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don't forget,
u can fly


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I just wanna dance the night away~
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>>2659505
Found the viral marketers. Both SM and Sica marketers, this time. It's a fucking plague.
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>>2659586
looks like ur the only non-marketer here.....
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>>2659542
this songs ben in my head all day. i like it
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>>2659643
Yeah, it's grown on me a lot. I find myself singing it in my head
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>>2659643
>>2659669
the "two" viral marketers at it once again. the song sucks
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i had a dream that jessica was my best friend ;_;
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i can't wait for seohyun's film~
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seohyun and sica are both in china

wonder if they're going to meet up
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>>2659812
trying to make it seem like sica wasn't victimized, marketer?
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>>2659819
Oh wow, what a stunning blue dress. This really is The Girl from my dreams
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>>2659939
>>2659819
>>2659808
found the "two" viral marketers
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>>2659943
you'll be late for school
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>>2659948
how's your viral marketer sweatshop doing?
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>>2659854
Oh look someone has posted my waifu
What a pleasing sight
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>>2660000
whaa that's yoongie in that picture and that's sooyoung in your picture!!!!!!!
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yoongie-ya.....
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>>2660000
this is one of the most pleasing things i've ever seen in my entire life
just looking at this makes me realize the fact that sooyoung had nothing to do with any of the manufactured scandal around sica abandoning the group
sooyoung is love
sooyoung is life
sooyoung is fertility
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>lily posted pretty yoongpictures again
as expected of lily!!!!!!!!!!
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>>2660033
The sun shines brightly on Yoona-ya~
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>>2660039
Her smile is infectious~
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>>2660042
Kissy kissy lips~
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>>2660049
She looks great in white
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>>2660063
Gosh, her face is so perfect~
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I love her teeth!
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>>2660118
silly~
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>>2659808
How old does the pretty lady turn?
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>>2660153
it's not polite to ask~~
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lol, that seems about right :)
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why does fany throw tantrums so easily is it because he's stupid?
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There she is~
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>>2660416
Holy fuck! She's so unbelievably beautiful. A literal goddess.
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>>2660331
found the viral marketer
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>Jessica on the process of being removed from SNSD: It was a choice that had to have been made. Our interests were different. We would have had to gone our separate ways some time either way, I think my time to leave had just come sooner. If there are misunderstandings, they are to be resolved one day. Sincerity will prevail and as time passes wouldn't it be acknowledged?

Guess that settles it. The Jessica fans angry at the other 8 were wrong all this time. I wonder how that feels.
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>>2660531
inb4 the angry sica spammer twists this against snsd somehow
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>>2660531
>posting fake translations
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>>2660531
>it was a choice that had to have been made. Our interests were different
Jessica's interest being staying in SNSD and going to tokyo dome, SNSD's interest being greedy backstabbers that wanted a piece of Jessica's business/for her to stop her business because they thought it would hurt their advertising revenue. It's just a nice way of saying she was backstabbed as will become clear with the next sentence
>We would have had to gone our separate ways some time either way, I think my time to leave had just come sooner
Obviously she's talking about the toxic atmosphere in the group and hinting at how much of a dick move it was for the other 8 to kick her RIGHT BEFORE tokyo dome and in the middle of a single being released. Again, she's just saying it nicely
>If there are misunderstandings, they are to be resolved one day.
Meaning she just wants to be left alone by SM and the girls fucking with her even after they kicked her, I.E. launching Tiffany's solo on a 5 day notice just because they were keeping it in the wings until Jessica announced hers and paying shills to type negative comments and also spreading the lie that she "left" rather than got kicked
>Sincerity will prevail and as time passes wouldn't it be acknowledged?
This badly written line is just her saying the truth will come out. I'm sure she's aware of idiots like you who go around saying she "left" for no other reason than they were paid to even years after the incident and the proof of her being kicked

There's nothing in what you wrote that settles or says anything that wasn't already known. If by "that settles it" you mean you'll stop lying about her leaving, than by all means start telling the truth but to act like this takes the blame away from those that would have her kicked is some fanciful reading indeed
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>>2660574
>It's just a nice way of saying she was
>Again, she's just saying it nicely
>Meaning she just wants to be left alone
Nice projection.
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>>2660574
>>2660563
oh, look
it's the "two" viral marketers again!
hi big fella, how you doing?
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>>2660577
Show me the line where you think she's saying "It's okay the other 8 kicked me right before tokyo dome and in the middle of preparations for a new single no big deal" because to me, and everyone else who isn't paid by the post, she's simply acknowledging what happened and putting it in the past and not absolving them for what they did or even saying it was okay

>>2660577
>>2660579
>two posts

>>2660531
>>2660534
>two posts

just pointing that out
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>>2660580
I can use the "show me the line" on any one of your sentences though. You're seeing things that aren't there.

