>democracy was saved by a proto-fascist monarchy
Then they were funded by their old enemy to destroy said democracy.
What's your point? What do you want to discuss about this?
>The parents of modern democracy were merchants and Masons
>The Persians hated Freedom so much that they invaded Greece because of it
>>867501
Funny how they were democratic, but preferred Sparta in the sense of civic duty and virtue. They saw the Athenian corruptibility and the pitfalls of democratic republics from rome's example and worked so hard to iron it out as much as possible.
Perhaps if the US
>>867509
>China hates minorities so much that they are exterminating non-yellow people and putting them at economic disadvantages because of it
>>867515
Really, their vision got overridden by circumstance not long after the Constitution was ratified.
By Lincoln's death the federal government and the nature of the Union had changed. In 1869, that nature was affirmed by the Supreme Court (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White). By Roosevelt I's time the executive office had more power than the founders ever intended. When was the last time we had a legally declared war? The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution has fucked up everything about separation of powers that survived to the late 20th century. I dunno, there are countless arguments about this process. It's just a lot. Nowadays, the American federal government is more concerned with the continuity of the state than with the rights of the states.
>>867555
>circumstance
By which, of course, I mean ingrained lopsided class structures and unsettled/unsettlable issues and grievances with groups within and without the country.
>>867515
> Perhaps if the US
and then anon died of heart attack
It literally wasn't, Leonidas halting the Persians for some time didn't do jack shit in overall warfare, Persians soon swarmed the Attica with ease and Athenians had to retreat to their ships
It was the Salamine that decided the war because the Persians simply couldn't hold out in Greece for much longer without a proper fleet no matter how much numerous they were
also
>Athens
>democracy
good meme
>high level of discourse is expected
>>867515
anon was shitposting so hard he died before he could finish
>>867482
And the Persian empire provided the stability for Macedonia to one day conquer the Persia
thats how history is sometimes
