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Anglo discipline, a good sense of humour from all 4 countries, and Celtic ferocity.
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>>833003

You mean three countries right? Ireland just got pwned by the other three (mostly England and Wales.)
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>>833007
>sense of humour
A useful feat to conquer the world, yes.
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>>833011
Irishmen made up a huge portion of the British empires military despite the fact they deny it. Many British generals throughout history were actual Irishmen.
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>>833018

You what you are saying is that the Irish were the African-Americans of the British Empire.
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>>833011
Got subjugated but so did wales. 18th-19th centuries 1/3 of the British military were Irishmen. So they most definitely played a part in the Empires successful expansions.
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>>833003
I have the hypothesis. They were partially safe in the Island by protection of Ocean, so they just did expand theirs area of influence, while mainland was safe. Same case like Japanese had.
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>>833003
Well, it's simple.
China invented gun powder, Continental Europeans improved it, and then Brits used it to conquer technologically inferior people overseas while continentals were busy fighting each others
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>>833023
No.. Go to /pol/ if you want to discuss that sort of idiocy.
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>>833036

So your saying they had the vision to stop bitching within Europe and exploit the 3rd world countries (Ireland America Africa India and Australia) for easy resources and manpower?


This is why the British are the European master race
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>>833018
>Many British generals throughout history were actual Irishmen

Anglo-Irish you mean, which is not quite the same thing.
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>>833036
Wasnt it a south east asian country that invented gun powder/musket?
Because I remember that turks had canons when invading constantinopel and would cool the canons with olive oil, and a musket is a small version of a canon.

The british conquered alot of land and gained alot of power after the discovery of america, because there were alot of gold there that they "stole" from the natives, same goes for netherlands, portugal, spain and france, this is also when the european powers grew strong enough to compete against the ottomans who never went to americans because they didnt need to and their ships wasnt strong enough. The european powers, especially portugal and spain had to develop new ships to counter the ottomans that ruled the seas by hiring pirates. The ottomans ruled all trade routes and spain/portugal needed another route to india but discovered america instead.
The brits truly ruined the ottomans in ww1 and gained alot of wealth and power that remain today.
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>>833003

Being the ones who drawn teh maps.
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>>833036
Ah yes, a /pol/ image that uses the word "niggers". Obviously a """""""source""""""" to be taken seriously and not a low tier attempt at trolling at all.

What you're trying to say badly is that the British Empire was basically an economic and trading empire, rather than one of military conquest. The Brits were the best in the world at holding large territories with giant populations with minimal amount of people, because of their diplomatic skills and ability to set the the population against each other instead of the Brits.

Brits did colonialism the best. Their economic empire lasted over a century, and if Britain hadn't made the calamitous foreign policy blunder of entering WW1, it probably would have lasted another half-century at least.
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>>833061

No, they realized that being dependent on the Continent for all of their supplies and goods was a fucking disaster-in-waiting, and this prompted them to find a better alternative.
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>>833153

The Brits were suffering a serious dearth of intellectual manpower by 1914. Point of fact, pretty much every civil government in Europe was.
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>>833003
You mean

HOW DID WESSEX MANAGE TO CONQUER ENGLAND AND WALES AND IRELAND AND WALES AND THE WORLD

Wessex is love
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>>833061
Please. Ireland was a participator in the Empire, not some oppressed colony
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>>833191
wez ireesh dindu nuffin dey was stealin out taytas 'emember 'o gr88 famine
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>>833003
They perfected colonialism. The Brits dumped their convicts and poor onto a horrible island, left a few soldiers and administrators, then somehow convinced them they were a glorious addition to the empire.

The most hated people in the empire were fucking duped into turning their own prison into a workhouse for the people who imprisoned them.

The sheer ballsiness of it astounds me.
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>>833003
Tu veux dire placé 2000 hommes dans un pays et dire qu'ils l'ont conquéris?
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>>833222
>This will never work again
>2146
>UN dumps a bunch of convicts on Colony world Dindu IIV
>colony population is 80% back 15% hispanic 5% other
>few hundred guards
>colony goes dark after 2 weeks
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>>833222
Not all parts of Australia were penal colonies, some were actual settlers. Colonists throughout history have been poor and down trodden or essentially avoiding oppression on some level.

Would it be better if Australia was a nation of shame, self-loathing and victimhood? Maybe they were told they were a glorious addition because it ended up being that way.
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>>833260
>Would it be better if Australia was a nation of shame, self-loathing and victimhood?
Glad they avoided growing up to be just like the motherland.
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>>833191

Nah. It was an oppressed colony.
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>>833003
1) Since Roman times it has been strongly connected to the Mediterranean world, which in turn is a trade network uniting a vast area that can be compared to the 2 other great population centers of the old world, Northern India and China. So it was 1 of the 3 great centers of innovation where you had various artisans in large cities experimenting with different iron smelting techniques and the like for centuries and centuries.

