to the top, placed in the right spot relative to the top, etc.
if i ever manage to luck into getting these things right, i can do things i am proud of and i feel confident in myself but when i sit around and fiddle with pretty much the most basic step for an hour for something incredibly simple like a hat, i get really extremely frustrated.
what do i do?
>>2321750
You have to keep observing and practicing visualizing different parts of the figure with corrrect proportion in your mind. Also keep stepping back from the work or look at the work from a distance to correct wrong proportion caused by your eyes being too close to the surface of painting or drawing
>>2321750
Try to look more at what you are drawing before placing anything on paper. Think of it's proportions. Then you put it down on paper. But don't draw any details or form yet. Just the biggest shapes. Try to get the proportions right before drawing the forms of what you see. Could you post your work?
You could also try measuring things before drawing them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaMiY9siLIE
>i sit around and fiddle with pretty much the most basic step for an hour for something incredibly simple like a hat, i get really extremely frustrated
Don't get frustrated. That's normal. The basic steps are the most important. That's the hardest part of any drawing.
Why is the majority of porn artists male?
>>2321770
men are usually more creative.
>>2321780
>lol as if this is why
>as if it has nothing to do with men being predominantly aroused by visual cues
You might as well switch it and say 'Why is the majority of erotica writers female?' and answer with 'women are usually more creative'.
>>2321814
Except it would be wrong.
Is it me or does CGPeers not check how much your downloading?
I've downloaded at least several dozen GBs worth, yet it says I've downloaded 0.0GB (it tracks my upload perfectly however).
Is it because of the "freeleech" label? Cause everything seems to have that label.
>>2321814
m8 there are lots of gender differences, but you are pullin a full retard right now if you really think 'men are more creative' is one of them. Porn artists are predominantly male because men are predominantly aroused by what they see when compared to women. Women are aroused more by inner working shit (a particular character, imagination, personalizing a scene in their head, etc). That's kinda why women have self-inserts and men don't care if they relate, they just want to see pussy pounded. Tons of evidence for this, and just plain common sense. Unless you think all those shitty erotica novels are aimed at men and all that hentai is aimed at women.
It has nothing to do with creativity. There are no definitive studies showing any difference in creativity levels between the sexes. But creativity is a damn difficult thing to measure and the neurosciences are complicated, so maybe that'll change someday. As far as we can tell, that's just not the case.
Unless you don't care about the sciences like some kind of sjw, go right ahead believin that m8. whatever works for you. But don't go spreading your retard in the question thread. It doesn't help anyone.
Is it a bad thing to be doing chicken scratch on a sketch?
>>2321814
Oh, forgot we were suppose to be political correct. Just talking from experience. When it comes to the drive to conquer new fields and single minded pursuits then men tend to dominate. That tends to foster creativity. Generalizing of course.
>>2321851
Basically yes, but it's not as bad as ic would make you believe. Chicken scratching usually comes from a lack of confidence, and it makes for a weak looking drawing. Try to learn how to lay down confident lines instead of feathering out everything. It'll take time, but you'll be better for it.
>>2321851
no. Just do whatever works best for you. Eventually you will get more knowledge about where to place the lines. Chicken scratching is likely just you making estimates and judging which of the lines you want to extend on.
>>2317852
Loomis has a book, How to Draw the Head and Hands
>http://alexhays.com/loomis/
I haven't read it but judging by the title this is probably what you're looking for.
>>2321830
>Is it because of the "freeleech" label?
It should be.
Which book should I start with? There's a bunch of books recommended but which is the best for beginners?
>>2321890
Keys To Drawing or Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain
Check the sticky
anyone have a problem thinking about art as construction instead of just mindless whimsical repetition? mostly when I'm shading I do it just from memory and it doesn't feel like I'm really actively thinking about it most of the time. is this potentially harmful?
>>2321896
thx senpai
>>2321900
also what's with kim jung gi and his wild wacky faces
Other than lines, circles, shapes, and figure/gesture drawings, what other fundamental stuff should I be doing and how should I do it?
Question: I Have had a broken leg for a few days and can't get the motivation to make some art. how do you force yourself to make some art?