How do you get "SNSD are greedy backstabbers" from "it was a choice that had to have been made"?
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>>2660581
I explain that in my post it's literally the first line as an explanation for "our interests were different" saying their interests were to kick her out of greed and backstab her. Of course you'd know that if you read my post but it's not in your interest to read posts, you don't care you're paid to spread misinformation which is why you intentionally reference the wrong line
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>>2660586
>saying their interests were to kick her out of greed and backstab her
Where do you see that?
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>>2660587
Because that's what happened, or do you not remember? It's all very funny to ask stupid questions because it takes attention away from this
>Show me the line where you think she's saying "It's okay the other 8 kicked me right before tokyo dome and in the middle of preparations for a new single no big deal" because to me, and everyone else who isn't paid by the post, she's simply acknowledging what happened and putting it in the past and not absolving them for what they did or even saying it was okay
which you're so desperately trying to avoid. you know dodging questions and asking stupid ones while misquoting lines and not reading other peoples posts is the behavior of a liar. And in your case, one that is paid to lie
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>>2660589
>Because that's what happened, or do you not remember?
So it didn't come from Jessica, it came from your view of the situation because she clearly never said that.

>which you're so desperately trying to avoid
>not absolving them for what they did or even saying it was okay

>It was a choice that had to have been made. Our interests were different. I think my time to leave had just come sooner."
It doesn't get any clearer than that. It was inevitable and she accepts that it had to happen.
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>>2660593
The fact that they are backstabbers is self-evident because, you know, they backstabbed her and kicked her from the group


>which you're so desperately trying to avoid
>not absolving them for what they did or even saying it was okay
this little chunk answers nothing.
>Guess that settles it. The Jessica fans angry at the other 8 were wrong all this time. I wonder how that feels.
Nowhere in what you wrote does jessica mention anything that could remotely lead to this conclusion of yours. I asked how you got there, you still wont answer because the answer is you made it up

>It was a choice that had to have been made. Our interests were different. I think my time to leave had just come sooner."

>It doesn't get any clearer than that. It was inevitable and she accepts that it had to happen.
Convenient how you leave this phrase out
> I think my time to leave had just come sooner
What could she mean by that? Could she be talking about how she was kicked IN THE MIDDLE of preparations for a single and right before a huge concert in tokyo dome? I'm pretty sure that's what she had in mind. It coming sooner or later is not her saying it had to happen, it's her saying the situation was bad that she had to leave and the line afterwards, as I pointed out in my first post which you're having trouble reading, puts it plainly that they kicked her during the single and before the concert because they were backstabbers who didn't care about the single, who didn't care about the concert. they only cared about getting Jessica out for money and resentment
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>>2660601
>The fact that they are backstabbers is self-evident
But she never said it.

>Convenient how you leave this phrase out
I didn't, it's right there.

>Could she be talking about how she was kicked IN THE MIDDLE of preparations for a single and right before a huge concert in tokyo dome?
Obviously. I never denied that.

>It coming sooner or later is not her saying it had to happen
She literally did:
>It was a choice that had to have been made. Our interests were different.
>had to have been made


>only cared about getting Jessica out for money and resentment
Again, she never said that so either show me the line where she did or stop projecting your thoughts onto her.
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>>2660604
She never said she was kicked? Why would she, it's been 2 years since it happened it's obvious she's kicked. Are you suggesting she's still in SNSD? This is you just talking nonsense to further avoid answering the question I posed of how you interpreted what you wrote as her "settling" anything when she merely went over the facts in a polite way

>Convenient how you leave this phrase out
I didn't, it's right there.
After I provided and if you had included it, it would change the entire meaning of your conclusion
>It doesn't get any clearer than that. It was inevitable and she accepts that it had to happen.
Because while she acknowledges the toxic environment created by the other girls, the line you left out about it coming sooner makes it take on a completely different meaning. but you knew that, that's why you left it out on purpose

