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What is your favourite artwork that portrays a part of history?
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What is your favourite artwork that portrays a part of history?

Mine is probably Scotland Forever!
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>>935706
For me it would probably be the Course of Empire.
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>>935768
I have a really old projector slide of the 4th painting somewhere.
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>>935768
>that fucking hill in every painting
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>>935706
This.
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Landscape paintings are always nice
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I have a few, but I just found 'The Battle of San Romano' by Uccello, and for a painting from 1440, it kind of blows my mind for how advanced it is in art theory. It's just such an improvement on how stiff the pieces for the time were.
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I've always been fascinated by this painting
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Ilya Repin is obviously legend tier, especially the Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks.

So is this guy (dem historical waifus): https://www.google.co.uk/#q=jean-joseph+benjamin-constant&tbm=isch&imgrc=_
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>>935872
holy FUCK
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>>935768
depressing as fuck desu
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>>936901
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>>935706

For the Emperor!
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Can't pick a fav, so have the first one i could find in my folder
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>>935768
;_;
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>>935706
the english had some pretty neat paintings during that era and beyond

also, in my opinion the best engagements to work on a canvas were probably the skirmishes focused on square formations - you could see the whole array of emotions and expressions with much more clarity

e.g.: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Butler_Lady_Quatre_Bras_1815.jpg
and
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3b/8d/cb/3b8dcba5e1c138cde8c070060f54ecdb.jpg

still, my favorite one has nothing to do with battle but i still find it pretty amusing
>pic related
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>>935706
DEUS VULT
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>>936411
>russian army
it's not like they had anything else to show...
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>>935706
That better be a mount and blade NW reference
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>>938948
Nope I've nnever played it. I've played Napoleon Total war though
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>>938647
The French are circle jerking over Napoleon?
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1/2
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>>936666
Nice mang
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>>937130
kek
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>>935706
SCOOTLAND FOREVERRRRRR!!!!!
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>>937084
>>935872
Nature outlasts all
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>>935706

They should have called it FOREVER ENGLANDS BITCH
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>>939600
Its the charge of of the Royal Scots Grey at Waterloo hence the name.
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>>939642

Fighting for another country (a.k.a England) would make them a bitch
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>>939713
Fighting for Britain would make them allies.
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>>939713
>fighting for another country
Since when was the United Kingdom "another country" you utter spastic?

It literally exists because of James VI of Scotland.
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>>939600
Why are you even posting on this board if you are this shit at basic history?
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>>939782
>>939770
>>939764

You are pretty much just regurgitating a particular view of history which puts more of a priority on political necessity than historical fact.
You say Scotland was a sovereign nation which willingly joined with England to create a new country called the United Kingdom and somehow continued on as a soverign nation despite being totally dominated by England for all intents and purposes.
I'd say they just surrendered and were annexed and this whole "UK" narrative is just to mollify them, and thats based on fact not some created political fiction.
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>>939813
>You say Scotland was a sovereign nation which willingly joined with England to create a new country called the United Kingdom
Are you aware that the United Kingdom came into being in 1603 when James VI of Scotland inherited the throne of England? Are you also aware that he designed the Union Flag and enforced its widespread adoption, and that he coined the term "Kingdom of Great Britain"? This man was born in bred in Scotland, the 9th monarch in a line that had ruled Scotland since 1371.

The 1707 Act of Union was passed democratically in the Parliaments of both countries, Scotland under no duress and vice versa. Both countries were given appropriate representation in a common parliament.

>totally dominated by England for all intents and purposes
What exactly is this supposed to mean? Are you suggesting that the interests of Scotland and England significantly diverged after the Union of Crowns in 1603, or perhaps implying the existence of a great cultural divide between the respective nations?

Are you also well aware that the majority of Scots spoke a dialect of anglic and referred to themselves as "inglis" (Angles) to distinguish themselves from the gaelic speaking "erse" (Irish) that inhabited the Northern and Western parts of the country?
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>>939813
If the Scottish nobles hadn't bankrupt themselves by trying start a colony in Panama and been on the brink of losing the Stuart lineage. Then maybe they would never had unified with Britain.
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>>940063
*England
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>>940017

Couldn't be bothered refuting this misleading chauvinistic screed, lets just say James Iv and the parliamentary representatives were all pretty much English in culture. The act of union with Ireland in 1801 was carried out by wholesale bribery for the Irish parliment voted itself out of existance, and all the representatives were English too.
But I guess that does not gel with the official version which you are going to cling to.
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>>940067

freudian slip?
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>>940074
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>>940071
>Couldn't be bothered refuting this misleading chauvinistic screed
Get off this board then lad.

>James Iv and the parliamentary representatives were all pretty much English in culture
And how exactly did you determine that? You're aware that the Scots are just a bunch of angles that weren't cucked in 1066 by the French, and that they actively suppressed gaelic culture in favour of anglo culture? Its not as if he was going to behave like a nigger from the fucking Congo.

>The act of union with Ireland in 1801 was carried out by wholesale bribery for the Irish parliment voted itself out of existance
Since when were we talking about Ireland? Please fuck off back to /b/ you utter headcase.

Also, learn to spell you fucking fruitloop.
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>>940100

Because you are incapable of critical thought
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>>940112
Oh Christ I am laughing.

At least you have a decent sense of humor Mohammed.
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>>936459
I like it too but in terms of pure realism they don't have shit on the Flemish realists.
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>>940119

It might be a good idea to read different sources about historical subjects to see it from all angles to truly understand it instead of just repeating the official line like you are headbutting a wall, might make you a more interesting person to converse with just sayin'
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>>939813
Jesus Christ. I'm Fenian as fuck and even I know you're just pulling shit out of your ass and calling it "historical fact".
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>>936883
"by land and sea we will battle with thee, fuck your mother."

