What exactly caused the collapse of the hippie movement? Even though the war ended why didn't the lifestyle continue?
It did. Plenty of communes on west coast. Even if it toned down after all the war and sex and drugs and music, it was passed on to their children.
>>754538
Was punk and mosh pit culture a result of the hippie movement?
>>754484
It didn't collapse, it became the mainstream.
>promiscuity/polygamy
>atheism/New Age bullshit
>no personal responsibility
>drugs are ok
>The Man/Patriarchy is to blame for everything
>>754548
Exactly, the Jews won, the traditionalists lost. After years of promoting "free speech," when they finally got the public to accept their dogma, they banned it with campus speech codes and the like.
>Peace, love, and freedom, man! And if you don't like it we will fire your ass.
Literally Communist bullshit. Kill yourself if you fell for this Jewish trap.
>>754548
This all wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the Vietnam War
>>754548
By the mainstream, you mean the majority of the Democrats?
Because there are a lot of people who don't go for all that.
Whether conservative, centrist, or just a different part of the Democratic party.
New Democrats were the ones who started what has now become the societal standards, at least for liberals.
The no personal responsibility thing is mostly just a generational trend. After having a generation raised by parents that were around during the world wars, there was bound to be a shift in society. It just so happened that it was a shift against the standards of before.
>>754656
It happened outside of the political spectrum of the day. It was mostly due to Jewish subversion in the media and in academia. The Democratic Party wouldn't have dared to say all of that stuff in the 60s. They would have lost all of their support if they did.
I know some people don't like "the Jews" as an answer, but there is no other explanation. The Hippy movement was an outgrowth of the Communist movement, which was the CPUSA in America, which was heavily Jewish. The NAACP was also heavily Jewish, with no black men on the board when it was created. The folk music scene was another outgrowth of Jewish Communism, which ironically was not folk music at all. Bob Dylan and his manager Albert Grossman are probably the best example. All of these Jewish forces coalesced to form the vanguard against Christian America. It was an attack from the media, academia, the Civil Rights Movement, and the entertainment industry. Outside of the spectacle they created things were more or less normal. Imagine it like a rock concert: many guys have long hair there, but in the real world they don't. You are getting a skewed reality from Jewish sources.
There is no way around it: it was entirely Jewish; nothing like that spontaneously happens. It was an ideological revolution, where America went from a Christian conservative nation to a Communist sexually liberated shithole in the matter of a decade.
>>754737
I know you say it's not the juice but it's the juice because the juice did this and that but the juice won't tell you they did this and that because they are juice, also, there's this change and it's made by the juice because there's nobody else that could make this except for the juice.
The hippie lifestyle's not dead. It's still around if you look... In college, I lived in a co-op for several years. Met a lot of interesting folks. Hippies, hipsters, and artists. Some are still friends to this day. It was a cozy life. I sold weed and mushrooms and anything else I could get my hand on. I did not partake of degenerate sex, however, because I was weary of the metaphysics of love having read Evola. I'd likely still be living that lifestyle today I hadn't ended up going insane after doing MDPV for two weeks in a row and eating three vials of acid cause I thought the movie Lucy was about my life and I was Scarlett Johannson. Anyway, moved back home and parents made me cut my hair and wear a monkey sut and get a job. C'est la vie.
>>754763
Yes, minus the condescension you are spot on. Congratulations, you are learning something.
>>754737
>da joos
Man if 2% of the world population is skullfucking white culture then white people are genetically inferior and shit at seld preservation. Jews must be killin' the game right now.
>>754763
He's right about the CPUSA, which was never very large and which was domianted by Jews.
Folk music if the late 20th century is mostly Communist propaganda, the modern versions of many folk songs have undergone significant revisions since their initial composition, and many were given a Communist/violently pro-labor spin, with differing levels of subtlety. John Henry is one example.
Bob Dylan and his manager being Jewish is undeniable.
>>754799
Jews are overrepresented in every area that post highlights so that percentage isn't very important in the end, tbqh
>>754799
The difference is that white people don't all belong to one cohesive group. A Jew will help a Jew for being Jewish, white people will not do the same for another white person. The problem is essentially boiled down to factions. White people may outnumber the Jews, bit no single faction of theirs matches the Jewish faction's strenght (which is more or less undivided, even across seemingly disparate ideologies, like Communism [Marx] and Neoconservatism [Irving Kristol]). Two percent of the population doesn't sound like much, but when they are centralized through hierarchical structures, like the ADL, AJC, Kehillah, Kahal, Sanhedrin, etc., long-term strategies can be implemented and resources pooled together to facilitate those ends.
