stop browsing and be productive, feel free to post good study images that have environment + figure as well
>>2251948
Finally the op isn't just some cute girl, geez.
>>2251958
It's a generic hot guy instead of a generic hot girl. With shitty lighting and in boxers. It's not exactly the type of ref that teaches a ton.
will work on this more when I get home later
>>2252025
feel free to post your own, I just grabbed this one for some proportion practice
>>2252041
>proportion practice
>fucks up the proportions
it was some bad practice huh?
>>2252058
Woah you figured out why I'm practicing it!
Feel free to be productive as well and get some of your own studies/images or provide constructive crit! Try and avoid turning this into a shot post thread if possible
>>2252058
Cause that's why you practice, to get it right the first time and never practice again. Get the fuck out of here
>>2252058
complete idiot
>>2252058
Right?
I know I only practice the things I'm already good at because anybody who fails isn't cut out for art. :^)
every time i come to /ic/ i look for one of these threads and more often than not they aren't up so im going to post some stuff i have saved.
sorry if some of them are low res
>>2252041
was getting annoyed with the lighting and the legs so i just polished dat turd so i can do a diff study
>>2252191
work on the hips swaying ! and the direct consequence on the shoulders
>>2251948
his leg looks so weird it's creepin me out
>>2251948
Aaaand, of course it have to be whitest "handsome" male. Fuck off to your cesspool already or post real people.
>>2252702
this tbh
4Chan is problematic
shm fam
>>2252702
White men aren't real people? You racist bigot.
>>2252708
>anyone who doesn't subscribe to my butthurt identity politics white-male hate is a nazi
fuck right off tbh. go draw fat people of colors on tumblr if that's your thing.
>>2252702
Gr8 b8 m8
>>2252702
> Art is one of the most competitive professions
> someone attempting to make an actual good thread on /ic/ might lead to better artist being produced
> better artists = more competition = no one hiring shit-tier artists i.e. >>2252702
> attempts to derail thread
not on my watch
I tried /ic/, isn`t perfect but it was a good warm up.
OP HERE
next study = show me ur busts girls
>>2252866
why are you using short fat rough jabby brush strokes to represent the human body when the human body is long, flowing and smooth.
longer strokes.
make use of crtl+z, you are drawing digitaly, dont for get that, instead of sketching one line with many small lines, use the computers power to attempt a single long line but many times.
proportions are not bad, you have an eye for that, but pay more attention to the negative space, the shapes created by everything that is not the body.
>>2253632
what materials are you using? i really like that aesthetic
>>2251948
God, I really, really suck.
Damn, I find it really hard to study things with weak/even lighting. I feel like I have to make it up myself, and then I end up making up more than I need to.
Also looks like a mexican, my face referencing is horrible holy shit. Think I need some condensed session where I draw hundreds of random faces.
>>2253672
sanguine and white pencil on kraft paper i guess.
sanguine looks nice but it's a pain in the ass every time you try to sharpen them they break and it makes me fucking mad
did the anat by memory
simplified the forearm muscles
Shoulders are too broad, arms too thick. Guy looks like a potato. Halp
>>2253964
I don't think that's what you need anon. What you need is more careful observation. You messed up the arms and torso as well.
>>2253964
dont use a white background
>>2252058
faggot
>>2253775
This is Symbol drawing or just bad proportion?.
>>2251948
2shorts
dead laptop. finish this next week
I'm not used to drawing male figures so this was a good challenge. thoughts?
1/?
2/?
3/?
shit model but interesting picture
>>2254306
I'm doing a color study of this picture at the moment, love the tones of her skin and how everything contrasts with the blue sky.
>>2254160
Yeah I also suck at that. Perhaps if I do a million of these I'll actually be able to see the mistakes.
>>2251948
Messing around, should really finish my stuff.
>>2251948
What the fuck is wrong with his leg
>>2255835
Looks normal to me. Keep in mind that the lens used seems to be a long one, which reduces the apparent size change between foreground and background objects. The calf looks larger compared to the knee, and the foot looks larger compared to the calf than you'd expect to see with the naked eye.
facial features of this woman seem almost cartoonish, lets try her
>>2256185
that looks like the real version of a Kr0nPrinz girl
>>2256185
>Choker
T-Thanks for the ref anon
>>2251948
bleeeh
>>2256207
holy shit exactly, i was trying to pin it down but you got it spot on
>>2256207
Not asian enough, but close
>>2251948
bottom right is some random picture from online
>>2256207
Can't unsee.
