So I just sucked my first cock. He was an older tattooed straight dad. What are your stories of turning straight guys?
he looked like the guy in the pic, just a little less fit.
Oh my god this isn't a fucking story board. Go to the 10 other threads that are up if you want to read bullshit blog posts.
>>1383545
Actually, my history is a little strange. I don't know that I 'turned' anyone if I understand what you mean by "turn", but guys who prefer women somehow ended up being most of my sexual history. As time went on, I just stopped accepting gay males. Not sure why.
idh time to share a bunch of stories, but you can imagine the common theme. Always just guys in a pussy drought just wanting to get off and typically acting a little tipsy if they're drinking.
Men just want to get off. Once they trust you aren't gonna blab, dont have a lot of hang ups and dont expect any pussy in the near future, getting them to let go of a nut is about 50/50 I guess.
>>1383548
Not a bitch box either. If you wanna bitch about content, post some porn
>>1383545
That's Gareth Thomas - ex Welsh rugby player.
Yes and Gareth Thomas is gay....
>>1383545
Anybody have luck getting a straight guy on CL? Any tips on posting in m4m vs. replying in m4w, lingo, timing, whatever?
>>1383633
maybe backwards...
I *was* a straight guy and posted on CL for a woman to blow me. Ended up getting blown by a gay guy.
>>1383545
are you really that naive? that guy was gay, exactly like you.
>>1383633
I too am interested in using m4w to appeal to heteroflexible guys.
>>1383647
>exactly like you.
GOOBLE GOBBLE!
GOOBLE GOBBLE!
GOOBLE GOBBLE!
>these guys
>RETROACTIVE GENES
>HETEROSEXUALS ARE MORALLY PURE
>HOMOSEX IS A CONTACT INFECTION
And people wonder why I stay the hell away from other homos.
Im thinking about that time I was with a chick. Good time. Still gay.
>>1383718
>he thinks straight men engage in gay sex
Anyone who can get hard with both a man and woman is bisexual to some degree.
It's different if you close eyes and think of the gender you're attracted to I guess.
I don't think I could have sex with a woman because I can't get an erection from a female body.
>>1383722
Shh, don't hit him with reality, he needs his delusion to live his life, otherwise overly sensitive, what-will-everyone-think-of-me, straight fag will drive off a bridge or shoot up a gay club.
>>1383722
Right. They have a few experiences with males, date women, end up getting married and having kids and rarely if ever have an interest in using a fag again.
Ignore all that. What matters is they got head from a fag once, therefore they are and were gay their whole life.
What emotional rejection of logic *would* drive someone to think this is a meaningful accurate way to look sexuality.
In other news, I had a salad once but am still a closeted vegetarian.
And dont try to back-track with that 'bisexual' shit. You explicitly said 'gay' knowing we were talking about men who prefer females and use guys. It shows that you think heterosexuality is some vaunted state of purity while bisexuals are just a 'type' of gay.
I am not up for this playing teacher online for idiots today. Dont expect fast replies.
>>1383730
Jesus you're so easily triggered. This is an unhealthy way to embrace faggotry you know, you're on the fast track to a noose in your basement, not that the world would miss you.
>>1383730
>In other news, I had a salad once but am still a closeted vegetarian.
Good lord the level of delusion LMAOO. Yes that's a perfect analogy....
>>1383733
I quite embrace my faggotry. moreso because I know the difference.
>all these ad homs
Pointless to discuss. No one has nor ever will take any rational responsibility for spewing the 'world is secretly gay' shit.
The minute you demand some logic, the most they can come up with is "EVERYONE WHO EVER HAD HOMOSEX (or thought about it) IS GAY LIKE ME"
All other context, reality and reason is ignored and they flee on that point. They think gay is simply a breach of heterosexual 'purity' and sex only occurs between mutually attracted people.
>>1383730
>And dont try to back-track with that 'bisexual' shit. You explicitly said 'gay' knowing we were talking about men who prefer females and use guys. It shows that you think heterosexuality is some vaunted state of purity while bisexuals are just a 'type' of gay.
He said gay sex. Sex with another man is gay, if you have sex with women as well that makes you bisexual. End of story, this isn't that difficult to understand really. Straight men have no desire to, and never would fuck "just a fag" regardless of how insignificant they try to make it seem. I'm not up for playing online teacher either, this is a very simple concept, the only way you wouldn't understand this is mental illness or denial, and it appears you're riddled with both, which would also explain why you're here 24/7 posting about how you're not gay and the like.
