>WW1 was a thing that happened
Can we all agree that WW1 is the most depressing time period in history?
I wish all the empires, monoarchies and old world order weren't destroyed.
>WW1 was literally a family disagreement
>>995417
pffff....no. big reason we run everything.
Agreed.
I read on some British website, about one soldiers account of the war that was just terrifying.
He joined a little late in the war, stabbed a few wounded germans with his bayonet, walked a few hundred yards with his battalion (about a 1000 men) to another trench, and was hit by german arty. A few seconds later he was buried alive, then dug himself out using another's severed leg as a implemented shovel. made it back to his trench after almost being shot by his own men. Later found out his entire battalion was wiped off the face of the earth.
He was shipped to a hospital for 'shell shock', for obvious reasons, but somehow mentally recovered.
>tfw in the late 1960's there were still facilities in france being used to treat ww1 ptsd victims.
>>995479
Oh man, capes are so fucking cool.
>>995427
>Nicky got executed and Willy got exiled
Almost 100 years and this still makes me sad
;_;
>>995417
what saddens me the most is, it's that all the horrible shit that's ever happened in 20th and 21st century can be traced back to WW1
>>997964
So Serbs ruined everything
Best european borders?
>>995479
"I didn't want this"?
Why weren't wwI vets like "fuck no you aren't having another war" once 1939 rolled around? Did Hitler like wwI?
>>998642
what are you even doing on this board?
>All those children and young men sent to die in a muddy trench
Pretty sad tbhfam
>>998030
I didn't want this fate (for you) or perhaps I didn't want this (war to happen at all) or something?
>>997977
You know although that isn't necessarily true from my experience with S*rbs and from what I know about their history S*rbs are truly a shit-tier people.
>>998642
>Did Hitler like wwI?
No, it is well known he was a pacifist who wanted to prevent the second world war from happening but the Jews tricked him into invading Europe and he had to retaliate by killing them
>>995543
>Suicide of Europe
Failed attempt. It lived and mange to recover, to pull the trigger again
>>998642
>Why weren't wwI vets like "fuck no you aren't having another war" once 1939 rolled around?
Why do you think Chamblerlain tried to appease Hitler?
>>997983
>1914
>Turkey
>>998689
kek
Ww1 is kinda overshadowed by ww2 because of the latter's size. But it's so bizarre. men taught to fight with swords went and died in trenches, on hellscapes of destroyed land which resemble heavy metal cover art. In the air biplanes are rattling around: wizzing bullets in a slap fight of barely trained boys with 5 day life expectancies.
Rickety tanks advance briefly fighting over mud. And most die without ceremony from random mortars, leaving chunks for decoration and rats food.
>>1001299
It was a synonym for the Ottomans back then.
>>997964
You mean the French Revolution
The thought of getting stuck in the mud at paeschendael with your comrades and sometimes even enemy soldiers unable to pull you out despite of trying, leaving you to eventually drown in it is fucking horrifying to me. Christ, your fellow and enemy soldiers would literally shoot you out of mercy.
Additionally whilst the Germans did commit some atrocities, there really wasn't the same type of good vs bad guys as there was in WW2. Instead it was just the culmination of centuries of European conflict
>>995417
30 years war and the Taiping Rebellion are up there in how shitty the wars were for everyone involved.
>>1001320
I can't even Imagine it, especially the fucking smell of mud, rotting flesh, and mustard gas. It sounds so surreal
>>997870
>TFW you were born in the age of comfy memes and shitposting not the age of getting blown up by artillery in a cold muddy trench
lottery tbqh familia
>>998642
Hitler barely even fought in WW1
He was a cowardly messenger that made the link between the rear of the frontline and the real rear
>>1002458
I think you're spouting some slander there friend. He was commended well during his service.
>>1002408
The 30 Years War was awful for civilians, but it doesnt even come close from WW1 when it comes to shittiness of soldiers conditions
>>998642
>Did Hitler like wwI?
I'm no expert but I'd guess it was sort of a revenge or justification thing. People want their suffering to have meaning, they want a narrative and villain. WWI was mostly just senseless horror and I'd bet a lot of vet couldn't live with that. they probably wanted someone to blame and get back at for all the shit they had to go through.
>>1002458
No. He was a brave messenger.
>>995417
No.
>>1002458
He saved a soldiers life and was subjected to gassing once or twice
and he earned the following awards:
Military Cross
Iron Cross First Class
Iron Cross Second Class
Wound Badge
Bavarian Cross of Military Merit, Third Class with Swords
Regimental Diploma (Regiment "List")
Bavarian Medal of Military Service, Third Class
>>1002491
>they probably wanted someone to blame and get back at for all the shit they had to go through.
