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what exercises do you do to learn clothing?

i feel like i know the theory in terms of single pieces of cloth and the varieties of folds, but i just get overwhelmed when it comes to adding clothing to a figure
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eh, practice drawing drapery from life? look at a curtain and draw it, look at your jeans and draw it, wake up in the morning but don't make your bed and draw your sheets...

check out the still life thread. drapery is also a popular still life subject and you use the same principles as drawing still life
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>>2385439
Well from experience you gotta have a sense of gravity to make the curves and you have to have prior knowledge in the materials that made up the cloth.

Also >>2385554
gets it.

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This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make stylized work in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun!

>Fresh...
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>>2384368
Thanks, I think I kind of have a grasp, I would have tried to implement it but as nose bro pointed out the hands did not connect so I had to scrap it in order to make a pose that actually fit the hands.

>>2384184
Oh well, that is too bad I find it more appealing this way
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>>2385358
someone remake this thread with a picture that isn't eye cancer.

>>2385363
why do you post

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Before you even open up a loomis book you should practice still lifes.

The meme spam on here can be very harmful to new artists.

Loomis expects a decent understanding of the fundamentals before you start copying from his books.

Still lifes are the best way to get better at the fundamentals. My drawings all felt flat before I started doing still lifes. Pic related.

This is after just 3 days of still lifes.
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>>2385198
This is before the still lifes
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Still needs practice (obviously), but I'm glad to see it's helping.
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How about just shapes and drawing from life?

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Can I get a drawing of Corey X Alphonse from /o/?
Their relationship is described in the Honda General on /o/ that is currently up near the bottom
They're two shitposting best friends in the same University who shit post /o/
Maybe work their cars into the scene
Corey drives a white Honda Prelude SH
Alphonse drives a FWD Ford
Thank you!
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Alphonse is a black guy
Corey is white, most likely brown hair
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>>2385523

this isn't a request board; what are you paying?
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>>2385528
Love
I wish we had a request board

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Yo /ic/

how do you hold your pen/pencil/whatever? Pics pls

Because I really can't help but wonder something. i mean shit i wonder a lotta things but yanno

Could the way I've been holding it since as a child be affecting my drawing? Pic related. Sorry it's a little harder to tell the difference, but to me, it is a huge difference.

Left pic which is the "correct" way that I never learnt is pretty much holding it between your thumb and index. It feels really stiff to me and awful and all.
Right is holding it between my middle...
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>>2384498
another one for ref
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>>2384498
I actually hold it that way aswell, I've been told by people that its how you would hold a calligraphy brush.
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Either normal tripod grip or holding the pencil on its side. I tried the Jeff Watts way but found it way too awkward, couldn't even draw a straight line like this.

>>2384508
A calligrapher's grip is more like OP's left pic, but with the pen more upward, resting on the finger instead of the hand itself.

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>not owning three different editions of this great book

Its like you don't even want to learn anon...

Here, for you anon.

https://neoalchemist.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/edwards-the-new-drawing-on-the-right-side-of-the-brain-viny.pdf
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>>2382700
>reading memeside of the brain past 1st chapter
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This >>2382705
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>>2382705
>recommended on the first page of the sticky
>teaches what the symbol system is and why it hinders art
>gives you methods and strategies for controlling and rising above symbol drawing
>helps you learn to "see" things in shapes and values which makes it easier to draw.

>calls it a meme...

riiiight anon.... sure its a meme.
Perhaps it's...
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Any advice when it comes to drawing lips/nose/eyes? I was able to draw an eye pretty well, but I went to draw a different eye from reference and it looked flatter than hell.

The same issue arises when drawing noses/lips. How can I make them look like proper 3D forms without shading? If I draw them they look like flat ugly outlines. How much help will drawing less lines do?
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>>2384974
sounds like you're symbol drawing. how good is your ability to draw basic 3d shapes in perspective (cylinder, sphere, cube, cone)?

if you can draw these basic forms, you can use that knowledge to draw more complex forms like noses, lips, and eyes.
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>>2384977

But I'm not, I can draw 3D just fine.

I just don't know why these aren't coming out right.
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>>2384974

you are a fucking idiot op. you can't draw in 3d at all. what you can do is plot some boxes in perspective.

> looked flatter than hell.
> How can I make them look like proper 3D forms without shading?

what a fucking idiot.