This is what happens when you don't embrace it, folks. There's some wisdom for you today, do your best to absorb it no matter how much your "I'm not gay if I occasionally fuck men" defense mechanisms kick in.
>>1383737
>The minute you demand some logic, the most they can come up with is "EVERYONE WHO EVER HAD HOMOSEX (or thought about it) IS GAY LIKE ME"
Is this what your damaged, denial filled brain interprets those statements as? I guess your perspective makes more sense with that in mind. It seems more like you're trying to convince yourself than anyone else, so far nobody buys it. I wonder why.
Also extensive knowledge of grammar is more an indicator of a high-functioning autism than intelligence, per recent studies, so flashing >all these ad homs, and wedging in as many unnecessary words as possible doesn't make you sound intelligent, especially when you're trying to make the point that fucking men doesn't make you gay/BI.
>>1383737
>'world is secretly gay'
>actively fucking men
>>1383746
>>1383745
>>1383735
>>1383733
>>1383725
>>1383722
Mind you, these people actually think they are making a counter-point just because they posted.
>>1383739
>Straight men have no desire to, and never would fuck "just a fag"
Lets go with that. You tell me why. Lets see if you have any accountability to reason at all.
Tell me why a 'straight' guy, since I am forced to indulge these terms, would never 'have sex' with a 'gay guy' or more simply to the point, a male.
If you really are confident enough to defend this, I will indulge. At least you stated and honest if wrong viewpoint, or perhaps a misunderstanding of how useless the language has been changed for this.
The left gay agendists are now trying to push this view in Mexico too where 'machismo' culture and what we call "latin bisexuality' (which is more accurately non-modern western culture) is posing an obstacle to the equality agenda because homosex is not viewed with the same definitions there.
So they have to find a way to trawl every guy who has used a fag at some point to count them as gay or people might realize what a small and petulant group of agitators they are being paid by to lobby.
And let me be fair, its not all gays.
And so you understand, I am 'gayer' than Macys on Christmas, so dont proceed from the notion that I am some self loathing closet case, although by some definitions, I could be considered homophobic, having earned a contempt for most other gays.
>>1383741
I dont care if people buy it or not. I am not inventing this view. I am repeating what the rest of the world thinks outside the modern West echo chamber. In most of the world, the idea of using their translation of homosexual as a type of PERSON is limited to passive males who seek men. The homosexual ACT can be applied to anyone doing it. The former is a breach of gender and morals, the latter is simply a breach of morals and not a challenge to masculinity, just virtue, since its generally understood that men will fuck anything.
But according to you, your modern definition in this culture is right, however chaotic and irrational, and everyone else through history is wrong. And when that fails, like the trannies, you have never ending science fiction stories about elusive genes to fall back on, provided no one asks for proof and doesnt mind ignoring twin studies.
And please dont preach to me about diction. I have a vocabulary and I use it. Either you dont have it or you do and arent comfortable using it. Either way, bitching about words people use makes you look dull witted.
Points to all of you for getting me to reply.
>>1383757
This must be bait
>Tell me why a 'straight' guy, since I am forced to indulge these terms, would never 'have sex' with a 'gay guy' or more simply to the point, a male.
Because a straight guy is sexually attracted by women, not men.
You watched too much porn movies.
>>1383828
Right. So drunk straight men get head from fat chicks because they are attracted to fat.
Keep going.
this is the first cook i suck
>>1383832
>>1383641
So.... what got you? How can I get a guy like you?
>>1383545
>he looked like the guy in the pic, just a little less fit.
Work release, or straight-up parole?
>>1383715
You have to be the flexible one, accepting of 50-something hubbies that have been made celibate by their ice queens that already got what they wanted and no longer chose to put out, even on his fucking birthday.
>>1384015
?
So they are allllll old?
That doesnt sound very flexible.
Last I looked there were plenty of younger guys 20-35
>>1383831
Ok it was bait, thanks for the explanation.
>>1383957
The guy was very polite when he responded and I was polite back. No need to be an asshole.
We exchanged emails for a while about all sorts of stuff and every now and then he'd ask how I made out getting a blow job (I had posted a few more times and he had seen the ads).
When he suggest ed going over to his place, leaving the lights down low and letting him blow me I decided to give it a try. We both agreed that if I wasn't into it we could call it a night.