Why couldnt they just look at facts and blame German leaders?
>>995417
WW2 was more brutal and depressing than WW1.
Why do Germans make such good bad guys?
>>1002516
That conflict had the pleasure of being a mobile war. Must we compare?
>>1002521
>WW1 Child Soldiers (German).webm
>(German)
Is this what it's like to be triggered? I do not like it one bit.
>>1002548
>is this what it's like...
Depends. Can you even right now?
>>1002521
Those are french soldiers, you can tell by the uniforms. Germans wore dark grey with the pointy helmets or caps
>>1002553
>Can you even right now?
You're either missing a word or you meant "write", which doesn't make much sense to me.
>>1002560
Fuck me....changing right now.
>>1002458
People seem to like to think messengers weren't 'real soldiers' when the reality is the role of messenger in that war was fucking deadly.
You're the poor asshole who actually has to get up and run back and fourth relaying information when things go to shit and communication wires get cut. That is exactly the time you don't want to be a guy running back and fourth, runners got mowed down all the damn time.
You could never point and shoot a gun once in that war and still require adamantium balls to do your job. Hitler being a shitty guy doesn't automatically by default make him a shitty soldier.
>>1002572
It's a tumblrism
When triggered, "I can't even right now" is often exclaimed. Getting across the idea that they cannot deal with whatever is bothering them right now.
>*posts picture of trump or pomegranates*
>*tumblrite in the course of arguing*
>"Like, I can't even right now"
>>1002585
where is this from?
>>1002458
The messenger's job was to run between the trenches relaying orders. This was one of the most dangerous jobs around since people had to run through enemy fire.
>>1002509
The average working class schmuck probably didn't know much about politics and didn't have a lot of opportunities to learn. He might read the newspaper but you can only learn so much from that. Even today when we have information readily available most people are more concerned with doing their jobs and relaxing when they get home. When your trying to support your family in a failing economy you don't want to spend a good deal of your time figuring out how politics work.
We also have the benefit of being able to look back from a comfortable point in history. It's much harder to navigate a huge political clusterfuck as it happens.
>>1002599
Learn something new everyday I guess. I was just taking the piss out of the triggering trend in general with my post and the godawful filename.
>>1002610
Don't know. Saved it here.
>>1002509
Probably because they had taken a look at the greater picture which doesn't leave France and especially Russia as innocent parties.
>>1002620
You're an imbecile
Russia didnt nothing else than back Serbia, an ally of theirs that had been injustly attacked
France did literally nothing
>>1002560
I was wondering why I wrote German and I recall looking up the origin of "Fendrich", the name of the soldier that appears at the end and seeing that it was German.
What would Europe be like today if WW1 never happened?
>>1002528
Depends on where you were. The eastern front had its share of god awful sieges that were comparable to some of the worst battles of the first world war.
>>1002638
No communism, no cold war, alliances probably would have blown up eventually.
>>1002638
It would happen anyway. Sad but true.
>>1002638
Eternal European Empires
>>1002638
The powers could possibly still kept their colonies longer
>>1002487
WW1 was the worst war to be a soldier
30 years war was the worst war to be a civilian
>>995479
>"Hey Austria, here's a blank cheque, lol!"
>...
>"I did not want this..."
>>1002681
Fuck off commie. Go collect some cotton.
>>1002693
More like:
>return from vacations
>the wolrd is collapsing
>>995417
30 Year's War was more devastating and depressing if you ask me.
>>1002710
>Wilhelm totally didn't want war
le ebil vacations
>>995479
I wonder what did he think will happen?
>>1002617
Holy fuck lmao
How come after ww2, Germany changed to their current flag (black, yellow, red) instead of going back to the one they had before the Nazis (black, white, red)?
>>995424
They deserved it desu.
It was bollocks.
>>1002762
Dude just wow its 2015+1 and want that racist flag? You know that they had colonies for a short time in BLACK countries. The Nazis used it for a while. NIE WIEDER DEUTSCHLAND. Its something like this here. The allies and the soviets made it this way
>>1002762
They returned to the flag of Weimar republic.
>>1002762
Black, yellow, red used by:
HRE
anti-Napoleonic liberators
Weimar Republic
Black, white, red used by:
Prussia
Second Reich
Third Reich
The periods where black, white and red were used aren't exactly the ones that the modern German state wants to be associated with.
>>1002629
Germany was absolutely certain that it was going to lose if both Russia and France mobilized at the same time.
If they let AH be destroyed then they lose their only ally.
If they don't strike first, Russia mobilizes in time to attack together with France, destroying Germany.