>It coming sooner or later is not her saying it had to happen
>She literally did:
>It was a choice that had to have been made. >Our interests were different.
>had to have been made
Once again leaving out the timeframe of it "coming sooner", that is, it coming in the middle of single preparations and right before the tokyo dome concert. Boy, you sure are good at leaving out key phrases. It's not like you're paid to spread misinformation or anything! you must just be forgetful

>only cared about getting Jessica out for money and resentment
>Again, she never said that so either show me the line where she did or stop projecting your thoughts onto her.
She didn't say why because the why is already known. Especially to you, which is why you're doing everything you can to muddy the waters and spread convenient lies
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>>2660610
>She never said she was kicked?
Not what I said.

>it coming in the middle of single preparations and right before the tokyo dome concert
This doesn't contradict anything of what I said. Why do you keep bringing this up when I agreed with it? An inevitable decision that happens sooner doesn't change its inevitability.

>She didn't say why
But she did:
>Our interests were different.
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She was kicked by SNSD members, for not putting in full effort.
She wasnt removed from SNSD by SM, nor did she decided to stop working with them.
Contracts are made so people cant stop working when the fuck they want.


This was what happened. Jessica said it, SM didnt denied it.
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>>2660614
>Not what I said.
You're asking why she didn't mention public knowledge. This whole line of questions was you acting stupid to avoid questions and add confusion

>This doesn't contradict anything of what I said. Why do you keep bringing this up when I agreed with it? An inevitable decision that happens sooner doesn't change its inevitability.
This was never a question about inevitability. This was about you acting as if her saying in so many words, that the situation was such that she would have to leave AT SOME POINT means that she's absolving the other 8 for kicking her in the middle of a single and before tokyo dome. Once again you're leaving key points out

>But she did
>Our interests were different.
First off you ignored what I said again
>The why is well known
Her saying their "interests were different" was, like most of the points you bring up, dealt with in my very first post. Her interest was to finish promoting the single and perform at tokyo dome, their interest was to fuck her over for money

>>2660615
>She was kicked by SNSD members, for not putting in full effort.
Wrong. There is zero evidence for that statement that's pure fanfiction
>She wasnt removed from SNSD by SM, nor did she decided to stop working with them.
She was kicked by the girls. We've known this practically from day one
>Contracts are made so people cant stop working when the fuck they want.
Also a no shit statement

>This was what happened. Jessica said it, SM didnt denied it.
She never said she quit because she wasn't putting in effort you're making that up
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>>2660622
>You're asking why she didn't mention public knowledge
Not at all.

>This was about you acting as if her saying in so many words, means that she's absolving the other 8
She did:
>We would have had to gone our separate ways some time either way, I think my time to leave had just come sooner. If there are misunderstandings, they are to be resolved one day.

>their interest was to [more projection]
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i don't know why you're analysing that statement so much it doesn't say anything, it's just a nothing statement with no new information
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>>2660630
Her weibo post that day said she was kicked for no justifiable reason. Now she's saying it had to happen eventually because her interests were different from the group's.
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>>2660633
ie. she has gotten over it to some extent
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>>2660629
>Not at all.
Yes you are re-read the thread

>She did
this line
>We would have had to gone our separate ways some time either way, I think my time to leave had just come sooner. If there are misunderstandings, they are to be resolved one day.
In no way says she absolves them from kicking her. It says she accepts what happened as unchangeable, not justifiable. How you get that is pure imagination


>their interest was to [more projection]
Of course, because 8 people who are supposedly sisters will just kick a 'sister' of theirs in the middle of single promotions right before a big concert for no reason. Yeah, that makes sense /sarcasm

>>2660630
That's exactly what I said in my first post, but the viral marketer who posted is acting like it somehow changed everything about the situation when it so clearly did not. That's viral marketers for you, though
>>2660633
There is no justifiable reason, and her saying her leaving would have happened eventually in no way says that she's cool with being randomly kicked in the middle of promotions
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is jessi going to do music shows.....
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>>2660634
So how is her contradicting herself not new information?
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>>2660642
>coming to terms with something you cannot change that happened 2 years ago
>contradicting herself
Well marketed
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>>2660645
>no justifiable reason
>our interests are different
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>>2660648
>wording what she said on impulse 2 years ago nicely in an interview 2 years later
>contradiction