Went over and he probably gave me the best blow job I've ever had.
>>1384147
And the minute I point out guys have sex with people they aren't attracted to, your premise is shot and you slink off calling troll because you brought nothing to refute it.
Your whole premise was that straight men are straight because they are attracted to women, not men, and therefore wouldn't have sex with someone they aren't attracted to, and so therefore must be attracted to anyone they have sex with, and because attraction is always the moving and governing factor in sex decisions.
It doesn't even sound realistic and you know it.
I'm disappointed. I thought when I left the door open for you follow through your logic, you'd at least try to re-orient the premise supporting your claim. You just took your ball and went home. You didnt even make it through the first challenge.
Shamefur dispray.
And once again for me:
Me: 10,000
Online whacky homos: 0
TOTAL VICTORY
I would post a relevant reaction pic, but will post porn instead even if this board doesn't deserve it.
>>1384299
>Me: 10,000
>Online whacky homos: 0
Ah, so that's what's going in your delusional head. You see everyone making fun of you and your absurd responses and in your mind you're dispatching them one by one with your wit and intellect. He is definitely like the pretentious version of Brandon, no matter what you say to him he only reads the comments one way.
>>1384303
He's like that weird, usually non-hygienic nerdy kid in school who always got picked on, and instead of running and hiding or trying to fight back, he would correct you on your grammar and say some nonsense and everyone would snicker at him in front of his face, but he's so socially oblivious he didn't understand and he would think he just one-upped them because of his intelligence. Perspective and self-awareness are part of intelligence, my friend, you're not impressing anyone. As someone else said earlier on, it comes off more like flailing insecurity and the desire to impress.
>>1384303
>>1384304
>all this neurotic imagination about some fuck posting online
>>1384400
He's not "some fuck", he's taken up the mantle of board crazy guy after Brandon migrated to /soc/, and that's not a neurotic imagination, that's a stereotype, which I'm sure he fits right into. To someone as dull as yourself though (nice unfunny simpsons 'gif' by the way) I'm sure most of the things here seem neurotic and imaginative.
>>1384400
It's okay, this happens to me a lot. I will make some random observation and it triggers the mentally weaker because it punches holes through their fragile worldview.
Then come the angsty replies, usually trying to typify me with some ad homs so they can justify how a man can live in the same gay world they do and navigate it with so much more intellectual integrity and yet emotional strength. The strength is what they envy. Since they cannot hold my views without feeling insecurity and shame. They are used to being allowed their carefully constructed social fibs that never get challenged, so they become intellectually and emotionally sheltered from truths that make them uncomfortable.
Then you typically see, as demonstrated here, the envy culminates in intense attention attempting to hold mine so they can observe longer and interact with me, all the while insisting I must be dense or obtuse because the confidence mesmerizes them, a bit like females who keep making snarky comments at alphas to indicate they are not interested and yet stay close hoping for some validation.
So it doesn't bother me, I'm used to it. They may sound like they protest my views, but clearly they are intrigued, as shown from these endless replies. They sense the confidence, the novelty of intellectual courage tandem with emotional strength, and the thought of a man with such a massive mind that can thrust ahead with the full force of truth penetrating their soft ideas, gaping wide with insecurities and quivering with timidity intoxicates them and they can't help themselves. The presense of such a weighty, firm and solid mind ramming away at their helpless ignorance and battering against their naivete hypnotizes them and they can help submitting to more passive-aggressive begging to hear more...
>>1383757
As a Mexican I'm interested in what you call 'latin bisexuality', care to define it for me?
>>1384446
... It's just one more internet manifestation of bitches that can't get off my cock. It doesn't bother me. It's sort of cute, if a bit wearisome. I get more unsolicited replies than actual pictures of cock on a porn board, which pretty much tells you everything you need to know
>>1384446
This is your reply. Savor it, just relax and let it go all the way back into your fascination with that guy on the internet, and let the taste of that degradation just fill your fantasies and submit to admitting what you are and what you want. Your shameless cajoling for replies have exposed you to everyone here, it's obvious and everyone knows, everyone sees it, sees through you.. Your infatuation is wide open for all to see.
Your motives lay bare and entirely naked to everyone. You need to just accept it, take it in and let it flow right through. I promise once you stop resisting, it will feel awesome.
You will be in complete blissful harmony with the experience and all the shame will be replaced with eager humility, that primitive instinctive self-forgiveness to unashamedly want more.
