Why did the Nazis rail against 'international capitalists' while receiving finances and materiel from them?
>>864640
Because the anti-capitalist rhetoric appealed to the populace while the capitalist policies appealed to the party and capitalists. Your pic being very related.
>borrow money and technology from big enterprises
>be in debt
>don't want to pay debt
>blame all your problems on big pharma and the jews
>???????????
>invade poland
>>864640
They got materials from the commies as well. They weren't really all that committed to their ideology, whatever it was.
>>864640
Because being against capitalism does not imply being against corporations and big industry, if they serve the needs of the state and are subordinate to it.
Because they were POLITICIANS.
I mean, seriously now. We know how shifty and scummy and devoid of ideals politicians are if Reagan or Clinton or Bush fund Arab islamists theocrats in the name of "democracy", but somehow when it comes to the Nazis, people act like they were supposed to be 100% devoted to their ideals and then act shocked when it turns out they were not.
>>864701
This. You better read up about corporatism and fascism OP, especially the way Mussolini implemented it
>>864701
>Capitalists subordinate to the Nazis
>implying the Nazis didn't purge Rohm and his followers to please the aristocracy and Bourgeoisie
>>864701
What's your definition of capitalism?
>>864734
>thinks that Röhm was eliminated because of some vague aristocratic conspiracy
>neglects the fact that it was the German military elite that was against the SA
>>864746
Wasn't all the Generals pretty aristocratic though?
>>864744
TL;DR version of it: market based and voluntary exchanges, with minimal state intervention
Fascistic corporatism still has and uses corporations, but in this economic system big industry is subjected to the needs of the state and not the market
>>864707
Yet, at the end of the day there's little difference between the form of capitalism (corporatism) that the Nazis and Fascists wanted to enact and the kind of capitalism that actually developed from post-war American domination of the global economy, which is populist rightism as the socio-political staple, state-controlled liberalism that's fed by imperialist conquest and control of foreign peoples and their labor and resources. The cult of personality is a bit different in that, under liberalism, the object of the cult is the State itself and the Individual under the State, which is exactly why it's not so obvious to them that it exists.
>>864756
True, especially the old Junker class. But it is a stretch to call this aristocracy pure capitalists
>>864746
But the German military elite was full of landowning Prussian Junkers and they didn't want to see their precious Landswehr being replaced by some ragtag socialist pleb gangsters, hence Hitler betrayed Rohm to please the aristocrats.
>>864786
I didn't call them capitalists, I called them aristocrats.
But as for capitalists, if we're talking about shit like Krupp, BASF, Bayer or Hoechst then Hitler simply brown nosed them them because by alienating them he'd risk a massive outflow of capital.
>>864766
The Nazis controlled prices and gained control over what the corporations would produce, but without resorting to the Bolshevist approach.
>>864805
True, but OP's post mentioned 'international capitalists' and >>864734 your post implies that they were capitalistic 'Capitalists subordinate to the Nazis' and implied that they weren't subordinate because they got Röhm eliminated.
You're spot on about the big German industrialists though, especially in the pre-war era when Hitler's position was still a lot more fragile
>>864836
You have my apologies then.
>>864640
bump
>>864974
Which is still capitalism, just not laissez-faire.
>>864640
The same reason the Bolsheviks did.
>>864640
Convenience. Exploiting what could be exploited.
