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What are some essential or recommended reading for Roman History?
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What are some essential or recommended reading for Roman History?
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Not that.
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>>958807
Why, and what do you suggest in its place for Late Roman history?
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>>958815
He was a rabid anti-Catholic who claimed that evil Christianity destroyed Rome and plunged the world into a thousand years of Dark Ages, a view universally rejected by any serious historians today.
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>>958828
well he's right somewhat
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>>958828
>Religious precepts are easily obeyed which indulge and sanctify the natural inclinations of their votaries; but the pure and genuine influence of Christianity may be traced in its beneficial, though imperfect, effects on the barbarian proselytes of the North. If the decline of the Roman empire was hastened by the conversion of Constantine, his victorious religion broke the violence of the fall, and mollified the ferocious temper of the conquerors

Even if we say you're 100$ correct on that point, does this disqualify the rest of the book? It utilizes plenty of primary sources, the records of the Church of the time were far less objective and reacted rabidly to criticism from anyone, like Gibbon.
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Why do fedoras always look so punchable?

>his name is Emily
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>>958779
Turchin is my favourite, though more general:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0452288193/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0452288193&linkCode=as2&tag=charleshughsm-20&linkId=5SB7PGXVREXQEDYI

Also good:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300164262/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0300164262&linkCode=as2&tag=charleshughsm-20

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0760769990?ie=UTF8&tag=charleshughsm-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0760769990
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>>958828
>who claimed that evil Christianity destroyed Rome
Its true though, christianity removed emperor worship and provided no incentive to keep the "worldly" empire going.

>rejected by any serious historians today
Every history of rome is based on gibbons work, because to used the primary sources
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Aside from his anti-clerical bias, his historical prose is unmatched and he still had some things to contribute.

Though the idea of Christianity destroying the Empire itself is bullshit because:

>How come the Christian East survived just fine until Islam?
>How come there were plenty of Christian Empires afterward that worked fine on less infrastructure?
>It was the church that performed the basic functions of the Roman Government after it fell, effectively continuing the Roman tradition parallel to the 'Barbarian' Kings.
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>>959003
>Every history of rome is based on gibbons work, because to used the primary sources
Are you trying to be retarded?
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>>958779
What's the best biography of Augustus?
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>>959003
>provided no incentive to keep the "worldly" empire going

Give people power and wealth and they'll fight to protect it. Do you really think the Roman army were fighting for God Emperor Augustus when madmen and dribbling cuckholds wore the purple?
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Twelve Caesars
Plutarch's Lives
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>>958828
Your religious views get in the way of your rating of this book.
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>>959042
Rome was a one party fascist state, christians decided they wouldnt belong to the party (the imperial cult)
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the gallic wars by yulios kaisar

http://classics.mit.edu/Caesar/gallic.mb.txt
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