Redpill me on the Spanish Civil War, I only have a cursory understanding of it.
1. Was it just a conflict about monarchy vs. republic, or was it deeper?
2. What were the different factions on the republican side, and was one faction dominant over the others? Were the nationalists divided as well?
3. Why did the nationalists ultimately win?
>Why did the nationalists ultimately win?
Because the reds were complete morons who had poor organization and in the end their little commie experiment collapsed on itself.
It's kind of funny that the leftists always preach MUH UNITY, yet they tend to atomize into ten gorillion different groups that always cannibalize each other.
>>942298
>3. Why did the nationalists ultimately win?
Because anarchists can't run a government and the Republicans couldn't raise support after the anarchists and communists gunned down priests and blew up churches.
/pol/ with dates everybody
>>942347
>Everyone I don't like is /pol/
>>942348
if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck and rapes corpses like a duck
>>942355
>debate
>>942357
Right, you aren't debating, you're just shitposting.
>>942363
nice self-awareness kiddo
>>942365
>calling me kiddo
>is likely less than 25 years old himself
>>942371
it's pretty immature to think that age means maturity kiddo
>>942377
You are young and likely even French, stop talking to me like you're my equal.
>>942383
I never talked to you like you're my equal, I talked to you like you're below me
which is true by the way
>>942386
Which is biologically impossible considering you're French. Literally bottom of the barrel.
>>942392
what does this have to do with the Spanish Civil War?
>>942298
>1. Was it just a conflict about monarchy vs. republic, or was it deeper?
It has nothing to do with that
The so-called "german bombardment of spanish cities" is a hoax btw
Here are the two sides:
-Republicans: democrats, anarchists (biggest group in Catalonia) and communists (who during the war greatly increased their influence due to the help of the Soviets)
-Nationals: fascists, monarchists, traditionalists/conservatives catholics
Franco won because he had the professional military on his side, he didn't allowed internal fights like the ones that were happening on the Republican side and he had powerful military support from Italy (ground troops and weapons) and Germany (air force and weapons).
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>>942298
>Was it just a conflict about monarchy vs. republic, or was it deeper?
It was deeper.
Newly elected socialist government was very tolerant to FAI and anarchists started to make their dream come true, too bad part of that dream was to remove Church from the country(as they saw it as a supporter of all the bad guys they've just got rid off). Now conservatives of every sort would have accepted socialist government, they may have swallowed the bitter pill of having part of their wealth collectivised since they wouldn't get popular support if they'd stand up to, but Church was both hated and loved so it gave them a platform to start sort-of coup which ended up in civil war.
>2. What were the different factions on the republican side, and was one faction dominant over the others?
Major factions could be described as market liberals, social democrats, stalinists, leninists and anarchists. With several different parties here and there(most notably Catalonia had its own stalinist and anarchist party/trade union).
At first CNT-FAI more or less saved the Republic thanks to the militia system they've set-up in no time, but as the war progressed soviet influence caused stalinists to become more dominant, which started huge wave of internal conflicts between those movements and ended up in anarchist militias being slowly disbanded. That being said - anarchist took over the control again, but it was already 1939.
Nationalists were divided as well. You've had neo-carlists(absolutists), monarchists(constitutional monarchy supporters), social conservatives, fascists, christian democrats and so on. The big difference between them and Republicans was that they could've ring common bells(defend the Church, death to the red hydra) while in the Republic you've had stalinists, market liberals and social democrats on the "revolution later" side and anarchists and leninists on the "revolution will strengthen us and help us win the war" one, so while Nationalists[cont]
>>944783
argued about "the endgame" if anything, so one side had priorities, the other didn't.
>3. Why did the nationalists ultimately win?
Outside of having their priorities straight, Nationalists had professional army(navy mostly stayed with the Republic) on their side as well as more intense international support. The strategic position was also better with Republican territory being split-up.
>>944697
Looks like a fucking boy.