It's obvious anyway the "other interests" of the girls weren't justifiable because those other interests were mainly greed. There is no contradiction in saying the petty selfish interests of the other 8 were unjustifiable. If you can justify kicking a member, a supposed sister from the group and ruining your own and your group's reputation be my guest but I can't do it
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>>2660654
>because those other interests were [projection]
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>Projection
Marketing at it's finest. Of course you would just kick a member in the middle of promotions right before a concert for a good reason. Yeah, I can see that. Ruining your group's reputation that was built on sisterhood and the number 9 just like that for something that wasn't self-interest, greed and malice. Totally /sarcasm
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>>2660662
Your greed theory doesn't make sense. The member that started her own business completely separate from the group and SM is less greedy than the ones that stayed in the group with SM taking some percentage of their earnings?
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>>2660668
Do you know the money distribution of the group for individual activities? Does yoona give a cut of her chinese acting roles to the group? Does sunny give some of her radio money to the group? I don't think so. They also thought it would interfere with them getting advertisement deals or it would impede them in that way somehow

I would also like to point out it wasn't separate from SM and SNSD SM was even halfway endorsing it before the girls had her kicked

But you know all of this and are just desperate to try and shirk as much guilt from SNSD as you possibly can
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>>2660671
>Do you know the money distribution of the group for individual activities?
Do you know how to read? I never said anything about that, I only said that SM takes some percentage of their earnings.
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>>2660673
Seems to be your whole point in trying to discredit what you term my "greed theory" when it's not a theory, it's what's actually happened and the fact 2 years later we're still going over this just goes to show how resistant misinformation
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>>2660674
>my argument is something I never said
Are you for real? You're arguing against a point I never made.
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>>2660676
Restate your point right now then
>Your greed theory doesn't make sense.
>he member that started her own business completely separate from the group and SM is less greedy than the ones that stayed in the group with SM taking some percentage of their earnings?
Who is making more money doesn't affect the 8 girls kicking Jessica because they thought she was hurting their ability to make money. The only way you think what you said disproves some kind of "greed theory" is if you think money from solo activities is split between the group
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>>2660677
>they thought
Prove it.
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>>2660678
>not restating your question
more viral marketing tactics. if all you want to do is confuse people and dance around the issue go ahead, but if you wanted to try and make a point you've failed to do so and need to state clearly what you're trying to say
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>>2660681
The validity of my point rests on your knowledge of their thoughts.
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>>2660683
It's not thoughts I'm reading but the reports of what happened. I feel bad for you if after 2 years you don't even know what happened
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>>2660686
Mind posting one of these reports saying the 8 thought Jessica's business was going to hurt their ability to make money?
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>>2660689
did they practise crying particularly for this one though it seems kind of over the top :8
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>>2660690
From when, 17 months ago? 14 months ago? How deep into twitter should I dig to provide you with common knowledge? Lets skip that for a second and just use our heads. For what other possible reason would you kick jessica from the group, in the middle of promotions, right before tokyo dome and while she was on her way to china if not for terrible personal reasons. We already know SM didn't have her kicked and didn't want to see her go. The whole criteria for her being kicked came from the girls. We know their parents went into SM offices and complained about Jessica's business, we know they've gotten lazy and pompous as shown in their documentaries and how they walk around in expensive clothes. So you tell me what other reason they could possibly have had for kicking her knowing all this
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taeyeon is completely hiding at the back the whole time because she can't stop laughing and knows she won't be able to make herself cry then she hides her face in her hands trying really hard to shed a tear for the camera
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>>2660694
If you can't find it, it means you can't prove what they thought which makes my point a valid one and therefore leaves doubts in your greed theory, the basis of all your hate and vitriol.

If you do ever stumble across it, let me know.
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>>2660700
>Not answering my question because you can't
Just name one reason other than money, knowing all that you do. Name one, I'll wait

I also stated it's not their thoughts I'm reading, but what actually happened. I do wish you would have voiced these concerns when they happened instead of waiting 2 years to do it because Jessica released a song and you were thus reminded she exists

