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We once were on /tg/. We once were on /k/. Now we have this, to discuss the glorious art of Cold Steel and dickstabing.
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That last one was 19th century armor, from Southeast Asia. Tibet or Bhutan region.

This is a Saber Halberd. Long held to be a weird Victorian mishmash of weapons, several have now been discovered dating to the 30 Years War.
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>>79836
For the weebs out there, anime armor. A later style of plate, characterized by riveted strips forming what a solid piece of steel would form in traditional plate. Popular among Polish Hussars, because it's stylish as fuck.
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>>79879
Self explanatory.
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>>79893
World War 1 trench weapons. Generally they were purchased by soldiers and brought as extra weapons, or sent by family. Factories were dedicated to churning these things out. Some also appear to have been constructed on sight from scrap.
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>>79931
Japanese helmet, made from a Spanish or Portuguese morion and enameled in the local style.
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Ignore this disgrace of an image. Somewhere along the line I downloaded a glorified thumbnail.
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Part of KM's collection, if the deck is any indication.
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>>80177
I am unfortunately drawn away. If the thread survives somehow, when I return I will try and continue my dump.
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An Indian Katara with dual flint-lock pistols attached to its side.
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>>82766
Another Katara similar to this one
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i love this thread. i love you guys
if only i had OC to post though..
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>>82804
Now for some Chakrams, these ones are on a Nihang Sikh's conic turban. Looks like there are some small, seemingly decorative weapons on it too.
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>>82869
Another more decorated and close up Chakram
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>>82917
Now lets move on to Patas, they're like gauntlet sword hybrids. Apparently they tended to be made with heavy European blades but I have no credible source for this.
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>>83039
Another Pata
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>>83069
Close up on the hilt(?) of this one
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>>83069
Next weapon is the Bhuj,which is sort of hard to describe. Like a mini spear with a knife blade?
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>>83205
More Bhuj stuff
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>>83219
This is the Bagh Nakh, a weapon used in hand-to-hand combat that was supposedly inspired by tiger claws.
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>>79931
Why was a club favored?

Especially when everybody was wearing steel helmets?
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>>83369
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If you're interested in decent and cheap-ish reproductions, Hanwei has a decent selection.
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>>83219
That feels like the evolution of an axe to me. Built by people that mostly use axes but more for slicing skin than people.
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>>83606
For slicing meat rather than wood, I meant.
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>>83447
A Nagni spear, used to kill elephants.
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>>80047
this is some cool shit, but how effective would it be?
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>>83628
I have yet to find a second decent picture for a Nagni as long as I had these pictures so instead take this digital painting of how one would kill elephant cavalry with one.
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>>83606
I believe its full name is the Bhuj Axe, so you would be correct in that regard by name at least.
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>>83697
I think the best way to describe it would be a "butcher's axe". That's basically what it is - a butcher's blade on an axe handle.

Come to think of it it'd be a great weapon for an RPG or game like Dark Souls.
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>>83631
what do you mean "effective"?
the blade shape leaves a nasty wound after a stab and acts like a serrated blade at a slash. but would it penetrate armor, is that what you're asking?
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>>83764
Interesting, never thought of it that way but looking back at it that explanation makes sense.

>>83677

Now for the Khanda, a heavy sword used to hack at leather and drive back elephants.
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>>83920
I believe it was traditionally used by the Rajputs
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>>79893
How badly could these really fuck you up?
It seems like it might hurt a bit but nothing to take you out of battle.
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>>83381
Not many ways you can fuck up using a club compared to a trench knife or a hatchet
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>>83947
Urumi, Sword with thin whip-like blades
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http://strawpoll.me/5908001

should mods enable IDs?!?
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>>83984
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotational_energy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_depth
as you can see it depended on armor (and flesh/bone) density. slings would do a very fast (and strong) throw towards the enemy. even a strong enough wood ball can fuck your shit up

>>84102
>>>/qa/ pls
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>>83984
>http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1032&context=anthrotheses
>Based on these examples, sling velocity falls within the same range as the angular
composite bows (45 m/s average, McEwen and Bergman 1986), but significantly less
than the more advanced composite bows of the Ottoman Empire (Kurpowicz 2006).
Slings would outperform self bows (at least that used by McEwen and Bergman, self
bows are highly variable, ranging from low draw weight hunting implements to the
famous English longbow), atlatl-and-dart systems, and hand-launched javelins by
significant margins
To sum it up, at proper range they're pretty fucking deadly, and sometimes can even penetrate targets.
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>>84092
And finally an Indian Tulwar, of what I think is Wootz. I still have a bit more stuff to share but I don't want to post more than I already have done so. I've already spammed a good bit of the thread(sorry about that) so it's best if I add some more stuff later than now.
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>>84183
Wow, I fucked up that greentext. Another quote:
>The review of biomechanical modeling has shown that sling projectile lethality is dependant on projectile material and design. Impacts from effectively designed sling projectiles can be expected to fracture a wide range of human bone, including at long range. Dense lead projectiles can be expected to penetrate exposed human skin at all ranges, and biconical clay projectiles could penetrate skin at close range. The potential for sling projectiles to cause soft tissue blunt trauma is inconclusive, but appears likely based on ethnographic and historical accounts as well as the levels of lethality indicated by the penetration and direct fracture modeling. These lines of evidence show that slings would be effective weapons in warfare and that use in warfare would likely lead to an evolution of projectile design.
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>>83984
Given that they're a couple pounds of lead swung around in a nice piece of leather until they're going turbofast, they could fuck you up.
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>>83827
I think he's asking whether it would cut as well as a regular sword, or would it be more for leaving gruesome slashes
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>>84563
It'd leave pretty good cuts, if you could do a J-stroke.

Like all swords, it won't do shit to heavier armor unless you're thrusting through a gap.
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An old fav of mine
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>>84216
>wootz
show the blades comrade
>>83369
heh, my grandmother had one of these.
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>>80002
That connection to the main cutting blade looks super weak. Like weak enough to bend or break on a thrust weak. I'm guessing its a ceremonial one though.
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>>84092
I seriously love this sword desu, but mastering it's use would've been a serious pain in the ass, specially when trying to not hurt yourself.
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>>82804
These are wielded by sick cunts exclusively. Real sikh cunts.
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>>84183
Thanks for the paper, about halfway through it now.
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>>83381
Club = instant concussion against helmeted people.
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