Forget existence and morality. What religion/sect had the greatest A E S T H E T I C S? Post examples or religious buildings you just like.
Pic related, this is Wat Arun of Buddhism.
>>947369
>religious buildings you just like
Oh and you can post religous sculptures and paintings too
Orthodox is trippy
>>947369
The picture doesn't do it justice. It's a truly massive and imposing structure when seen in person.
Zoroastrianism and Shinto imo
>>947369
Catholicism.
The one true religion, inspired a entire civilization's greatest works of architecture and art.
Even though modern Catholic churches today have been wreckovated to look more Protestant, there are still a lot out there that are just simply breathtaking.
This is Hōryū-ji, also of Buddhism
>>947403
In contrast to the exterior, the interior is very smooth, with very nice stain-glass windows that cast light on the giant chamber.
>>947378
Nobody does religious statuary like the Buddhists.
>>947406
Shit religion.
Great churches.
I can't think of another building style before the age of mass produced iron and steel that I like nearly as much as gothic cathedrals.
>>947403
I first saw it on my first trip out of the USA when I was 17, middle of the night, no one around. First thing I saw walking out of the metro station. I just sat there in my duffel bag and just stared at it. As a history and architecture fan I was very moved seeing it in person
> not building your capital on a lake
>>947455
oops forgot pic
>>947456
>>947406
>wreckovated
Eh, in a lot of places there is a movement to get back to the roots.
Catholic churches in Italy that are full of Byzantine influences are my personal favourite.
>>947448
Barcelona is a beautiful city. At least the older parts. The newer areas reminded me of Peru.
Catholicism
aesthetics of other faiths are mere coincidence
nothing will match Catholicism
>>947508
>that creepy af ugly modernistic piece of shit
Not really representative of good aesthetics. The Paul VI Entrance Hall in general is fucking hideous
The thing with Catholicism is that their aesthetics are either 10/10 raise-your-eyes-towards-the-heavens-tier or sterile and soulless shit like this
catholic churches are boring desu, im with op on this one, hindu/buddhist architecture is underrated as fuck
>>947534
>>947528
>Not really representative of good aesthetics
>>implying
its a great representation of the mixture of both fear and wonder that one gets in sight of God, its inherently inhuman which only further emphasizes the power of the Lord
Orientals have zero variety or development in their architecture, nothing comparable to the light and space and high ideals espoused by Catholic architecture and sculpture
>>947552
Illuminati confirmed
>>947552
That cathedral is ugly tho
>>947552
...the fuck is that?
>>947552
>Orientals have zero variety or development in their architecture
ure an idiot desu, please stop posting
>>947552
No seriously what the fuck is that
That looks uncanny and unsettling as hell
>>947698
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathedral_of_Christ_the_Light
>>947712
>this is a 10/10 in modern Catholicism
Those words and that font look out of place as fuck
>>947732
>175 million dollars to build that lifeless husk
Pic related, a postmodern cathedral done right
>>947750
This time with the pic
>>947755
Yea, this one is so much better
Bump
The Temple of Heaven, of Taoism
>>947403
I love it. Shame that style never became bigger.
>>949606
Westminster abbey.
less is more
>>949735
>>947369
Heathenry with out idolatry.
>>949770
Yeah, their temples are awesome!
>>949770
>>949776
The Father built them.
>>947534
india borrowed alot of arcitecture from the romans didnt they
>>950734
is this bait?
Moor architecture is quite amazing
>>950868
This. I think that the Moors deserved to have a "revival" WAY more than Gothic did. Imagine the powerful symbolism of a Moorish skyscraper, a real dedication to the labor and engineering might of collective man. Gothic skyscrapers just kind of miss the point of the style, which was to emulate height without being able to actually make something huge. Once you make a skyscraper it loses a lot of the meaning. It's like the difference between a slice of cake and the whole thing.
Personally my favorite religious style is Byzantine Revival because it can take advantage of the power of industry to create meaning relevant to the architectural style.
Not to sound like an edgy fedora-tipper here, but don't these decadent architectural styles fly in the face of Jesus' ascetic message?
>use engineering accomplishments of pagan Romans
>claim Christianity should have credit for it
wew
>>951345
If you haven't noticed by now, Christians pride themselves by removing themselves as far away from the message of their holy book as possible, because after all, how could capitalism continue to function if you actually took Jesus' word?