2) From the time of Charlemagne onwards, European agriculture developed, populations increased and naval technology improved connecting the North Sea to the Mediterranean. Now Britain had a lot of exposure to Istanbul and the Italian city states, though so did larger powers like France, Spain and the Habsburg dominions.

3) Eventually Spain was surpassed by France despite Spain's vast colonial empire due to this area which had a dense population, the Netherlands also rose to power.

4) Louis XIV kept attacking the Netherlands, for a while Britain was happy that their trading rivals were tied down, however eventually they decided it is better to team up resulting in the glorious revolution. A lot of trade in the Netherlands moved to more secure locations in London, securing its place as the ideal location for anyone who wanted to try and put the latest technology into practice. By this time the parliament was very powerful due to the importance of commerce, helping to preserve the rights of merchants and minor nobles from heavy taxes or political repression as the French had to endure under Louis XIV.

5) Despite France's larger size, Britain could compete using its alliances in Europe and maintaining a better navy, both in quantity and quality (which helped spur industrial growth alongside being an important economic center). After defeating Napoleon, Britain was all set to have their industrial revolution and explode, conquering other countries across the globe that didn't have as good military technology.
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>>833011
You mean one country right? Because England did everything. Scots tried but their colonial empire ended up being a miserable failure
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>>833016
It actually is a wonderful evolutionary feature and there is food evidence that those who posses a more well rounded sense of humour fair better in general.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theories_of_humor
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>>833765
>food
Dammit,auto correct. Foiled again.
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>>833018
Actually due to massive immigration and colonisation most were English
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England and Scotland started getting along after the reformation

Wales and Ireland got subjugated by the English

The Scots inherited the throne of England

You got a comfy union
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English cunning
Scottish innovation
Welsh bravery
Irish cannon fodder
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>>833003
That small strip of water protected them from the continental wars.
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The privilege of being the only Western countries on an island.
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>>833791
The 1/3 of Irishmen in the British army were Irishmen from Ireland not Anglo-Irish or English, Gaelic Irishmen.
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>>833191
>colonized and oppressed
>not an oppressed colony
nigger what
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>>833091
While many were anglo-Irish, many more were actually Gaelic Irish.
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>>833003
Just England and Scotland desu
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>>833191
It can be both though.
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>>833036
Why didn't Japan do the same?
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>>833852
Ireland was never a colony. It was on an equal footing to the rest of the union. It was oppressed as much of the rest of the catholics and non-english speaking population of the union were at the time.
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If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
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>>834028
Fuck off, Rud
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lol

Living in an island, you only need to invest in a navy for national defense.
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>>834067
It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.
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>>833978
They started to do it when they were finally technologically capable of it (mid 20th century), but the US slapped their shit
Brits did it in a era no one could stop them
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>>833003
"""""""together""""""

It was just Scotland and England m8 don't put that shit on us. We were just footsoldiers, and only towards the end.
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>>833011
>Ireland got pwned by Wales
wot?
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Killed more unarmed niggers than Spaniards, Portuguese and Frenchied
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>>833199
WE WUZ POTATO FARMAS NIGGA DEN DEM FUKKIN BRITS COM ALONG AND DEY FUKKEN USE DEM RAYCIS ANGLO POWAS TO FUKIN MAKE US SLAVES N SHEIT NIGGA.
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>>834992
>>833199
are you bumping the thread or can you literally not help yourself posting this tripe in every fucking thread
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>>833007
>Anglo discipline
Scotland provided more men in nco's positions per head than any of the other three countries? So British discipline?
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>>833093
Pretty sure that the huge cannon they had sieging Constantinople was european made
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>>835438
IIRC some Hungarian engineer was behind them
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>>834028
Am I bad at art or is it just the three same faces with different hair and eye color?
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How come none have said anything about the Channel yet?
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>>833003
Pirates.

Before Francis Drake , the UK was irrelevant.
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>>833812
lol
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>>833191
>butt blasted potatonigger actually thinks Ireland was a participant and not a colony.

>every state that was formerly part of the British empire has the base intelligence to work out it was a racket. Even the niggers.

The Irish, /his/. Literally stupider than niggers
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Corporatist imperialism
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>>833153
>Ah yes, a /pol/ image that uses the word "niggers". Obviously a """""""source""""""" to be taken seriously and not a low tier attempt at trolling at all.
normal people call these "jokes".
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>>833003
I see at most two countries. British Isles under one fleg or UK and Ireland

Welsh nationalism is bollocks, Scottish national identity is mostly victoriana bollocks and anger at that there London.
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>>833036

Don't forget to mention that all these lands, except Indian were and still today desert.
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>>837098
Except that's clearly a bong trying to shift the blame.
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>>837098
/his/ is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates. Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.
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>>837138
>IT WAS JUST A PRANK
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>>833011
Wales was pretty much non existent after its union with England... it was basically just an extension of England after that point
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>>833003
Isn't it more like England and it's minions/lackeys? We've always referred to Britain as just England here.
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>>834018
>Ireland was never a colony.
except when it was colonised.