Nice strawman pic, by the way. That sure showed me.
>>754949
Nah dude the strawmam pic is essentially makinh fun of strawmanning.
Listen I'm not white and not in a white country so I don't care about what people like you do. But it just seems to me that white nationalism is the biggest dindu nuffin of all time. If Jews are extremely cohesive like that and can infiltrate white governments easily, you guys are shit. Jews have been in positions of power in white society for a looonnnggg time, even when pogroms were the norm in Europe. Maybe they are just better than you guys?
I also find it extremely hard to believe far leftist Jews like Chomsky and borderline fascist Jews like some intellectuals in Israel are a 'cohesive' group desu, but I'm going off your logic. If Jews have been that cohesive and don't outjew each other then their solidarity is to be admired. Maybe if whites had 1/8th of that things would be better right? Maybe you should stop being a dindu and blaming an oppressor.
>>754484
Nixon ended the draft. And thus the hippie became the yuppie
>>754977
I'm not a white nationalist. Honestly, white nationalism has always been co-opted by Jews and intelligence agencies, going all the way back to the Ku Klux Klan. They played both sides of the Civil Rights dispute, and were the primary instigators of racial tension in the first place. White nationalism is nonsense and has no bearing in reality. White people have done nothing but kill white people for most of our existence. I am against the problems that Jewish influence has created, therefore I am against Jews. I am not racist in any other sense, and the ones on /pol/ who are are idiots. Even though black people do commit a disproportionate amount of crime, if you got rid of black people, our fundamental problems would still be here. It is a red herring, and not a particularly ingenious one.
Commercialism and Heroin here in SF.
>>754548
>promiscuity/polygamy
Promiscuity always existed, and polygamy hasn't been in fashion for centuries.
>atheism/New Age bullshit
I don't see how scientific materialist atheism is a hippie thing. Either way, neither of these things are the majority.
>no personal responsibility
blah blah blah, this is just you whining
>drugs are ok
Society always used drugs. Alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, opiates, sedatives. It just doesn't called them capital-d DRUGS if they're legal. Secondly, you're conflating all opposition to the methods of the war on drugs with acceptance of drug use, which aren't the same thing.
>The Man/Patriarchy is to blame for everything
Who would have thought that the people in charge should be accountable for shit when it fucks up? But of course, personal responsibility is gone. You're tripping over yourself.
>>754949
Jews aren't members of one cohesive group either, you retard. You think Chomsky likes Israel? You think orthodox and liberal jews get along? You think Jews in israel don't bitch about Hasidic Jews as if they're niggers?
>>754576
The seeds were sown decades prior, the war and conscription just kickstarted things
>>755870
You sound angry. Is there something you'd like to get off your chest?
>>754484
I'm a hippie. The lifestyle is up and going. It's just not novekty anymore.
>>754543
Yes. Punk was a rebellion against "hippy".
Go to a gathering or go talk to some dirty kids with big backpacks and dogs. It's still alive and well. Plenty of communes around, too.
>>754548
Actually the opposite happened, it stopped being mainstream. Think about it.
>>756064
Are you dirty, conventionally homeless and disdainful of the dollar bill? If not, you're not a hippie, you just smoke weed and have dreads. Not that that's a bad thing or anything, there's nothing superior nor inferior about living on the road or in the woods.
>>755881
Jews are all part of one cohesive group. Their group is based on economic and political exploitation, not ideology or religion. All of the conflicting ideologies are for show. They are overrepresented in the Neoconservative movement and all Liberal movements. Chomsky et al are there to mislead. They will agree with something with words, but when it comes time for action it is inevitably revealed as lies.
For example, Israel says they apologize for the Irgun carrying out the King David Hotel Bombing, but Menachem Begin, who headed it, was still made prime minister. The Likud party is full of members that were in the Irgun or Stern Gang, both of which were outright terrorist groups. Israel says "not all Jews," but when it comes time to democratically elected a leader, it turns out that, yes, it is indeed all Jews.
Also, look at immigration: both parties (based off of Jewish intellectuals like Irving Kristol) in the U.S. are pro immigration. The precedent was set in 1965 with the Hart-Cellar Immigration Act. Israel almost exclusively only accepts Jews into their country (which is based on race, not religion, by the way, proving even they think of themselves as a racial group). So it's immigration for the goyim across the board, but no immigration at all for Israel. It's almost like they don't really believe what they are saying. It's almost like they are doing that thing people always accuse them of: lying.
>>756204
>Actually the opposite happened, it stopped being mainstream. Think about
No, he's right. Some of the style and culture died off, but the ideology has almost all been implemented. From drug legalization to sexual liberation this is true.