Just open up and let it in. You're gonna love it, I promise.
That was your reply. If you want it again, just ask me very nicely.
>>1384449
It's an older term, it very likely may no longer in use.
It was once used in the US among psych academics to explain confusion Latin Americans would have in entering the Anglo Western culture where the reigning terms like "homosexual" and "gay" didn't translate exactly. So what the US Center for Disease Control calls MSM, or Men who have Sex with Men, is blanketed under our colloquial language as 'gay' even though many Latin American cultures where typical men who prefer females but may penetrate males do not see themselves as 'gay' as it would be translated in their culture, at least not in the same way. This is how it is in most cultures; distinctions in a male who seeks to submit to males is not seen as the same as any given male who might penetrate them. Distinctions are made on moral virtue; such a man may be seen as a hypersexual man of vice, but since he has a male role, he isn't seen as the same, or as a male who abandons his gender role. It's still morally frowned on, but not in the same way or with the same contempt for males who seek to be passive.
The term 'bisexuality' is all over the map, When a word means so many different things to so many different views, it becomes a worthless term until there is some agreement. So used in the most clumsy way, it simply means men who have sex with males and females regardless of role, preference, lifestyle, frequency and so on.
>>1384458
You can read a little about it here, though grossly biased towards the idea that MSM should accept the 'gay' label rather it meshes with their culture or identity or not, to increase 'visibility' (inflating numbers). The salient points are found mostly under the heading "machismo" although of course the concept is not isolated to Mexico or even the new world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Mexico#Societal_prejudices_and_terminologies
The references to how the leftist gay agendists in the US are trying to change definitions, I notice, has been removed. As usual, the lgbt poliical movement is led by feminists and the usual suspects.
It is not a welcome intrusion into their culture, trying to redefine if from outside influences. The same thing happened when Japan shut out the white West and grew weary of Hirschfelds dogmatic and frankly clumsy edicts on all his self-certain taxonomies of male sexuality.
The CDC need a practical term in medicine, and accidentally coined the most common sense term, MSM, with no convoluted assumptions about how or why men have sex with men, simply that they do. The CDC needed a constant lucid term, and accidentally set an example that academia adamantly ignores because it doesn't sell any useful narrative.
In the US, we have various terms to explain the same values, but the values are attacked by pro-gay agendists. For example, a man who is married and takes an active role in gay sex is viewed less as 'bisexual' and widely accused of being 'closeted' gay because his choice of lifestyle doesn't forward lgbt numbers or support. We also have a Down-Low culture that is essentially the same value set, but it is left alone because the left doesn't like to interfere with black masculinity...
>>1384470
... Universally, it basically is seen that males who like cocks are more contemptible and have different taxonomy socially then any man who may choose to use a male sexually. It is traditional and pro-male, where males get to decide who they are without argument, so it is an affront to leftism generally, as it asserts male primacy in deciding what masculinity should be and defined. If feminists arent allowed to call men fags, men get to police their own definition of masculinity and homosexual activity. Put another way, if women have no leverage, passive homosexual men become competition that offer sex without relationships, pregnancy etc. This would force women to compete more, which is probably why the most vicious homophobes seem to be fat insecure females.
Random pic just because I f'ing loved this Mexican comedy movie and Cabos is such a crazy daddy.
>>1384450
>>1384458
>>1384470
>>1384471
tl;dr
>>1384481
Unlikely, since you took the time to quote each post. Your anus probably puckered from every word.
Or perhaps you're the type that cant focus on anything longer than a text message and think news articles over a paragraph feel like homework, who knows. Comprehensive literacy tends to be the exception among those who are mentally children.
This is the part where you post it again, having completely run out of any hope of wit, or perhaps just a reaction pic and some edgy greentext.