Should i update to windows 10?
not internet savvy so not sure if i would lose any of my files or the way they are organized as well as driver problems, specially with Photoshop
>>2322004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBGwisx7y8E
Jokes aside though, NO.
>>2322004
Backup all your important files on a USB drive or onto some cloud. Update if you're on 8 or Vista or some other shitpile. If you're running 7, I would recommend not updating. It's too much of a hassle. Valuable time spent messing with computer dickery could have been spent drawing.
>>2322004
Stick to 7 or 8.
I know failure is an important part of art. (And I really wish I didn't need to remind myself of that fact). But how can I not let it get me down? As in reduce the pain of fucking up a drawing?
>>2322025
There's no magic answer to this besides tough it out, honestly. It's all your mentality. Best I can suggest is just review your fuckup and think 'what did I learn?' - what not to do/where you went wrong/what you need to study more.
Count it as a step on the path to gitting gud and learning to notice your mistakes, and hang on to your let-down art and compare it to the let-down art (or even the art you were proud of) of earlier months/years.
What the fuck is going on.
I was looking in the mirror one day and saw these extra muscle lines that I'm not familiar with. If someone could point out what the Orange muscle could be, that'd be awesome.
10,000 hours in paint, btw.
What's the best website to buy art supplies in Australia?
>>2322025
Discipline.
Just keep drawing. Even if you hate what you produce, just keep at it. Actually schedule part of your day to dedicate to creating art. Don't miss it. Don't make excuses. Just keep doing it.
>>2322100
red: biceps brachii
blue: deltoid
everything else: triceps brachii
Is it possible to deliver a 30 page colored comic in 7 days?
>>2322129
Sure why not? Pretty sure you could do even 100 pages of cyanide and whatever else it's called.
Can I get really good without having to take art classes? I'm aware that in any cas, it would take a long time but can I achieve the same level of skill without taking classes?
>>2322100
It's probably the brachial artery, if not then it's the coracobrachialis.
>>2322203
you know what, ignore this, I have no idea what I'm talking about.
>>2322122
Am I looking at Tricep brachii longus and medius?
There's like 3 different forms there that I'm having trouble distinguishing
What does foreshortening mean? I'm totally new to all this (and it doesn't help that English isn't my first language) so sorry if it's a dumb question.
>>2322239
Yes
Is there any folder i can find somewhere full of still life reference?
>>2316830
How do I make a homemade sketchbook?
Whats the best most thorough anatomy video series?
>>2322269
i'm a big fan of Scott Eaton's anatomy lectures.
>>2322269
Hampton did a constructive anatomy course, the videos might be floating around somewhere. I tried a few times to get through it but he always went a bit more in depth than I was ready for.
>>2320073
there's a book about how to draw cars in the art book thread, first link
>>2321900
I bet you would be able to hear stuff like "if just your line work is good enough then the inking comes natural" but I think you should pay more attention. Maybe stop thinking of a drawing as inking vs line work since those are bothl black areas that are a part of the same end result. Inking not only convey shape with the light direction but also texture. Information not necessarily shown in the line work.
>>2322004
Yes. If you will want to use dx12 in the future then you'll need version 10. Not updating within the remaining half year while it's free would be stupid of you and if you then don't like it for some reason you can always reinstall an older version or change OS.
>>2322100
Green is brachialis. Yellow + Purple are tricep. Remember that the tricep is made up of 3 sub-muscles while the bicep is made up of 2 and that affects their shape. The visible connection point at the green edge is the tricep. There are muscles coming from the lower arm that wraps over the brachialis and it connects to your Ulna on your lower arm. Unlike the Bicep the Brachialis is attached to your Humorus.
Hope that helped.
>>2322292
Here they are: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmvvULkxsc81Az2i_0wOIVVMkRJnPoA7i
The guy who uploaded is Vietnamese. Not sure how long this vids are gonna be up so please save them.
>>2320021
can anybody respond pls?
>>2322439
I can only tell you that I've got the exact same thing going on, sketch/fap/decide to do later/never usually do.
So far I've only worked out two plans that might work but I want to adapt : either not think about the whole thing when wanting to finish something, but rather focus on small parts, like drawing 1/3 of the hair, and slowly move in such small parts forward.
