Did history vindicate him? Will he ever shake the title of war monger off?
>>972421
I don't know what it's like in other countries but here in the UK the only thing people think about his is "lel rekt", not that he's evil or anything.
Living outside Europe, I never learnt about him in detail. He just seemed to have tried to conquer Europe because it was there.
>>972421
Not as long as the eternal anglo lives
>>972431
He tried to establish constitutional forms of government across Europe and rid Europe of her old aristocracies. Imo that's a quite high cause to fight for.
>19th century
>conquer most of europe
>punishment is being sent on an island vacation
Why didn't they try to string him up as an example?
>>972431
All the wars he waged were defensive wars, the territory he took was to cripple the nations that declared on him every year
>>972421
OP here.
I accidentally posted the wrong picture.
>>972530
Fuck you H-man, this is a Napoopoo thread now.
Vive La France! Vive L'Empereur!
Sorry guys, OP here. I meant to post this picture.
>>972536
>>972515
respect, honour, etc
Sorry guys, OP here. I meant to post this picture.
>>972421
The average Joe, especially in the Anglosphere, still probably thinks of him as a warmonger, even though they don't consider him to be on par with Hitler.
Historians are finally going against the established Anglo propaganda though. Read Andrew Roberts' book.
>>972515
The eternal Anglo considered it, but didn't want to turn him into a martyr. Instead he was condemned to die on an island in the middle of nowhere, far away from the country he helped rebuild.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
Sorry guys, OP here. I meant to post this picture.
He was (and kinda still is) revered in Poland as the great liberator of nations.
>tfw Bonaparte will never teach you by example how you are supposed to win
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR !
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
NAPOOPAN FOREVER
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972668
keep the soul alive.
Here is a different one of Napoopan crossing the alps. Instead of the other famous one.
>>972421
Likely not, face it, the average joe is going to look at the napoleonic wars as a war of French aggression because the basic outline is France vs the world multiple times, and as we all know the only time Europe unites is to defeat big bad evil men.
>>972699
Add to this the fact that Napoleon is the biggest man of the period -and- the guy the world was up against, it's easy to draw the conclusion that he was a big bad evil guy
>>972699
>>972702
Well shiet, Tyrone. Looks like we'll never get to live in an age where truth prevails.
I myself would like a synopsis of his donestic policies. I understand he was hot on personal liberties, but censored the press etc.?
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972519
>t. Roman
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>973953
heh
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>974195
The concentration of executive power into the hands of Napoleon was a response to the aggression of the monarchies of Europe. France had a constitution, setting it apart from many of the absolute monarchies of Europe. Ultimately the Napoleonic Wars accelerated the progress from absolute monarchies to constitutional monarchies and beyond. Napoleon is merely a symbol of that change.
>>972547
vive l'empereur
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972519
t. Pierre
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972515
Did Napoleon execute the rulers who attacked him after he defeated them in the many wars he won?
Nope, so why would the allies go full barbarian with him?
>>972421
As a burger they barely mention him here. Shame the xyz affair happened, we could have been allies with the frogs
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>tfw french education program doesn't have a single chapter on him in any grade
>>972421
Where can I find the memes for this specific picture of Napoleon?
>>974767
The XYZ affair happened because you didnt want to ally yourself to them
That's basically all it was about
I can understand why you pussied out though
Allying yourself with a country at war with the entirety of the most advanced continent of the world isnt the smartest move for a young colonial nation
>>972515
If they kill him they make him a martyr for the revolutionary cause, and the eternal anglo didn't want a repeat of 1649.
Also, it's bad mojo to kill an emperor
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>975205
>Also, it's bad mojo to kill an emperor
Can't let the commoners think leaders are as expendable as they are.
>>972508
it's too bad he went full retard and declared himself emperor.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR!
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>975287
It's not entirely his fault, considering he thought almost everyone around him was incompetent and incapable to lead and only concerned with themselves, there was literally a mini revolution or an attempted one every few months as well for a number of years so he wanted to unify the french instead of it being under a certain party its under a french king with "french" blood.
>>975467
this
france almost had its government collapse after the battle of magenta when they thought napoleon died in battle
>>975482
battle of marengo*
he was a cuck plain and simple
>>975187
Huh, it happened because the diplomats didn't respect us and asked for a bribe. I don't recall reading anything like that. Jefferson seemed like he wanted an alliance but after xyz that wasn't gonna happen. France could have used our navy tho it fuckes up the britbongs good.
What are the best books on Napoleon and the French Revolution?
>>972547
VIVE
L'
EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>974819
I know it fucking sucks
I'm sure it's been like that since Nappy III died off and the republicans decided we had to be unaware of the greatness the Bonaparte's have given our country
>>972547
Vive l'empereur!
>If any of you will shoot his Emperor, here I am.
HOW CAN ONE MAN BE THIS BASED?
>>974819
Why
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972421
How much of a role did the Napoleonic conquests have in the rise of nationalism?
>>975561
Brits are fucking obsessed, holy shit
>>977079
Hugely
>>972421
>Did history vindicate him? Will he ever shake the title of war monger off?
