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Thinking about it in depth, it's really quite impressive that the National Socialists were able to turn around Germany's prior economic state and restore it. Barring times of intense war, the people seemed to be happy and full of purpose.

Thoughts?
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sure, as long as you weren't jewish, gypsy, liberal, or gay
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>>9797
Culturally it was impressive, the uniting of a nation. Though, the flaw is that it requires an enemy that's able to strike fear into the populace and unite them.

For the US, it was the commies. Once that faded, so does the country's unison. Though the US did see it briefly after 9/11
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>>9797
>turn around Germany's prior economic state

Stealing shit from everyone that's not german enough for you will do that, but it wasn't sustainable.
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>>9852
>liberal
The Nazis weren't wholly conservative.
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>>9797
>National Socialists were able to turn around Germany's prior economic state and restore it.
Stop with this meme

German economy would've collapsed if it weren't for WWII

Those locusts needed spoils of war to sustain their Greek tier debts
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>>9914

So their stability and readiness to assist the nation was more one of acting out of a sense of urgency?
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Nazi germany was just the US of the 20th century
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>>9852
Well, Hitlers doctor was Jewish...
I'm sure you could do fine being any of those as long as you were in line...
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>>9797
>it's really quite impressive that the National Socialists were able to turn around Germany's prior economic state and restore i

>how to spot a /pol/ user: the post

The economic recovery was inevitable. You can't credit the awfully managed German central economy under the near-civil war ridden group around Hitler.
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>>9962
>>>/pol/

>>9970
they dealt quite harshly with anyone who was outspokenly against their authoritarian rule
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The Nazis "turned the economy around" by printing and borrowing loads of money and then declaring war about a year before they were going to go bankrupt.

Go look up inflation rates in Nazi Germany. It wasn't pretty.

The only reason germans lived so well for most of the war was the Nazis were looting everythng that wasn't nailed down. As soon as food shipments from France, the lowland countries and raw material from the balkans dried up the entire economy went to shit.

Everywhere the Nazi's went productivity massively decreased, especially in areas like the Baltics.
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>>9977
Generally, though it can be from defeating that enemy also. Which is why Americans often flaunt their military history.
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>>10103
How did they build up the warmachine, then? By your logic, they would never have been able to pay it.

Your logic also fails in that the Deuchemark was already massively inflated after the Treaty of Versailles.
No one would have accepted their currency if there wasn't real productivity taking place.
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>>10050
Yes but so we're the communists. Hitler was a fairly liberal person
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Glorious germany is heading back that way. Insert muslim for jew.

Also nigger.
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>>10267
germany will ship the syrians to other countries
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>>9852
Implying anyone, German or otherwise, cared at the time.
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>>10267
Nah Merkel is already kicking germans out of their homes to make room for immigrants.

The next time we need to fight germany again they will be flying the black flag of Islam instead of the swastika.
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>>9904
Are those Roman helmets? Never seen that before.
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>>9976
This. The economy was able to look as if it were recovering because of all the work that was involved in gearing up for war. If WW2 happened a little less than a decade later, they would've crashed again.
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>>9797
Posting in my first Third Reich thread.
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>>9797
A War Machine isn't an economy.
Would have collapsed wihout WW2.
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>>10732

Same. Here; have a propaganda poster.
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>>10789
>A War Machine isn't an economy.

Tell that to the US.
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>>10789
A war machine is absolutely an economy.
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>>10827
Or to any nation for that matter.
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>>9797
Here, have a detailed explanation on how Hitler managed to turn the economy around.
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>>10230
the mark was propped up by international lending in the post-war period to preserve e.g. the gold standard

as for "building up the war machine" what was done was a relatively small buildup of specialized industries like air frames plus massive hidden lending by means of things like mefo bills

you can literally look all of this shit up by reading a single book, which I sense will be a recurring theme of this board
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>>10680
kike detected
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Looks like the mod is really trying to purge all ideas that don't fit the liberal narrative.
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Where were you when the Nazi literally made the first rocket that went to space? Kudos to Goddard for coming up with bretty good rocket design.
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>>10050
Kind of like the /his/ mods, deleting posts like the one you quoted
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>>11269
I do have a fascination with Nazi technology. Despite some of it being impractical, they were certainly ahead of the curve at the time.
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>>11269
>>11508

This I recall hearing, but didn't the nazis have plans for a ship design that looked like a UFO? Or was this conspiratorial hogwash?
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Top 10,000 post