>>1384177
I think i'm the gay guy who blew you
I like "straight" dudes best. I turned my current boyfriend completely out though so I guess he wasn't really straight. Here is my most recent conquest of our mutual friend though:
>Befriend a guy my female friend is trying to date
>They fuck but he doesnt like her
>They fall out but we keep in touch
>he's over chillin with us every weekend smoking and drinking
>always swears he'd never do shit with another guy
>I have a bf so I'm not interested in proving him wrong
>years go by, we all get sloshed out on the lake and he turns super gropey asking for us to suck his dick
>claims he's going to fuck my big ass (ghetto booty lol)
>bf is laughing along as this happens, helping him grope me n shit so Im not buggin
>he ends up falling out of our oversized ford and lands face first on a curb
>reasonably paranoid about drinking too much on all future endeavors
>Bf and me about to move across the country
>one last hurrah
>bf passes out like a bitch
>we get stupidly shitfaced somehow Im sucking his dick
>skinny but long with a crazy downward curve
>prob about 8.5-9 inches
>fucking my throat he wants to fuck my ass
>offers to grab a condom from his car
>I back off cause im starting to sober up
>think about it for 2 weeks
>move gets delayed, he comes over to chill
>keeps dropping hints he wants to try again
>>1384778
>ignore em, bf goes to work the next morning while we chill
>start jerking off (pretty normal in my house during a chill night to watch porn together or privately if we are gonna jack off)
>say fuck it, turn porn off ask to talk about what happened
>tell him I want to suck him again while im sober since before I was about to puke up the vodka
>he says he guesses and pulls out a semi hard dick
>end up moving to the bedroom cause of dogs
>choke on his dick but cant really get into it though he is clearly enjoying my deepthroating skills
>want to fuck but no condom
>offer to let him stick the tip in me a bit
>he slams it in balls deep and pins me to the bed
>put up a little resistance but it feels too good
>he is shocked he's about to nut just from sticking it in
>I laugh and say "What"
>he immediately cums in my ass right after
>suck his dick after while i jerk off
>everything returns to normal
>about a week from moving and now engaged
If he lets you suck his cock
he's not straight
>>1383545
>>>>straight
suuure
weird fucking fags
>>1384795
Thank you. I appreciate the kind words.
>>1384796
So why are guys who start life dating girls and end up with guys not calling themselves bisexual?
You guys keep making this declarations but you never want to follow up on the logic.
I'm fairly sure people are just baiting me now because I've issued the challenge several times and no one wants to be accountable for the sloppy definitions in labels, and just want replies.
The problem with them is they fail "longitudinally" because they cant account for different periods before an after an event, alongside deliberately ignoring 50 other factors.
These types of gays (and straights) look at heterosexuality as a purist state, while looking at homosexuality as eternally and even retroactively corrupting. They aren't looking at sexual labels as lifestyles and preferences, habits or values. To them, it just means chastity from homosexuality and once breached, they become "one of us", an unhealthy and absurd way to view ones own sexuality.
More acutely, it says something about the need for people to label others and enforce an idea, even when its as muddled as this.
Gays will reject the idea that they can go straight, but insist straights can turn gay. They would have you believe that men who have lived their whole life without an interest in males can get drunk and get head from a homo, and their interpretation of it is that his 'gay genes' were somehow activated that had somehow been there all along, and that all it took was alcohol to activate them.
Because to them, that makes more sense than a horny drunk guy screwing someone he normally wouldn't.
Everyone wants to dictate these things but no one wants to be accountable to reason, because reason has nothing to do with the impassioned motive to enforce the idea.
If you think heterosexuality is best defined as simply chastity from homosexuality, then just come out and say it. But then be ready to explain how it reconciles with other realities.
>>1384825
Saying are one big Latin americans group is like saying all Asian countries are the same. Also the entire "Latino Sexuality is different from the Western one" is bullshit made up by white men and woman to dehumanize and take advantage of Latinos (See: Use and see them as sex objects)
>>1383545
>Older dom daddy here.
>Surfing through a daddy/boy dating site, looking for a cute boy to use.
>Get a response from a young blonde that isn't too far.
>Invite the boy over and he actually shows up.
>Obviously nervous, also obvious he has no experience.
>We talk for a bit, he's straight, just turned 18. A very cute, handsome boy, a 9.5/10.
>I ask him what he's into
>"Want to get dominated and humiliated by an older dom."
>This boy already has my cock hard, so I tell him to undress.
>Smooth chest, slim-athletic build, nice tight stomach. Surprisingly thick pair of thighs too, with a cut and smooth cock hanging in between.
>Told him to get on his knees and then put my cock in his mouth. He wasn't terrible but definitely could use my guidance, so I showed the boy how to use his tongue and even face fucked him.
>Threw him on my bed, spread him open and lubed up his hole. He was a tight one, I spent about 20 minutes using a toy before actually being able to get it in.
>I ended up cumming early in missionary, this boy had the cutest blush to him and watching his lil cock bounce was too much to handle, so I busted it all over his stomach.