>Go to a gathering or go talk to some dirty kids with big backpacks and dogs. It's still alive and well. Plenty of communes around, too.
A bunch of low class, lying, thieving druggies. They will be the first to tell you about "oneness" and the first ones to steal your shit when you look the other way. They are almost all idiots, and the only thing profound about them is their lack of hygiene. They are literally high on Jewish bullshit.
>>756218
Chomsky is not allowed in Israel and far-left Israeli political parties are being repressed. There has been a flight of left-wing Jewish intellectuals from Israel in the last six years due to political repression, mostly from Israelis who view the fact that their terrorist state maintaining the worlds largest open air prison and treating Palestinians like animals is wrong.
t. kike
>>756237
To add to this the Hadesh alliance in Israel is legit persecuted, with any leftist organization being under strict government surveillance and imprisonment on phony charges. Israel is an ultra nationalist fucking looney bin, but the west never reports on it in that way. I don't understand why you think all Jews are some hivemind, when I was born I did not tap into the global Jewish consciousness or get my Jewish conspiracy shekels in the mail.
>>754484
Age
>>756229
I think you're confusing people being stoners and liberal with people ditching their lives in society and hitting the road. That's died down considerably since the 60s-70s.
>A bunch of low class, lying, thieving druggies.
I spent a few years on the road and have been to dozens of gatherings all over the country. You're completely wrong and talking out of your ass. Front Gate can be a little shady but that's the entire point behind Front Gate, accumulate a lot of the shit in one spot sortof like /b/ does here.
Generally everyone is respectful and treats each other like family. It's really refreshing when you've been hard on the road for a couple months to relax out in the woods with good people and no worries. They're all a little bit retarded and uneducated but pretty fucking cozy.
I don't see how jews are relevant considering they don't make any money off of hobo kids hanging out in the woods.
>>756229
>They are literally high on Jewish bullshit.
Go away /pol/.
>>756229
M8 I feel like you have some bad experiences or something. Not everyone that uses or even abuses drugs is like that. Being self destructive like that would be immoral from my point of view as well, but you're really generalizing here.
>>756262
>Not everyone that uses or even abuses drugs is like that.
Most aren't, actually. Most drug users work for a living, and they can be found in basically every strata of society.
>>756237
It's for show. It's all about the reactions people have and not about the actual words. All Jews being for Palestinian kids getting bombed would cast world Jewry in a very negative light. The Jews have mastered the art of making opposition appear to be there when in fact there is none. Every Jewish movement bears this out. There may have been Jews "against" Communism, but they are always helpless (i.e., never really tried) when it comes to actually stopping their brethren. It's just for show: "we tried." There has never been a Jewish movement or conspiracy stopped by Jews, let me put it that way.
>>756248
>I don't understand why you think all Jews are some hivemind, when I was born I did not tap into the global Jewish consciousness or get my Jewish conspiracy shekels in the mail.
I think you misunderstand me. I don't hate you for being Jewish. As I said here >>754949 , though, world Jewry has always been centralized. The Jews who legitimately disagree with Jewish plans (Bobby Fischer) are not treated well. Jewish power is hierarchical, meaning that even if a few Jews are sincere, it won't make any difference as long as the internationally connected Jews with lots of power hold the opposite opinion. It's like the relationship between a general and a conscripted private in the military: the private might not agree with everything, but his opinion is irrelevant anyhow. All prominent Jews are working together. There is no tension, only the illusion of it. This is because all ideological debates are really a facade covering up financial and cultural aims.
>>756251
>>756255
>>756262
>>756278
God damn hippies on my 4chan? Where is Nixon when you need him?
>>755870
Commutard spotted. Likely a Jew too.
>>755870
>war on drugs
Stopped right there.
>>756218
>All of the conflicting ideologies are for show.
>>756317
So Rabin was just taking one for the team by getting killed. And Netenyahu's secretly influencing US to make the Iran deal so that it'll give Isreal an excuse to attack Iran. And his beef with Obama is just for show to fool us goyim into thinking Obamas liberal jew backers disagree with right wing isrealis! It all makes so much sense now!
You underestimate how chaotic the world is and overestimate the ability of humans to exert control over it
>>754484
>this Whole fucking Thread
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
t Israeli
they switched from cannabis to cocaine
>>757772
It's stormfags from bumfuck flyover states who think that Jews, and not their own lack of intelligence, resourcefulness, or basic motivation are to blame for the fact that they still live with their parents at age 30.
>>754484
The original hippy movement was died in 1967. What came after was mainly mass media bullshit.