![guernica2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/y10zlNu.jpg "guernica2[1].jpg")
>>942298
no idea about the nationalists, but the rebels were pretty much what we in portugal call a "bag of cats" - a bunch of ideologies that had little to do with each other mixed together to fight a common enemy.
but you could find anything, from communists to anarchists, from mild to extreme supports of pretty much all left wing with even some support from the center and even the right wing.
but in the end franco won because muh axis dick licking
he knew it was just a matter of time until he got "deposed" (meaning tortured, killed and paraded through the streets) and decided to ask for help to his little papa which brought the condor legion to the streets of spain which ultimately destroyed the revolution on its tracks
>>948546
Actually the Nationalists were the rebels
>muh Axis dick licking
Republicans should've sucked that Soviet dick a bit harder then eh
![Guernica+devastada+pelos+avi%25C3%25B5es+da+Condor%252C+1937[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1LKFE8a.jpg "Guernica+devastada+pelos+avi%25C3%25B5es+da+Condor%252C+1937[1].jpg")
>>944459
i know most people claiming that historical facts that happened decades before they were even born are most likely borderline retarded, but for fuck sake, can they be this fucking stupid without knowing it?
>link related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2ztJbv78Hw
the third reich according to its braindead supporters - love letters, qt lolis, merry singers, comradeship, flowers and rainbows everywhere and anything that isn't this is obviously an hoax made up by the allies and their jewish overlords
Were the nationalists divided as well?
Yes, very much but it ways that did not impact their organizational abilities. Whereas the Republicans were divided between militias, the Nationalists had a few main groups all of which recognized Franco as their military leader, if not their chosen political leader.
Although the Catholicism and Conservatism of the nationalists appealed to a large number of people, the three main armed groups were the Carlist Derechas Autonomos, Fascist Falange Espana, and the Francoists. The Carlists were mainly northern and wanted to restore the monarchy under a Carlist King with total power. The Fascists had their own paramilitary groups and wanted to create a fascist state based on mass politics and economic syndicalism. Really the only things the three groups could agree on were that Liberals suck ass, Franco is a good commander, and the Catholic Church is awesome and should be the centerpiece of Spanish identity.
After Franco won the war against communism, there were actually some pretty major splits within the nationalists. A lot of the former Falange were anger that Franco had accepted some elements of capitalism and hadn't created a syndicalist society or strengthened ties with Italy, and some were arrest for plotting a coup against Franco. The Carlists were even worst, with many being arrested through-out the 50s and 60s for trying to overthrow Franco and install an absolute monarchy.
>>948596
Basically this:
>Franco rebels in Morroco with his Colonial Army
>takes over Spanish Africa
>meanwhile Mola revolts in mainland Spain, he technically has seniority over Franco and is considered as the leader of the Rebellion of the Armed Forces
>Mola conveniently dies in a crash leaving Franco as the sole leader of the Rebel Armed Forces
Meanwhile 3 other movements join the rebellion and each gets buttfucked by Franco.
>Alfonsist Monarchist
They were in favour of a Constitutional Monarchy and Market Capitalism. Franco barred Alfonso (the de jure king) acces to Spain and fight, thus preventing him from gaining any influence.
>Carlists
Basically buttducked by Franco as they were used as cheap meatshields (50% casuality rate) and were never given any mechanized units or modern tech. Their heir was also barred from access to Spain, specially later when he fought alongside Belgium and later the Vichy maquis in WW2
>Falange de las JONS
Franco let the Republicans execute the leader of the Falange and only serious concurent he had for power, Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera. He also got 70% of the original Falange leadership killed and installed yesmen in positions of power. The only redoubt of Revolutionnary Falangism, untainted by Franco's Conservative Catholicism was the Seccion Femenina, which was headed by the sister of Jose Antonio.
Basically the Nationalists won because Franco assfucked the other factions into submission.
>>944794
>he doesn't have a tomboy communist waifu
Top gay.
>>944697
raped by Moroccans lel
