>Tfw historical events and happenings were actually really dumb looking
The fact that ancient Greece and Rome were brightly colors and probably looked closer to a bad amusement park than an elegant empire
Or that ancient armor and warriors were really stupid looking. Like the Persian Immortals were most likely just dudes with long robes and oversized shields.
that's like, you know, your opinion man
>>893481
>Greece and Rome were brightly colors and probably looked closer to a bad amusement park than an elegant empire
I have to agree with this. Nazi architecture looked way better keeping everything white.
Only if you're twelve and you give a shit about things looking super cool and epic.
It's history. It doesn't matter how cool it looked.
>>893546
Agreed
>/vg/ will never leave
>>893537
>Nazi architecture
>"We wuz great Germanics"
>copies Greeks and Romans every time
lmao
>>893481
Nigger what? a phalagnite in a thracian helmet was majestic as fuck.
>>893481
Also some really important events in some areas were somewhat lame when you look at numbers. Like Mexico's independence. A city of 2000 people and 80 soldiers gets attacked by the independent army of like 200 guys. The city is now free from Spain when most of them didn't even know they had a king in the first place so it's like 'ok whatever amigo'. 20 people join the liberators and off they go to liberate the next city with 800 people.
>>893481
Actually it looked super awesome.
All the knights with their brightly colored surcoats and inviduals coats and flags, the Landsknechts who sew their clothes out of enemy flags, and the greek hoplites with their ornamented helmets, shaped bronze armour and painted shields.
I think an actual historical battle was a much greater sight than the hollywood movie reconstructions - those just apply the dull uniformity of the modern soldier to history.
Also, read "Culture of War" by Martin van Creveld.
>>893537
The Volkshalle looked like a giant tit.
>>893481
>Like the Persian Immortals were most likely just dudes with long robes and oversized shields.
Are you completely ignorant of the fact they wore scale armor?
>>893481
>Implying /fa/ wasn't alive and well throughout the ages
>>893481
Honestly all the HURR BROWN GRAY FILTER OW THE EDGE depictions of history missed the point of the Brown Gray Filter device.
>Most of WWII documentary footage are black and white.
>Spielberg & Co - Yeah, lets add a grey tint to everything to hint black & white footage of the 1940's and tell everyone in the audience this was a past event.
>???
>Plebs apply it to all historical events.
>>893481
Look, what was once in fashion will look dumb even just a few years down the line. Whatever the ancients looked like is probably no worse than what people in the 80's or 90's looked like to a lot of people. You can only appeal to a certain historical look through enough media over enough time that the look becomes synonymous with elegance (or whatever else), or you just filter the past through modern fashion sense and public expectation.
![69ed36d4278865f3a4ae326b9cdc8e43[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0kzpToF.jpg "69ed36d4278865f3a4ae326b9cdc8e43[1].jpg")
>>893837
you do have to tell muslim have amazing taste in aesthetics, i do like the look of muslim soldiers.
>>893942
The boots and armbands and turbans, not so much the sandals and slippers and full-length dresses. It's hit or miss.
>>893966
Persians wore pyjamas too.
It's a semitic thing.
>>893981
Persians aren't Semitic, anon. They're Indo-European
>>893994
They are descendants of Shem, so they are semitic.
There is no such thing as "Indo-European". I think you can mean Japhetite.
>>894006
This is based off of linguistics, not the sons of Noah. Persian is part of the Indo-European language family like English, Latin, or Sanskrit.
>>894006
>Shem
What's it like living in the early 19th century, dude? Persians are Caucasian Indo-Europeans, and the earliest attested records of "pants" were by Indo-Iranians like the Persians, Medes, and Scythians according to the Greeks.
>>893981
>It's a semitic thing
No. That's a made up eugenics tier thing based off a weird interruption made by Europeans since Christdom in Europe was a thing that all Asians are magically the descendants of Shem.
>>894006
kek, are you real dude?
>>893594
>Also, read "Culture of War" by Martin van Creveld.
Thanks
>>894156
Since he posts in every thread on page one, I'd say it's bait.
>>893481
>Like the Persian Immortals were most likely just dudes with long robes and oversized shields.
Why?
The only mention of a unit of "Immortals" comes from Herodotus who's description of Persian equipment is:
the dress of these troops consisted of the soft felt cap, embroidered tunic with sleeves, a coat of mail looking like the scales of a fish, and trousers; for arms they carried light wicker shields, quivers slung below them, short spears, powerful bows with cane arrows, and daggers swinging from belts (Hdt. 7.61)
This passage precedes his mention of the "Immortals however after mentioning them he goes on to say;
Their dress and armour I have mentioned already, but should add that every man glittered with gold which he carried about his person in unlimited quantity (Hdt. 7.83)
Now this is probably an exaggeration but where are you getting long robes from? They explicitly wear decorated tunics and trousers and likely some sort of gold ornamentation was common.
