Was monotheism a mistake?
Pretty much. It made religion boring.
>>877862
That picture was a mistake.
>>877862
It is, if your goal is to get laid at the temple. Modern pagans (namely Catholics) don't even have that going for them!
>>877872
>if your goal is to get laid at the temple.
What's wrong with that?
I would say so, in that I feel polytheism makes more theological sense. The idea that a perfect god just one day up and decided to make everything (or one day just up and decided to do anything, really) is absurd. I feel a combination of poytheism, pantheism, and ancestor worship would be the most sensible from a standpoint of making theological sense and psychological benefit.
>>877862
>inb4 the CIDF swarms OP
>>877862
>being more aware, honest, humble, and tolerant is the "fall" of man
You're right man, we should have stayed superstitious barbarians
The picture seems to miss the point that Egalitarianism being the status quo means that people are free to be Pagan, Catholic, or Protestant, without irrational persecution because of differences in philosophical beliefs.
Op do you have the rest of this set of images? I'm looking for the one with Thebes Athens and Sparta.
>earth is just lifeless matter
>premise x
>premise y
>premise z
>therefore egalitarianism
explain to me how this worked in your mind
>>877981
>being more aware, honest, humble, and tolerant
Top life denial my friend
>>877986
Here you go.
>>877862
Refusing to respect other people based on their religious beliefs was a mistake.
>>878006
>muh animal virtues
>>878056
>muh veneration of weakness
Remember kids its not "being unable to take revenge" its actually "forgiveness"!
Its not being a sexless virgin its being "caste" or "celibate"!
Its not being able to say nothing of ones accomplishments because one has no accomplishments to be proud of, its "being humble"!
>>877981
>"You're right man, we should have stayed superstitious barbarians."
>implying modern-day Christians aren't superstitious barbarians who haven't reverted fully only due to the influence of governments and laws.
Get fucked, Christfags.
>>878070
Uh, wasn't hedefending atheism?
>>878023
Cool, thanks
>>878070
>implying modern-day Christians aren't superstitious barbarians
A lot of people today are still barbarians, so fair point, I shouldn't have implied that we were past that. Even atheists are still barbarians a lot of the time. Moralists believe that they have a special insight into "moral truth" and use it to justify barbaric treatment of those they do not tolerate, those who do not share the same perspectives.
>>878065
>muh veneration of irrational impulses
Again, animal virtues.
>being able to say nothing of ones accomplishments because one has no accomplishments to be proud of
I was referring more to humility regarding one's own position in reality. Nobody has some privileged insight into the "truth", no moral high ground, no metaphysical spiritual superiority.
>muh revenge
Perpetual warfare sure is great when technology keeps improving.
>>878023
nice link, do you have others pictures like that ?
>>877981
>Implying Christian morality is better than knowledge of your pre-cuck ancestors
>>878106
>"irrational impulses"
So you completely admit to life denial then.
>>878023
More of these please
>>878118
>comparing morality to knowledge
>>878129
>not being a Stoic
>>878106
>>muh veneration of irrational impulses
read nietzsche please
paraphrasing(very loosely): "you either command or obey, you must command yourself or be a slave to your impulses"
>>muh revenge
also not a thing nietzsche was in favor of, revenge and forgiveness are not opposite things, but different ways of dealing with the feeling of having been done a wrong
>>878138
>implying knowledge is worth shit
>>878023
I'm not him but i got this
>>878158
one more time
I don't get why the polytheism gets mocked nowdays. It's still a less ridiculous idea than monotheism. If there is such a thing as a god, it's logical that there is a population of such beings, like any other type of creature we know of, instead of just one, that existed for eternity. there is not any analogy for that in the known word, therefore, it's less likely. At least with polytheism, they just take what they observed everyday and applying it to a hypotethical world of gods. Also, as opposed to polytheistic ones, monoteistic gods are considered omnipotent, which is in itself a contradiction.
>>878168
>in addition, agnosticism, which neither affirms or denies the existence of God, is said to not carry the burden of proof of atheism and therefore doesn't need to give reasons for it's profession of ignorance
oh, so it's thinly veiled shitposting
>>878167
>the person I was replying to was denouncing "not taking revenge"
that's what the impulse for forgiveness is (at least the source of it, I think it's often just cultural norms where forgiving is expected so you do it automatically)
the reaction to being too weak for revenge
if you're too strong for forgiveness, but also too strong for revenge, you simply forget what was done to you
>>878194
It doesn't carry the burden of proof because it doesn't take place in a discussion where that is necessary.
