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Heh.
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>>969520

They're all English by descent because all of those monarchs are descended from Alfred.

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>>969550
>English by descent
>this is what the English tell themselves
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House of Lancaster was English. At least culturally and linguistically.
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>>969550
Is there a more cucked man than an Englishman?
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>English kings don't mind their German heritage and actively seek to marry princes and princess to German dittos
>Throws everything into the trashcan as ww1 starts
Why does the German have to ruin everything for themselves? They used to be able to feel kinda proud about having a dynasty with a German name at the English throne.
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>>969599
Even the language is more French then Germanic, so I doubt it.
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>>969588
Except it's the blood that counts
At least that's what an Englishman will tell you if you ask him whether the Normans were French or "vikings"
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>>969520
Why the hell would anyone want to be the king of English people? The English know what's up.
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>>969659
what?
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>>969691
It's just a Butthurt Aryan.
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>>969701
>its either a German or a French guy
>has to be!
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>>969820

If we're tracing lineage and not place of birth, the Capet dynasty was Belgian. Hugh Capet was descended from the Robertians, who were from Belgium.

No Brythonic Kings of England. No Gallic Kings of France, No Celtiberian Kings of Spain.
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>>969820
I said Aryan, which means it may be Russian, Polish or maybe even Iranian..
We Anglos have been waging a war against them since the dawn of time.
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>>969520
But King William the 3rd was Dutch. Not Scottish.
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Canute and his sons were not English. They were Danes.
Henry II was as Norman as one can be. His father raised him as a good Norman boy.
The Tudors were English, culturally.
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>>970117
Weren't the Robertians German, before coming to France?
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>>970276
Wasn't Henry II from the Loire Valley? He'd be purely French.
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ft4u
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>>969599
>Cucked
did you mean confused or unfortunate?
embarassing tbqh senpai
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>>969612
we've already had that thread
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>>970302
Change Lancaster and York to English as well. Henry IV spoke English as his first language and at court and in personal correspondence.
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>>969612
But that's not true.
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>>970301
His mother was a Norman and his father made sure he would be raised as a Norman. He got Norman tutors and all that for his son, since he knew that Normandy and England were a better inheritance than his county.

An interesting fact is that Henry II's parents hated each other (his mother was the widow of an older, powerful Holy Roman Emperor, then she had to remarry a guy much younger than herself who was only a Count, his father was also not thrilled to marry a woman that was much older than himself), but they did a nice job securing their son his inheritance. His father spent his energy getting Normandy and his mother getting England.
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>>970282
In the same vein as the Franks in General, but the specific family line is descended from a county in what would become Belgium
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>>970302
Who the fuck classes Oliver Cromwell as a Monarch, and Who Classes the Danes as English. They're Anglo-Norse at closest. Canute was not a Saxon. Come on, they deserve their own section.
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>>970302
tudors were welsh
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>>970318
Except it is.
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>>970399
Welsh in origin but the family that ruled England was English. Genetics doesn't matter.
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>>970399
The Welsh don't exist
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>>970318
Old English literally decayed grammatically by the point onwards when the Normans took England. Its estimated over 10,000 to 12,000 French words segued their way into the "modern" English language at that point onward as time passed.

Even word order in English is taken from French.
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>>970413
Well henry vii spent almost all his time in France before becoming king, and he was said to be culturally french and more comfortable speaking french than speaking english. Does that make him French?
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>>970413
>Genetics doesn't matter.
But they do, or it wouldn't be a field of study.
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>>970318
Unfortunantly, it is
Look at that pic
Even the few words we have in common with the German sentence are Romance ones
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>>970831
The grammar is more similar to german which makes english more similar to german
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>>970480
>Old English literally decayed grammatically by the point onwards when the Normans took England.

It's cause so many of the literate Anglo-Saxon nobility died at Hastings, and that since because their wives took up with the Franco-Norman conquers, their children spoke French.
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