I would also like to add calling what happened a theory just because you don't know what happened or can't think only makes you look like a viral marketer
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i hope it was worth it for you because i didn't read any of this shit argument
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>>2660852
nobody cares about you
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>>2660852
>>2660854
stop talking to yourself you stupid cunt
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I could kick your dad's ass
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>>2660863
my dad died in the vietnam war you bastard
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>>2660863
you are the most insensitive prick i've ever seen on the internet
you win the asshole of the year award you piece of shit
you're a triple hitler
apologize to >>2660871 right the fuck now or i'm calling your mom and your middle school guidance counselor
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>>2660872
n-no its ok. im used to communists shitting and pissing on my dad's grave. both figuratively and literally
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>>2660871
Friendly reminder that military forces of the Republic of Korea committed numerous atrocities in Vietnam during their service there.
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>>2660872
>>2660873
enough samefagging start a blog
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>>2660876
>soulless asians committing atrocities
you don't say
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>>2660879
you must be mistaken koreans have seoul!! haha
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>>2660909
they can lick my soles haha XDDDDD
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asian men, specifically korean men, are ugly dirty slimeballs
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>>2660928
you shouldn't plagiarize the encyclopedia
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>>2660991
good picture
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>>2661001
good picture
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>>2661144
Yeah she's very cute
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do you think yoona ans seunggi did.....it.....
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>>2661236
Yes, I'm sure like any happy couple they went on a cute date to a fancy restaurant!
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>>2661248
no i meant something else.....that can't be undone.........
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>>2661250
Yes, they probably wrote romantic letters to each other in permanent marker! But don't worry, even if it can't be undone, if you make a mistake you can just cross it out. I'm sure they knew that.
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>>2661255
no you're thinking of the wrong thing.....it's more like tickling than writing..........
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>>2661259
Hehe, yeah, maybe they did go to a pet store and play with a puppy! I want to do that, too~
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i get this weird feeling that our yoona poster is very lewd by nature but keeps it perfectly secret
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>>2661236
they had SEX
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>>2661278
watch your language, this is a christian board
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>>2661284
God bless
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i bet yoongie likes sex :3
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>>2661290
Most people do. But that's none of our business!!!
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>>2661296
omo this post made me imagine..things......
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>>2661296
why did you attach such a sultry picture to this post! it gives all kinds of interesting mixed messages!
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>>2661298
Yes, I imagined the same thing: that Yoona will one day settle down with someone who she loves and who loves her, someone who will treat her right and make her happy. She deserves all the happiness in the world!
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>>2661306
anon...
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yoongie patiently waiting until she can have loving sex again~
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sex with yoona
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>>2661333
>>2661334
Let's be respectful~
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http://jpopsuki.eu/torrents.php?id=202553&torrentid=282083
http://jpopsuki.eu/torrents.php?id=202553&torrentid=282083
http://jpopsuki.eu/torrents.php?id=202553&torrentid=282083
http://jpopsuki.eu/torrents.php?id=202553&torrentid=282083
http://jpopsuki.eu/torrents.php?id=202553&torrentid=282083

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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darn this stubborn belly fat...
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>>2661368
iktf...
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p h a n t a s i a ~
omg i'm excited to watch
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>>2661368
you have to eat like yoongie if you want to lose it~
one spoonful of rice with a single piece of kimchi per day~
also make sure you practice all of your dances for 16 hours every day~
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>>2661420
wow i want her to slowly suck my 4.5in weiner
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Who's this girl in the cool shades
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I-is she looking at me?
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Wow, so cool~
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http://fy-girls-generation.tumblr.com/post/144592066282


X ______________ X
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O.O
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*faints*
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what happened to all my cumfriends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzb6FaHbpdM
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I think I had a Yoongie dream but now I can't remember it... I hate when this happens :(
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seohyun in lace
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Will I ever see Yoona again? She seems so far away...
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I mean, I know I'll see her when I die and go to her farm, but that's probably a long, long time from now.
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I have to keep reminding myself that I'm not special. There are literally billions of people who love Yoona. Who am I to deserve special treatment? I'm lucky enough to have seen her once! Think of all the people who have never seen her at all
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But still, the pangs are getting worse.... And my spirit is not as strong as hers
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If I already know what is inevitably at the end of this path, why does my heart still seek to travel it?
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>>2660531
All I want to know is who gave her the boot? Was it the girls or was it SM? I want to know if the girls I've loved for years are all actually cunts and fake. I get that the whole forever 9 thing was meme but I'm going to be seriously upset if we find out that the beautiful cheery girls we see on camera are complete fakes who only care about money and fame.
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how much do you think innisfree has paid yoona in total
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>>2661797
It's possible we may never know for sure. It's possible no one will tell us. So we have to find our own meaning.

