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Which has the best music, /his/?

I think leftist music is on average better than rightist music, but that the best political song ever is rightist: Cara al Sol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe_mzj5TjgI
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What genre are we speaking of? Rock music made by racists is clearly inferior to stuff made by leftists.
Also some aryan music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16qD_gf0tdc
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>>883173
>best political song ever
>generic anthem
But yes, on the whole leftist music is typically better, probably because leftists in general are more likely to experiment and push boundaries in art.
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>>883196

>generic anthem

What's wrong with the basics done right, anon? The Italian fascist songs are often quite competent too. Nazi music is dismal, however.

I think that's a good observation that leftist music is more likely to be experimental.
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>>883173
Cara al Sol is a disgustin spanish piece of shit. Since when Spain make music? This is amazing (and i fucking hate the soviet union):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x72w_69yS1A
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Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blümelein!
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>>883173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9q7N5e25c
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>>883370
und dast heist (or that weird fucking B thing krauts do) Erika!
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But everyone knows the Soviets had the best political music. Red Army Choir and the USSR anthem are so good that they still turn 14 yr olds from neo-nazis to Stalinists over night to this day.
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>>883716

>Tfw my teenage Communist phase was sparked by listening to the Soviet music in CoD: World at War
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>>883173
depend what you mean by rightist or leftist

Nazis refers a lot to Wagner operas, so his music could be categorised as rightist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQOfIENN2tk

any similar leftist equivalent?

also interested on leftie/rightie non anthem/marching music
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>>883173
The leftists own Beethoven, so they supercede everything a rightist could do.
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>>883716
This. Red Army Choir is fucking godly.
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>>883196
>leftists in general are more likely to experiment and push boundaries in art.
*tips fedora*

Leftists in general do make better art, but let's not overanalyze it or pat ourselves on the back.
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>>883801
explain
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Soviet music is GOAT tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUe-HmUu8s
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>>883798
Wagner was more co-opted by the right than being rightist itself: there's an important distinction to be made there. Wagner was utilized by the Nazis because they believed his work represented an important piece in further establishing the constructed united German identity.

Wagner himself was a self-declared socialist (having been influenced by Proudhon and Feuerbach), participated in the revolutionary side of the 1848 Revolution against the reactionary monarchies, and was a known friend of Mikhail Bakunin.
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The left is generally filled with far more creative and experimental types so when it comes too art in general the left shits all over the right.
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>>883819
Beethoven was a raging equalitarian. He hated all forms of social inequality. There's plenty of stories of him basically saying "fuck you" to the nobility of Europe, he angrily crossed out Napoleon's name from his 3rd symphony when Napoleon crowned himself emperor, and so on. He also hung out with Goethe who was also far to the left of his day.

His attitude was basically that the nobility are not special at all, none of them were as good as him so he showed no respect.
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They are both worse.
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>>883791
>not Freedom Fighters

Sorry for your loss

https://youtu.be/BBcPpHDJ4yQ
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Stand up, all victims of oppression,
For the tyrants fear your might!
Don't cling so hard to your possessions,
For you have nothing if you have no rights!
Let racist ignorance be ended,
For respect makes the empires fall!
Freedom is merely privilege extended,
Unless enjoyed by one and all.
So come brothers and sisters,
For the struggle carries on.
The Internationale
Unites the world in song.
So comrades, come rally,
For this is the time and place!
The international ideal
Unites the human race.

Let no one build walls to divide us,
Walls of hatred nor walls of stone.
Come greet the dawn and stand beside us,
We'll live together or we'll die alone.
In our world poisoned by exploitation,
Those who have taken, now they must give!
And end the vanity of nations,
We've but one Earth on which to live.
So come brothers and sisters,
For the struggle carries on.
The Internationale
Unites the world in song.
So comrades, come rally,
For this is the time and place!
The international ideal
Unites the human race.

And so begins the final drama,
In the streets and in the fields.
We stand unbowed before their armour,
We defy their guns and shields!
When we fight, provoked by their aggression,
Let us be inspired by life and love.
For though they offer us concessions,
Change will not come from above!
So come brothers and sisters,
For the struggle carries on.
The Internationale
Unites the world in song.
So comrades, come rally,
For this is the time and place!
The international ideal
Unites the human race.
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Am I the only one who unironically enjoys a lot of Islamist music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkr_COi3YmI
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>>883859
Tankies pls
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>>883868
Nasheeds are good but that is some overproduced garbage.

Here's some real halal shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM8ne-QDuxQ
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>>883865
The Internationale is awesome, but Billy Bragg's version is shit-tier. He didn't even try.

This is my favorite version;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUw_aaBjCpE

I wish there was a newer recording of it.
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>>883864

>Implying that's better than this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbBkMG1vFbQ

>Or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQ7hXMLxGc
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>>883370
>>883408
God tier taste my friends. Erika is objectively the best military marching music.
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>>883853
but he doesn't really identify himself or his works with certain ideologies or beliefs, so its not really legit to ascribe him to any political affiliation
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Clem Tholet is God-tier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBVDdr3wqm4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbM_0hRTSiA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmmUVLiJVPU
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>>883891
That's because the only "beliefs" we would recognize formed a few decades after the French Revolution. But if you say "completely despising the entire nobility system" not a leftist belief, then you're just wrong.
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>>883836
yeah, but all his works are basically /pol/ medieval germanic mythologies masturbation
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Here's a song made by Swedish Communists during the Vietnam War. It sounds awesome.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jHq2r6BQA0
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>>883901
His works were made out of the romanticist era of German art, literature, and philosophy: the same era that later birthed the mythos of the German national identity. Wagner did not make his works for the sake of German identity, he made them as part of a larger movement that was congruent with the rise of a united Germany. It was only very late in his life (and after receiving significant patronage from the newly formed German Imperial government) did he espouse any ideas that were remotely nationalistic.
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>>883173
>the best political song ever is rightist: Cara al Sol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odrfx7WmNWQ
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>Rightist
>Leftist
What's the fucking point of these terms? They describe nothing and only end up obfuscating any understanding of ANYTHING because everyone ends up going HURR YOU'RE AN X SO YOU BELIEVE IN Y and memeing all over the floor.
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In terms of modern contemporary music, left stomps the right and it's not even a close contest.

The Clash, Public Enemy and Manic Street Preachers vs. some obscure skinhead punk bands who couldn't play guitar for shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLcaRG8hI4Y

Ulster protest music is the best shit.
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>>883173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVSO1YP9kOk
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>>883874
I loved the music and the lyrics to this song. Just out of curiosity, is it made by ISIS or someone else?
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Leftist music is better.

This comes at the expense of having an absolutely shitty ideology though.
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All is now against us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN2JUMrCFe0
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>the best political song ever was (anything besides l'internationale)
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>>883876
to me this is the definitive orchestral version. utterly breathtaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Zj1ZI8YEU
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Artists are bums who dream about a powerful government who can pay for their living as artists, so they are mostly left-wing.
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>>883196
fascism IS art
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>>883895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eke3l8Tmqdc
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We all can agree the best songs of this type come from Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILsb_hospwY
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