>>2256639
Your values are off relative to each other, why is the face as dark as the hair
>>2256185
>>2257210
fuck with it even further, and you might have a nice piece of surrealism there Anon. It almost looks realy neat
>>2256207
Beat me to it.
>>2253447
>>2254414
>her
>>2257132
really nice
HOW DO I FUCKING IMPROVE ;_;
>>2260100
practice: 6-8 hours a day 7 days a week for 3-5 years and you should be fine.
Also, stop fucking chicken scratching.
>>2260100
you cant try resizing and cropping your imnages for a start anon
>>2260138
>practice
pfff, who gives a shit about practicing... srsly
>>2260147
ur mom
>>2260100
draw bigger
>>2260020
Damn that is a cool image, saved.
>>2256185
I'm done with this, I can't even make the face look right. Am I just doing observational drawing wrong or am I drawing with symbols?
>>2260246
Fuck, forgot image.
>>2260246
>>2260247
doesnt seem that horrible, you just made some small mistakes that start to add up.
you started her neck at where the choker begins,and ended it behind her ear, hence why it looks a bit fatter.
you also made the side of her face pop out more from the edge of her nose/lips (probably because youre afraid of doing two bordering lines too close), which makes her nose appear smaller and flatter than the original.
but all in all, i wouldnt call it terrible
>>2260247
Linework only needs to be pretty perfect to capture likeness. If you started adding shading to this and correcting it a bit along the way. Likeness would start to emerge.
>>2256185
Anyone else find id useful to do a quick redline on your own sketch before you go in to refine?
I've already done most of the refinement that I'm planning on though. Just listing anything that your eyes can spot that mine didn't would help a ton. (though I can see a few things as I upload this now. eg:shoulder level and posture.)
The girl is really fuckking pretty. Thanks for showing me Feyne.
>>2260790
u cant draw.
>>2260813
that was an old and awful soup opera, why the fuck it's a meme now?
>>2260806
Thanks for the crit man. I'll take it on board with all your other crap.
>>2260790
Despite your attempts, you're still symbol drawing.
>>2253775
that's why you practice! keep at it friend
>>2256185
studying some statues in my local park, any help with the values?
>>2260951
Maybe switch off the linework if you want to really test your values. The eyes and lips are flat, they need more planes and you used very few values to draw them. The image reads but I think the shadows would be a little darker in real life (or the light lighter). It's good that you actually went out to draw real stuff. I don't know if I should advise you to study some asaro heads from pictures because that would be a step down from real life observation but it would help you with breaking down the planes of the face.
>>2260790
mirror as you work, compare the slopes of the figure you've got
you probably jumped ahead to detail way too fast.
also datnose.jpeg
Try and picture what you're drawing as a 3d object, and what it would actually look like from that angle, instead of trying to plop features down
>>2256185
My boner is keeping me from drawing, help.
I'm not professional but heres some crits
>>2260951
do those exercises where you blend a circle/basic objects to have an accurate value range.
treat your subject like 3d forms
>>2260246
start with a background that is a similar value to the original image, and use a color that is found on the image to sketch out what you want. should probably be looking into a ton of construction stuff as well
>>2259957
not going to learn edges by plopping those lines in, if you're going to keep lines in try and make it look nice/important
>>2256639
why are you scribbling in a painting program, use a bigger brush/lasso tool
>>2260100
Thousands of hours of repetition with self critique. Take a life drawing course.
>>2260946
mirror your image as you work and do more construction. the eye that is further in the distance is LARGER than the eye that is closer to the camera. also note the length of the midface is too long which makes the mouth too low etc.
I did a redline but i dont even know if its useful cause i just drew the face ontop of yours
>>2256185
I feel like I'm symbol drawing, I'm trying to see the form but I end up drawing the shape instead
>>2261496
try and draw a skull underneat what you are drawing and compare it to an actual skull, the eyes are way too far apart, the lips are lumpy etc.
detail matters less than good placement
>>2261696
You need to go to the basics, seriously. Symbols, no construction, and no sense of proportions. Back to Loomis and maybe Drawing With the Right Side...