It's true, we don't know much about what the girls are like off-camera. Some might choose to believe they're different people entirely. Maybe they are fake. After all, a lot of kpop is artificial, sterilized, produced for mass consumption. There are lots of cosmetics, from the surgeries, to the variety show scripts, to the identity that the agency crafts for each group. And we rarely get to peek behind the curtain.

But at the same time, it's hard to be someone you're not for 10 years. It's exhausting to force a totally different personality all the time. Even the most dedicated method-actors, who live and breath totally in-character for a year or two, are glad once the last scene is shot. And we're not talking about method-actors, but idols. Young people who sing and dance, and occasionally act, for entertainment. So it's hard to believe that everything we've seen is fake. Sure, it's not 100% genuine, either. They're told 'don't say this' and 'don't do that'. But there's too much media and information out there to say we don't have at least a glimpse into their real personalities. Especially now that we see some of their interactions through social media. For example, surely Tiffany and Taeyeon are good friends. Maybe the ship has been forced, but there's just so much out there to say that they're actually close to each other. I mean, they still live together.
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>>2661889
And it doesn't have to be a duality. Even if they're not the cheery girls we see on camera, that doesn't mean they're money-grubbing fame whores. In fact it's unrealistic to think so. People aren't angels or demons, they're people. They do some good things, have good character traits, but also make mistakes and have character flaws. I'm sure each of the 9 girls are like anyone else on earth in that respect. Just because the kpop industry glosses over the flaws and sanitizes the mistakes doesn't make them less human.

So when I say we have to find our own meaning, I guess what I'm saying is we have to choose to believe something based on what little we have. Some might believe the girls are fake, victims of a fake industry that produces fake people. Others might believe that we have seen glimpses into their real selves. And still others might believe that it's not one or the other, but somewhere in the middle. But in the end it's up to you to decide what you believe. So many in this fandom are fighting over what's the truth when the truth is we don't know, and we might never know. But it's no use waiting for answers when none may come. That's why I think we have to find our own meaning and live with it.
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>>2661797
what do you mean find out? we already found out they're greedy backstabbing bitches
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>>2661889
>It's possible we may never know for sure. It's possible no one will tell us. So we have to find our own meaning.
the facts are all already available. SM didn't kick her, the girls did

we see their personality all the time, too. especially when their true colors come out and they kick a member for money. they're not acting 24/7 for 10 years, they only have to act when they're on camera which is not that much time. it's the same as if they had to play a character on a TV show
>And it doesn't have to be a duality. Even if they're not the cheery girls we see on camera, that doesn't mean they're money-grubbing fame whores. In fact it's unrealistic to think so
it's not unrealistic to think so because that's exactly how they behaved by kicking jessica for money. so no, it's 100% realistic to call them that based on their actions
>People aren't angels or demons, they're people. They do some good things, have good character traits, but also make mistakes and have character flaws
kicking a member for money is a pretty big character flaw. unforgivably big, especially when your whole groups reputation was built around 9 sisters. to then come and remove one for no reason other than petty greed is about the worst thing you can do and trying to diminish that by saying "we all make mistakes" is pure marketing. no, we do not all backstab our friends
>So when I say we have to find our own meaning, I guess what I'm saying is we have to choose to believe something based on what little we have
you're pretending we don't already have all the information we need to know they kicked her for money. when you say "find our own meaning" you mean cover your eyes to the obvious facts and toe the line fed to everyone by SM's marketing team. it's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of seeing the clear evidence that's been available for 2 years now. there's no "believing" anything apart from believing the truth, or believing some lie you're trying to make up
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>>2661891
> So many in this fandom are fighting over what's the truth when the truth is we don't know, and we might never know. But it's no use waiting for answers when none may come
we already have the answers, we have the facts and everything we need. we've had it for a long time now. the only reason it would seem foggy to you is if you haven't read anything about what happened and don't know anything about it, or if you're an SM viral marketer paid to spread more lies just like that old lie that jessica "left" the group
>That's why I think we have to find our own meaning and live with it
after reading through all this PR nonsense, it's your strategy now is to pretend there isn't all the information out there already. in the beginning you disputed the facts about her leaving, but now, 2 years later when it's so clear that she never left you've dropped that angle and are now trying to act as if it's all relative and we don't know one way or the other