The hippy movement is alive and well, just as a hidden subculture these days. Doofs, Burning Man, Psytrance, Psyrock are probably bigger today than they were in the 60s.
There are great positives to the hippy lifestyle, everyone is generally positive and very friendly, people hug instead of shaking hands and tension is worked out through consensus rather than threats. Honestly go to a hippy festival out in some rural area for a week then come back to civilization and be ready for the biggest culture shock of your life, you have just spent a week where you can walk up and talk to people, have friendly conversations, life on a gift economy and then you come back to civilization and everyone is a fucking grouchy asshole. I remember after one week long festival on the drive back home and stopping off in McDonalds, the line was huge and wasn't moving anywhere so I just made a friendly quip on the situation to the person next too me and got "Fuck off, don't talk to me" in reply. Yep, supposed Civilization folks.
There are shit things in the hippy movement though, it's culturally and artistically stagnant as fuck, shit tonnes of /x/tier bullshit like anti-vaxx, chemtrails and NWO conspiracies, seedy junkie undercurrent of Meth and ridiculous amounts of actually offensive cultural appropriation, where entire cultures are twisted into a "Disney Cartoon" version of their actual selves.
There is a lot the world could learn from the hippy movement especially when it comes to social interaction, but the hippy movement isn't as progressive or creative as it likes to think it is.
>>754484
CIA stopped making LSD, made it illegal. Simple case of blowback, they were actually trying to subjugate like the Brits subjugated the chinks with opium.
>>760129
In other words, it even more bullshit now than it ever was back then.
>>760129
>There are great positives to the hippy lifestyle, everyone is generally positive and very friendly, people hug instead of shaking hands and tension is worked out through consensus rather than threats. Honestly go to a hippy festival out in some rural area for a week then come back to civilization and be ready for the biggest culture shock of your life, you have just spent a week where you can walk up and talk to people, have friendly conversations, life on a gift economy and then you come back to civilization and everyone is a fucking grouchy asshole. I remember after one week long festival on the drive back home and stopping off in McDonalds, the line was huge and wasn't moving anywhere so I just made a friendly quip on the situation to the person next too me and got "Fuck off, don't talk to me" in reply. Yep, supposed Civilization folks.
this is far more present through monasteries. hippies are too hedonistic to be deprived of avidity and aversion for more than a few minutes. hippies do not know equanimity. monks (attempt to) know equanimity of sensual pleasures, and work on equanimity of spiritual pleasures.
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/07/the-death-of-the-hippies/397739/
"Even at the time, though, Joe says he was “too sarcastic” to fully buy into the radical agenda. “The average person on the avenue was almost completely ignorant politically,” Joe says. “All they really cared about was drugs, drugs, drugs. They were nihilists and hedonists. They just supported anything that was against the establishment. There was no intellectual foundation. The spirit everyone had talked about—the feeling of love and new age and progressive politics—was dying a miserable death.”
>>754484
Because the music scene that made them popular in the first place got outcompeted in like 3 months by punk rock which was as anti-hippie as it gets, especially early on.
>>761189
They've learned from the jews it seems.
>>761194
Or, you know, the notion that Jews lie more than anyone else is propaganda created by historical pathological liars, you fucking imbecile.
>>761204
Poor irony is poor, sorry for it.
Women. Women joined the workforce or they got older and started wanting kids. Women are hypergamous, so they want a man who is more powerful or makes more than they do. Men responded by becoming yuppies.
>>761189
What are you talking about? My logic is flawless, and "anti-Semites" aren't the ones who have been historically stereotyped as liars. Even Christians with strong morals have called the Jews liars, like Martin Luther, with his book The "Jews and Their Lies." When hardcore Christians are calling you liars, that's probably exactly what you are.
>>761204
>It's not the Jews who are lying, it's those other people who are lying about Jews to discredit them for some reason.
Yeah, think of all of those other minorities accused of being liars. Oh, wait, there are none. When honest people call someone a liar, I'm inclined to listen, and when a bunch of them do it over many centuries and across many nations, I think it's quite obvious that it's true. Nobody just gets accused for no reason like that, and there is no parallel to the Jewish question.
>>761507
How did you come to this conclusion?
>>755870
Get a job, pinko.
>>756237
>>756248
That's the whole point, bud - leftism is for the stupid goys, they aren't going to tolerate that shit in Israel. It needs to be targeted at the people they aim to subjugate. Like the migrant shit. So many Jews advocating Muslim immigration to European nations. Why? To take care of the problem for them and create strife among their enemies. It's actually really smart and I don't fault them for doing it. Their strength relies on manipulation, deceit and treachery. Always has. They're getting their enemies to hate each other and kill each other. Source of all the funding and media moguls behind it all are Jewish but you won't see them pushing that shit on Israel.