>>951345
The last Christian died on the cross
>>951390
How does that make sense as a criticism? The question concerns who uses the style, not necessarily who developed it.
Also ancient cultures don't take the credit for developments that occurred in other cultures, even the new idea is rooted in their inventions.
>>951417
>>951345
In the case of Christians I think they are far gone enough that they get a pass. It is worth appreciating that all of these styles came into existence because of the need to strike strong emotions- in many ways unique to Christianity- into anyone entering their buildings. So I would argue that they sre "Christian," at least insomuch as thry adopt some Christian values and define the faith.
>>951515
Well, the third commandment literally says that you can't make any graven images, and that's conspicuously never mentioned anymore by any established Church, or when it is mentioned, they try to explain it away by some bullshit theology.
>>951468
It's a criticism of anyone who thinks their religion deserves credit for the culture and technology they appropriated. If you don't think that then there isn't a problem.
>>951417
Jesus taught parables that commended people for taking their money into the market and doubling it.
Your version of Jesus sucks.
>>951345
>>951550
>Jesus taught parables that commended people for taking their money into the market and doubling it.
Quit arguing and just keep posting architectural photos you autists, that's not the point of this thread
>>951528
I agree entirely. My point is just that enough of the sects of Christianity have deviated from the bible that it's a bit of a non-point to mention their gaudy architecture. The buildings do, however, represent something distinctly Christian, and for the purposes of this thread I think that's all that really matters.
>>951569
This is the internet you sperg. You can't have a thread in the periphery of religion, and not have it derail to religion.
>>951528
Just because you're not capable of understanding theology doesn't mean it's wrong
>DUDE WHY DON'T CHRISTIANS FOLLOW MY SHITTY MODERN INTERPRETATION WITH NO MERIT IN EARL CHRISTIANITY XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-I8RPHwTY
>>951545
Which item in the thread are you talking about, just out of curiosity? The Byzantine revival?
>>951569
That's pretty sexy. Is that a post-modern Hindu temple?
>>951565
Yeah. Jesus didn't tell every christian to get rid of all their money. Just one young rich Jewish ruler.
Job was rich.
Abraham was rich.
David was rich.
Solomon was insanely rich.
A rich guy gave Jesus his tomb.
There's nothing wrong with being rich; there's something wrong with worshiping Mammon.
>>951599
It's for the Bahá'í Faith
>>951565
Literally the parable of the talents.
>>951615
Holy shit thank you anon. These buildings are gold
>>951584
What the fuck does this video prove?
That Divine Command theory is true?
>I said X is wrong
>But I can command you to do it later
Okay, if this is the case, point to where in the Bible god commands his followers to create a billion dollar corporation and the Vatican?
>>951662
Oh I see you just ignore the entire thing
>>951676
No, I didn't ignore anything, as my answer clearly illustrates.
>>951699
Your answer demonstrates perfectly that you ignored it.
>X is not to be done for reason demonstrated here
>This reason no longer applies
>Therefore X is fine to do
Go rewatch it.
>>951719
>>951707
>this reason no longer applies
This same "reason" is the same theological flapdoodle argument that you can use for anything relating to the Old Testament.
>Jesus came
>Therefore anything in the Old Testament is no longer valid
So, murder is alright now then, since the 3rd Commandment does no longer hold?
>>951731
Go rewatch it autist
>>951756
I did, but you're still not responding to any of my criticisms.
Unlike you, I'm not using Youtube videos to argue for me, sperg.
>>951787
Except your criticism is "DOOD IT"S FLAPDDODLE"
Literally says exactly what it was faggot
>x shouldn't be done because reason
>reason no longer applies
>so x is fine
And no the 3rd commandment still counts
Statues in churches just aren't graven images
>>947403
>100+ years and counting to finish construction
Mediterranean work ethics, ladies and gentlemen. This would be finished by 20 years in Germany.
>>951808
>Statues in churches just aren't graven images
Because of some theological flapdoodle, that suits them because they like their idols.
I mean, Catholics literally *pray* to the statues of saints, if that's not idolatry, than what is?
