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>Dyḗus Ptḗr
"The Shining Sky Father" is the most important deity of the Proto-Indo-Europeans. His very name is related to *déiwos – he is the god. It is recognizable in the Roman Jupiter, Oscan Dípatír, Umbrian Iupater ((((Weiss))), 2010, 211), Sabellian Dipoteres, Marrucinian Ioues patres, Greek Zeus Pater, Illyrian Dei-paturos (or Dei patyro: Winn, 1995, 22), Vedic Dyaus Pitar, Baltic Dievas, Luvian Tatis Tiwaiz, Palaic Tiyaz Pāpaz, and Germanic *Tiwaz (later Týr). (Some of these are from West, 2007, 166-7.) Among the Scyths he was just Papaeus, "Father" (Herodotus, 4.59). The Russian Svarog may be a calque, since it seems to derive from Iranian origins with a meaning of “Shining One” (Zaroff, 1999, 51); regardless of the Iranian form of the name, the deity is clearly Slavic. In other words, memories and versions of him survived in almost all the IE cultures, which shows how important he was.

http://www.ceisiwrserith.com/pier/deities.htm
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>Dyḗus Ptḗr’s name has “father in it.” This is the most common title of Dyaus pitar in the Rig Veda.

http://www.ceisiwrserith.com/pier/deities.htm

>1. I PRAISE with sacrifices mighty Heaven (Dyaus) and Earth at festivals, the wise, the Strengtheners of Law.
Who, having Gods for progeny, conjoined with Gods, through wonder-working wisdom bring forth choicest boons.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv01159.htm
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>implying that i need some kind of a statue in order to recognize and glorify the Logos
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>the Strengtheners of Law.

>Dyḗus Ptḗr is the transcendent lord. He is the protector of the Xártus, the enforcer of natural law. At Sparta there was a temple to Zeus Cosmetas, “Zeus the Orderer” (Pausanias 3.17.4). Dyḗus Ptḗr may therefore be called Xártupotis, "Lord of the Xártus."

http://www.ceisiwrserith.com/pier/deities.htm

>[1] At libations to Zeus what else should rather be sung than the god himself, mighty for ever, king for evermore, router of the Pelagonians, dealer of justice to the sons of Heaven?

http://www.theoi.com/Text/CallimachusHymns1.html
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>Zeus is the first. Zeus the thunderer, is the last.
Zeus is the head. Zeus is the middle, and by Zeus all things were fabricated.
Zeus is male, Immortal Zeus is female.
Zeus is the foundation of the earth and of the starry heaven.
Zeus is the breath of all things. Zeus is the rushing of indefatigable fire.
Zeus is the root of the sea: He is the Sun and Moon.
Zeus is the king; He is the author of universal life;
One Power, one Dæmon, the mighty prince of all things:
One kingly frame, in which this universe revolves,
Fire and water, earth and ether, night and day,
And Metis (Counsel) the primeval father, and all-delightful Eros (Love).
All these things are United in the vast body of Zeus.
Would you behold his head and his fair face,
It is the resplendent heaven, round which his golden locks
Of glittering stars are beautifully exalted in the air.
On each side are the two golden taurine horns,
The risings and settings, the tracks of the celestial gods;
His eyes the sun and the Opposing moon;
His unfallacious Mind the royal incorruptible Ether.
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>His eyes the sun and the Opposing moon

