I think the fascist approach economics is "do whatever you immediately feel like," which varies from socialist to capitalist levels of ownership.
>>928864
>Wage labour still existed
>Capital still existed
>"b-but we're anticapitalists!"
Get out of here, memester
>>928930
I can already hear the responses
>m-m-muh corporatism!
>All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.
>capitalism
>Believing /his/ is /pol/ with dates
>>929001
>Political slogans
Private ownership of the means of production and profit. and wage labour is what defines capitalism.
Fascism is the least wheeze of capitalism, it's the last resort of the bourgeoisie to protect their interests.
>>928987
>If I trivialize a logial answer like noting the fact that Corporatism and Capitalism are two different systems by using "muh" in front of it, that will surely make the distintion invalid.
>>929023
>>>/revleft/
>>>/r*ddit/
>>928864
>its a "communist thinks anything that isnt communist is capitalist" post
>>929033
>Corporatism and Capitalism are two different systems
>dude real capitalism has never been tried lmao
t. Rothbard
>>929047
>It's a juvenile "I-still-assign-people-to-ill-defined-arbitrary-ideologic-categories" poster
>>929047
>it has wage labor, private ownership of capital, stocks, corporations etc
>but it's not capitalism because I give it another name
>communism is like capitalism but more social
>>929047
>>929057
i think the best part is that traditionally wearing a hat symbolizes belief in a higher power. fedora tip'd.
>>929047
I think that's actually the opposite of what OP is saying
>>929057
>its a "Im such a special snowflake that literally no existing political or economic view can be applied to me, even though I believe in and shill endlessly for cookie cutter western LARP tier commie shit" post
>>929065
>It also massacres civilians and digests their assets (see nationalizing), a malpractice in capitalism.
The nazis were a bastard child of ideology with no rules.
>>929085
>capitalism has never been tried
Literally every major power has done that
>>929065
Yes, but in Fascism private enterprises, businesses, corporations etc. need approval of the state to exist, and if they are deemed harmful to society they get shut down. That's just one thing on top of extensive protectionism, and nationalizing of certain industries that clearly shows a distinction from Capitalism.
i really liked face/off
>>929078
>It's a "I-don't-have-a-good-comeback-but-maybe-if-I-attack-his-character-with-some-random-accusations-and-a-fitting-reaction-picture-I-will-emerge-victorious, despite-the-fact-that-my-post-literally-proves-his-point-of-me-being-an-indoctrinated-blue-pilled-sheep-who-still-subscribes-to-the-concept-of-ideologies" post.
>>929090
It's state capitalism.
>>929090
That's not a "distinction" from Capitalism, that's just a more primitive/dirigiste version of Capitalism than we're used to nowadays. As far as I know no one accused De Gaulle's France or LKY's Singapore of not being capitalist, and it was even more popular in the 19th century.
>>929088
The nazis nationalized more assets than did many socialist countries.
>>929072
exactly, every religion has their own special hats
jews have yarmulkes
muslims have taqiyahs
Sihks have turban
and athiest have fedoras
>>929109
Are we talking "socialist" as in "Soviet bloc countries" or "socialist" as in socdems? Because if it's the former the claim is clearly false, and if it's the latter it's because social democracy is just capitalism with a human face.
>>928864
is just as ridiculous as believing they were socialists.
>>929105
Well, I guess. But wages are controlled, public services provided for the population, and there is a distinct distaste for the "rags to riches" mentality
>>929107
I guess we can agree to disagree here. I see where you're coming from but when you have the state in charge of industry as well as infrastructure I can't call it truly Capitalist
>>928864
Capitalism is a system of production based on private ownership and wage-labor. In 20th century industrialized societies this was abolished in the USSR and other Stalinist countries (some black markets and private farm plots excepted) but not anywhere else. Nazi command-capitalism did concentrate most economic power into the party in it's later stages out of necessity but it was never opposed to retaining private property in production.
>>929125
Aren't third position economics basically capitalism with a human face too?
>>929109
>he thinks socialism is 'the government doing stuff in the economy'
>>929171
More like capitalism in a military uniform.
>>928864
Got a question, guys. If you had to live in Germany under nazi rule or Russia under Stalin rule, in peacetime, what would you choose?
>>929264
Germany is closer to France so I choose to live in Freiburg and jump the border as soon as possible.
Wow, this thread turned out surprisingly well so far. The capitalist apologists have been put down like the swine they are. I'm proud of you guys for not letting these piggus from /pol/ run rampant.
>>928930
Comone on, say vietnam or Venezuela both still have private ownership. But the state leadeand to the left. Privat ownership does not difine capitalism. Say pre-capitalist societies such as the romans or feudalisem
>>928864
Lol, so many commies thinking Corporatism and Capitalism are the same.
>>929360
>Private ownership doesn't define capitalism
But in conjunction with wage labour and commodity production, among other things, it definitely defines capitalism. Does Vietnam or Venezuela still have wage labour and commodity production? Then it's capitalist, regardless of what the state does. China is the largest capitalist nation on the planet, and yet its state is "communist" (it's not but lets take it at face value).
>>929357
>/pol/
>capitalist
No they're conservative/ultra conservatives that ironically approve of many leftist economic policies. Don't confuse us actual capitalists with them.
>>929456
>there's only leftist politics and right politics, nothing else exits
>>929065
>it has private ownership of these things
>but it also nationalizes these things, going as far as to commit genocide to do so
>therefore the former is what defines it
Give it a break Ivan
>>929456
>no true scotsman
yeah they're just as much capitalist as you are, bub. And you're all going to end up getting executed by the secret police, or end up in a gulag. Get off this website and go enjoy the short life you still have left before you end up working in a mine in Siberia, cuck.
To call fascism capitalist requires a complete lack of comprehension of any motives beyond economics.
>>928864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYEUHk16yk4
>>928864
bump
>>929048
>capitalism
>real
there's your first mistake
>>929179
>he thinks marxist socialism defines socialism
>Marx himself said there are other forms of socialism
>>929264
Nazi germany.
Im an educated white man, commies would send me to the gulags. I'll just pretend to be a nazi if thats what it takes.
>>929521
>They didn't confiscate everything for the state therefore they are capitalists!!!111!!
>>929105
"State capitalism" is a contradiction in terms.