>>1002829
that piece of television has done more to warp, destroy and skew the perception of ww1 than any other human endeavor
>>995417
Ultimately, it was all just an appetizer for WWII
>>1002980
Then end it's just great. Dat feels.
>>1002915
Yep
Modern Germany is a castrated cuck nation so they'd rather be associating with the >H >R >E, the anti-napoleonic ""liberators"" who did nothing but piggyback Russians and the Weimar Cuckpublic that was the enbodiement of failure and defeat than with the Strong entities that were Prussia and the last two Reichs
>>1003276
>Strong entities that were the last two Reichs
>not the "enbodiement" of failure and defeat
>>997983
Delusional desu
>>997983
>Belgium still exists
>Alsace-Lorraine isn't French
>Corsica is Italian
>Turkey exists west of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles
Austria looks perfect tho.
>>1002521
the helmets bro.
>>1002617
*eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*
>>1002585
That little kid at the beginning looks like a textbook Jew.
>>997977
No, it was William II. Bismarck was careful in his actions, only having a war happen when he knew it would be quick, relatively painless, and beneficial to Germany. He even set up a network of treaties that would've made an pan-European war impossible.
Then William II comes to power, decides he's too good for helpers, throws Bismarck out, trashes all his treaties, ruins all of his plans, and sends Europe spiraling towards WWI.
So basically, every single modern problem can be blamed on Wilhelm. I wish we could bring him back to life so we could all collectively beat the shit out of him.
>>1002638
probably colonies would be kept.
Well Germans deserved everything they got for becoming nazis and trying to kill gods chosen people
>>1002516
WW2 was just bigger, it wasnt as horrible. The western front was like 4 years of stalingrad, with gas
>>1002521
Sexiest uniforms of the war
>>1004915
>imblyging
>>995417
>shh do you hear?
>it's the sound of git gud
>>1002610
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2vbulh
>>1002617
>be russian soldier
>fought in Stalingrad
>followed Zhukov trough west europe up to berlin
>get killed by some impatient artillery men
>>995446
>Bunker Hill
>Tie
>>1004915
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. SAY FRENCHIE HOW DOES THE LANDSCAPE LOOK LIKE?
>>1004998
i gotchu senpai
>>1004622
they were getting desperate. blond hair really helped him get into the army and out of a camp
>>1002668
Nah they would've been funding independence movements in their rivals colonies.
>>1002706
Don't pretend you would have been a part if it, you miss something that you've never known. Also aristocracies are about as anti capitalist as commies as the market isn't free anyways. You gags are no better than weeabos longing for Japan I swear.
In WW2 memoirs of Pacific vets they -all- write about how seeing their own dead turn black and begin to decompose because of the heat during heavy fighting when bodies couldn't be retrieved really fucked with them mentally.
WW1 is the only war I know of where, because of no man's land, bodies were unable to be retrieved and allowed to decompose to skeletal remains. I imagine the effect is worse.
>>1002610
Haha, I made that webm. Pulled it from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=592ZXOuG7yE
It's obviously a staged sequence, though I doubt they meant to knock the dude out. I know concussion can kill, not sure if that'd be enough to do it.
>webm unrelated
>>1004961
dat #4
is he a sharpshooter, cuz he looks like robbin hood.
>>1003175
WW2 was the aftermath.
>>1002681
This
>>1004910
>The western front was like 4 years of stalingrad
but it wasn't - the majority of the western front were cold sectors where life was basically exceedingly dull boredom with even artillery shelling being rare
do not let the image of the absolute flashpoints of the large scale offensives paint the picture of the entirety of the front
If the German revolution had succeed I would've accepted world War 1
>>1004910
>>1006233
a great book about it is "enduring the great war" by watson
people think of the western front as this 24/7/365 meatgrinder of constant artillery where thousands of soldiers just mindlessly climb out of the trench and get mowed down by machineguns constantly but that simply is not true at all
>>1006271
the concept of attrition in war does not make an entire front over a period of four years "like stalingrad"
>>1004910
WWII was WWI but with better manners.
>>1005485
#4 is Alpine troops, #5 is Bersaglieri
>>1006233
This
>>1006327
Ww1 hade the Christmas truce so I would say you are wrong
Personally for me, the collapse of the USSR into Stalinism and brutal conservatism is one of the most depressing things in history.
I would be really interested to see what Soviet culture would have turned into if Stalin didn't repress the Bolshevik Avant Garde.
Tatlin tower not being built is the worlds biggest crime against architecture.
Revolutionary Soviet art and architecture is aesthetic as fuck.
>>1006367
The truces on Christmas 1914 caused a fuckhueg crackdown afterwards, nothing on that scale happened for the rest of the war. In Storm of Steel, Ernst Junger wrote that English snipers would shot down a christmas tree that his men put on a parapet. Groups of men that went to fraternize with the enemy during holidays would usually be captured.