http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/af/af10.htm

>the sun can be the eye of Dyḗus Ptḗr, with which he looks down from the sky.
>In some Indo-European languages, the word for “sun” has become that for “eye;”
>In Hesiod (Works and Days, 267-9), it is the “eye of Zeus” who sees all and punishes injustice, but Helios is sometimes called the “eye of Zeus” (Sick, 2004, 434)
>The sun in Zoroastrianism is called the eye of Ahura Mazda, who, as the supreme god there, would be the equivalent of Dyḗus Ptḗr (Sick, 2004, 449).
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O Father Jove, who shak'st with fiery light the world deep-sounding from thy lofty height:
From thee, proceeds th' ætherial lightning's blaze, flashing around intolerable rays.
Thy sacred thunders shake the blest abodes, the shining regions of th' immortal Gods:
Thy pow'r divine, the flaming lightning shrouds, with dark investiture, in fluid clouds.
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>>959735
'Tis thine to brandish thunders strong and dire, to scatter storms, and dreadful darts of fire;
With roaring flames involving all around, and bolts of thunder of tremendous sound.
Thy rapid dart can raise the hair upright, and shake the heart of man with wild afright.
Sudden, unconquer'd, holy, thund'ring God, 'with noise unbounded, flying all abroad;

http://www.theoi.com/Text/OrphicHymns1.html#18
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>>959724
>1 I WILL declare the manly deeds of Indra, the first that he achieved, the Thunder-wielder.
He slew the Dragon, then disclosed the waters, and cleft the channels of the mountain torrents.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv01032.htm
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>15 Indra is King of all that moves and moves not, of creatures tame and horned, the Thunder-wielder.
Over all living men he rules as Sovran, containing all as spokes within the felly.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv01032.htm
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>As Buddhism expanded in Central Asia and fused with Hellenistic influences into Greco-Buddhism, the Greek hero Heracles was adopted to represent Vajrapāni. He was then typically depicted as a hairy, muscular athlete, wielding a short "diamond" club. Buddhaghosa associated Vajrapāni with the deva Indra.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajrapani
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I Call the mighty, holy, splendid light, aerial, dreadful-sounding, fiery-bright;
Flaming, aerial-light, with angry voice, lightning thro' lucid clouds with horrid noise.
Untam'd, to whom resentments dire belong, pure, holy pow'r, all-parent, great and strong:
Come, and benevolent these rites attend, and grant my days a peaceful, blessed end.

http://www.theoi.com/Text/OrphicHymns1.html#18
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>>959738
>Above all, he is armed with a club, axe, and/or aerial weapon, which he throws.

http://www.ceisiwrserith.com/pier/deities.htm
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>>959785
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How is Tyr the sky father? Isn't it thor?
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>>959891
Despite what neo-bagans will tell you, there are not neat analogs between the gods of the various permutations of the PIER and the Germanic pantheon is one such example. Tyr originally was considered the supreme deity before being usurped by Odin but neither of them were associated with thunder in the way Thor was. The Romans claimed Tyr was the Germanic Mars, Odin the Germanic Mercury and Thor as Jupiter although none of these really make sense because Tyr was associated with legalistic order as opposed to warfare and unlike Mercury, Odin was seen as a war god and Thor never exercised leadership over the other gods in the same way Jupiter did. Suffice it to say that while there are similar motifs between the various PIER pantheons, they are also each a distinct reflection of the local beliefs of the people in their respective regions.
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>>959714
Amen.
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>>959714
I take it that by Logos you are refering to Zeus? Because thats what Heraclitus and the Stoics called him before the Christian usurpation...
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>>959891
Tyr isn't the sky father. His name just means 'god', going back to Proto-Indo-European *deywos, cognate with Latin deus, Sanskrit deva, from the root *dyew- 'sky, heaven'

The sky father's name consists of Proto-Indo-European *dyḗws 'sky, heaven, day' + *ph2tḗr 'father', giving Latin Jupiter, Sanskrit Dyauṣ-Pitṛ, and ancient Greek Zeu Pater, later shortened to just Zeus.

The sky-father's relatively obscure outside of Greek and Roman myth, the merging of him and the thunder god is probably a Mediterranean innovation.

>>959964
There's an interesting legendary account of a war between the Romans and Etruscans where a one eyed warrior named Horatius Cocles keeps an army from crossing a bridge with his paralyzing stares. Later in the war another warrior named Gaius Mucius Scaevola loses a hand by swearing a false-oath to the Etruscan king that convinces him to sue for peace.
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