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Post people who could should have won
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A middle ground between reactionary and communist insanity. Too bad he was an awful politician.
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>>829622
>implying his shit government's overthrow in the October Revolution wasn't glorious
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>>829631
It was a disaster for Russia and mankind
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>>829640
Butthurt liberal detected
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>>829622
>>829640
A revolution needs to go through the extremist phase. The early revolutionaries are only bound in their hatred of the current regime; once it's gone, they fight and the moderates are too poorly organized to win. If it wasn't lenin it would've been someone else
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>>829631
>orchestrated by germany purely to fuck Russias shit up
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>>829695
But he shouldn't have won. Adolf Hitler's planned system was inherently wrong, because people do not deserve to be oppressed and killed based on their identity.
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>>829608
too busy squabbling with the social democrats and let Hitler in the door
just a lackey of Stalin
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>>829727
Cuck
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>>829608
Thälmann was a cocksucker for Stalin. Kaas should have won those elections.
#KeineExperimente
#Liste4
#Zentrum
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>>829759
Word literally has no meaning anymore.
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>>829647
But anon, bolsheviks were the liberals. The tzar regime was as conservative as it gets.
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>>829765
You're still a cuck
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>>829759
>killing people for things they have no control on and are objetively neutral to society
Yeah no. Hitler was a völkisch pleb uneducated pseudo-mystic piece of shit that ruined fascism for everyone, forever. Fascism should have remained modern and syndicalist, like D'Annunzio, Maurras, Rohm, the Strassers and Jose-Antonio wanted.
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>>829771
>being anti conservative means being liberal
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>>829771
>bolsheviks were the liberals.

WEW LAD
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>>829780
>if i say it enough times it will be true
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>>829788
They were.
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>>829727
>Inherently wrong

Do you realize the intellectual vacuum of that statement?
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>>829796
No, they were not.

Do you know what liberalism is?
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>people who think the bolsheviks were liberals are allowed to post on this board
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>>829804
>abolished the monarchy and aristocracy
>legalized homosexuality
>legalized abortions
>legalized divorce
>put in laws that equalized the sexes
>put in democratically run institutions

How were they not liberals?
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>>829793
>killing people for their identity is bad
You're a fucking cuck. Probably listen to 'sensitive indie rock' and support blm
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>>829814
Liberalism means liberal democracy. That is, the sort of governments western countries have. Constitutions protecting freedom of speech, private property laws, all that Enlightenment crap. Parliamentary democracy, etc.

Socialists and Communists are not liberals.
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>>829815
>>829780

False flagging marxtard please go.
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>>829759
Why am I a cuckold if I think it's wrong for innocent people to be murdered?
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>>829815
I'm not even that guy.

Would be nice if you could explain why it's cool to kill people for things beyond their control though.
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>>829820
>Liberalism means liberal democracy.
'No.'
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>>829822
>>829824
You gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette
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>>829826
'Yes'
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>>829761
The SDP left a bad taste in my mouth after going full tankie against Luxembourg, Liebknecht, and other visionaries

>>829771
Decent bait.
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>>829653
kek, except when the extremist phase lasts 70 years
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>>829826
No you're wrong. Liberalism means exactly what the other anon said, outside of post 1950's US where it became this weird amalgam of socialism, progressivism, egalitarianism, classical liberalism, etc.
Stop defining eveyrthing by the standards of your meme country.
In early 20th century Europe Liberalism is Enlightenement ideals + John Locke + Constitutionalism + small governement + business interests. Liberals that were also slightly more socialist than your average liberal formed Radical parties.
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>>829771
liberal (in the U.S. sense)=/=communist. they share a sense of social "liberalism" (that is, a disregard for traditional societal norms) but their political and economic outlooks are radically different.
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>>829800
But that's not incorrect. To kill people based on immutable characteristics is a rejection of Western ethics
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>>829840
But Kaas was chairman of Zentrum, not SDP.
Also based Ebert was totally justified in shutting down those lunatic inteligentsia fanatics who were nothing but useful idiots to Lennin.
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>>829820
I never understood why liberalism is incompatible with socialism, except for the matter of property rights.
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>>829885
>>829864
It existed it was called the Radical movement and was present in most of Western and Central Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radicalism_%28historical%29
Radicalism was basically a proto socialism and advocated social-liberal laws.
But obviously that doesn't mean liberalism=socialism
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Spain would be 100x better if the commies didn't kill him and allow for that faggot Franco to take power.
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>>829896
These are the Radicals that survived to this day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Party_%28France%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Democratic_Party_of_Switzerland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Civic_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_Social_Liberal_Party
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>>829771
>bolsheviks were the liberals.

Are you fucking american?
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>>829647
If there is a people in the world who doesn't need to be butthurt about anything are us, liberals. We won, in case you haven't noticed.

I just feel bad for Russia not joining the party, instead they went straight from tsarist autocracy to Soviet totalitarianism, never having the chance to experience liberalism done right.
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>>829909
On November 17 “people court” to Alikante sentences Jose Antonio to capital punishment for the participation in the armed rebellion, and in 3 days sentence is led for the performance.
Thus. Is armed rebellion legal in modern Spain and they give wine and cookies to every rebel?
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>>829771
dictatorship of a 'bolsheviks party' is not a liberal idea.
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>>830019
>Is armed rebellion legal in modern Spain and they give wine and cookies to every rebel?

Almost yes

>In the judgment of the Supreme Court of Military Justice, known as the Campamento trial (juicio de Campamento), Miláns del Bosch, Alfonso Armada and Antonio Tejero Molina were condemned as principally responsible for the coup d'état and were sentenced to thirty years in prison. Thirty people were eventually convicted for the attempted coup, out of an initial 300 who were involved.

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