And the second, make only really rough drawings, like 5 min rough max, simple pose/construction, and after that move on to doing final lineart. That way I wouldn't get burned out doing it all over again. The current 1h+ "roughs" already look good, but I never end up finishing them lineart tier. I tried already twice and the 2nd method actually worked, just gotta get used to it I guess.
>>2322246
It's just applying perspective. Objects become smaller and shorter the further they are frim the viewer.
>>2322396
Those videos are everywhere. Just torrent them.
Anyone here know how to accept commission payments via Paypal anonymously?
when you start to lose motivation to draw after you have already drawn a bit for that day, is it better to just give in and just take a break for the rest of the day or to just keep trying to power through it.
>>2322266
I need help. I'm a poorfag with a fuck ton of loose paper.
How does drawing from life actually help me draw from animation?
How do I do it correctly?
Should I just break the figure down into simple forms?
Apologizing in advance for the silly (?) questions.
>>2322568
>imagination.
>>2322458
you need a business account and to sign up with a fake email. because you cannot hide the email, but pretty much everything else with a business account.
making a business account (i believe) requires only that you verify your bank account information (which nobody other than paypal has access too).
>>2322439
When you draw it is to communicate something. If it's boring then of course you would not want to look at it for long. Writers don't practice by writing stories they themselves think are boring either.
>>2322568
it will help make your animations more believable
>>2322568
Drawing from life makes you understand the concept of weight, hich happens to be essential in animation.
Ignore retards.
>>2322922
Which* happens, for fucks sake.
>>2321920
Anyone?
>>2322396
You might want to search other source
>>2322579
An ABN is required to make a business account for me. Problem is is that to get one I'll have to get an ABN under a business name which will cost me quite a bit, the alternative is to use my real name (which has no cost) but that kinda defeats the whole purpose.
I heard it's also a bad idea to add a fake legal business name and ABN because Paypal will find out about that shit and shut down the account.
So fucking annoying that they made it so difficult. You think Patreon would be a better solution?
>>2322447
Thank you
How can a guy be so attractive and so good at the same time?
His stuff (up close) looks very Zorn-esque tho.
I know it sounds very vaguely but how do you make your art more detailed? I was sad moody piece of shit for last two years so Ive just drawn things that are in my comfort zone, but now Ive tried hard to do something new, and, at example, Im sketching some background and i just dont fucking know what to put here. Or I am doing concept arting of outfits and they are all so minimalistic it is boring. Without references i just dont know what to put anywhere. Is it because i dont have enough experience with drawing it? Is my imagination shitty because of depression? Idk this question sound stupid I know but
>>2323104
Life isn't fair.
Miles Johnston very related.
Is learning ellipses important and if so, why?
>>2323137
Perspective indication.
>>2322507
>Grab stack of printer paper
>Staple thrice along edge of choice
>Tape over staples for a smooth binding
Should I start sending my portfolio to companies even when I don't see me having many chances, and then contact them again later once I've made some clear progress or would that hurt my future chances? Is there a thing as applying too early?
>>2323239
I think I've already asked this but I have an intuos pro 5 large, everytime I put my pc to sleep the wacom driver is completely fucked for some reason. Wifi works just fine after I wake the pc, but then it buggs with the cursor flying everywhere/random clicks as soon as I put in the usb cable in. HOW THE FUCK do you restart the wacom driver without restarting rhe computer.
Also, I already tried, it restarts, but it's literally not responsive, any help ?
>>2323382
and when I say it's not responsive, I mean no pressure sensitivity, doesn't work.
>>2323137
Well math and drawing are closely related. Math is all about natural flow and and any number can be visually represented with line and mass. Not only that but nature deals heavily in fractals in its designs. If you want a good flow, proper line relations and a good perspective then you need to have a feeling for mathematical relations.
Exponential change is common when observing rotation or relation changes like change or a warping of perspective.
When it comes to structure, construction and change then math is key. Having a natural understanding (Not necessarily academic) is fundamental for drawing.
is there a proper way to hold a tablet stylus, specifically a wacom brand stylus? i don't mean your preferred grip but literally how the stylus is 'rotated' in your hand. i prefer to hold it so that the buttons are always close to my thumb so i change my brush size quickly. i noticed this results in the nib forming a 'chisel' shape after a couple months of use. is this a normal amount of wear?
