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What's wrong with Slav's Nationalism ? Why they prefer being tiny irrelevant shit holes instead of a strong unitary entity ?
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made up countries for made up nations by made up histories
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Following that logic the whole world should unite in a meganation
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>>804995
Only the genocide against alboshits and mudslims can unite us.
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Half of those countries aren't even slavic.
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>>804995
There's always this one person with bad English who comes into these threads to shit on Balkanites.
I suspect it's a Turk.
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>>805003
But Slav nationalism was took advantaged by great powers so many times in the past, to cultivate seeds of chaos and gave them casus belli to intervene (Russi-Serbia WW I, Hitler- Slovak Ww II, Murica-Kosobo ), which is very bad
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>>805032
Which post ?
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>>805095
OP
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>>805114
I don't see any bad English here
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>>805006
Only albania and greece aren't slav.
Romanians are slavs in denial.
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>>805214
Romanians are the true heirs to the Roman Empire.
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>>805246
>Romanians
They are European version of Poo in Loo
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>>805000
Not a Balkanian but how are they made up nations? Serbs, Croatians, Bulgarians etc already existed in the middle ages.
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>>805032
>one person
A lot of people shit on the Balkanites.

Which isn't fair since some of them are good people, like Croats.
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>>805297
We genocide muslims here. Some people don't like it, and it's understandable.
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>>805246
No.

>>805274
Ebic:D
I suspect you're a butthurt horsefucker
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>>805000
>trips wasted on a shitpost
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>>804995
Agreed OP. All slavs should unite under Bulgarian rule.
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>>805003
Yes. Star Trek has the right idea. Problem?
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>>805297
>running actual concentration camps for ethnic enemies
>performing complete ethnic cleansings
>many are proud of these events and unrepentant
>never forced to acknowledge crimes
wew @ good people
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>>805531
They killed Jews and Gypsies, pretty much pest control.
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>>805531
you don't even need flags to guess who is behind this post
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What OP calls Slav nationalism is in fact Slav chauvinism (or imperialism).

True nationalism is about the proliferation of nation-states. Since Balkan is populated by several distinct nations, it should be divided into several states.

Russia is a good example of a multi-national state that has russified many of the smaller and indigenous ethnicities.

So what is wrong with Slav Nationalism? It is usually just a cultural and social domination of one ethnic group over others which in turn is not respectful of the other nations and their will to prosper.
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>>805602
>your ethnicity automatically disqualifies your argument
k senpai
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>>804995
>What's wrong with Slav's Nationalism?
Its a fertile ground of racism and propaganda. Also you have batshit crazy Serbs who will murder anyone who identifies as Muslim or non-Slavic in the Balkans.

Lots of propaganda as well as controversies of stuff like Croatian origins being Germanic or Iranic also being suppressed and their academia ignored.
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>>805657
no but its an ad hominem that isnt even half bad because there is no point in arguing with certain nationalities because they have unbreakable bias
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>>805657
Yes. Serbs, Germans and Turks have nothing interesting to say anyway.

I probably should've just say turks since Germans and Serbs are 100% turks too
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>>805740

The Western concensus is that all of those cultures are ethnically Balkan (Illyrian, Thracian, Dacian, part Celtic), but that distinct identities formed from. The only requirement to being Slavic is speaking a Slavic language, so Croats and Slovenes can't properly claim to be non-Slavic.

Claiming Croats are "muh Iranian/German Aryan" is like a Macedonian claiming Alexander or Serb claiming "first written language on Earth" based on Vinca signs. It's nationalist idiocy - the whole reason that is popular is because Croatn nationalism is defined by the need to distance themselves from Serbs and Orthodoxy as far as possible.
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>>805756
holy shit, fantastic observation anon
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>>805761
Except Croatian and Iranian link are actually well documented since the the early days of the Acahaemenid dynasty. Slavic culture is linked by culture, not race. And that's what happened to Romanians and Croats, their language was assimilated by Serbs and other Slavs.
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>>805823
I think I'll add Croats to this list >>805756

They're also practically turks.
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>>805829
Thanks /pol/cuck but I'm not a Croat.
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>>805823
>Except Croatian and Iranian link are actually well documented since the the early days of the Acahaemenid dynasty.
Please link a reliable, scholarly source that claims this.

>Slavic culture is linked by culture, not race.
Mostly untrue. The race bit is correct, but language is literally the only significant factor when discussing Slavic cultures. The culture of the Sorb minority in Germany is very very close to the local German culture but is very different from Russian culture, despite both being Slavic nations.
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>>805956
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/articles/identity_croatians_ancient_iran.php
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>>804995
The problem is that slavs hate moslems, kebab, west europeans, russians and the slavs around them.
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>>805761
but actually Turks are Surbs, bulgarians and etc because they took them for Jannisarys
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>>806025
This. People don't realize (or purposely ignore) that Turks of Asia minor are ethnically very close to Balkan shits.

Atatürk himself was a Balkan shit.
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>>806073
>Atatürk himself was a Balkan shit
He was a donmeh(jew who converted to islam).
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>>806006
Not quite true, Serbians love Russia for example.
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WE WUZ KHANS N SHIET
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>>805761
>Slovenes can't properly claim to be non-Slavic
I've never heard any Slovene say he wasn't Slavic. Slovene is a Slavic language, after all.
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>>805297
Seconding this.
Croats are nice. They have a pretty country which they are glad to share with you for for some tourism dollars, and they never bitch at you for being an imperialist dog.
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>>806559
>they never bitch at you for being an imperialist dog
maybe that's cause they never had their country bombed to the ground for the sake of your international interests :^)
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>>804995
There was no all-powerful metropole in the region to suppress and unite everyone to accept and adopt their particular language and civic culture, like Paris over France, Berlin over Germany, etc.
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>>805127
>Why they prefer being tiny...
Op needs a do in there.
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>>807178
maybe because they didn't go committing genocide after ww2 :^)
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Moldavia isn't Balkan
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>>807431
oh but they did :^)
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>>807431

Funny that you have that "after WW2", because their WW2 crimes were the worst ethnic cleansing the Balkans had ever seen.

Not only is your statement not correct, but the Croats take pride in their ethnic cleansing even more than Serbs do, and nobody ever bombed their country.

Try again.
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>>807431
they did, they were just on the NATO side
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>>807522
>were the worst ethnic cleansing the Balkans had ever seen
>what is 1878
>what is 1913
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>>807750

>1878
Highest estimate of Turks displaced is 700000-750000, 200000-216000 killed

>1913
Nobody knows how many Thracian Bulgarians there actually were

>WWII
Yugoslav statistical analysis from 1964 shows an estimate of 750000-780000 Serbs killed by Croats, total displaced population is unknown
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buml
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>>807994

Vladimir Žerjavić: "Opsesije i megalomanije oko Jasenovca i Bleiburga.

Read it and stop shilling.
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>>805399
>Problem?
The fact that you're a nigger
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what's up with all these balkan threads the past couple of days?
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>>810564
Turkroach damage control
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>>810545
>Croat scholar
>contradicts Socialist documentation
>his estimated Bosnian War death toll is more than double any other estimate
>somehow Jasenovac numbers are trustworthy
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