SM didn't kick jessica, the decision to kick came from the girls and the reason was for money
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>replying line-by-line
lol wow. care more
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>>2662064
lie more, you fucking shill
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>>2662067
>lie more
says the guy claiming to know everything with no proof
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>>2662071
>no proof
the proof has been available for at least a year. you either didn't bother to learn about it and are just now talking about it because jessica released a song and you remembered she exists, or you're an SM shill intentionally spreading misformation
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>>2662073
>the proof has been available for at least a year
and you call me the liar lol
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>>2662075
between SM's and jessica's statements it was clear she was kicked and with knowledge of contracts and forthcoming concerts and SM's existence as a for profit company we know the call to kick must have come from the girls. which means the 8 of them were cool with backstabbing their sister of more than a decade and ruining their group's reputation

but you can pretend all of that is unclear if it earns you a living
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>>2662077
huh, sounds like a load of assumptions and speculations, not proof.
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>>2662078
did you just fucking mansplain at me?
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>>2662078
it is proof when jessica and SM confirm it. but you're paid to post nonsense, not to know anything about what happened. in fact, being ignorant probably makes your job easier
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>>2662081
>proof when jessica and SM confirm it
oh but they never confirmed what you're claiming. and that makes you the liar.
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>>2662082
it confirmed jessica was kicked by the members. their parents complaining at the SM office about jessica's business confirms it was for money

here's 10 cents
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>>2662083
>their parents complaining at the SM office
there you go lying without proof again. isn't that a nasty habit you have
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>every single image in all of these threads these days is of yoona
>plain as fuck face
>has the body of a 14 year old boy
>boring personality
>acts like a retard
>a bunch of permavirgins do nothing but post the most beta shit about yoona all day after they finish posting some pictures of her and her skeletal physique

fuck this thread, if i wanted to look at pictures of yoona all day and read horribly cringe inducing shit id go to a yoona blog
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>>2662085
you expect me to believe some idiot who never read a single thing about the incident wrote 2 huge posts asking everyone to believe whatever they wanted just because? no, you're obviously a shill so of course anything I say you're going to say is wrong and never check yourself, just like you claimed she wasn't kicked for the longest time and now that it's clear she was, you've switched to the next thing. it never ends
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>>2662090
oh so no proof of that either. amazing
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>>2662092
must be easy to be paid to be stupid and lie and ask other people who know what they're talking about to dig through 8 months of tweets
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>>2662092
and wait did you just say either? again pretending SM and jessica's statements don't exist. that's the boldest lie you've done yet you must be gunning for a promotion
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>>2662096
tweets? now you're saying the parents tweeted about it? nah, im not buying it
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>>2662101
how's it feel to be paid to act stupid on an abandoned dead thread?
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>>2662105
idk how's it feel to get caught lying?
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>>2662108
shaking your head and going "nuh-uh" doesn't make what I said untrue, but you know that you're just in it for the 10 cents a post. here you go, buy yourself a coke
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>>2662109
so you can't prove your claims about the members and you can't prove your claims about their parents. so how exactly does that not make you a liar?
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>>2662111
>why aren't you spending an inordinate amount of work showing a paid shill something he already knows
I have better things to do, everyone who isn't paid by SM or a silly 15 year old chinese girl already knows what happened
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>>2662113
you're sure not doing a very good job dispelling this reputation you've developed recently as a liar. you know you can't just make up stuff and deflect when asked to prove it
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>>2662115
everything I've said is common knowledge and known to people who aren't paid to spread misinformation, your opinion is worth less than nothing considering you're still claiming she wasn't kicked even 18 months after the incident
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>>2662116
>common knowledge
no, i don't see it on wikipedia
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>>2662117
10 more cents for you
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>>2662118
good deflection but it doesn't save you from being a bold-faced liar. you still haven't proven anything
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>>2662120
I don't have to deflect your wikipedia joke post, it deflects itself by being absurd and confirming you for being a paid advertiser. calling me a liar despite everything I've said being true does more to discredit you than me but lets not pretend we both don't know your motives immediately after you wrote this >>2662064
it's clear you're just here to cause confusion and spread misinformation
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>>2662122
i haven't spread any information at all. in face i've been begging you for any information at all to support your claims.
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>>2662124
>I haven't spread any information
that's true, you're just here to stir shit
>begging for information
18 months is pretty late to start taking interest, but you're not someone looking for information. you already have it, that's why you're desperately trying to change the narrative
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>>2662126
how could i change the narrative if you agree im not spreading misinformation? you're contradicting yourself. (and that's not a good look for someone already confirmed to be a liar)
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>>2662129
>says not spreading INformation
>agree you're not spreading disinformation
there you go again earning those 10 cents
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>>2662130
gosh you can't stick to anything can you? get challenged once and you start deflecting
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>>2662132
you and I have both known from the start you're just here to try and muddy the waters and act like nothing happened and since it's just you and me in this dead thread, you just look ridiculous. the guy who posts this >>2662064
after copy pasting 2 posts is not someone who's looking for information and he certainly isn't someone to be taken seriously. he's just a paid advertiser trolling for his income
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>>2662136
you take a lot of words to say not a lot. and most of what you do say is just lies.
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>>2662141
here's 10 cents
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>>2662143
you can deflect in a hundred different ways and you'll still be lying until you prove your claims
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>>2662151
aww look, the guy who posts this >>2662064
wants to be taken seriously. here's your 10 cents for trolling and trying to waste my time
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>>2662155
all i've asked from the start is if you had any proof for your claims. time and time again you've failed to provide any. and that makes you a liar.
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>>2662157
from the start you made it clear your only interest was to cause trouble and spread misinformation and every post you've made since has confirmed that like when you pretended I said you weren't spreading misinformation when I said you weren't spreading information. it's things like that which you include in each of your posts that confirms your motives and outs you as the paid shill that you are
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>>2662159
well you made many claims today and haven't supported any of them so whatever information you think im spreading is only a result of your bold-faced lies
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>>2662163
>copy pastes 2 huge posts saying nothing except "believe anything that isn't the truth"
>posts >>2662064 when I point out each lie
>calls me a liar and tries to weasel around every point in every post since
the facts are there, you look like someone just trying to stir shit which is all you are
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>>2662164
and yet nowhere in that massive reply was there a shred of evidence. almost as if you're making everything up, hm?
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>>2662165
it should come as no surprise that I'm not taking you, a paid troll, seriously and I will not be wasting my time providing you with knowledge that is known to everyone that isn't paid to ignore it
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>>2662166
you've wasted three hours now, you're telling us you couldn't collect any proof whatsoever in that time?
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>>2662167
it would be a waste since you're paid to disagree with reality and spread misinformation. you have zero interest in proof you only care about confusing people and earning your pay check

