>It says here that your studies specialized on the "Holy Roman Empire"- Care to explain?
>The Eternal French
>>851788
That smug face
Hi /gsg/
>>851788
>HOLY
>>851788
>muh roly poly vampire
>muh neither roly nor poly nor a vampire
>>852039
>ROMAN
Dumb Frogposter.
>>852130
>EMPIRE
>Roman
>>853555
>5
>5
>5
>>851788
Shut the fuck up you proto-fedora
>>851788
>HEILIGES
>RÖMISCHES
>REICH
>HĀLIG
>RŌMĀNISC
>RĪCE
>المقدسة
>الرومانية
>الإمبراطورية
>SACRUM
>ROMANUM
>IMPERIUM
>UNFUNNY
>FORCED
>MEME
>>851910
this meme needs to die
>>854294
this meme needs to stay alive
>The what what what?
>>854294
You mean the <<Holy Roman Empire>> meme?
[x] Holy
[x] Roman
[x] Empire
>>854321
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>Mundane German Confederacy
>>854396
I think Secular German Confederacy works better.
December 2nd best day of my life.
>>851788
>Religious Classical Dominion
>>851788
W.. well the Holy Roman Empire is a direct continuation of the Western Roman Empire restored by Charlemagne, totally not France which composed his core territories, Germany wasn't a backwater in those days, heheh... Loyal to the holy Roman Catholic church and also numerous protestant churchs, we are a pious people and we all get along, burnings of jews, witches and heretics weren't THAT common and the 30 years war wasn't too bad as far as wars go, not as destructive as.. as... the nazi occupation of Poland.... Maybe,,,
Yes, the voluntary peaceful union of countries like Bohemia and Bavaria into a huge empire spanning roughly the area of the Kingdom of France or the Kingdom of Spain (before their colonial empires) is definitely an interesting quirk in history and worthy of study, much can be learned.
>Sacred
>Latin
>Nation
>>851788
The first Holy Roman Emperor was crowned by the Pope, making it Holy. Also crowned as Imperator Romanorum, making it Roman. And these were the borders making it an empire.
The only true HRE was the Carolingian one. Plus if you subscribe to the theory that Rome in the west didn't fall and simply transformed then it also lends more legitimacy to the Carolingian HRE.
>>854396
>debauched gothic dystopia
>Wicked
>Teutonic
>Realm
>Autistic
>Aryan
>Coalition
>Insidious
>Prussian
>Union
>>851788
Profane.
German.
Fiefdoms.
>>851788
Why, yes!
In fact, I specialize in 800 - 814 AD!
Filthy
Germanic
Barbarians
>>851788
...
"Interesting. Now before I stamp these papers, make sure this information is correct."
"Show your papers to the Captain when you exit to get your release fee."
>Sacred
>Latin
>Realm
Nope.
>I'm sorry, would you mind repeating what you just said? It sounded like you said "Holy Roman Empire" but I just wanted to make sure I heard you correctly.
>"""DANK''''
>FORCED
>MEMES
>BEST
>THING
>EVER
>>857194
People who weren't rich as fuck lords disagree, in fact they disagree so much they had wars about it. And if castles are the measure of a nation's greatness then all of Western Europe was a fucking utopia.
>>857201
It was as good as a civilzation could get at this time. Not saying that Paris wasn't a greater city than Vienna, Munich or Prague; or China being more civilized at some point in history, or the Romans being more advanced in civil engineering - but for most of the time of its existence, being born in the Holy Roman Empire was a privilege. Although the name is just so dumb.
>>852090
It's called the Pillbug Confederation
>>857254
He's thinking about the
>Holy
>Roman
>"Empire"
warmongering
germanic
tribes
>>851788
DESIGNATED
PAPAL
STATE
>>856997
ISLAND
OF
MORROWIND
What did they mean by this?
>>857501
Stormy weather on the island tomorrow.
"""""""""""HOLY""""""""""" """""""""""ROMAN""""""""""" """""""""""EMPIRE"""""""""""
>>856816
This had me laughing hard
>>853555
>still mad about some century old bantz
>>851788
HERETIC
BARBARIAN
ANARCHY
>Satanic
>German
>Rabble
> Democratic
> People's
> Republic
>>860254
>Republic
>South
>""""""""""""Korea"""""""""""
CURSED
SAXON
LAND
>>851788
Reminder that forced memes will never be funny.
>>860423
Found the German.
>silly
>deutsche
>area
>>863198
Are you gonna bump all the dead threads?
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
>>857254
Smile of Reason
Someone spoon feed me what the HRE was and why it isn't H , R , or an E.
>>864062
The Holy Roman Empire was a bunch of states in current day Germany during the middle ages. It wasn't in any way Holy, Roman or an Empire but was called it because calling yourself for a Holy Roman Empire gives you prestige.
>>864062
The Holy Roman Empire was a Germanic collection of territories unified and claiming to be the inheritors of the Roman Empire by proclaiming Otto I to be the next Holy Roman Emperor centuries after the collapse of Rome
Otto ruled as """Roman Emperor""" at the same time as the Byzantine "Roman Emperor" Constans II, as well as some other assorted "Rightful Roman Emperors" in the Kingdom of Italy.
The HRE wasn't holy because of all the backstabbing between the rulers and the heads of the church, it wasn't roman in the least, and the territory didn't satisfy the definition of an Empire: only called that because of it's supposed spiritual link to the Roman Empire
>>854422
It's funny how clear it is that this was painted by a HRE artist
>>864062
You could argue it was an empire althought it was more of a confederation, you might argue it was holy it did have the papal blessing but it was full of corrupt sinful leaders (not that the rest of Europe wasn't), it really wasn't Roman though. Although it did hold Rome at several points, it means Roman as in a direct successor state to the Roman empire. Which it wasn't Byzantium was.
holy fucking shit i wanna bunch voltaire in his fucking face
>BUTT
>BLASTED
>KRAUTS
>>851902
First post best post
>>854128
>ROMANUM IMPERIUM
>not IMPERIUM ROMANUM
smug frenchman.jpg
>>864185
>HRE
>1812
I want the /int/tard memeshitters to leave.
Someone can explain me why Voltaire and the Holy Roman empire became a meme ?
It's just a funny quote and so ?
And It's true, Holy Roman empire had several time attacked the Papal states, was a weak elective power and germanic, not roman or latin
>>869746
One of Voltaire's writings said something to the effect that the Holy Roman Empire is neither Holy nor Roman nor an Empire. That's where the meme comes from.
>>869746
Voltaire is a fellow historical shitposter. He, Luther and Gorgias are memes for that reason.
>>869746
>And It's true, Holy Roman empire had several time attacked the Papal states, was a weak elective power and germanic, not roman or latin
Since other people have touched on the meme-ness of the quote, I'll focus on this part.
The reason why it's shitposty and can irritate people is that the HRE at the time of Voltaire is a very different beast from the various HRE incarnations that had exists before. During the Ottonian, Salian, and Hohenstauffen periods, the Empire was a pretty respectable claimant to the Western Roman Empire's heritage with its control of Italy and its role within the wider Catholic world. Even the early Habsburg period could be argued as continuing that tradition.... as for when the line was broken, take your pick of the Diet of Worms or the Peace of Westphalia. The former is the Teutoberg, and the latter being the ousting of Romulus Augustulus.
>>860324
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