What is the best type of hot press(smooth) paper to use acrylics on?
For creating something like this I would draw human and cat faces using the fundamentals, right? I'm not too concerned about the rendering atm.
Do you think drawing anime and cartoons will negatively impact your ability? I just want to draw pokemon for fun.
STUPID, ODD BUT IMPORTANT QUESTION: Is there any fun way to get yourself a non-shitty pen name/nickname/username/artist name? my creativity for creating (or choosing) words is apparently absolute crap compared to my drawning skills, which is saying something.
I, of course, have the one I've been using for years since I joined the internet as a teenager, which for that same reason doesn't cut it anymore.
Also, what are your favorite artists names? (not necessarily your favorite artist, just cool pen names)
are there any books or docs or whatever that show or explain the technical processes of a manga artist? like what materials and paper they use and whatever
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I want to really dig into practicing some foundation areas on a hardxcore level.
First up: anatomy + figure drawing.
Tutorials: Don't need em. Already bogged down in far too many.
(My library dwarfs any collection you'll find online.)
What I need now is concerted *practice* — preferably focused on a single subject-matter area of large scope.
"large scope":
◣ can easily spend a bare minimum of 3 months plowing through content night and day as a start
◣ ideally more like {min: 6 months per foundation area block} w/o exhausting references etc.
▶▶▶ Is drawing porn a good avenue for me? ◀◀◀
▶▶▶ Any other/better subject-matter ideas? ◀◀◀
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◣ be: sci-fag; freelance webdev; freelance graphic designer
◣ [+]: analytical; strong eye; formal visual arts knowledge
◣ [--]: shit-tier manual skill; weakest with the human form
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▶▶▶ I am bipolar as fuck. ◀◀◀
So when I say "hardxcore", I mean full-blown mania.
Think:
◣ non-stop // obsessive // repetitive behavior
◣ tweaker-focus; tunnel vision; continuous waking activity
◣ regular episode ⇒ 1-3 days // major episode ⇒ 4-5 days
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Redirecting my crazy-person energy into serious efforts to bring up my drawing skill.
Plan: take it in blocks per foundation area. {min: 3 months} per block to start.
First block == worst area == anatomy + figure drawing.
Input appreciated on not picking turrble subject matter.
>>2324273
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[1] references: nearly every conceivable size // shape // pose // state of (un)dress available
[2] ~masters~: tons of much better porn artists for study + comparison
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Not entirely sure?
Hoping you could help out there.
Biggest concern so far:
[1] bad habits: developing muscle memory for shitty / symbolized women
>>2324279
Told you, I'm bipolar af. Often results in didntreadlol-length walls of text.
Ignore the unnecessary exposition, focus on the question.
Still perfectly valid, IMO.
Caveman-speak tl;dr of my post:
Me wanna spend metric fuck-ton of time practicing one thing.
Me make "one thing" be anatomy + figure drawing right now.
Me need subject matter for reference 'n shit.
Then me work mostly / exclusively with this.
Me think porn is good pick.
Anon think porn is good pick?
>>2324293
dude relax
>>2324291
Bruh, no social disorder here. I'm the life of the party.
Bipolar's a top-tier cheat code for attracting women, right up there with the dark triad etc.
'cause humans are stupid, stupid apes.
>>2324307
you come off as extremely delusional and obnoxious
>>2324275
Porn can be good for the reasons you listed, but be aware that if all you study is porn then your work will look like porn. This can be especially true if you study porn artist's styles. I remember reading a post on /co/ from a (relatively) well known porn artist who wanted to start making personal work and do fan art that wasn't smut, but was having a rough time because even when their work was innocent and had no nudity it still looked like smut.
>>2324279
>>2324291
Please make an effort to not shitpost
>>2324273
>>2324275
>>2324293
Overuse of caps, arrows and lists to try and draw attention does not make a post better, the contrary is often the case.
There's no good substitute for practice. Drawing is a craft so most of your 3 months should be spend drawing, not watching videos and reading about drawing.
Nobody cares about if you are bipolar. If it shows in your art in a good way then good for you but otherwise leave it for your blog.
>>2324297
>up for 80 hours straight
>buried my dog yesterday, 20F (-6C) + snow
Can't into relaxation, anon.