Is this just an issue in Europe? In the Anglosphere hes only known for being a -brilliant general
-being short
-having a fucked hand
and people are already dropping the last two. They dont even know about all the cucking, solidier abandoning and warmongering
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPREREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>976950
That pic makes me tear up, I wish I could have followed napoleon.
The one emperor that cared about his people
>>975808
Andrew Robert's book Napoleon: A Life is pretty good, same as the series by Max Gallo. And if you want to read an account by a soldier in the Napoleonic wars there is the Notebooks of Captain Coignet
>>976950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAHHkF7VbCY
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>976950
>ywn throw yourself before your empereur and offer him your life
ITS
NOT
FAIR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPERUER
>>975287
That was the best part.
>>975287
And did the greatest thing of the 19th century
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
Murrikan here. I love that brilliant little man
>>977994
5'7 isn't little
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>978000
>5'7 isn't little
Nigger, what? I was "5'7 at age 13.
>>978252
Nutrition wasn't as good then. 170cm isn't bad a height in those days. Above average too I think. Plus, you'd always look small if your personal guard of Grenadiers was recruited from the tallest people in France.
Are their any anglos in this thread who are a fan of the French Revolution or are all anglos Eternal Anglos?
>>978303
Yep. Right here, my man.
>>978319
Good to know. I was getting the feeling that all anglos were monarchy apologists.
>>978353
Anglos are people of English descent outside of England. Mainly white Americans. We fucking hate monarchs.
>>978366
Are all brits monarchy apologist and haters of the French Revolution?
>>978381
Yes. Only Brits raised outside of Britain are enlightened.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>973295
From what I understand, he had many of the policies of an enlightened despot, but is not considered such because of how he rose to power and the time in which he ruled.
>>975561
>Dead for almost two centuries
Holy fuck they're desperate.
>>972547
VIVE L`EMPEREUR
>>972547
Long live the King
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>978366
>Americans
>hate monarchs
bwah? Americans are obsessed with monarchy.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>978590
Do you not hate monarchs?
>>972421
>Will he ever shake the title of war monger off?
No. Why would he? A warmonger is exactly what he was.
Not that there's anything bad with it, it's not like he pulled a Hitler.
>>978604
Americans, in general, do not hate monarchs. They're romanticized as fuck in America, by historians and regular people alike. Namely because they don't live in a country that is ruled by monarchs or otherwise is expected to pay for the burden of their lavish lifestyles.
>>978590
Americans hate monarchs. British is seen as backward fire being a monarchy, even if it is in name only.
>>978615
>monarchy is popular in the USA today
t. your ass
>>977252
?
There's nothing wrong with his hands, I've never heard anyone suggest otherwise.
Pop history is absolutely obsessed with his height though.
>>978627
>Namely because they don't live in a country that is ruled by monarchs or otherwise is expected to pay for the burden of their lavish lifestyles.
I'd rather my taxes go to Lizzie (God Save Her) than to shitters who need their stomach pumped.
>>978615
Let's be honest, a lot of the who started what is pointless and we both know it.
The fact is that Napoopan exploited the continent's situation to go full imperialism on Europe. He wasn't defending himself, he was unapologetically trying to conquer the continent.
>>978590
They're obessed in the way people are obessed with puppies or quaint little cottages.
>>978654
The Queen of England gets her stomach pumped in the privacy of her own castle, thank you very much.
>>978659
He was trying to consolidate his gains and start a dynasty
When he was attacked over and over again, he took things from the people he defeated to weaken them in the case of them attacking him again
>>978650
The whole royal baby thing was huge in the states lad
There's even a fucking reality TV show about a fake english royal family in the US now
>>978653
Some people (for no real reason) believe that his hand must be fucked up since he always put it in his coat
>>978685
>When he was attacked over and over again, he took things from the people he defeated to weaken them in the case of them attacking him again
Plus you know, Venice, Spain, bits of Germany. Tried to get Portugal for obviously aggressive reasons too.
Not that it matters, the fact that he tried to impose his dynasty through war is enough to brand him as a warmonger anyway.
I mean, it's not a bad thing, this kind of stuff was still ok at the time.
>>978685
>The whole royal baby thing was huge in the states lad
No it wasn't.
Also tabloids printing shit about politically entitled celebrity families in different countries because there is nothing better to feed the celebrity obsess masses is not vote of confidence in a form of government.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
![Marquis_de_Lafayette_3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HKSydpI.jpg "Marquis_de_Lafayette_3[1].jpg")
>>978685
>Some people (for no real reason) believe that his hand must be fucked up since he always put it in his coat
That's just moronic, the hand-in-coat pose was a very common portrait trope in the 18th and 19th centuries.
>>978750
Yeah, people are just retardos
>>978743
I'm not saying that people support a monarchistic form of government you fucking downie
You said that monarchy wasn't popular i the United States
It is
Also, you saying "The royal baby wasn't big in the US!" is just you being a fucking retard and refuting something that actually happened because you're an autist on an anime forum pretending you're an 18th century Republican
>>976950
OH MY GOD NAPOLEON, YOU CAN FUCK MY BITCH NAPOLEON.