>>2260824
Thank you for saying something that I can at least use. (Still shitty at that other anon.)
>>2261223
Thank you too. I'm still trying to get used to the tablet again after stopping with digital for a few months so I do really appreciate those tips.
I should probably also use a more useful ref/get some anatomy in my head.
I fucked up the file and it went to an older state so I just decided to restart with the new tips in mind. Thanks guys.
>>2261245
Thanks for your feedback. With it in mind, I tried another revision.
>>2252702
>>2262832
i cant find any picture of this reference in the beginner thread
>>2265675
dats some studio mir shit right there
>>2251948
help
>>2266106
not bad mayn
>>2253447
rendering with value kills me
what am i even doing_v2
last one for now
Roman bust of a man yo
Must have dropped my tablet too many times, pen pressure doesn't want to work anymore
>>2268137
It's a bug with the drivers, look it up online to reset them to normal.
>>2253447
not sure why i didn't see something this obvious
during the sketching stages...
been working on some arm anatomy
>>2268551
bicep is a little small and short in the first one, the hand/wrist is all fucked in the second
i like the rendering tho
enjoyed this
>>2268824
feet of a dwarf
Can someone help me find interesting things to still life? I find myself wandering through my house trying to find an object to draw but never find anything I feel would make a good still life
I remember tehmeh once drew his meal in hospital.
How do I make boring things interesting?
>>2260016
being a complete retard
http://imgur.com/a/a7XkH
>>2268885
Do you ever draw any of the things you find boring anyways? You might have a different view of the object after studying it intently for some time.
>>2252058
Shaking my head, to be honest.
>>2273900
damn, sorry for no resize, I posted the wrong file
>>2273901
>I fucked up again
Could somebody crit this and give some pointers please?
>>2273908
I think you drew the face in the wrong place.
>>2273911
I had to cause I have no idea how to draw cloth yet
>>2262303
No.
>>2256185 First time I do study. Any tips ?
>>2274302
use lasso on hard edges
>>2274316
nice advice :^3
>>2274302
put faces on your humans
>>2274325
Yeah sure.. I just have a lot of work to do right now so I just passed the face
>>2274302
Use a different brush
>>2274340
Like ? Is round brush good? It's difficult for me to work with it
baka desu senpai kek
>>2274349
Don't listen to him. Your brush is fine and looks good, actually. Some people (read: rank amateurs) on this board fetishize certain brushes because they're ignorant.
>>2259957
If you were just going to trace it you might as well have done a full paintover too. Or better yet not bother doing it at all.
>>2274421
>traced
You're blind
>>2274427
Sure.
>>2274415
Ok thanks!
>>2251948
>>2274829
draw bigger
>>2252058
That's why is practice, you idiot.
>shitting on people who practice
This is why /ic/ is bad.
>>2275046
*it's
study thread > beginner thread
I just got tired of beginners threads they're full of doodlers drawing on lined paper.
let's make this a general.
been practicing seriously for about 2 months
>>2276370
forgot to resize it, sorry
>>2276375
Well are you gonna finish it?
>>2253775
looks like patrick swayze
>>2256185
Lines are very light because I drew with a 4h pencil
Going to try to do the shading with charcoal, will probably butcher it
>>2268547
>fucking up the sketch
This always happens to me.
i tried
>>2251948
Been a long while since I did something like this. It was fun. Gave myself a half hour.
Looking at it now, I see that the hips and torso are off as well as the musculature, and something about the head doesn't seem right to me. Obviously it's very scratchy, this was intimidating to do, but I had a good time.
>>2276732
i think this is the closest so far
>>2256185
Here we go. I see something in the mouth, jaw, and neck, the overall pose and direction the head is in. I haven't studied expressions or anatomy terribly much so this gives me something to aim for. Attention to the muscles in the face (eeek) and neck would be good too.
>>2276732
I really like it, it was inspiring anon.
>>2256185
Now I realize her head is actually tilted downward a little, but whatever.
welp, 10 mins testing out proko's gesture advice
>>2276375
I really like the musculature of this
I demand a study on this.
