What were Hitler's plans for the French/British colonies if the Nazis had won the war? Would have committed a holocaust in the colonies and resettle the land with Germans or just continued use them as a mark for German products?
>>901110
It's my understanding that the plans for the Holocaust were generally limited to areas of Europe Germany intended to settle. With the exception of the hate-boner for "international jewry," I'd expect the colonies to be left relatively untouched.
>>901110
Hitler didn't even have plans for France and Britian before 1939
He never expected to go to war with them
Imagine how great Africa could be if it wasn't filled with Africans
Sauce on the trap
>Would have committed a holocaust in the colonies
Well considering they had already begun rounding up and deporting French Jews to the camps, I think it's safe to say "yes."
>>901110
Would have turned everyone into soap and lampshades.
He'd siphon their resources and either holocaust or let them live under a German influenced/controlled government depending on what race they were according to him.
>>901346
That is just bloody racist
>>903364
But anon, it's true.
>>903364
> be anon
> going to thread about holocaust
> complain about racism
?????
PROFIT
>>901110
Hitler didn't particularly care about Britain/France's colonies. In Hitler's conception of the New Order world Britain was to be Germany's chief ally, and continental France would be so weakened that it could never threaten Germany again.
He didn't give a shit when Japan started taking French and British colonies in asia.
Assuming a total German victory, more than likely it would have been the same sort of case as what happened in Vichy France itself- The colonies would be left under the puppet/rump governments of the UK and France to be ruled, aside from ideal concessions (Germany DID want their colonies back, as unfeasable as it was), and territory that broke from power either due to revolt or influence would fall into the sphere of another German ally.
>>901110
The creation of Azad Hind, Frei Arabisches Legion, etc, indicated that the Germans probably would have the colonies liberated by collaborationist forces and then propped up some favourable indigenuous regimes which would then work closely with the Nazis.
Also, it's quite wrong to assume that Germans hated other non-Whites to the degree they hated Jews and (some) Slavs.
>>904115
>In Hitler's conception of the New Order world Britain was to be Germany's chief ally
The issue was there was no willing politically experimented collaborators willing to stand by Hitler, the leader of the Imperial Fascist League Arnold Leese was a vet and an expert on Camels with no political experience, while anyone else opposed to the war were in favour of peace and neutrality but nobody favoured an alliance with Hitler, not even Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists, Mosley was more than happy to take Hitler's money but behind closed doors preferred to talk shit, and had a major hard-on for isolationism
He did not have plans because he was too busy figuring out how to win a war against them before actually settling them into the reich
>>904222
Hitler didn't have a grasp on the reality of German/British relations, he viewed everything through his ideology. Of course Britain would become allies with Germany, they're both germanic nations, and Britain wouldn't mind German hegemony over the continent if he promised to not interfere with their overseas empire, right?
Really the only thing Hitler got right in terms of long term geopolitics was that America would be a superpower and that there would be something like the cold war after WW2. And even then, he was wrong about which country would be opposing the USA.
>>903374
No it isn't
>>905017
it is faggot
>>905123
No it isn't
>>905123
Fuck off back to b cunt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa
>Sörgel saw his scheme, projected to take over a century, as a peaceful European-wide alternative to the Lebensraum concepts which later became one of the stated reasons for Nazi conquest of new territories. Atlantropa would provide land and food, employment, electric power, and most of all, a new vision for Europe and neighbouring Africa.
This was a thing.
>tfw no audacious and large scale projects like this in real life even in the 21st century
>>906326
African immigration would be even worse
>>906326
The Gibraltar dam would have to be 9 miles across, and nearly a kilometer deep. That sounds fun.
>>901110
what is sauce um a feminazi was like a demigogue maybe he was in on it
>>907035
Especially since the dam would economically and ecologically ruin most North African nations. The project would even provide any useful land as most of the reclaimed land would be salt wastes.
>No penis
>Just a woman
I CARE LESS NOW.
>>907487
But just think of all those new shore line development projects!
>>906326
>damming the sea
>blocking all sea trade to the Mediterranean
lmao
>>907498
I support this opinion.
>>907640
We could have sea elevators so ships would easily be able to pass through the dam.
>>906326
salinity.png
>>909107
lewd
>>901268
>He never expected to go to war with them
Confirmed for never actually reading about him.
With Britain, he did mildly hope to nuture a peace between them, but he knew Churchill hated both him and his Reich.
In regards to France, OF COURSE HE FUCKING WANTED TO GO TO WAR WITH THEM. France was Germany's sworn blood enemy, and for Hitler, the defeat of the Axis in WWI cultivate a very deep and directly personal hatred of France. To him, conquering France was not only for the expansion of his empire, but a deliberate act of vengeance.