Is buying a used tablet any good?
I'm getting an intuos pro m, and I've got the chance to buy it half the normal price which is a significant differance.
On the other I wonder if it won't be used up or what not. I have yet to ask how long did the previous user have it.
While on the other hand I just feel uneasy, as if being denied untoched, virgin device.
What would You suggest?
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Wacom tablet are general quality and can be bought used, but look that you get the pen with extra exchangeable nibs (the thin tip of the pen), since they are rather expensive (up to 15$ for 5 little pieces of worthless plastic), that the surface of the tablet is not worn out too much and if the usb cable is directly connected to the tablet (not interchangeable like Intuos 3) , check for its condition. Also you should rather ask this in the question thread, while you get probaly more answers with this thread, it can be deleted within hours, since tablet threads are semibanned.
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You can use weedwhacker wire as pen nibs theres a vid on youtube about it
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>>2384819
get a huion. dirt cheap for what you get, and as long as you're careful with the usb port it'll last you a while.

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So I've seen this question asked here plenty of times but is it? I'm just out of hs and I'd appreciate knowing the pros and cons
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So my personal opinion is that between attending art collage and self teaching, self teaching is definitely better if you are smart about it.
Between self teaching and attending a good atelier program, atelier programs win out by a long shot.
The Atelier programs I can recommend are The Florence Academy of Art, Angel Academy, Swedish Academy of Realistic Art and The Repin Academy. I attend one of these and have frequent contact with students at the others, they all have have good instructors and produce highly skilled students. If you want to learn how to properly draw...
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>>2384726

what about the people who wants to teach art? they really need a college degree?
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>>2384678
Art college is worth it if you won't destroy your life with debt

But they won't necessarily teach you techniques
I went to one in London and it was the best time of my life I loved it

I studied sculpture but if I could go back in time I'd do illustration.

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Dip pen thread.
I've been wanting to start with dip pens and I've heard a lot of conflicting information about how to get the coating that the nibs come with off. I was told burning them with a candle is the most effective way, but other sources have strongly advised against it because it can warp the metal.
Also, how important is the brand of ink you use? Which one do you prefer?
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burning is ok, if the metal turns red, you've gone too far. A couple passes through a lighter will do.

I've only ever used speedball stuff when I messed with nibs. I plan to get back into traditional line work soon, so I'll have to experiment.
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I use deleter paper so I use their ink too.
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>Brause music nib not staying in any nib holder, even the ones from the same brand
What am I doing wrong here

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Im not much of a drawer but i had an idea for a tattoo and i just need the pic cleaned up, ill pay a little bit if someone can do a good job
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>>2384660
good job op
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>>2384660
Requests are against the rules anon. But I will steal your idea.
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>>2384660
here you go OP. That'll be $7.

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I'm interested to hear about your experiences with art workshops or other online services offering art education be it CGMA, conceptart.org LEVEL UP!, pencilkings.com oor whatever else you used and how it helped you if it did.
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>>2383007
workshops are garbage, take the actual classes or a mentorship on patreon.
CGMA, schoolism, some of the learnsquared shit is good. If you're gonna do a mentorship make sure the teacher is worthwhile, like james paick, john park.
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>>2383007
So there is only 1 person here who used any of them?
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>>2383007
Take with a grain of salt or outright ignore all career/industry advice. It will become dated by the time you can apply it, if not already.

Anything that strengthens foundation, sure.

How to use a program, sure. (but if you cant figure out 80 percent of this on your own you are helpless)

But at some point this stuff serves as more entertainment than education.

taste + discipline will produce decent to good results.

Ignore me , i'm just a passing-by faggot . I have a tumblr for over 4 years now and i've seen the art community and shit and i was planning to post my art more often and actually make a serious blog with my art on it after i go to college but i've seen some people using also wordpress and other blogging platforms. So , my question is , why do you use tumblr/wordpress/blogger whatever you are using ? And your experiences on other platforms and such ? I want to make a wordpress website for my portofolio and webcomic but i'm sceptic a little. Is it flexible...
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i heard you can do alot more html editing on wordpress
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>>2382984
People use Tumblr for exposure. There's a lot of people on there and you can get your work seen by a lot of people. It's also simple and easy to use.

Wordpress I've seen mostly by people running their own site, and it has a good degree of customization as far as I'm aware. There's even a plugin for comics called Comicpress, IIRC.
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>>2383019
what do you use ?

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http://stefanburnett.com/

What do you think of MC Ride's painting?
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Actually not that bad. Was expecting basquiat tier garbage, got pretty decent tier value studies
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looks like everything has the plastic wrap photoshop filter on it.
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needs to push them values, but overall p good

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Hey guys, about a week ago I and my partner launched our web comic "Death, Acceptance and Everything In-Between". I know it seems like shameless promotion (and to some extent it is) but we're really aiming to find the most raw criticism that we could get. I'd really appreciate it if you took the time to read it and give some feedback about whatever you think needs improved.

Here's the link to it: http://tapastic.com/episode/274644

>inb4 furry shit
>general art beg thread
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there's a comic thread. why not pos it there?
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>>2384667
it looks nice
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>>2384667
you'll probably receive more enthusiastic answers on the "how's your webcomic" general threads on /co/

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