Face it, they have just found a justification for continuing to do something that they know is wrong, but they want to have e.g cafeteria Catholics.
Not impressive.
>>951838
>theological flapdoodle
Fuck off autist
>I mean, Catholics literally *pray* to the statues
No they don't
>>951847
>No they don't
Yes, they do. They even wear the torture device that killed Jesus around their neck.
>>947732
Reminds me of Diablo 2 wells.
Gulp
Gulp
>>951854
No they don't anon
>dude le torture device maymay XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHQP8INrV7M
>>951813
>This would be finished by 20 years in Germany
Yeah but then it would be used as a mosque
>>951882
Also some more content for OP's thread
>>951813
The Germans have no experience with buildings of this height.
Spire Height of Sagrada Famillia: 560 ft
Height of tallest building under construction in Germany: 459 ft
>>951882
>No Christian wears a Cross around the neck
toplel
>>951900
Doesn't mean they wouldn't finish it faster. Those Spanish workers probably take 5-year long siestas every lunch.
>>951903
Go back and watch the video
There's a reason Christians wear crosses
But you remind me of the YEC Prot who deliberately ignores any arguments against his already held beliefs so there isn't really any point in responding to you
>>951933
It's ironic you say that, because you are literally unwilling to concede a single point I've said, you just post videos of people talking for you, as if you don't have a single original thought in your head.
But it's fine, I'm done with you anyway.
>>951954
>you are literally unwilling to concede a single point I've said
Because they're all baseless and without merit
And my videos are far more than you gave :^)
>>951978
OP here, please don't.
>>951601
>Job was rich
And he got his life turned upside down by God for the lulz.
>>951644
Dat filename. Kek
I'll have to give it to Cucktolicism. But it is more due to the European spirit than an something intrinsical to the religion. See Pagan Greece, Rome, Lascaux cave paintings, etc. for proof. In short, everything Europeans do is god-like.
>>952664
But South, East and South East Asian architecture is also amazing.
Some of the Mormon temples are pretty dope
>>952758
Meant to post this angle, shows the layout a bit better.
>>952763
Looks like a twin version of the cathedral of Stormwind. Also RIP Nost.
Catholic Baroque, Cambodian Buddhist, Burmese Buddhist, Indian Hindu, Catholic Gothic, Catholic Romanesque, Greco-Roman Classical, Christian Neoclassical, I love it all I cannot choose my favorite.
>>947369
I'm quite the fan of Scandinavian stave churches.
I'm not quite sure why, maybe because it looks like a cross between a cathedral and a viking great hall, or maybe because all the wood makes it look very cozy.
Levantine, especially Maronite Churches have a kind of vibe that feels ancient and "as days of Christiantiy".
>>953098
>>953101
you can see that the Orthodox that wanted to proselytize wanted to impress by their wealth, whereas Maronites have this monastic beauty to their churches.
It's just so wierd.
I can't even think of anything close.
>>953120
I hate your opinion
>>952758
>>952758
>>952758
>>956357
>>956390
Roman Paganism
>>947369
>A E S T H E T I C S
Mary worship, or waifuism in its modern incarnation, which is what birthed vaporwave culture.
>>957261
>That's kitschy as fuck tho
"Kitsch" is what the terminally ironic call sincerity.
>>951885
>>951813
>implyiong the Gertmans are any better
6 centuries under construction, yo
>>947403
>the anarchists showed bad taste in not blowing it up when they had the chance
It's fucking hideous
>>947398
>kremlin
>>947403
I was really really unimpressed by the SF when I was there. It's just a big ugly thing. Like some confused Art Deco Gothic Brutalist clusterfuck.
>>952017
>evolution is a myth debunked by Kent Hovind
>Kent Hovind
>mfw people like you exist
>>947398
>kremlin
>>950769
no, indians were barbars who were civilized by the turks and then the british
>>952782
>Nostalrius is dead
I'm crying
I always liked the fact that the temple exteriors showed all forms of daily life but the victorians focused only on the sex
>>959666
Its alright satan.