I don't find it to be very inflammatory, if that's what you're implying.
>cult of entropy
>not atrophy
FUCK THIS IS SAID SO MUCH AND IT TRIGGERS ME EVERY TIME.
>>877981
egalitarianism is a subversion of the natural order. Egalitarianism is promoted at the cost of a healthy hierarchy.
>>878338
Something being natural doesn't stop it from being stupid. Also define "healthy" hierarchy.
The problem is that monotheism cannot affirm life, it is life denying.
In polytheism every aspect of the world is divine, everything is part of some God's divine domain, even opposites can be divine, even 'evil' things are affirmed by some entity. In polytheistic systems the divine and the human realm are not conceived as seperate things, because all aspects of our realm are divine.
Polytheism did the horrible mistake of seperating the divine and the human realm. It did this for moral reasons. Only that which was 'good' is divine and that which is 'evil' is mundane or human.
Monotheism cannot affirm evil, which ultimatly leads to spirtual decay. People cannot understand why a perfectly good God would create evil, so the only way to acknowledge evil is to make 'man' responsible for evil. Man becomes the conductor of evil so that God can remain God, man has taken all the sins of God on his behalf.
>>878338
when the natural order is promoted at the cost of continued human existence, it needs to be subverted
>>878349
>Thinking that man can subvert the natural order
>Thinking that we should subvert the natural order in order to assuage our hurt feelings
There's a reason the Greeks tried to hammer home hubris being the deadliest of all character flaws.
reminder that egalitarians would sacrifice their own mother for the lives of two uzbekistani potato farmers because everyone is equal
>>878368
>in order to assuage our hurt feelings
Nah, I'm talking about the combination of technologically advanced super weapons, In Group Out Group fighting, cyclical revenge, greedy bickering over limited resources, violent conflict, and a phobia of restraining passions and appetites.
>>878384
only if they're act utilitarians
>>878384
what comic is it ?
>>878386
Conflict is a part of nature so is violence, so is competing over limited resources, so are passions.
And if you know your Heraclitus or Hegel you would see that conflict is part of EVERYTHING. It's literally how things comes into existence.
So the anti-nature is precociously what you are talking. It's hubris of the highest order and life-denying.
If conflict is the mother of all and all humans are always guided by your passions, you don't sit around and mop about it, you love fate. Find meaning in conflict, love battle, and live a passionate life. Subverting the Will to Power is the day dreams of Christians, Buddhists, and Schopenhauerians. And that very desire to run away from life's passions and conflict is ITSELF a passion and a deep inner conflict, just another aspect of the Will.
>>878464
Finally, someone who gets it.
>>878464
literally none of that is new to me
however, to think that it could NEVER come to a point where our own extinction is the result (large scale warfare with superweapons), that is hubris of the highest order
Saying "fuck it, let's all kill each other in a blaze of glory!" is just the most defeatest shit
it's irresponsible
Human nature can be altered, molded, shaped, controlled
>>878495
You realize that environmental catastrophe coupled with resource scarcity in the coming few decades will be a much, MUCH greater existential risk to humanity than nuclear war, right?
>>878500
I think that only makes it more imperative that control ourselves.
Resource scarcity becomes more of a problem the more people breed excessively.
>>878519
>that control ourselves
should be "that we control ourselves"
>>878519
Except population growth is happening exclusively in the third world, m8. Every first world nation has birth rates way, way below replacement levels.
Not to mention that there is no economic model that can support the idea of a generation being smaller than the one that preceded it.
>>878464
Not entirely. The will to power through the sociopath or tyrant leads to punishment. The will to power through the sage leads to absolution.
>>878535
>Except population growth is happening exclusively in the third world, m8. Every first world nation has birth rates way, way below replacement levels
Source on this stuff? It appeals to my interests.
>Not to mention that there is no economic model that can support the idea of a generation being smaller than the one that preceded it.
If that's true, then there are two options:
1. have a smaller next generation, and allow economic collapse
2. have a larger next generation, and eat up progressively more resources
unless it fluctuated back and forth, maintaining a sort of equilibrium
>>878565
>Source on this stuff? It appeals to my interests.
Just look at the birth rates of every European country, along with the more developed east-asian ones (S. Korea, Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, etc)
>>878495
People thought the invention of the first gatling gun would lead to some apocalyptic knightmare.
Fuck with this doomsday shit. There will ALWAYS be wars because Strife is one of the foundations of the universe. Will to power is not how things ought to be but how they ARE.
>>877872
>tfw ywn go to your local temple of Aphrodite to fuck the priestess whores.