>Rarely do I ever fuck the first time, but for this boy, I had to.
>>1385188
But Latin Americans are a group, thats why we have the term "Latin Americans". No one is saying they are perfectly homogenous, simply that there are observable themes.
Just like your "white men".
And I think its safe to say that sexuality and definitions vary from culture to culture, such as the Japanese notion of homosex being 'shumi' or a hobby.
Even that makes more sense then the Western idea of homosex as some freakish medical genetic condition that tries to approximate homosex as a heterosexual liefstyle waiting to be discovered for its social virtues, instead the same old sodomite fun of all human history, if only fags would just start thinking like straight people.
Yeah, I'm sure this gay marriage thing is really going to be selling to gays like hotcakes now. Nothing says male behavior like commitment in youth or old men wanting to live with old men. Christ, even straight men wise up to that by their 30s
>>1383558
sauce on pic?
>>1385188
>>1384781
>about a week from moving and now engaged
The wedding theme will be casual STDs.
>>1385201
>just turned 18.
har-dee statutory-har-har
>>1385457
I wish I knew. I have wondered for years and never found it.
>>1385552
Thanks, that may help if I give another try at sourcing. Old amateur is hard to source.
>on CL
>find 35 year old dude, nice fit body, not super muscular but its all there
>says he wants to fuck a smooth hole, wants someone fem
>tell him i also have a thong and thigh high socks
>he likes it
>tell him im going to shave my hole for him
>says he is hard at the thought of it
>day comes
>We meet in a park
>i get down on my knees
>his cock is semi-hard
>puts a condom on it, tells me to suck it
>suck it for a good 2-3 minutes while he tries to throatfuck me
>my throat cant handle hardfucking and i keep spewing a bit in my mouth, tears are flowing as well
>this is getting boring
>he wants to fuck my hole now
>get on all fours
>he tries to put it in
>goes soft
>suck dick again
>tries again
>goes soft
>tells me he doesnt like dudes and likes chicks
>leaves me while im like half naked in a fucking park
>mfw he didnt tell me he was straight whatsoever, not in the ad or in our messages
fucking wasted my time, he did throw the condom off though. In hindsight it wouldve been hot to have taken that and used a condom a straight guy used, oh well
>>1383828
dude, not the guy you are reffering to, But I had sex with a straight friend a couple of weeks ago.
We just don't kiss because he thinks that is gay.
I'm bi with a gf. I've been with "straight men" who won't kiss or cuddle. I've been in three somes with a gay couple. Everyone knows and it works to my advantage because people want to experiment with me. Also should mention in university town so everyone's willing to try stuff out while they're away from the pressures of childhood social circles and family.
>>1385847
>We just don't kiss because he thinks that is gay
Im a fag and I agree. Kissing is for men to women. When two men do it, I guess its ok, but it seems to indicate they think sex play between to males is the same as actual sex between male and female. They dont really follow the same intent.
One is just for getting off. The other is for where feelings may evolve to somewhere. If two males are having feelings for each other over sex, they are beginning to lose the plot. Its fine, but it shows the distinction between gay and general homosex.
>>1386202
>"Men can't make love to men"
Faggot
>>1386214
>make love to men
>to men
>love
ew wtf
no time for emotional weaklings. Sounds like that lame 'equal partnership' crap women use to dupe men into submitting
Luckily, only betas fall for it.
>>1386247
Wow, you must be so alpha. I know that's the surest sign of being alpha as well, bragging about how alpha and detached you are on an old, dead gay porn board filled with fuck/marry/kill and Justin Bieber threads.
>>1386248
No, I am pretty fuckin far from being an alpha. You dont have to be an alpha to know what male mental maturity is.
>an old, dead gay porn board filled with fuck/marry/kill and Justin Bieber threads
You'll fit in well, trust me.
The next time a mans cock is down stuffed in your skull, remember to say "I am an equal and deserve respect and equal treatment, and this man is expressing his respect for my deep love for him"
That always cracks me up. Although to be fair, the next time youre in that position, you'll have undoubtedly settled for a versatile, so comparing yourself to a bottom with delusions of vestigial manhood as an equal is a meaningless statement, if we're being honest.
There are no real versatiles, just bottoms desperate for any arrangement that stops them from being alone to the point of pretending they know how to fuck if they have to. Plus, it helps them believe they are somehow closer to being a normal man because they think they can imitate one sexually. In reality, normal men would only value them for their holes.