![Classical+Greek+Hoplites[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iTVeBDP.jpg "Classical+Greek+Hoplites[1].jpg")
>tfw you will never fight in a phalanx with your bros
>tfw you'll never laugh at the fisherman Themistius who lives down the road because he couldn't afford a nice helmet decoration
>tfw you'll never fight side by side with the other citizens of your city and charge wildly towards a giant Persian army with the best archers in the world and cavarly and somehow beat them and no one will ever write down how you managed to deal with the archers and cavalry
>you'll never suffer PTSD collectively as a society and all be bonded by your shared experience in close quarter murder fields
Anyone else know this feel?
>>894518
the feel is real brah
>>893537
nazi architecture was pleb and tryhard as fuck
>>893481
>and probably looked closer to a bad amusement park than an elegant empire
You've already been brainwashed in your upbringing to think that so it's no point listening to what your opinion is.
>>893537
It wasn't the only thing they (tried) keeping white.
Looks cool as fuck desu.
>>894607
>>894518
>never die for the polis.
Why live?
>>894611
poleis are a meme
>>894006
Persian are descended from Japheth senpai.
>>894006
>>893484
we come back later and we cut pff your Johnson
>>893847
wasn't WW2 very brown as well due to camouflage uniforms and explosions turning the landscape upside down
>>894733
Yes but the thing is a lot of battles also happened in sunny days but all WWII movies turn them into 24/7 overcast days.
It's even funnier when it's set in the pacific.
>>895790
One of the kids of Noe, according to Biblical stuff, Asians came from Shem (thus Semites), African/Blacks from Cham (Cammites) and European/whites from Japhet and were thus Japhetians.
Such labels were used for awhile and you can read them in some XIX Century racial maps.
>>893612
>Are you completely ignorant of the fact they wore scale armor?
are you sure about that? from what i know they were only lightly armouredmaybe you have mixed them up with later persian dynasties
>>893481
I like that aesthetic. More pleasant on the eye than dull brown and grey Medieval Europe.
>>893942
>you do have to tell muslim have amazing taste in aesthetics
not for a long time. muslims now are ultraplebs mostly
>>895790
>I'm certain the whole "glittering like gold" is probably from their scale/mail reflecting sun ligh
Most understanding is that the mail was worn under the embroidered tunic so no, probably not. I have no idea why you would be "certain" of such a thing without any evidence, making arguments from silence is really bad practice.
If you really want to suggest there was not masses of gold on the Persians you would be better off attributing it to Herodotus's repeated attempts to make the Persians seem much richer and more powerful (which is where the "East is rich and full of plenty, every man has buckets of gold" myth seems to stem from) thus making the Greek victory even more impressive.
>>895891
>dull brown and grey
>>895891
Medieval Europe isn't LE OLIVER STONE DULL GREY either.
I mean for fucks sake, CoA was an important tool for identifying friends and foes and that shit came in a riot of colors.
>>895869
Persian professional soldiers: the Immortals and Companions wore scale/mail armor, they didn't bandy around in just tunics despite what pop culture would make you think.
>>893578
Nazi architecture was more of an appropriation and adaptation of the Roman architecture with it's own additions to it. But yeah, Hitler admired Rome.
>>896133
Of course there's huge elements of hyperbole in Herodotus statements, especially given again that he himself is not a eyewitness and relays upon second hand accounts and more or less make things up.
He also for example claims Persian soldiers carried "untold" amounts of gold and jewlelry on their persons but the only reference to this in Persian records or archaeology are showing Immortals and Companion soldiers wearing a small amount of finery for ceremonial roles when they were in the capitals, not on active deployments.
>>893581
cringed
>>895798
>You will never be a sailor fighting dozens of Japanese warships in the blistering heat of the Pacific
Thanks fucking god.
>>893942
They used to. But that was more than likely inspired from Roman patterns.
>>896308
I doubt the Romans or Byzantines had any influence on the way they patterned their clothing or war gear.
>>894518
You listened to Kings of Kings II, didn't you?
>>894518
It's more likely than you think...
>>893606
It takes after Hitler then.
>>895891
>medieval europe
>dull brown and grey
most of the high and late medieval period were full of colour, as was the renaissance and most of the modern period up until WW1. It's only recently that bling of war has become unfavorable (due to tactical considerations)
Roman soldiers didn't wear scarlet red tunics but whatever dye was the cheapest where they were raised. Often times they used different dyes so the soldiers tunics didn't even match.
>>899112
Also after Marian reforms only centurions wore red tunics, legionaires wore white ones. Hollywood ruined everything
>>899112
most Roman soldiers were undyed tbqh mate.
In fact this is true of most common soldiers through out most of history, especially when equipment was provided by the individual and not the state.
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