![42fc0bb9b0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EIe65FO.jpg "42fc0bb9b0[1].jpg")
I'm bad. Back to drawing 2hu and weeb crap ;_;
>>2265795
that thread is long gone, but he was referring to this one.
>>2277036
fuck that is really good
Just gonna leave this. I'll move on to environment studies now
>>2274302
Pretty happy with that but the face is still not very resembling
>>2252702
See:
http://www.tumblr.com
>>2274421
>traced
I'm going to take that as a compliment anon. The last time I traced something I was 8 years old. I've actually had this comment made a lot of time before, maybe my drawings always have a shitty trace-like quality to them. ugh
>>2277237
damn. People like you make me feel bad about my skills. This is amazing.
>>2277237
you arent paying attention to where the shapes should be.
>>2277237
I think the biggest problem in the face is that the eyebrows dont really match up, like in the picture. And also the eye farthest away from the camera is a bit small and compressed. Really good attempt though, but still need some more darker contrast to make things pop a bit more. dat nose tho
>>2277237
I'm so jelly, I could cry.
>>2277457
HERE COMES THE CRIMSON CHIN
>>2277457
You made her look 20 years older.
>>2277457
Than chin dude. She can cut diamonds now. Ho ree shit.
>>2276660
Laid most of the values with charcoal. Gonna finish up the minor details with pencil and polish highlights with white charcoal
And do the hair
>>2277250
>I'm going to take that as a compliment
I'm guessing you think I mean it looks too accurate for you to have done it on your own, but you're wrong. It looks like you did no constructing, merely threw down some weak contour lines, and some even weaker rendering beneath it. If you take pride in your work looking like that, good for you, stay where you are then.
>>2276864
thx anon
>>2252058
OHBOY
fuck im laughing
>>2277648
I take no pride in it, i know it looks shitty, but you can't blame me for interpreting your tracing accusation that way. I guess the only advice I can take from your hostile critique is do more construction and stop being shit, thanks.
>>2251948
>>2256185
>>2277008
my phone camera kinda fucked it up i think
>>2277788
Nice Atom Heart Mother
>>2254151
and here the art books said 8 heads was the standard height.....
>>2277788
I like it.
>>2251948
I was doing some figure drawing and I thought this girl was too cute to not draw.
I only drew the head though. I'll post tomorrow morning when I have better lighting.
>>2251948
ok guys, here's my attempt. That damn leg though.
>>2251948
Dangit. Photoshop crashed and this is the best I could salvage.
>>2254250
underrated post, this one's the best so far.
>>2254306
Constructive feedback welcome.
>>2256185
>>2278064
you've got bigger worries than the leg
>>2278064
You're drawing too much what you think you should be seeing and not what you're actually seeing.
Try flipping the picture and your canvas on it's side and draw like that.
>>2276732
really good, consider doing the rest?
>>2277237
- rework the hair, it looks too tidy and uniform.
- the eyebrows are too smooth
- lips need more light and shadow definitions, as those are very prominent in the original picture.
- fix the ear, the piece of hair going across it at the bottom doesn't match the original picture, making it almost seem like the entire top of the ear is falling off of the bottom half
- forehead shading is too flat
- shading under chin and at the top of the neck needs more light and dark, its too flat (mostly just needs more definition between ambient and diffuse)
- use a harder edge around the left boob (currently just looks like it blends in to the middle of her upper body, when the original pic has a well-defined edge), and also on the rib cage center line
wonderful work by the way
>>2277036
good understanding of values and lighting, work on edges and brushwork in general
>>2278124
probably the best in the thread. do you have a blog?
>>2278217
nah, maybe in the future
>>2278158
>wonderful work by the way
This is why I love /IC/
>>2278124
wonderful variation of strokes to achieve detail, texture and lighting where needed, you nailed it.
do you sculpt as well?
>>2278149
thank you. but no, i already filled the page with other stuff
>>2251948
>>2278274
thanks
nope I haven't tried sculpting, but I might when I'm better
This is as far as I'm going to take this.
Is wishful drawing a thing?