That pretty much sums it up. It always comes down to the holes. If you take a dick in one, theres no reason to delude yourself into thinking you'e a normal man. Its better just to accept it and celebrate it than all this 'I'm equal to a normal man' nonsense. Its not just pitiable, its an insult to normal men to associate yourself with them while taking cocks in your holes.
Poles and holes. Thats what it all comes down to. Open your hole, no one really cares what you think your pole means. Sort of like lids on a trash can, just a useless attachment to a receptacle.
And that's that. Good thing I don't charge for these lessons in reality or half the faggots here would be broke already.
You're welcome.
God this thread is full of bullshit.
Post stories you meanies
>>1386289
>tl;dr
>i'm just as big a faggot as everyone else on this board
>>1386289
Is crazy anon still here and babbling? Someone get this man some help for fucks sake, he seems to be living the delusion that he's still debating everyone here, the same way that a mental homeless debates a brick wall. Seek treatment mate.
>>1386303
Well, yes, just a lot more self-aware and better able to process macro-realities through observation. You may call it genius if you like; I just think of it as idle commentary.
>>1386306
Except the brick walls dont complain about being stripped of ignorance. You argue with me and then deny there is a debate.
Pray, what meds are you familiar with that you can blatantly deny reality visible to everyone and then call others crazy.
>>1386289
>>1386312
It's cool that you're into the whole D/s thing, but you have to understand that not everyone is. It has a tendency to rub people the wrong way when you insist that your fetish-filtered worldview is objective fact.
>>1386330
I tend to hyperbolize for entertainment, but I don't think I alluded to anything as a fetish.
To me, a fetish is where you develop a paraphilia for something not actually inherent to sex. Just observing that there is anatomical and intrapersonal influences on the basic mechanics of sexual interaction doesnt strike me as a fetish.
Enhanced levels of dominate/submissive behavior are just that, enhanced. They may or may not actually converge with a fetish, such as BDSM.
I take a view that these inherent dynamics are a natural part of sexual behavior. It is one thing to prefer to keep that dynamic suppressed in the interaction. But to suppose anything else is a fetish, I think, is a paralax perception of natural sexual function and interaction.
Vis-a-vis sex in nature, the desire to minimize expression of dominate/submissive dynamics in sex would appear artificial and ego constructed. I wont call it a fetish, but it is still exceptional to the physical norm and depends on two refraining from something already there. To indulge it, you dont have to invent any new dynamic, its built into the interaction, physical expression and the roles the people take.
To describe what is there is not itself a worldview, just observable empirical statement of facts.
It becomes my worldview when I suggest people would enjoy the sex more if they embraced these dynamics rather than withdraw into delicate, risk-aversive approaches to sexual engagement with a man.
That part is my opinion, and I am very confident in it. It is separate from the facts that lead me to view it as such.
I am evidence that seducing a single straight guy who hasn't had pussy in a while, is achievable. With enough time and effort with a tad bit of deception, it can be done. It took about 6 months but I concored with success.
He has since moved on with a beautiful girlfriend and I'm genuinely glad to see him happy.
I absolutely think he is not gay at all, he was very vulnerable at the time. I took full advantage of that and had my way with him.
We treated sex as a time pass to break boredom, with no feelings or kissing. Just me slurping on his dick with his eyes closed.
It never escalated to fucking, I'm a scared virgin bottom. I can't get past the pain lol.
We now get on still, we're both happy. End of.
Theres a guy Ive met a couple times now that says he's straight. He likes mutual jerking off though, both watching each other jerk and jerking each other to completion. No real body contact, although the second time he wanted to face me so my knees were kinda resting in his inner thigh so we could watch each other clearly.
When we first did it he wanted to put up porn to get into it so I figured itd be straight porn. But both times he used other porn of guys jerking off to get erect. It's unusual to me, but he's hot and I really enjoy it and wont make anything weird by questioning him or moving past whatever he's feeling comfortable with. He wants to find the third guy that can join in, which I'm okay with.
>>1386562
That seems perfectly natural and honestly, I think that is the whole social point of homosex, to alleviate males, especially those who make the effort to breed.
Men who prefer females is 95% of my own sexual history. I cant get into other gays because the whole "we are just like straights' mentality blinds them to so much that they all seem mentally warped. I turn on grindr or go to a club and its nothing but weirdos and social outcasts with raging "gay face" (gay hair cuts, usually).