>>1002521
I think its the language jaa
>>1004910
The fact that you would.compare anything with stalingrad makes me think you dont know what the fuck you are talking about
Storming pavlovs house was nothing like storming a trench, falling back to the reserve trenches and eating a hot meal was nothing like crawling out of a basment window and digging up frozen potatoes from the yard whike snipers and machinegunners try and take pot shots at you beacuse there is nothing els to eat, having to repel attackers with rocks and chairs was nothing like sitting in a trench with a rifle
Losing and retaking the train station 14 times in one day was nothing like figthing for one trench over the course of weeks
>>1006367
>everyday the handle on the human meat grinder turns
>generation after generation of European men sacrificed for meters of barbed wire and landmine rich land
>maneuver through a trench clogged with rotting flesh
>chemical attack begins
>see best friend vomit lungs out into a reddish slime as his skin turns a chemical purple
>lol it's cool because we played soccer one time
>>1006378
And ww2 hade what exactly that even comes close to the Christmas truce?
It dosent really matter what happened after the truce just the fact that people who where trying to kill eachother a few hours ago would bring food and tables into the no mans land and share a meal together then enjoy a game of football makes ww1 imo alot more civil then ww2
>>1006468
Lol faggot you where the one who started talking about manners
And yes you need alot more manners to play a football game with your enemy then you need to refrain from using chemicals
>>1006378
Unless you mean a different event that was the german troops mowing down a british tree as revenge for some bombing or whatever, didnt give me the impression that it was part of some crackdown on friendliness
t. reading the book right now
Thanks Germans for ruining wester civilization and Europe forever for bunch of irrelevant colonies.
>>1006796
Mr. Green?
>>995427
>>995427
>Mfw i read that "thames and the rine" poem for the first time
>>995417
>Can we all agree that WW1 is the most depressing time period in history?
I'd put both world wars on that list. Both changed the entire world and the state of warfare itself. Wouldn't wars be more frequent if it wasn't for nukes?
>>1007637
cont. It's pretty scary to think about it. Countries are on ''peaceful'' terms only because they have weaponry capable of wiping out life on earth. That's just amazing.
>>995427
My dad always said that when I was a kid.
"You get a world war when you don't call your grandmother. Go do it."
>>1004915
>not Austro Hungarian.
You're smoking some seriously wicked kush senpai lemme get a hit of that shihh
>>1006367
The very fact they needed a truce tells you a lot...
>>995417
>>1001244
To buy time to mobilize.
>>1008907
How fucking based can a man be?
>>1008907
How did he know?
>>995451
>tfw in the late 1960's there were still facilities in france being used to treat ww1 ptsd victims.
My mother speaks about the hospice for the "broken faces" time to time.
>>1008955
Not really that hard to predict, considering the Austrians, Russians and Ottomans were fighting for control of the Balkans for literally centuries.
Supposedly not in the skies.
Its fascinating how Aerial Warfare is treated as the last remnant of gallantry and chivalry
>>997870
it is said in surrender runes :
Guillaume the hypocritical smiling at his cousin the Tsar, a few weeks before the war
>>997870
They deserved it 2bh.
>>1009046
honestly that's why women have no business flying combat planes, they have no honor.
>>1002528
That conflict also had the displeasure of the large scale involvement of civilians. The Eastern Front was less of a war and more of a somewhat organized alcohol-fueled orgy of death and destruction across a front over 2000 miles and taking over 30 million lives. It was like the Viking raids of the Middle Ages, except on a massive scale.
WW1 makes me legitimately depressed thinking about it. It may be the single worst thing to happen in all of human history.
>>1002629
>Russia didnt nothing else than back Serbia, an ally of theirs that had been injustly attacked
Serbia was a rogue state terrorist haven and located right in the backyard of Austria-Hungary. Russia was in no position to back Serbia.
>>1011959
It fucked up so many things in so many ways. It ensured the decolonization would be a shitfest, destabilized the global economy, caused the Russian Revolution, led to WWII.....the only arguable benefits were that women's rights came around faster than they otherwise would have, and that racism stopped being publicly acceptable in the West as a result of WWII.
>>1013988
Oh, and global trade only managed to reach pre-WWI levels a few years ago. It literally took a century to undo the economic damage. Imagine where we might be now technologically if it had never happened.
>>1004891
found the JIDF
>>997983
Gib independent flanders blox
>>1002638
We'd be colonizing mars by now...
>>1005410
sauce of that webm? I remember it was some russian comedy show but i can not remember the name
>>1013966
uh huh