>>978781
Monarchy is a form of government. Don't blame me for you suck at English. You meant royalty, and even of you had said royalty you'd still be missing the point.
>>978858
I said THE monarchy. As in, the British royal family.
>people were alright with the monarchy and its pretty popular in america today
>the monarchy and its pretty popular in america today
Learn to read, Robespierre
>>972421
France have not so much persons for admire. Emperor Napoleon is an idol in France.
>>979098
>yfw you realize Napoopan isn't even a national hero in France
I mean ok, he was italian born, but surely he was more relevant than Vercingetorix and Joan of Arc, come on.
>>972515
It was taboo to kill leaders of countries in Europe. Most heads of state that were defeated were exiled, not executed.
That's why king Louis xvi's execution shocked the rest of Europe.
The coalition wanted to show they weren't barbaric like the French rebels from the reign of terror
>>979112
On the one side you have the reactionaries who don't like the revolution and anything it stands for, and on the other you have the left who feel uneasy about praising an"""tyrant""" and military ruler, when they don't also outright reject the Revolution as a bourgeois coup. You end up left with the right and the centre, but the right would rather circlejerk about De Gaulle for all eternity as he was democratically elected, and the center is barely relevant.
Even the sovereignist parties don't mention him as his European ideals don't fit their "muh nation states" narrative.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
Vive L'Empereur
>>979087
Joseph Bara ;^)
>>972515
Can't let the commoners think they can just up and kill heads of state. They might get ideas.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR!
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>979260
He should have been called Shota rather than Bara tbqh
>>978697
>Plus you know, Venice, Spain, bits of Germany.
>Plus
Why "plus"?
All those are things he took from the people he defeated to weaken them in the case of them attacking him again
This thread made me realize I know absolutely nothing about Napoleon.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
FUCK GREEN JACKETS
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
vive l'emperur
>>979356
no
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
He's loved here, because his administration was the first time we were allowed to use our langugae in schools and in public matters.
>>977079
For Italy, Germany, Poland, Slovenia-Croatia it had a direct and extremly important role.
It had an indirect but still importnat effect on basically all Slavic nations between Germans and Russians (except Serbs, who do shit their own way).
Indirectly it also helped ram in nationalism in Spain, Denmark and Sweden.
And yeah huge influnece in France obviously.
>>972547
Vive L'Empereur
>>978565
DELET THIS
>>978685
Literally the only people in America who are interested in the British royals are sad, lonely middle aged women and gay men. And even then they're only into the royal wedding because it allows them to vicariously live out the 'pretty princess finding her prince' fantasy they've been obsessed with since their first Disney film
>>975561
>/pol/io continues to obsess over this word
>>975561
How?
>>975561
Now this is pathetic
>>982623
Because Josephine cheated on him.
And because of this fact, somehow everything else he accomplished is undeserving of respect.
This is how these imbeciles operate
>wow, Ghengis Khan sure did a lot to change history.
>but he was a cuck doe kek
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>975561
Every single time
>le small pee pee
These "historians" are fucking autists I swear
>>982709
10/10 image
>>972421
Napoleon WAS a warmongering dictator. What I would like, though, is for people to actually see him in context with the French Revolution, which indirectly led to his rise. Because the French Revolution wasn't nearly as good as people like to pretend it is.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>982740
Napoleon wasnt warmongering untilm the end of hos reign
As for being a dictator, it's not like being democratic was the trend back then
Most of his opponent were way more tyrannical than him (Tsar Alexander, Austrian emperor, Prussian king...)
>>975561
>Brits being this booty blasted 201 years later
>>975561
>2 century old shrivelled up cock
>"dude LOOK AT HOW TINY THIS CORSICANS COCK IS DUDE LMAO HES SO SHORT LOL WHO CARES THAT HE DOMINATED THE EUROPEAN CONTINENT FOR 20 YEARS HES SO SHORT DUDE xD"
>>972547
Vive l'empereur!
>>972547
Vive L'empreur
>>975561
>muh dick muhfugga
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
History test tomorrow
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
Fuck off you midget nigger give us back zakynthos
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972519
This is true. Britain couldn't stand to let another power challenge them, so they orchestrated multiple wars against him.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L' EMPEREUR
>>978816
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR !
>>972530
>>972530
hahahahaha /his/ rekt
anti hitlers BTFO
>>972547
VIVE L`EMPEREUR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SHkx9A9488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqdxBh4ZUeM
I tear up everytime to the child and the three warriors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chant_du_d%C3%A9part
Looking at the lyrics is a bit surrealist, how passionate they are about liberty, yet the common man is no more than a tool for his country
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>978750
> the hand-in-coat pose was a very common portrait trope
Its a Masonic gesture.
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>991834
YOU'RE a Masonic gesture
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPEREUR
>>972547
VIVE L'EMPERUER
>>972547
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