>>957934
No, kitsch is what people call perfectly good statues of Christ surrounded by tacky space wallpaper
>>959049
>Implying that that was consistent construction and not phases of development with each completed part being a satisfying conclusion
>Implying that even though the Germans built their works in time frames comparable to other countries, that somehow negatively compares to a modern-day hundred year project where buildings ten times its size can be completed in a tenth of the time
>>947440
I agree. Stone architecture. Them pyramids are crazy too and are essentially temples of the sun god
>>957934
Kitch means junk. It's the residual exponent of materialism and conspicuous consumerism
>>951564
>no replies
Typical. Thanks for that.
>>947552
>its a great representation of the mixture of both fear and wonder that one gets in sight of God, its inherently inhuman which only further emphasizes the power of the Lord
Just come out and admit you worship Cthulhu already.
>>960400
>>960414
>>960400
>Stephen de Staebler did the sculptures
What the fuck?
What's next? A church decorated by H.R. Giger and Wayne Barlowe?
>>960436
This looks like a House Dagoth enemy from Morrowind.
Hellenism
>greek
>roman
>renaissance
>enlightenment
Everything inbetween or abroad is darkness.
This place in Indonesia's pretty weird, but nice.
>>960597
If it was painted anew, it'd look like it came out of a Final Fantasy game.
>>952830
Reminds me of Thailand more than anything
>>947552
That looks something out of science fiction
>>960597
what is even worshipped there?
>>960744
Christianity if I remember correctly.
The guy who made it said he was given a message from god to build it.
>>947369
>>947534
>>947544
For some reason structures that don't have an exterior are offputting for me.
It just takes large part of the beauty away.
Like magnificent as they are, you can't even take shelter from rain in them.
That's also why I don't find the pyramids very intriguing despite understanding what a feat they were.
>>960791
you can take shelter in them.
Danmahurianism
http://www.thetemples.org/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ieW-FcCs8
>>952830
>or maybe because all the wood makes it look very cozy.
Yes, very.
>>960801
Yeah, in a small room or a corridor. But most of it is just dead mass, added for extra height/size.
It's probably just a personal thing of mine.
>>960085
sure thing buddy.
>>949556
This is just a rubbish version of picture attached
>>960848
the interiors are spacious enough. Not cathedral tier though
>>952830
I think it's the layers. I also like oriental temples and shit in China and Japan.
>>963889
It's like you didn't bother to read the Wikipedia page
>what kinda temple you want senpai?
>just fasc my shit up
>>952830
>mfw
>>951345
How the fuck are renaissance cathedrals decadent?
>>965060
probably talking about the baroque ones
>>957908
And that might only be the tip of the iceberg for pagan art, since most of it has been lost.
Pic related was reused as a pedestal for a pillar in the Istanbul cistern.
>>951345
>but don't these decadent architectural styles fly in the face of Jesus' ascetic message?
The Temple of Jerusalem built by Herod was massive and extravagant. Yet, Christ taught within its walls, and even praised a women for giving away a great portion of her wealth towards its collections. This gives an implicit acceptance and condoning of building mighty Temples in the name of God. Secondly, in the Old Testament it is God who seeks to have the Ark built to house his Commandments, which was not exactly cheap, and it was God who sought to have the First Temple built.
>>950734
Lol nah. Indian culture diverged from European culture during the time of Proto-Indo-Europeans
I've always been partial to minimalism, so things like Zen temples are always super A E S T H E T I C to me.
Iconography is fine, so long as it's not overdone and is subtle in use.
>>965051
ha
>>947552
>vagina cathedral
orientals are so architecturally deficient they have to destroy roman palmyra, because they are unable to build anything other than tents near their camels
>>947552
>Orientals have zero variety or development in their architecture
>I'm a dumb catholic talking about subjects I have zero knowledge of
>>950734
no
>>957908
This
>>966780
You retard, they're making fun of the file name. Also the file name is probably from a website with a compilation of photos of sites in the Kremlin. Furthermore, saying St. Basil's is the Kremlin is like saying the Washington monument is the Mall, not the White House.
Well they were influenced by Hellenistic presence in the Indus.
>>960421
>>960414
>>960400
>>947528
Ah yes, Our Lady of the Angels. I would recognize my cathedral anywhere. Can't believe they spent millions on that trash.
>>947461
>larry you built our ENTIRE CITY ON A LAKE
>COME ON, LARRY
>"sorry, man"
Call me a weeb, but i love these shinto gates.
>>971270
weeb