I dont think you took advantage of him. You were selling a good time and he bought it. He can self flaggelate his morals as much as he wants, he cant blame you. Its a little odd you put it that way, like "had your way". with him, which sounds a little creepy.
Was this actually a fag helping a guy out or was this honestly some old man getting a young guy drunk and giving him a "tip". When you describe it as near-predatory, its hard to read.
>>1386705
As long as you both mentally leave labels out of it, you will keep having a good time.
One school of thought focuses on whether guys prefer males or females.
Mine is that guys like to get off, and adapt to opportunity.
>>1383545
Ah, the typical thirsty, aging fag who trolls around bars for low-hanging fruit. Very often employed as bartenders.
I know several.
>>1386731
>I know several.
It sure sounds like it.
>>1386731
You'll be that age before you know it, and with that attitude, just as lonely and bitter.
Does meeting up a straight guy, dating him then marrying him count ? if so then i guess my story would fit under this !
>>1387854
I'd rather be lonely in private than pathetic in public, grampa.
>>1391990
You will be both.
>>1385201
>he's straight
lmao, stopped reading
For context, I live in Japan, so I'm generally less worried about random strangers I meet being axe murderers.
I exchanged messages with a guy on an app for quite a while. We finally decide to meet up, pretty late at night. Head to the place, message him, not getting a reply. Assume he fell asleep, and hang around a bit, because I'm super horny.
Then I saw a guy asleep on a bench, and he looked pretty similar to the guy in the picture. Went over, woke him up, chat a bit, turns out they just happened to look alike, and this was a random straight guy, and my meetup had indeed fallen asleep.
We're talking, he's pieced together that I'm gay etc. I offer him a ride home, otherwise he has to wait for the trains to start running @ 5am. We get in my car and talking a lot, he's fully aware that I'm offering him sex.
He says he'd do it for the equivalent of 100 bucks, I tell him he won't be getting any money. Eventually I promise to introduce him to a girl I'm friends with and finally get his dick out. I blow him, get his messenger info, and he goes home a very happy man. Blocked him asap, oops.
The amount of coaxing and promising required to gethis dick out, followed by the amount of physical exertion in order to get him hard and finish the job... I'll stick with gays.
>>1392188
>I live in Japan
>turns out they just happened to look alike, and this was a random straight guy
White people be like "All Asians Look The Same!"
>>1392188
>Blocked him asap, oops.
BAKA GAIJIN
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>>1383715
I drunkenly was on CL one night and replied to a m4w by mistake. I don't even know how I misread it but it was basically some super bro lookin for head. He was actually kinda cool about it, so I apologized and wished him luck. About an hr later I get an email from him saying he was having no luck but was really horny and down as long as it was discreet. We exchanged a few emails before I had him come over. He was obviously nervous, but that faded away the minute my hand was about halfway up his thigh. Ended up suckin his cock a few times over the next few months then lost touch.
I've since then "accidentally" replied to m4w adds but it hasn't worked. Oh well was fun
One of my best friends is openly gay, and thinks he "turned" me. I'm bisexual, and at the time when we first fooled around still wasn't open about it. He always would hit on me and I would play dumb or brush it off as him just being him. Eventually we got closer and closer and one night we got all drunk and he got bolder than usual. One thing led to another and we wound up fooling around (jerking off, and blowing eachother) he then made a comment about how hot it was that I was straight so I just fuckin let him have the win. Whatever that's my bro and if it turned him on thinking that then hell yea.
>>1392069
NICE. [thumbs up]
So glad I've helped use up the world so assholes like him end up with NOTHING.
>>1392504
tell him to watch the movie Kinsey and fuckoff
>>1392188
I like the pursuit though, the seduction. I am working on one now. I doubt it will go off. But I still like the mental-chess game, the verbal swordplay. I love that part.
I love that if I do it just right, they think it was their idea.
"I have to go deeper." lel
>>1386202
That's just stupid. Kissing is a physical act, as is sucking a cock or fucking an ass.
I had a fuck buddy once who wouldn't kiss, at east not on the lips, which was frustrating to me since I'm orally inclined. If I was fucking him I'd kiss his ears, shoulders and chest but he wouldn't let me kiss his lips because it was too intimate.
Dude... your cock is all the way up my ass. How much more intimate can you get???
>>1392192
>"All Asians Look The Same!"
They do though.