>>754484
That pic is from the 2000s I think
>>754548
Polygamy isn't anywhere near the mainstream. "No personal responsibility" is an inherent consequence of individualist society.
>>762858
>Polygamy isn't anywhere near the mainstream.
Googling "legalize polygamy" brings up articles from Politico, Slate, the Washington Post, The Atlantic, Huffington Post, the Washington Examiner, and Vice, all of which are in favor of it.
Now, the notion (polygamy is completely fucking stupid and had a hand in the bronze age collapse) is completely absurd and Donald Trump's meteoric rise is proof that the American people are sick of the regressive left's bullshit, but that's neither here no there. Polygamy is on the Sorosoi's to do list, and there are wealthy people out there who would see it promoted in order to bring about the deleterious affects polygamy has upon society.
Is the Supreme Court going to legalize polygamy while Obama is still president? I'd eat my hat if they did. But it's certainly not "nowhere near mainstream".
>>756218
>Jews are all part of one cohesive group.
this is actually what poltards belives
>>762922
>Googling "legalize polygamy" brings up articles from Politico, Slate, the Washington Post, The Atlantic, Huffington Post, the Washington Examiner, and Vice, all of which are in favor of it.
Google literally anything and you'll get opinion pieces in all the usual millennial clickbait mills
>>762936
And those opinion pieces are read by millions of people.
Again, I'm not arguing that Strom Thurmond was right and desegregation lead to dogfucking or some other strawman, I'm saying that polygamy is not some obscure niche.
>>762922
just a quick question, why should polygamy be illegal? given that all the parties are consenting
>>762922
>polygamy is completely fucking stupid and had a hand in the bronze age collapse
Wat.
>>754484
Blame Reagan
>>756317
>Jewish power is hierarchical
WOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. HOW DID THEY DEVISE THIS PLAN???
>>754484
try taking acid for a month straight, get back
>>754484
The hangover.
>>762949#
consent is a liberal fantasy.
also, having plenty of lovers already exists, but not forbidding women to have several partners decreases their pleasures when they choose to be fucked by some man ready to please them. hedonists thrive on the violation of their rules, this is why they spend their day creating rules.
plus men being dumber than women, they tend to get attached, even when the woman does not want anything serious, so there is always the possibility of a brawl, if names are public
>>754548
>>promiscuity/polygamy
always been a thing
>>atheism/New Age bullshit
atheism is a different demographic and new age isn't common even among hippies
>>no personal responsibility
random bullshitting
>>drugs are ok
The vast majority of public opinion regarding drugs is bullshit
>>The Man/Patriarchy is to blame for everything
Have you ever spoken to a hippy? or a punk?
They laugh at SJWs, and thank "the man" for letting them be bums. They just don't like police, understandably.
Why is this thread on /his/?
It's /pol/shit.
>>754484
Speed and Heroin abuse was already getting bad by 1967. Further spread helped in it's demise.
>>754737
this guy gets it.
>>755202
The KKK doesn't like Jews either Shit head
consumerism backed by fiat fractional reserve banking (unsustainable paradigm)
>>754484
The Hippie movement didn't collapse.
They just stopped getting new blood in there, there's still millions of 45-75 year old geezers and grannies that still identify with typical new-age hippie shit.
>>757759
Hahaha wrap that post up in an envelope and send it to every conspiracy theorist in the world.
I dont mind the theories but people wrap themselves in it like a blanket. Close mindedness and the inability to see wrongness and exaggeration in ones own beliefs (read: Muh feelings) is a sure sign of insecurity and fear.
Because it was quickly brought under heel of the public relations research behemoth that invented the word "lifestyle" in the first place. They found new and more expensive things to sell to disaffected youth.
>>754548
>>drugs are ok
>implying psychedelics substances havent shapped humanity since for ever
go back to you containment board pls
isnt there a trump meme thread you should be memeing on or something?
>>754570
this is b8 right?
>>Peace, love, and freedom, man! And if you don't like it we will fire your ass.
thats literally what USA has always been all about
>>756229
>From drug legalization to sexual liberation
and do you think these things are bad?
>>756317
so your whole point is
>yeah some jews are bad people and have fucked shit up
is not really a jewish thing.
do you even humans?
all this time lost reading your shit, if you are being sincere, you are just obbsesed with a meme.
thats sad
>>757773
underrated post
we live in a /stim/ based world thanks to capitalism.
if people had sticked to psychedelics and sedatives maybe the world would be a better place.