>It was on an equal footing to the rest of the union.
1. Your having a giraffe
2. The union is a small period of Irish colonial history. Probably the worst and most destructive period but not the only one.


>It was oppressed as much of the rest of the catholics and non-english speaking population of the union were at the time.
The penal laws against catholics were unique to Ireland. Anti-Catholic laws in England were not nearly as bad. Scottish highlnders and welsh speakers were also oppressed. Religion and language were the two most fundamental aspects of Irish culture since the abolishment of Brehon law by colonisation, so to say that Irish people weren't oppressed because they could change their language or religion is nonsense. It's like saying they could avoid hardship by becoming English.
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Did the Welsh or Irish ever contribute anything meaningful to the British Empire and world at large, other than a single Prime Minister. Nearly all the inventions seemed to come from Scotland (TV, telephone, condensing steam engine bicycle, penicillin, etc), or England (The computer, electric motor, world wide web, flushing toilet, machine gun, etc) with both making huge discoveries int he the sciences too, yet the Welsh and Irish never seemed to make any big innovations.
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>>837823
Longbows
Poor bloody Infantry
Arts
Ireland supplied half the worlds 'white' population, they spread like germs into America, Aus and the UK and slowly assumed control.
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>>833742
Scotland contributed a ton to the success of the British Empire. Despite Scotland being tiny there were a huge number of important figures from Scotland.

Also, keep in mind England's population is extremely vast in comparison to the others - there's a reason they did the brunt of the work.
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>>837763
>eastern USA and Canada
>nigeria
>new zealand
>papua new guinea
>most of south africa
>guyana
>sierra leone
>ghana
>the gambia
>east africa
>burma
>malaysia

>desert
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>>834018
>Ireland was never a colony.
>inb4 plantations aren't colonies
exact same thing, different name
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>>837823
It's difficult to invent things when you are poor and oppressed, which most were.
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>>837823
Some did participate in the empire, many in the navy, and colonial trade.
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>>837997

Even in modern Britain I'm sure the Scots have had more Prime Ministers per capita than the English, while the Welsh have had a grand total of one, and the Conservatives had a bunch of unelected leaders who were Scottish, one from Labour who died quickly too.
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>>833018
>Le Duke of le Wellington was a le Irishman
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>>834028
arr rook same
Also, shouldn't they have black hair?
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Cooperating with local 1.5st class rulers to overthrow the top and oppress the lower.
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>>833153
>if Britain hadn't made the calamitous foreign policy blunder of entering WW1, it probably would have lasted another half-century at least.

Germany had already surpassed Britain as Europe's leading manufacturer with France and Japan close on it's heels; the United states was almost as rich as the countries of Europe combined.

If anything, the destruction WW1 caused to continental Europe allowed it to extend it's dominance for a few more decades.
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>>833003
They looked outside of Europe, which most of Europe didn't (or couldn't) do. They started early (unlike the Dutch or Belgians) and found fertile land which Russia didn't have, and had enough resources to properly colonies it, unlike the Portuguese. They gave enough of a shit about the colonies to instill questionable governors, unlike the French and were just unlucky enough not to find all the silver and fall into depression like the Spanish did.
and with all of these raw materials from outside they were able to grow even further with little true competition.
Its all luck m8, they just happened to hit the jackpot.
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>>834028
>posts "If" by Rudyard Kipling
>"you’ll be a Man, my son!"
>posts Otaku shit representing England

Feck off you cunt of a manchild
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>>833016
British satirical culture kept the masses away from autistic nonsense like absolutism and fascism. Of course it helped.
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>>837771

>I am a huge faggot please rape my face
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>implying England didn't do all the work, while Ireland got assraped, Scotland exiled half its population to Canada, and Wales continued not existing
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>>837771
Kek, fucking thin-skinned pussy
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>>837823
Tv, telephone, and www weren't invented in UK fool
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I'm sorry I did this but it's the right answer you know.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4a4h2e/what_did_the_british_do_right_with_regard_to/
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>>840529
Make me.
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>>833190
>HOW DID NORMANDY MANAGE TO CONQUER ENGLAND AND WALES AND IRELAND AND WALES AND THE WORLD

Ftfy

Also, they didn't conquer two Wales'. Unless you meant to type one of them as 'Whales', as a metaphor for naval dominance.
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>>833253
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>>833812
Kek.
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>>833016
Countries with shit senses of humor

>Germany
>Brazil
>India

Notice a trend?
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>>840587
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberry.
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>>837771
What a load of crap. Ridiculous!
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>>833036
>Italy
Italians and Romans are not the same

>Spain
wow must have taken a lot of skill to inherit land when monarchs die takes a lot of skill

>France
"We conquered Europe for a few years before getting raped by Britain and Russia"

>Germany
"We conquered Europe for a few years before getting raped by Britain and Russia"

>Great Britain
Brilliant and unprecedented diplomatic maneuvers to successfully unite 20% of the world's population under the British crown.
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>>833036
>build whole countries
Vs
>brief subjugation of neighbors
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>>834028
You snatched that pic from my thread.
I feel accomplished.
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