Making /his/tory boys
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>>9852
no gay nazis? rly?
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>>11735
Hitler had Rohm killed during the Night of the Long Knives, remember?
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>>11697
I'm assuming you're referring to this thing? There is no real solid evidence behind it, just rumors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke
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>>11508
Yup, and despite the hate from the reds and Allies, you can't deny both party literally stole most of the German scientist and engineer to cook up their own V2 inspired rockets. Pic related, a modified American V2
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>>11966
*taken from a modified American V2
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>>9797
>it's really quite impressive that the National Socialists were able to turn around Germany's prior economic state and restore it

Germany literally had everything in Weimar thanks to Stresemann. The actual miracle is how can they became an economical power in 10 years after getting fucked in WW2?
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>>11997
See >>10945

And before you call it hogwash, check the sources given in said picture.
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>>12168
>/pol/

What source? I don't have to check anything to know that it's horseshit.
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>>12370
There's several in the picture. Just read it.

But, from a glance, Ellen Brown's Web of Debt, Henry Markow, Henry CK Liu, Sheldon Emry, etc.
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>>9852
>as long as you weren't jewish, gypsy, liberal, or gay

Just the way I like it. Absolutely nothing wrong with any of that. Give me one good reason why any of those kinds of people are desired in your view of society.
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cunt
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>>12478
The sources may be true, but all that "joos did errythang" mentality is simply stupid. Just read Zweig if you want to know about Weimar Germany.
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>>12555
Give us one good reason why a beta neck bearded shitposter should be desired in society faggot.
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>>12681
It's not a "joos did errythang" mentality.

Just read the fucking image. And no, of course I won't believe anything about Weimar "Frankfurt School" germany.
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>>12681
>The sources are right
>But that doesn't mean they are right
What
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>>12555
I'd much have a jew, gypsy, liberal, or gay in my society than a sociopath who judges individuals based on group stereotypes.
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>>12777
Anon has took real facts from those books and created his own fictional history on that picture. It's from /pol/ for god's sake it's not even worth to discuss at.
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>>9797
In a phrase. Nationalism is a hell of a drug.
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>>12915
You haven't even read the picture.

It's not a fictional story. It's a series of quotes from well documented sources.
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>>12915
>The facts are real
>but that doesn't mean they are real
I still don't follow. Do you actually think like this? Honestly?
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>>12915
>it's from /pol
There are poltards who've actually checked sources from stuff they hate like timesofisrael
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>>12915

>it's from /pol/
>that means its not worth my time!!!

fuck off with your intellectual dishonesty.
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>>12734
Kek. Besides a bloated Ad Hominem you've proven my point. Those kinds of people resort to name calling and demonizing if their views aren't agreed with. What are you gonna call me next? A virgin? A racist? A stormfag? Maybe a homosexual?

>>12796
In case you haven't realized for the past couple of years its these same people who have brought down the quality of society and have shit all over our valued traditions. I don't look to stereotypes to further my arguments. I just look at the facts. The left is cancer in its current stage all over the world. Liberals are becoming economically illiterate. Look at Bernie Sander's or Hillary's ideas of government spending or tax policies. Jews....well we all know how they are.
The only real Jew who is aware of the damage some of these Jews do to us is Ben Shapiro. That's someone I'd like in my society thank you very much. Gypsy's well you'd not need to look far to see how disgustingly they treat Europe as their own toilet and thieving ground. Now gays......ok that is a laughable argument. No way I'd want mental disease to be accepted to run rampant in my society.
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>>12964
It's actually a much different reason.

Everybody ITT should really read this >>10945. But, in a nutshell, the government just ignored the bank-provided money, started making its own non-gold-backed (you know, kinda like food stamps, but they counted as a trading currency) money, and employed any german who wanted to work in manual labor, who got paid in those state-issued tickets. After a couple of years of this, and after some trading with neighboring countries, the economy was booming.
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>>12796
>Don't judge a book by it's cover
why do books have covers you fairy?
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>Thread about socialism
>everyone gets buttblasted
>Thread about Nazi Germany
>everyone is calm and agrees

Not that I didn't expect this board to become /pol/2.0
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>>13247
>implying socialism has ever worked
>implying Nazi Germany wouldn't have flourished like mad if it hadn't been for war
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>>13032
I believe those facts in books but i don't believe the author's biased outcome, easy enough /pol/fag?
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>>13247

Nazi Germany has a very significant place in history. Taking one thread and shaping your entire view of this board to be a new /pol/ is fucking stupid and you know it.
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>>10230
The war machine was being built up by the Reichswehr since 1920 in preparation for a war with Poland. The cartels of 1920's Germany had also accelerated armaments production during it's short lived economic boom.
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>>13228