I'm not getting mad at anybody or anything, just wired.
>>2324313
>extremely delusional
Haven't made any exceptional claims about my ability, so dunno where that's coming from.
Stated outright that my manual skill is absolutely terrible.
>obnoxious
Always willing to agree on that, cause I frequently am.
Psychoanalysis is wholly irrelevant to the thread, though, so /fin.
>>2324314
That's what I'm worried about.
My big problem is that I currently can't reproduce free-flowing / expressive / dynamic figure imagery well enough freehand to make working from imagination too feasible -- even nudes drawn from clothed references come out super wonky.
Can visualize it fine, just can't get it on paper.
(Whereas I have minimal problems doing fairly decent geometric / drafting-style illustration from imagination, b/c there I'm working with tools + math + guided lines)
So it's primarily my lack of manual skill getting in the way.
I'd like to avoid exactly the problem you describe, but I can't think of anywhere else I can go to start building a *large* library of nude references for myself.
My thought on that was to limit my sources to softcore photosets for maximally natural (read: least "everything-he-draws-looks-like-porn") poses, but that basically reduces the scope of work to pinups only.
>>2324328
>up for 80 hours straight
>buried my dog yesterday, 20F (-6C) + snow
>Haven't made any exceptional claims about my ability, so dunno where that's coming from.
dude youre a lying aspie
>>2324328
Hey, you seem to write a fuckton of words, I'm the guy looking for a good nickname: could you give me one? In exchange, here's my opinion on your topic:
If you look at porn for your training, beware the fact that -like you're saying- you'll have to avoid those way too sexy looking pictures (or poses from videos if that's what you're working with), which will probably end up being a waste of time at the end of the day since you would have to make a finite selection from that huge initial porn selection. Perhaps you should try looking at non-porn, non-artistic nude references? (example: a nudist beach, I don't know...keep in mind the kind of poses you'll end up drawing a thousand times according to what you pick).
>>2324321
>Overuse of caps, arrows and lists to try and draw attention does not make a post better
If I can't force myself to cut a post down to a more reasonable size, the least I can do for those who have to suffer through the wall of text is to format it a bit.
Besides, I have all this shit hotkeyed via text expansion tools, so it's nbd to throw in.
>There's no good substitute for practice.
Right. I said that myself.
>Nobody cares about if you are bipolar.
I'm no special snowflake. I almost never mention it. I did so here b/c I'm anonymous and it's highly relevant to the prompt.
Datahoarding is something else I put a lot of manic time and energy into. It's the reason I have such a large library of tutorial resources — I've been obsessively collecting learning materials, artbooks, etc. instead of getting any real practice in for several weeks straight now.
These aren't things I'm proud of doing or even want to do.
They're things I *have* to do. I find a branch to travel down and can't stop.
So if I have a moment, like now, to tear myself away from unproductive compulsions (like collecting more instructional materials than I could ever use) and point myself in the direction of a more productive one, I'm gonna do exactly that.
And that's what my post's wall of text was getting at. The advice I get here is gonna be applied to a fanatical degree. Anons sincerely looking to help should know that.
>>2324328
There are nude figure drawing resources that aren't porn, luckily. Check out the croquis cafe series on Youtube (~20 minute long videos of different timed poses, currently well over 150 unique videos) or go to http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/ which is another figure drawing tool. The poses are timed to mimic a real figure drawing session, but you can pause them and draw them for however long you'd like. It is good practice to do the shorter poses and focus more on the gesture of the pose, though.
>>2324329
>lying
What do you want, pics of the fucking coffin?
And "ability" clearly meant creative ability. Bipolar is a mental health disorder, not an ability.
If you can't even imagine being awake that long, try being less of an illiterate before posting.
Google bipolar, "eugeroic", or even just goddamn "meth."
Enough shitposting. Shoo.
>>2324333
I saw that post and normally I'd consider replying to it, but my own request derailed this thread enough already that I thought I'd avoid any unnecessary stuff.
What's your style? Any names you like or themes you wanna work with?
(Not necessarily much of a qualification here, but one of my majors was linguistics. Contemporary langs I can draw on for brainstorming: german + english (fluent), basic school-french. Dead: sanskrit, latin, greek.)
