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Beginner figure drawing questions:
I'm trying to understand construction better, and have been reading Hampton's book on figure drawing. I have some question:
1) How does the gesture drawing work? He emphasizes that this should not be trying to capture a likeness, but rather be an exercise in moving the eye. But then I end up erasing like half of it then when I actually do attempt to draw a likeness.
2) I'm kind of stuck on what to do after I get the basic shapes down, and I start reverting back to just drawing contour lines. Any tips to avoid this?
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>>2294160
Show us some of your work for context
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>>2294160
>>2294163
These are some copies of images from the book. Next are some from my trying to draw from one of those timed figure drawing things.
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Last thread: >>2288620

Nobody wants to open a new thread Edition.

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others!

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If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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Also: OP fucked up the thread Edition.
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Some fanart.
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on first glance i thought she was holding a dick. cleaner lines would be nice and her dick holding hand needs a bit of love (looks kinda off).

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Hello /ic/
Im going to be selling all my belongings and moving to Japan to work as an animator. I know all about the painfully long work loads. I know all about the shit pay. I know about how Japanese treat gaijin and all that jazz. I dont care.None of that matters to me right now. What really matters is that I want to be apart of something that actually matters in the animation world. I want to be apart of teams that make things that are revered by fans all across the world. I want to make things that actually MATTER. And I want to work on interesting projects other than...
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>>2289511
>anime
>mattering

Jesus fuck, before your trip go find a Rothko and sit in front of it for a half hour.
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>>2289516
Anime does matter. A hell of a lot more than anything an american cartoonist makes. There are still fans for old anime that aired back in the 80s and some of them were marvels of animation even top art colleges showcase to their students.
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>>2289511
Take a chill pill and think rationally man. Don't just move to Japan then find work, instead get in contact with small (or large, your choice) animation studios first before moving countries.
Also, if you're going to attempt to be an anime animator, be prepared to go to other Asian countries instead (Outsourced work etc.)

take things one step at a time, and remember that in the end,
>It all returns to nothing

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Is Art school worth it?
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>>2282264
If you go to a top tier school and don't take a lot of debt, yes. (This is a bit different for artcenters concept art program). If you're not good enough to go to a good school on scholarship, then you aren't good enough to get work outside of it.
Obviously you can teach yourself technical skill at home, but art school teaches you how to formulate and execute ideas. Also the connections you make in art school are very very important.
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art hasn't been worth it since the time of the ninja turtles ended
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>>2282271
Non Americanfag here, do good art schools even offer scholarships? I've never heard of places like Art Center offering scholarships.

What /ic/ thinks of Robert Liberace?

He is great at painting and drawing, and very good at sculpture.

I think he might end up becoming one of the greats of our age.
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>>2296166
>I think he might end up becoming one of the greats of
he's just another in a long line of human-photocopiers
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>>2296166

>I think he might end up becoming one of the greats of our age.

naw man, he just does boring figures he doesn't have anything to say. At the end of the day technicality is just a tool for communication, it's not the actual thing to achieve.
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>>2296166
One of the best draftsmen around. His painting is rather uninspired and weak imo, just muddy mushy messes. His sculpture is okay but nothing special.

I don't see why he would be considered one of the greats though. Nothing he's doing is outstanding enough to make him go down in history, and he brings nothing new to the table. Plus his real strength lies in his initial studies and his drawings. He has no finished work of any real value.

How can they be improved.
the task was to abstrat a tool. I picked a
screw driver. Teacher hasent sayed anything jet.
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They are images of the abstraction proces
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>>2295981
What the hell is this ? Is this some stupid art school teacher not knowing shit`?
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This would be the final composition.
can you sens a screw driver?
top image is the tip of a screwdriver.
mid image is the rotation and the soket of a screw
last image is a set of screws driled

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Is it possible to draw something that truly does not exist?

something with zero ties to our world, that borrows nothing from this reality?
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>>2295692
wtf are you on holy fuck, quit drugs bud.
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No. Even the randomness is influenced by previous images archived in the brain. Is you put a baby trying to draw, the only gonna make what he has seen so far, if you put a fetus trying to draw, he didn't draw anything, because he knows nothing, but if you put a blind man to try to draw, he can do it himself, and his drawings will be guided by perceptions it receives from the other direction (basically touch and sound)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1IY6plQKGI
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>>2295692
Yo, man, like, whoa

I don't think it's possible to draw something that's literally imperceptible to humans.
If you want, you could try to draw the 'strings' from string theory. iirc, strings are essentially 'rolled-up' dimensions that make no sense and essentially can't be explained visually.

Anything you try to draw, no matter how simplistic, or complex, or abstract, can always be related to something that exists.
While the picture you have posted here probably...
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what does /ic/ think about hyperrealism?
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>>2294976
They're just human photocopiers. There is some degree of skill, but not nearly as much as the plebs in that comment section think.

The finished product has no more artistic value than the photo they copied, sometimes it has even less.
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It's craft, not art.
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It's technically impressive but pretty boring a lot of the time. That said this picture of a crashing wave is certainly more appealing than a lot of the hyperrealism paintings I'd seen that were still lifes of household objects.

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Sup /ic/. Gonna dump some paintings, starting with my most recent works. Let me know what you think.
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>>2292356
>>2292357
is there any more?

those two are pretty dead. working from photographs and imagination sucks all the life out of painting. You aren't painting light like you should be. The images are piercing straight through the layers of light that would naturally be in front of what you are viewing. Gives everything a really dead look. Look at the impressionists and post-impressionists to get a better idea of what I mean.
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>>2292356
They're pretty nice, you're better than me at rendering things out. However even I can see that your perspective is fucked, you really need to work on that.

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Beginner Thread

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises. Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up.

Do not forget to resize and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.

→ → → → Before asking "what should I read/view/study/learn," consult the sticky: >>1579290 → → → → →

Questions go in the QUESTION THREAD
This is for posting...
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First for gains goblins
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trying out odd styles
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>>2292271
most of them look fine for beginner level but the one on the right - you really need to work on the proportions. Good work!

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How does /ic/ rate this progress
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>>2289429
icepick chin/10
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>>2289429
Sycra plz go
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>>2289429
can't capture likeness so he samefaces/10

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Are Cintiqs worth the price compared to other tablets on the market?

What is a better alternative?
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>>2289262
unless you plan on doing a ton of finished digital linework, you are fine just getting an intuos not a cintiq
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>>2289266
I have an Intuos right now, but I'm looking for something that I can draw on digitally without having to look up at the screen.
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>>2289278

Then get a cintiq if you insist on having a display with your tablet.

The alternative is a Huion for cheaper. Just know that if you get it you're rolling the dice on software headaches.

So, would you recommend this before, or after keys, and why?
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I would not recommend it at all
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>>2295181
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>>2295181
>>2295184

Why, though?

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Just looking for some casual discussion/thoughts on my work. Any critique/weak points/advice/thoughts in general I'd love to hear, gental-brutal, doesn't matter. This is my first time actually talking here rather than just lurking so I figure I might as well post my own work.

Very nice to meet you all~!


Level: Ultra Noob Medium:SAI/VisTablet
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first off,
actually draw a picture.
that'd be greaaaaat.
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imo it's bordering between kinda interesting and generic edgy instagram-tier shit.

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Is using a model like pic related considered a crutch?
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>>2295117
For learning or practice or whatever? No. If you can't draw a person without a model? Yes.
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What this dude says >>2295121
Mannequins can be pretty useful to for figuring out a pose,lighting ref, and junk.
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Please don't tell me you are thinking about buying that, OP.

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