B A S E D
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>>940142
>repeating the official line
>the official line
What official line you mad cunt? Are you literally fucking mental?
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>>940165

The official line of the British/English historical narrative which was meant to subsume regionalism for the benefit of the ruling class of the UK, who happen to be English too mind you.
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>>940180
I honestly think you are a fucking fruitcake.

Goodnight pal.
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>>940180
>the ruling class of the UK, who happen to be English too mind you
hmmmmmm
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>>940186

>gets buttblasted
>cant counter argument
>runs away

Dont forget to insert your union jack buttplug before you go to bed.
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>>940200
You want me to rebut a hairbrained conspiracy theory that is manifestly untrue to anyone with an IQ above 50, and think I am butthurt when I elect not to bother?
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>>940017
Several things that you have stated here are misleading.
>Scotland under no duress
Please explain the riots in Edinburgh over this matter around 1707? Doesn't really sound like a populace that was happy about having its seat of power sent to another country, 300+ miles away.

>Suggesting the interests of Scotland and England diverged
After the union of the crowns in 1603, it's not that they diverged, but the Scottish and English governments had definite differences. In particular, foreign policy, which was undermined by the English government, the larger and more powerful of the two nations.

>Inglis/Erse bullcrap
People didn't refer to themselves as Inglis to distinguish themselves from the Gaels. Inglis is a surname of those who were of English descent who moved to Scotland and settled there, just like how Scottish people who went to foreign countries often ended up with the surname Scott (or one of its variants).
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>>940221
I'm not taking a side here, but this is the most elaborate "what bitch?" I've read in a while
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>>940267
>Please explain the riots in Edinburgh over this matter around 1707? Doesn't really sound like a populace that was happy about having its seat of power sent to another country, 300+ miles away.
How exactly does this equate to duress upon Scotland? You are too keen to debunk an argument I hadn't even made.

You say this as if the English peasantry were dancing with elation when they heard news of the Act of Union. Whims of early 18th century nobility demonstrated scant respect for public sentiment one way or the other, believe it or not.

>In particular, foreign policy, which was undermined by the English government, the larger and more powerful of the two nations
Anything more specific than this? Its difficult to envisage a significant divergence in foreign policy between two firmly protestant nations in a century characterized by post-reformation religious conflicts, and the historical record more less testifies to accuracy of such an inference.

>People didn't refer to themselves as Inglis to distinguish themselves from the Gaels. Inglis is a surname of those who were of English descent who moved to Scotland and settled there
That's preposterous. You have literally just made that up. The ruling class of Scotland since the late middle ages have been Scots speaking angles, not gaels.
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>>940200
No, he stopped letting either a troll or an idiot bait him.
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>>940350
>Duress
Fair enough, I will concede the first point to you on that, I misread your argument.

>Foreign policy
In 1603, Scotland lost an independent foreign policy. International affairs were relations between monarchs and the interests of the wealthier, more powerful country inevitably took precedence. This was difficult for Scotland whose major trading partners were France and the Netherlands, both of which went to war with England at different points during the 17th century.
[Lifted from http://scottishhistorysociety.com/learning-resources/the-union-of-1603/]
>Preposterous Inglis
Surname: I haven't made this up (student of Hons. degree in Scottish History here)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inglis_%28surname%29]

The ruling classes definitely didn't like identifying with the Gaels in the north though, I will give you that. That divide became mainstream in the 14th century.
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>>940577
I know Inglis is a surname. Bewildered by the assertion that it was a name used by English immigrants though. No idea where you got that from.

Inglis is a Scots word for "Angles", which was the ethnicity of the Lowland Scots. See Ingliston in Edinburgh.
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>>940719
It wasn't used by them, it was often given to them by the locals who wrote official records and things like that. Not what they themselves identified as, I am yet to come across any reference of the lowland Scots identifying themselves as Inglis to show they weren't Gaels. Places like Ingliston in Eginburgh would probably have had an obvious English community there.

The same phenomenon is prevalent in Europe around the Baltic sea for Scots. There are places still named after them to this day and the Poles definitely didn't identify as Scots. They weren't particularly fond of them.
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>>935768
Fucking based. Best historical painting, and I don't even really like romanticism all that much
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>>935768
>thatriverwasn'ttherebefore.jpg
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>>940350

"Be there lords in the south, there are chiefs in the north."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zln-AAePtL0
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>>939782
I can't wait for the Scots to cuck Britain out of their flag
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>>941913

"Now wad ye sing this double flight,
Some fell for wrang, and some for right,
But monie bade the world guid-night:
Say, pell and mell, wi' muskets' knell
How Tories fell, and Whigs to Hell
Flew off in frighted bands, man!"

Now wad ye sing this double flight,
Some fell for wrang, and some for right,
But monie bade the world guid-night:
Say, pell and mell, wi' muskets' knell
How Tories fell, and Whigs to Hell
Flew off in frighted bands, man
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>>942054
i fucking love that poem. clanadonia does a gr8 cover of it too.
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>>940115
This piece is titled " into the trash it goes"
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>>935706
I'll dump a few. This one is French soldiers dreaming of the glory days of the French army during the Napoleonic Wars.
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>>942569
"Hail, Emperor, those who are about to die salute you."
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>>942573
A couple more Jean-Léon Gérôme.
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A couple for my fellow Canadians
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>>942590
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>>942591
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