>>905138
Yes it is.
>>909738
>In regards to France, OF COURSE HE FUCKING WANTED TO GO TO WAR WITH THEM. France was Germany's sworn blood enemy, and for Hitler, the defeat of the Axis in WWI cultivate a very deep and directly personal hatred of France. To him, conquering France was not only for the expansion of his empire, but a deliberate act of vengeance.
[citation needed], considering he actively tried to dissuade both britain and france from intervention and was convinced neither would intervene when he involved poland and had no immediate plans to declare war on either of them at the time despite this mystical and mysterious deep, personal hatred of france
They would have used native Africans and Asians as slaves to extract natural resources
>>909738
Are you retarded? He even declared publicly in a French newspaper that, unlike the German inhabited territories in the East, the population of Alsace-Lorraine is of no concern for him.
>>901110
He did specifically order Oxford to be left untouched, so he had plans for there at least.
Also a super high ranking officer, or the propaganda guy, I forget who, called dibs on a castle very close to Kent, which he intended to live after the war.
>>911133
>He even declared publicly in a French newspaper that, unlike the German inhabited territories in the East, the population of Alsace-Lorraine is of no concern for him.
Yes, because clearly he had stuck to his word so many times before.
>>907498
Yeah.
It's a shame isn't it? Traps. It's like....a lot more men want traps than are available. We have trap scarcity. I know there are people starving in the world but that's more an issue of distribution. We have enough food, it just doesn't get were it needs to be. The scarcity of traps however is very real and would need a feat of engineering to rectify. Social, cultural, genetic, dietary whatever, I'm not really qualified to make that judgment but something has to be done
>>907450
Woulda been nothing, compared to what went into making the American Highway system over even just a decade.
Not giving Hitler approval, so much as the visionaries of his age. We don't even consider projects on this scale anymore, and we can barely maintain the infrastructure of our forefathers, handed to us just a handful of generations ago. This is primarily because no one can look into the future more than four years, and no one cares about anything that'll happen after their own lifetimes, and *maybe* their immediate offspring's, if that.
Which is almost an entirely modern phenomenon. Nearly all the great architecture and monumental of efforts of the world before the twentieth century took generations to complete, often with those who started them not having the slightest hope of living to see the results or profits from said, as did many of those in the twentieth.
Closest thing we have in this century is the completion of the LHC, and that was a minor miracle. Yes, we can do a whole lot more, in a whole lot less time, but simultaneously, mankind is now collectively unwilling to sacrifice short term gain for the long term victory. A formula for death, in a world where destruction of the old can happen so much more quickly than creation of anything new and lasting.
>>901419
wait thats a trap? wtf
>>912171
Welcome to 4chan, and enjoy your eternal stay.
>>911578
>Oxford and Kent
>British colonies
>>901110
Australia was to be turned over to japan
and Japans intention was to use Australians as a semi literate slave race for production
>>912574
Proof?
>>914295
Given that Germany was in no position to turn Australia over to Japan, since Australia of the time would give fuck-all if England fell, being a colony in name only and allying up with the US more than the Brits... Given that Australia was, indeed, attacking Japan, and Japan was, indeed, planning to invade Australia, I think you can guess where he pulled that from.
>...from down undah.
>>914415
Australia wasn't even a colony in name at that point
>>914739
Australia was a colony in name until 1986.
Granted, that name was in pretty fine print.
>>914893
No it was a Dominion not a colony, Dominions were self governing except the supreme court was in Britain. Militaries weren't even controlled by Brtiain.
>>912535
Not a trap.
Lots of slavery and genocide
>>911762
There's an excerpt I know of Hitler's alluding to the fact that he considered German Alsatians of 'lesser genetic stock', though I can't find a source.
Nonetheless, regardless of whether he desired war with France (I believe he indeed did), he ended up considering proposals of Lebensbraum westward. The most prominent of such was Himmler's proposed Ordensstaat Burgund (SS State of Burgundy).
>>909752
Hitler also claimed that Poland initiated conflict with the Gleiwitz Incident and other various false flags performed under Fall Weiss.
>>903364
>>905017
>>905138
>>905179
>pic related
>>901110
Palestine was to be given independence (and one can assume other Levant states would be formed).
Egypt may have been either annexed to Italy or invited to the axis.
French North African states: see above.
India was originally to remain under British yolk, but later either to be pragmatically given independence, or Japanese yolk; S-E Asian Union was to be under Japanese yolk.
I'd assume the Germans would've revived the Mittelafrika project if they had the opportunity arise; and considering the 'depravity' they were to use in Generalplan Ost, I'd say the same could be said for Africa.
