To deal with high, heavy armor, what is better an axe or a mace?
Assume the weapon to be used with a shield and the user to be recently trained, strong and use heay armor himself.
Obviously, medierval settings, prove your claims .
Too many factors. Clarify time period and what you mean by heavy armor which with the previous bit can be anything from a gambeson and mail to lamellar to plate harnesses.
Also why a shield? Once armor advanced, shields fell out of favor heavily with people that could afford that armor in preference of more devastating weapons, starting with the dane axe and going into two handed warhammers, the pollax, halberds, etc.
Seems like an odd question.
Consider the bill-hook, stilletto pairing.
Most heavily armored knights would be mounted in a realistic setting, and so the first step is to get them off their horse, and preferably on their backs.
To do this the English employed the billhook. Similar to a halberd but lighter and consisting of several bird-bill like hooks, it was used not to damage the heavy armored opponent but snag on his helmet, armor, or strappings and read him down or tangle him.
They would then finish the job with a thin dagger through the eye visor, or between the plates in the armor into the heart.
Neither. For heavy armor you want to use piercing weapons.
Proof:
P = F/A.
You can use axe as a mace but not the other way around. Axe wins
>>1148494
axe
>plate
blunt shit
>>1148777
How come poleaxes were vastly more used than estocs then ?
(ok it's because a poleaxe can cut, pierce and bash but then)
>>1148494
>To deal with high, heavy armor, what is better an axe or a mace?
If you mean plate armor like late medieval stuff, then a mace is your only realistic option. Even better would be a polaxe or a military pick.
If you mean chainmail, then an axe is a better pick, the impact from a mace would be dampened by the mail and the padding under it while an axe has the profile to embed itself in the person.
>>1150671
You can fuck up a cunt in mail with bladed weapons provided you have the right blade geometry.
Fucking Celts knew this and so did Romans, Medieval people, Middle Easterners, and the Chinese.
>>1150716
Because not everyone wore heavy armor. If you're up against an unarmored guy, a blunt object is a pretty poor weapon.
>>1148494
Mace is typically a one handed weapon used on horseback
Axe or more specifically a pollaxe is used with two hands on foot.
Fuck shields, we're wearing plate armor.
>>1150740
Mail plus padding can stop a dagger though, we certainly have accounts of that.
http://www.deremilitari.org/RESOURCES/SOURCES/bouvines5.htm
>>1148494
>mfw I BTFO both axefags and macefags with my warhammer
One end for blunt, one end for spike, and another spike at the top for more stabby-stabby. More versatile.
>>1150803
So you want a pollhammer?
Good choice m8
