Could someone please explain to me what neoconservatism is? I kept hearing the term come up today during a debate and I'm somewhat clueless about the ideology.
>inb4 read a book
I want to hear what /his/ says about it, not a fucking textbook.
Will bump with dank /his/ memes
>>881239
>I want to hear what /his/ has to say about it, not a fucking textbook
>I want to hear uneducated, unsourced morons scream their political biases at me
>and not read a book
Are you a troll or a retard?
>>881247
a party thats less liberal than the other party on social issues and might or might not promote protectionist policies instead of plain free market.
>>881248
>>I want to hear uneducated, unsourced morons scream their political biases at me
On the contrary, I think /his/ is second only to /lit/ for most reasonable board.
Its pretty much modern American conservatism.
Muh religion
Muh republic
Muh rights
Fuck commies
Etc.
>>881252
no
>>881258
>>881239
They're just a bunch of former jewish trotskyites turned democrats that ended up voting for Reagan back in the 70's, they were called leftists for reagan in this era.
They're known for their foreign policy and shit, they hated the USSR, and they're also responsible for the whole "It's an american's duty to protect israel" bullshit.
In short
Neo means new, con means jew.
>>881266
It is heavily influenced by it. There are other elements of modern American right, much of which is collectively referred to as the "Alt-Right", but they have comparatively little power.
Or at least they did, until they found an expression for their views in Republican frontrunner Donald Trump, whose basically given the NON-neoconservative part of the Republican party a voice.
If you're curious on the differences between the two movements, the differences tend to be primarily
1. A desire to move away from social issues for more concrete issues, such as away from gay marriage and abortion as talking points, towards foreign policy and the economy.
2. Neoconservatism desires America to act frequently as world police, especially against Russia, non Neoconservatives [Alt-right and others] often do not desire this, or desire to change the way we go about it. Some even desire to work with Russia instead of against it.
3. More racialist/racist elements vs neoconservatism. Neoconservatism tends to toe the line with "political correctness", whereas non-NC elements of the Republican party are far more brash and forward, and far more willing to make collective judgments.
I could go on. The biggest distinction is "Neoconservatism is how the Republican party and the American Right is currently being run, the Alt-Right is a bunch of people united only by the shared agreement that Neoconservatism is bullshit"
>>881277
Whoa. Thanks, anon. I thought Trump leaned more towards interventionism, which sounds like something neocons support. Am I wrong?
>>881282
Donald Trump favors drastically reducing our world police action, cooperating with Russia instead of acting against it, and forcing nations we support militarily to reimburse us for the trouble, essentially turning our altruistic world police operations into an imperialistic racket. Or at least, some might argue such.
>>881288
>drastically reducing our world police action, cooperating with Russia instead of acting against it, and forcing nations we support militarily to reimburse us for the trouble
That seems less imperialistic than maintaining our current level of interventionism. Is there something I'm missing? I've just downed a full bottle of Stolichnaya, which may be hurting my reading comp.
>>881291
He wants to reduce our intervention, and make what intervention we do do, profitable for us.
At least, those are his claims.
Neoconservatives meanwhile generally see little to no problem with America acting frequently, and altruistically, as the world's police officer. You must remember, this political ideology developed during the cold war, and the recent conflicts in the Middle East has not helped that temperament. Most everyone agrees we can't become totally isolationist, its not practical, we are the world's defensive hegemony.
However the American Right is currently having a power struggle in how to define its relation to the rest of the world, with neoconservatives saying that we must defend the American ideals, spread them around the world, etc etc, and conservatives who are not neoconservatives saying various things, most of which boil down to focusing on American interests to the degree that is practical, and letting the rest of the world take care of itself.
>>881298
Thank you anon! I'm going to copy this for reading again tomorrow when I'm less smashed.
>>881303
Np. Any more questions before I sign off?
>>881305
Nah. Night anon.
Neoconservatism is a foreign policy orientation, and to the extent it deals with economic and social issues it tends to favor statist solutions.
George W Bush's advisers, especially before 2006, are/were neoconservatives (Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John Bolton, etc).
It's characterized by idealistic rhetoric about America having a duty to export its ideology and values across the world, often by force. Of course, Israel Is Our Greatest Ally., for reasons I'll get into later. Neoconservatives are frequently calling for intervention into this or that conflict more or less constantly, and they were particularly loud beating the war drums with Syria. Had Iraq II gone off without a hitch (which was always hubris and fantasy) they were supposed to have used the military to topple Assad, Iran, and North Korea in American "lightning wars". Obviously Iraq turned into a nightmarish quagmire and that never happened.
It's still very popular with the GOP establishment but the rank-and-file Republicans are much more anti-interventionist than they were a decade ago. Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and Rand Paul are probably the least neo-conservative foreign policy candidates (or ex-candidate).
Now I don't want to come off as a /pol/ack (not that that's a bad thing) but you'll probably notice some...correlations to statements made by Benjamin Netanyahu in the 1990's about Saddam and then American action in the early 2000's, the degree of over-the-top gushing praise and extreme commitment for a certain non-Muslim Middle Eastern state, and the last names of many, but not all neoconservatives and Bush administration officials. You'll may have also noticed every Reoublucan candidate having to attend and make big speeches at a certain political conference a few days ago.
Take from that what you will.
>>881252
But /lit/ is an incredibly unreasonable board. Are you insulting us?
From what I can tell, it's nothing more than a label for conservatives to use to distance themselves from other conservatives.
>>881252
/lit/ there are 12 year olds on /b/ that can give you more rounded and well informed opinions than the average /lit/ poster
>>881239
A neoconservative is a person who used to be a liberal, and has now switched to try to be conservative.
Neo is new.
They're often not actually conservatives; they're usually more middle-of-the-road, politically.
I'm getting conflicting descriptions on what a neoconservative is.
>>882584
People who were considered liberals decades ago, but became considered Republicans when they became pro-military/pro-interventionist in the late 90s/early 00s.
Basically Blue Tribe evangelists who do their missionary work through Red Tribe tools.
>>881275
Pretty much. Irving Kristol created Neoconservatism and he was a Trotskyite in his youth. Neoconservatism essentially usurped traditional Conservatism which was isolationist and anti-immigration. Ronald Reagan was probably the best example of a proto-NeoCon, along with George Bush.
>>881277
Basically Jews.
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/UnderstandJI-3.htm
Here's a paper Kevin MacDonald did articulating the connection with Zionism and other Jewish agendas.
>>882584
Trump is a Neo-Con, as he used to be a liberal, and now runs the GOP show.
