So, what was the Weimar Republic like? Was it this bastion of progressive thought, democracy, and art that my college textbook wants me to think it was? Was it the degenerate hellhole /pol/ tards want me to think it was?
>>911443
>what is the truth
>is it what's in the textbook, written by a professional and deemed accurate enough by a college professor
>or what a bunch of autistic manchildren internet nazis with no sources want me to believe
Is this really a difficult question for you to answer?
>>911454
Well, the textbook and professor have made literally no mention of the German Civil War, or how the Weimar republic came into being, only that it's great, so I'm smelling a rat.
>>911476
Hmm. That's a little concerning. But they could just be trying to challenge the preconception that Weimar was an unmitigated disaster. Have they mentioned the crash and Weimar's idiotic response to it yet?
>>911491
No, the biggest mention made of the crash regarding the Weimar is that the german economy ground to a halt, and a lot of people looked to socialism and fascism for answers.
>>911443
It wasn't as cool as the German Empire, that's for damn sure.
>>911443
It was an ideological war zone to determine the fate of Europe
>>911521
Well that is technically true. But did it mention that part where Weimar caused hyperinflation by attempting to just print money to pay the Versailles debt? That was probably the government's single greatest failure.
>>911840
Nope, not even mentioned.
>>911454
Both have an agenda to push, dipshit
>>911476
This is true in my secondary school history textbooks too, but then again I'm in Asia so maybe they thought it was irrelevant (although I believe otherwise. I think it's very important to analyze the political sequences of the rise of Nazism).
>>911858
Fuck, I mean it's true in the sense that they don't mention the Civil War, or described it in details. They didn't glorify the Weimar Republic at all.
>>911873
See, in my book, they don't mention the Civil War, don't mention the economy being horseshit, then glorify the republic. It just feels fishy as fuck.
>>911892
What country?
>>912028
The only country, the United States of America.
>>911443
It was both. A very unpopular regime. You jave to realize the germans had to experience of or love for democracy, and the republic never lost the stench of defeat in 1918. Not that it was fair, but that's how the Army sold it, and germans had a lot more faith in the Army than in a bunch of second rate social democrat politicians...
>>912034
>United
>States
of
>America
>>911892
Well the republic was in fact fairly liberal for its time, and was a bastion of intellectual thought and high culture. It just so happened that it was also an ineffective government that failed to adequately deal with and to some degree exacerbated the economic crisis, resulting in the rise of one of the most abhorrent dictatorial regimes in the history of the planet. So your book and prof are guilty of sins of omission, which may or may not be nefarious. He's likely assumed most of you already know about all the bad parts of Weimar, since that's what is most remembered about it, and has decided the textbook will provide a nice counterpoint to that, challenging the assumptions of students and serving as a good discussion starter. /pol/, on the other hand, espouses a counterrfactual narrative that they know to be false, for the express reason that they want to make their favorite political party look better, and handle dissent with all the tact and grace of a 4 year old having a temper tantrum.
>>912034
Maybe your country fetishized 'muh 1848'.
>>912078
That would put America as a 'defender of democracy' when they twice installed it in Germany.
>>911443
>you will never buy the freedom of a little girl from a jewish run brothel in Berlin
>you will never raise her like your daughter and teach her about wholesome traditionalist values
>you will never hear her confession as a teenager that she wants to be your waifu and marry her in a small cermeony in a little village in rural germany
>you will never send her to France, pregnant with your child, to escape the oncoming soviets as you are drafted into the volkssturm
>you will never die to the barbaric soviet invaders, but content knowing that your waifu has made her way to Spain and the child is ok.
why live, bros?
>>912082
>twice
>>911841
What's your textbook?
>>912163
Ways of the World, Second Edition, by Robert W. Strayer.
>>912168
Can you check Chapter 20, section III, B, 2?
It was a hellish bastion of progressive degenerate thought, democracy, and art.
>>911443
it was mediocre during a brief period between the hyperinflation and great depression
>>911443
People wondering how did Hitler came to power should take look at the previous previous system.
The Weimar Republic was democratic, but hardly liberal. Most of the power was held by the President.
In the first half of the Republic, Germany was governed by unstable coalition governments. After the Great Depression hit, Article 48 was invoked all the time, essentially making Hindenburg the dictator of the country.
>>912284
Pretty much. From 31 onwards the government basically ruled by decree.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-02/reason-hyperinflation-phobia
>“The collapse of money and the collapse of morals became identical,” writes Taylor. Flesh was for sale as is depicted in “Cabaret” and not just with traditional prostitutes but “the newly dispossessed daughters (and sons) of the educated middle class, who had now also taken to the sex trade, were endlessly available at a price–preferably in cigarettes, precious metals or hard currency rather than paper marks.”
>The author cites a story from Russian writer Ilya Ehrenburg about a night out with friends from Berlin’s foreign colony. he writes that they ended up at a “thoroughly respectable bourgeois apartment.” They were offered lemonade with a little alcohol in it and Then the two daughters of the house entered, in an unclothed state, and began to dance. The mother looked hopefully at the foreign guests: Perhaps her daughters would please them and would pay well, in dollars, of course. “And this is what we call life,” the mother sighed. “Actually it’s purely and simply the end of the world.”
That's why Jews and intellectuals love the Weimar Republic. Remember, history for them is a weapon of class warfare, and they love the idea of a country where the bourgeoisie has fallen so low that they prostitute their daughters, and to whom they prostitute their daughters to? To Jewish intellectuals like Ehrenburg.
Economic collapse never reach the universities, so why should they care about it?
>>912824
>he fell for the Zero hedge is a credible source meme
>he thinks literally one example of something happening means it was widespread
And this is why you should never listen to /pol/ folks.