Because nearly everyone is drawing him with arms thicker than he has
>>2278539
Shoulders are a bit too high and right one is a little bit less turned forward, but pretty good overall, specially the legs.
>>2277565
Done!
>>2278880
Damn, nigger that's some good shit.
Do you have a Tumblr or DeviantArt?
>>2278880
i think it's nicely done. but the biggest problems are that her eyes aren't looking at the viewer and her neck seems rubbery and twisted
>>2278893
maybe you could add a little hint of the shoulders to make the neck look ore natural?
>>2273901
The hips should be slightly bent
you drew it too straight
>>2268551
Ha i know where did you took this from
>>2279008
stephen rogers peck
Jesus christ , i fucking suck ... this is not funny anymore.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
>>2279068
Love their feet and faces, beautiful
>>2279068
What image are you studying from?
>>2279068
can you post the ref?, i was trying to find it before.
>>2279076
>>2279080
>>2279083
thanks
i geek out way too hard over this painter, i've repainted three other paintings of his before.
Not sure if this question belongs in the study thread (though it is related to study), but can anyone recommend me a video series where each part of the human anatomy is broken down? I'd love one coherent series where it's just SHOULDERS, LEGS, ARMS etc. Thanks.
>>2279076
Nevermind, seeing they were done by someone else lmao
>>2279094
ns it's whatever
>>2254305
ok now this one.
>>2278144
thank you i think you're right.
Just a rough sketch with pencils, and markers. Took a photograph, cropped and then bwed.
oops this is a resized copy
>>2256185
This is actually one of the best reference images from a pinup site I've ever seen
No airbrushing, clear main light source (ambient though) + rim lighting from the candle. Do you have any more?
>>2256185
I tried... But feel like i lost the likeness.
>>2279324
Whoops forgot image
>>2256185
>>2279258
ye this is a really god image to ref from desu senpai
>>2279332
! forgot the choker
also is hiroyuki srsly filtering t b h as desu sempai
>>2279248
this is a study thread, you're looking for the beginner thread.
>>2279337
Good, maybe you'll stop using it you meme spouting autist.
>>2277237
I disagree with the other anons. First and foremost it shouldn't be about details, it should be about fundamentals.
I think the main flaw in your image is the head shape and structure. The girl in the photo has more pronounced cheek bones, and a broader chin than what you gave her.
It feels like you are leaning towards giving your heads a more feminine, softer and rounder head shape than what they actually have.
>>2279332
The chest seems to be too dark. And the edges are too hard
>>2256185
I think I'm still symbol drawing, especially in the eyes. Then again, faces are always roughest for me because I come from a godawful animu-copying background, so this is an uphill as fuck battle.
>>2279829
i think you got the shape of the face down pretty well. the features are the problem though. try to really focus on copying what you're seeing. if it worked in anime drawings, it can also work when drawing naturalistic stuff.
>>2279873
Thanks for the feedback, anon, I appreciate it. Anything in particular that stands out to you in any of the features, or is it more just their general shapes?
>>2279829 here. Still working out those facial features, though putting down some values might me figure out the shapes a little better.
>>2280172
>thought
>might help
Jesus, me. Don't type like that.
>>2280172
yes, I can see the improvement!
1/2
>>2280644
fuck's sake
>>2280653
2/2
tell me I should keep drawing
I need validation
>>2280655
...
>>2252058
/ic/ in a nutshell everybody
>>2280677
>actually replying to a month-old shitpost
>start study; not 1:1 copy but looks presentable
>keep working to make it more accurate
>turns to shit
I'll just keep working on it tomorrow.
>>2278124
Oy, ya shite! That is focken beautiful. I hope you succeed in whatever you want to accomplish you cunt. I hope I'll become as good as you one day.
>>2252058
Telling it the way it is.
>>2254151
This started as a warmup so I could see what I needed to work on. I'm glad I had the patience to sit own and do it, because the first thing I learned was that nothing starts out good. As bad as it is now, it was worse when I laid out the basic mannequin.
Got to work on basic shadows and light, too. The legs were hard.
>>2262294
>>2262303
>>2251948
Gonna look at landscape/environment refs later.
>>2281597
Values are a bit too pronounced, and the face looks nothing like him. Good start though.
