Why was Song Dynasty China so GOAT?
>>927880
>Song Dynasty
>It's a Song Army gets reckd/successful general gets executed/barbarian invaders bribed off episode.
>>927880
Why are Chinese people so ethnocentric?
They are worse than Jews who think they are Gods chosen people.
Nothing against Jews, that's really what Jews think.
>>927887
>Ethnocentric.
>Civilization that accepted anyone who subscribed to Chinese culture as "Chinese." even if he was a red-haired Iranic cunt.
T. Turkic General in Chinese army who totally wont betray you.
>>927880
>Don't have dog meat on the table
t Chink
>>927902
I'm talking about Chinese people today.
What happened?
>>927931
Everyone in Asia was bitten by the Nationalism bug in 1800's. Since the cool advanced Europeans were doing it.
>>927940
So I take it the Opium Wars helped trigger this nationalistic push? Probably topped off with Moa in the 1900s?
>>927880
>peak of chinese poetry and painting
>movable type printing
>gunpowder
>flamethrower
>fire lances (a combination of a flamethrower and gun)
>gunpowder-propelled arrows and rocket weaponry
>land mines
>introduction of the windmill
>paper-printed money
>capitalism
>concept of true north and magnetic declination towards the North Pole
>magnetic needle compass
>theory of geomorphology and climate change
>hydraulic-powered astronomical clock towers
>mechanical revolving repositories and book cases
>the quilling-wheel for textile manufacturing
>drydock
>figured out how to create steel
>state sponsored study of archaeology
>>928027
The funny thing is that moveable type printing never took off for them since it was impractical for the thousands of chinesse characters so they stuck with block printing
ching chong chang
>>928055
>The funny thing is that moveable type printing never took off for them since it was impractical for the thousands of chinesse characters so they stuck with block printing
It took off. It just didn't match the rate of printing in the west.
It was fucking needed for bureaucracy for one thing.
>>928027
The weirdest part about China is that throughout all their technological advances they still held that the earth was flat until the Jesuits showed up.
>the clock tower
>revolting book case
>paper money
>>928139
>paper money
>canal pound lock
>>928122
Flat and went on forever. Think "space" but you could walk to another "planet." With China in the center of it all, of course.
>GOAT
>got rekt by horse fuckers
>surrendered the mandate of heaven to said horse fuckers
>>928027
Pretty sure they figured out steel long before the song dynasty.
I'd also say capitalism is a long stretch, i.e. no free market and all the stuff the Dutch came up with in the 16th and 17th century.
>"Along the River During the Qingming Festival" painting
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>pic too large
>pic still too large
>fuck you, still too large
>>928189
Okay, capitalism may be the wrong word. But they had a highly unified nationwide market with an unified tax system, private businesses and the promotion of regional specialization and efficiency.
Plus paper money and some primitive joint stock companies.
>>928284
And then they went in decline, Yuan showed up and then ming and everything went to shit :(
>>928300
Everything goes into decline, this doesn't diminish their greatness at their height of civilisation
>>928300
Well, the mongols ruined all the fun, but what can you do?
Southern Song actually held out for decades while every other enemy collapsed before the mongol onslaught in weeks.
>>928332
No but it made the lives of the people a little shittier.
>>928338
The Mongols are the single greatest evil in all of human history. Back to back civilisation destroying specialists.
Fucking faggots.
>>928542
Imagine stabbing a cunt then barbecueing them a second later with the bomb on your spear
Would be the most satisfying way to kill someone ever
HEY WHO WAN MONGORIAN BEEF
>>928598
Its actually used there against the Golden Jin, a sinozied jurchen people who had conquered the northern third of china
>>928542
>Fire oxen
Why have I never heard of this before?
>binding of women's feet
>pollution and degradation of natural environment
>destruction of indigenous cultures
>pillaging of world's resources, forests and oceans
>lack of hygiene and manners
>China
>civilized
When will this meme ever end?
>>928598
The firelance is not the craziest of Song period weapons. In fact it was pretty normie.
The weird incendiary weapon of the Song Period Chinese would be this "mop" weapon that was dipped in some flammable sticky, gelatinous substance based on petroleum and set alight. The wielder then proceeds to flick the "mop" and hurl gobs of sticky flaming shit at the enemy. It was insane.
The Song Dynasty weapons advancements largely can be summarized as "Chinese playing with fire." Gunpowder weapons, flamethrowers, and fucking this.
>>929093
Whole new meaning to moping the floor with your enemies
>>928415
get butthurt you settled cuck, nomads 4 life
also, the Yuan Dynasty was instrumental in many ways for modern day China so get doubly rekt
>>929045
It Stopped since Ming Dynasty
>>929656
>was instrumental in many ways for modern day China
is that really an accomplishment worthy of praise
>>930547
That depends on whether you think laying much of the groundwork for what is soon to become by far the most powerful country on earth is praiseworthy or not
>>930547
of course, the modern day borders of China, especially the Southwest, are directly a legacy of the Yuan's territorial expansion
also, the Yuan was very much a vibrant empire with expanding cultural spheres, bureaucratic administration, and intensified trade links with Southeast Asia and the Middle East - all of which I could put down as praiseworthy accomplishments
>>927973
There was a shit ton of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation
But the concept of national humiliation is also a post-1989 communist party propaganda tactic, so it's hard to tell whether or not the nationalism currently associated national humiliation is the same as the nationalism present in the late 19th century.
>>930574
>what is soon to become by far the most powerful country on earth is praiseworthy or not
I can never tell if people who say this are being serious or not.
>>929045
You forgot one
>civilized
>any culture ever
>>930725
This is accurate in an economic sense
How do you go from this?
>>931387
To this?
>>927902
>red haired Iranic cunt
When the fuck did Iranians do anything to Chinks besides btfo out of them in one short war and then had positive trade with them for over 2000 years afterwards?
>>931420
What war was this?
>>927880
Was it?
I thought the consensus was that Song was a sort of bleak age between the GOAT Tang and Ming revival.
>>929045
>>destruction of indigenous cultures
That's essentially a requirement for civilization to spread you moron.
>>931786
>I thought the consensus was that Song was a sort of bleak age between the GOAT Tang and Ming revival.
Militarily and politically? Probably. But I think the civil, artistic, technological, and (probably) most importantly, economical, developments have a distinctly modern flavour that are compelling for a lot of people. This is especially true with the argument that they were on the cusp of their own Industrial Revolution and such.