keep in mind it's just you and me here, you're not fooling anyone
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>>2662170
if i had zero interest in proof i wouldn't be asking you for it for three hours. then again if you were interested in not being a nasty liar you would've shown some proof for your claims.
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>>2662172
your only concern is to shitpost and toe the SM marketing line. that's the only reason you would ask 18 months after she was kicked for proof that she was kicked when that is an established fact
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>>2662173
no, the only reason i ask is because you made a number of claims here >>2662056 and here >>2662057 but you didn't provide any proof at all, so i asked for proof. and then you just started deflecting so i kept asking. and that's about where we are still: you're still a liar who has no support for her lies
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>>2662175
your first post after your copypasted misinformation is this one >>2662064
expecting to be taken seriously after that is pretty funny
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>>2662176
no one's expecting you to take anything seriously. goodness, if you can't take a simple concept like the difference between truth and lies seriously, how could we ever trust you to take anything else seriously?
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>>2662177
you'll recall it's just you and me here, so when you try to ignore your first post and act like you aren't just a shitposting SM shill it makes me laugh
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>>2662178
i think i speak for the rest of us when i say i wouldn't be laughing if i had just been caught in a nasty lie
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>>2662179
you calling the truth a lie because you're paid to is the only lie I see
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>>2662180
then you must not be able to see your first few posts wherein you claimed jessica was kicked out by members and the members parents
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>>2662181
she was kicked by the members that's true. I like you even twist it and say "by the members AND their parents" like the shill you are
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>>2662182
>that's true
and where's the proof of that? you know that saying something is true doesn't make it true, right
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>>2662184
I still haven't forgotten you're just here to shitpost and pretend jessica wasn't kicked. still not gonna waste my time pretending you're some unbiased person and not a paid shill
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>>2662185
>pretend
says the one lying through her teeth
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>>2662186
here's your 10 cents for continue to call the truth a lie just because you're paid to
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>>2662188
i call it a lie because you haven't provided any proof at all, not even a shred of evidence to support your claims
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