>Everybody ITT should really read this

Why? Only a knuckledragging nazi like you gets impressed by that text.
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>>13791
>Why?
Because it perfectly answers the question in OP?
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Why are Nazis the best soldiers of WW2?
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>>13898

It "answer" OP's question (for you) because it's full of anti-Jewish propaganda and the standard populist garbage bullshit that keeps idiots like you happy.
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>>11966
>V2
V2 was manufactured by slave labor. I wonder how many slaves were used in Sputnik project?
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>>12734
youre right, you shouldnt be desired in society, and you arent.
>>9797
no nation has ever turned itself around so quickly, truly inspiring.
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>>9852
>Jewish
But jews severed in the Wehrmacht
>gypsy
Well tbf everyone hates them
>liberal
You mean communist
>gay
They only removed the promotion of a sick degenerate lifestyle, they didn't gas them
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>>10945

>Hjalmer Schacht
>Rothschild agent

I have never seen an assertion about German economic historical figures as obnoxiously wrong as this in my life.
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>>9797
Bullshit /pol/ thread, but it's easy to move a society towards progression with early stage totalitarian autocratic rule. The Greek tyrants did it much earlier. That said Hitler didn't fix anything, which is why Nazi invasion of Europe was necessary: they had to create a war economy, and try to create a war society from that economy, or they would've been dethroned earlier by popular unrest (the fate of every Greek tyranny).
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>>11791
Not for being gay, for being a potential power threat, and he didn't even want to until he absolutely HAD to
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>>11508
the problem with Nazi tech was that it was grandiose, but not practical.

While the Nazis were trying to invent a superweapon that could turn the war around, the US was inventing more high-performance fuel, better logistics chains, improving tanks based on combat experience, etc.
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>>12478
None of those sources are from journals or other peer-edited sources.

We have:
>Ellen Brown
Web of Debt draws from a few dubious sources and doesn't get a lot of its history correct, incorrectly claiming that money was more "public" in the 18th-19th centuries. She sources things from conspiracy newsletter "Nexus", the American Free Press (successor of Carto's "Spotlight"), and so on.

>Markow
Among other things, Markow claims the Beatles were "Illuminati mind controllers"

>Liu
He's a bit of a mystery. I've never heard of him before, and he seems to be mostly self-published and/or published in Asia Times. Additionally, he's padded his resume and claims to have taught at Harvard, Columbia, etc...

>Sheldon Emry
"Deceitful ministers continue the lie... Roman soldiers killed Christ. This booklet proves ... Jewish Scribes and Pharisees were the murderers of Christ."

I think it's fair to say that none of these sources are particularly reliable. Liu is probably the most reliable simply due to the dearth of information surrounding him and difficulty finding information about him. Brown has gotten a fair amount of criticism for her work, although I would wager that Web of Debt was never intended to be an academic book and instead is intended for a lay public. The other two are quite frankly ludicrous, with connections to extreme-right groups (Emry) and just plain tinfoil-hat theories (Markow).

Part of reading something that sources information is to analyze not only the work itself but also the sources, as the accuracy of those directly affects the accuracy of the thing you're reading.
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When you think about why Germans put the Jews in camps, it is pretty easy to understand.

The NSDAP put the jews in camps for the same reason USA put the Japanese in camps in WW2, Jews were (rightfully) considered the enemies of Germany. German people hated them for what they did to their country, and the NSDAP additionally did not want the Jews sabotaging German efforts, especially as the war started.

Jews backstabbed the German people in WW1 because Britain made a deal with the Rothschilds to establish a home for the Jewish people in Palestine (Israel) in return for the Zionists helping them win the war(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration). Next, the Jews tried to capitalize off the chaos after the war with a communist revolution in 1918 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319), Jews were 9 out of 10 of the leaders of the revolution. The Jews also owned the bank of Germany and caused the hyperinflation by printing money. In 1933, Jews declared a boycott on all German goods(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nazi_boycott_of_1933)

Jews were not innocent in the events around WWII.

I have provided several links to wikipedia to present this proof. I am using wikipedia because it has several more links for each of them. Wiki is a very good(even if it has a liberal bias in most cases), source of condensed information, study what you can find there for yourself to get a better understanding of what happened. Doing your own research on these matters is the best way for you to get an actual understanding of them, and you will know it was not just an opinion I forced on you.

Good luck on your search for the truth behind history. This is only the first step. Finding one truth can lead you onto quite a lot more, and when you examine it all, the story we have all been taught for our entire lives falls apart quickly.
- /pol/itician

ps. have a rare hitler, on the house.
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>>16723

Well, demonstrate why it's wrong, or shut up.
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