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Why was Poland spared, /his/? Was it providence?
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Why was Poland spared, /his/? Was it providence?
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>>805876
Because it was internally balkanised underdeveloped shithole.

Just like today btw.
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>>805876
Christ of Europe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_of_Europe
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>>805876
>Why was Poland spared, /his/? Was it providence?

Memes aside, it was becase:

1. It was a time of prosperity and good harvests. Better fed population = less susceptible to diseases.
2. It was ruled by a very smart king - Kazimir III, knows as the Great. The king ordered quarantine of all merchants entering the kingdom, thus blocking the disease from spreading along the trade routes.

>>805879
>Because it was internally balkanised underdeveloped shithole.

Bullshit, it was just entering a golden age.
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>>805876
because it was full of jews who wased themselves regularly
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Because they had shitty record keeping and didn't document the numbers of their dead.
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>>805876
Why was Milan spared?
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>>805876

The Jews weren't going to poison their own wells, duh.
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>>805897
>Bullshit, it was just entering a golden age.
Golden age for pollacks means that they've lived in mudhuts instead of shithuts.
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Even the Plague doesn't want to go to Poland.
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>>805967

Is this what they call butthurt? Haha le slavs were richer than le epic germanicpros.
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>>805897
>it was just entering a golden age
Pretty sure that happened quite a while after the Jagiellons took control.
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>>805876
Surprised there was only a minor outbreak in a place like Bruge and Milan.

Must've made some touch decisions and closed the damn gates in time.
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>>805876
>plague literally avoids pooland
Wew.
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>>805949
>Why was Milan spared?

I would be interested to know that as well - I just did not address it in the OP since the Poland gap is so much more jarring and I wanted to keep the focus tight.

Also because any mention of Poland polarizes everyone and as a long time 4chan user I get a lot of pleasure from seeing rude, insult-based pretend-discourse.

In retrospect, Milan's safety is more interesting though since it's in the real thick of it instead of being more in the bubonic suburbs like Poland.
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>>806185
>Pretty sure that happened quite a while after the Jagiellons took control.

Kazimierz the Great set it on the course toward the golden age.
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Casimir III ordered a quarantine like Milan except country-wide, probably aided by Poland's irrelevance and the lack of interest by merchants or whoever would want to go there.
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>>805876
The bubonic plague thrived in the extremely dirty and unhygienic cities and towns of Europe, Poland didn't have any of those.
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>>806306
they had a very effective quarantine, basically shutting the city down
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>>805967
ahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahah
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>>805967
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>plauge avoids poland
just like today :^)
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Ayy
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>>805876
> What, Poland got away with everything scot free? REEEEEEEEEEE

Deus, circa MDC
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>>809384
more like MDCC or before MDCCC. That's when everything's gone into shitter.
t. Pole
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>>809396
Well the Deluge couldn't have been a walk in the park Jan
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>>809406
Well, you're right, but under proper rule the country still could've been saved... unfortunately, of 6 kings we've got after the last Vasa, only one was competent - and that was mainly in military matters.
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>>809417
That's what you got for trying to back-stab Austria when the Ottomans attacked.
(P.S, return volvo pls)
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Every area that wasn't retarded quarantined themselves and blocked all entry into their lands.
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>>809375
Lel.
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>>809417
>only one was competent - and that was mainly in military matters.

Jan III was all around competent. Despite being a typical magnate from what's today Ukraine, he understood that the key to political and economic security was in the Baltic. That's why he wanted to shift attention towards North and smash Brandenburg-Prussia before it's too late. Unfortunately his plans had to be abandoned because the Ottomans just had to stick their cock into our history, so he spent the rest of his reign fighting them.

Had Stanisław I Leszczyński and Stanisław II Poniatowski ruled in better times, they would be also remembered as decent to excellent rulers. Only the two Saxon kings were utter disaster. They were hated so much that only Russian bayonets kept them on the throne.
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Population density I'd imagine

The same thing happened in Ireland contrary to the map. Since the Norman settlers mostly lived in the bustling Dublin and the Irish were semi-nomadic pastoralists or lived in small hamlets it barely affected them. The disparity in how the two groups were affected made some Normans think that the plague was some kind of magic weapon or curse from the Irish.
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>>806758
>probably aided by Poland's irrelevance and the lack of interest by merchants or whoever would want to go there.

It was already time of Vistula and Hanseatic trade. Plus, Casimir III oversaw a massive urbanization programme with almost one hundred new cities founded and Krakow growing into one of Europe's foremost cities. Calling mid 14th century Poland "irrelevant" is a /pol/-level bullshit.
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>>809453
>Had Stanisław I Leszczyński and Stanisław II Poniatowski ruled in better times, they would be also remembered as decent to excellent rulers.
Leszczyński sure, it was his feud with the Wettins that didn't let him shine, but Poniatowski?
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That moron would've find a way to ruin Poland even in the Golden Age.
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>>809460
Up until 1650s Poland proper had very similar population figures to England.
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>>805967
literally this desu senpai
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>>806306
because of effective quarantine measures

there were a number of intelligent people who realized that controlling who comes into the nation would effectively limit the spread of disease
that combined with rapid attacks on any outbreaks to limit there spread at the source rather than letting them fester among the under-class as many nations did.

Milan was highly centralized and its people in general were fairly wealthy so it made control and quarantine easier. than is someplace like Paris which was filled with slums
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>>809473
Poniatowski was smart, conscious of what had to be done. Several of his personal ideas were excellent, like municipal councils, permanent cabinet. He was in the center of the reform movement.

He was largely powerless because of horrible conditions he had to contend with. He was intentionally put on the throne as an irrelevant puppet, literally lacking money for food for his royal household.
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>>809488
He was literally spawn of satan that tried to destroy the country.
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>>809488
t. Stanisław August Poniatowski
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>>805876
Would the Rus' states have fared better against the plague if they weren't under the Mongol yoke?
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Is the green area in Northern Spain Navarre? Always conquered that region in CK2 for the King title, when I played as a HRE vassal.
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>>805967
>>807050
>>809340
>>809375
>>805879

All that butthurt.
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>>805876
>>805949
>>806192
>>806306

For Poland/Milan both: Quarantines.
Additional plus for Poland: Population density.

That said, they still got hit, they just didn't get hit as badly as everywhere else.
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>>805876
They're gods chosen people
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>>805932

It's very likely that the lack records. Looking at the significant increase in wages of workers hired in the cities immediately after the plague in Poland, we can conclude that (like in other countries) there were not enough people to work because of the pandemic.
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>>805954
The Jews moved to Eastern Europe after The Plague you retard
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