Learn the historical accuracy of the show: The Vikings, and the prediction of what to except for this coming season. Ft. History buff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBehjjt6V70
With a show like Vikings about something like vikings you have to fill in the blanks with some shit. Like nobody knows EXACTLY how the vikings breached the walls of Paris, I mean it probably wasn't the viking leader faked being a Christian, then faked his death to get a Christian burial inside Paris, then kidnapped the princess but they need a reason and at least that one is entertaining
>>721852
Just don't watch the show.
>>723461
Why not?
>>721852
this guy's youtube channel is retarded
Is real viking clothes really that bad? Why cant they ever get it right?
>>724369
because it's not cool or ebin enough
>>721852
>black Cleopatra in opening
I don't even care about the race of the Egyptians, but she was literally fucking Greek.
>>724382
Ancient Greeks were blacks anon, stop whitewashing everything.
There's literally no way for popular media to ever get history right. And don't even start with
> muh authentic clothing, muh authentic weapons
Popular media will always have to sacrifice historical accuracy for reasons of drama and audience comprehension. That's why Agamemnon in the movie Troy had to be a stereotypical Hollywood bad guy, hitting women etc. That's why you have medieval shows with super-feminist female characters that are completely out of place.
It's just not possible to ever get it completely right so enjoy it if you enjoy it and stop worrying about authenticity.
>>721872
Dude, it's not about "filling the blanks", that show is baically a fiction
-Ragnar and Rollo werent brothers, they didnt even live in the same era
-Ragnar attacked Paris in 845, Rollo attacked it in 885
-Rollo's attack on Paris was a failure
-Rollo wasnt offered Normandy after Paris but after another defeat at Chartres in 911
That's for the biggest "inaccuracies" so far, but expect many more
>>724369
because fur and black leather are far cooler
>>721852
>Alfred the Great is a cuckbaby.
Trashed the show at that moment desu.
>>724390
The biggest fiction you left out is that Ragnar probably didn't exist.
>>721852
>the prediction of what to except for this coming season
Well, we all know what's coming for that smug Viking bastard.
>>721852
>>721872
>>724386
Does Vikings even bother with a pretense of historical accuracy? I mean, yeah, it's ostensibly based on something historical, but it's so fantastical that I doubt getting the history right was ever part of the creators intentions.
>>721852
This show is horrible. From the ridiculous costumes and hairstyles to how ridiculously overpowered and superhuman the vikings are.
They could've at least gone all the way with making their 13 year old's wet dream show and make the vikings look like in pathfinder. I would've honestly preferred it that way. At least they're wearing armor for fucks sake.
>>724386
>There's literally no way for popular media to ever get history right.
Rome was mostly right. Aside from the Gauls looking a bit Asterix-y there wasn't anything that made you lose immersion. The changes to history were pretty understandable given the format.
>>724418
Even without that the show is garbage.
>everyone worships athelstan for absolutely no reason at all
>floki
>vikings are invincible while everyone else is made of butter
>those reddit tier costumes and hairstyles
But yeah, making alfred a cuckbaby is the cherry on top.
>>724386
>It's just not possible to ever get it completely right so enjoy it if you enjoy it and stop worrying about authenticity.
Yes, great mentality you have there, they feed you shit, it's impossible to stop feeding you shit because they're too lazy to make real food so stop whining and keep eating shit.
Historically accurate and authentic movies and shows do exist, there is absolutely no reason for Hollywood to keep butchering history and insulting human intelligence.
>>724495
It's based on a Norwegian legend, as far as I know, so historical accuracy probably isn't top prio.
This is what i hate with historical autists. It is a fucking tv-show. Calm down. It's accurate enough.
>>721852
I was bothered by rollo and Lagertha killing their people. It can't work. What value is Rollo without his men? And norsemen chose their leaders with elections so killing free people makes little sense.
>>724369
not grimdark enough
>they raid some chickenshit village
>suddenly a fuckload of soldiers appear
>BDSM leather outfits
lmao
>>724390
Yeah but at least they did attack Paris so that is enough to be loosely based on history
why so many fucking retards think viking raids involved some heroic battles with soldiers like in this show? What part of fucking ''raid'' don't they understand?
>>724369
how do you know that is right? that illustration looks like it is from the 1930s
>>724760
most vikings couldn't even afford armor
>I killed a farmer I'm le berserkir xDD
>meanwhile every other army in the world were killing peasants in their spare time between killing actual, armed opponents
>vikings are so shit their biggest achievement is what other warriors used as entertainment
>>725236
Rollo's men are now the Franks. He killed the vikings Ragnar was going to use to raid Paris again so he thinks he is safe.
>>724369
turn the clothes brown and lose the cape and that is basically what they look like in the show
>>725414
I watched most of the first season and they raid a monastery which turns out as violent and one sided as you'd imagine, the show did a decent job of not making their fights seem like MY BERSERKER RAGE SHALL SMITE ALLLLLL
>>724822
It's not a legend, it's history, all Ragnar's sons are real and verified. Well Ragnar is half a legend.
>>721852
Vikings is ahistorical garbage that is loosely, loosely based on someone that may have no even existed.
>everyone wears dark clothes
>leather
>vambraces
>torches
>VIKING RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>ragnar would've never even left to raid because he had a stable life and was upper middle class pretty much according to the show
>the KINGDOM OF KATTEGAT
The show is terrible. Only good part is some of the acting, but a lot of it is rubbish. What's her face is pretty hot, but if I want a hot chick I'll just browse for some porn.
The "pretending to be dying and convert to Christianity to get inside the walls" is what Ragnar's son did as some Italian city they thought was Rome.
There is some real history there but it is condensed and distorted.
>>724788
>Rome was mostly right
This is the average intelligence on this board. No wonder most of you like garbage shows.
>>725471
Yeah and make the clothes look like the village people biker outfit and their hairstyles and tattoos like some metrosexual hipster faggot and you get the look they have in the show.
A bunch of fat larpers do a better job at looking authentic than the show.
>>721852
ok so i dont get one thing tho
so vikings in 'the vikings' are super ultra freaking mega warrior dancing killing machines or wathever
they fight like crazy and seem to have all the skill and training and so on
ok, fine, the show is a viking wank, so what, its a fun show
but wait, whats the explanation for all the other guys fighting like drunk stroke victims?
its not like early midieval europe had any inherent lack of badass, and it only grew up north because of the climate
i mean compared to how viking fighting is coreographed the other guys seem deliberately incapable
i mean were talking constantly warring aglo vs saxon vs welsh kingdoms, early mideval france, whoever, the directors and screenplay writers are obviously just trying to get away with the old -to make the hero look good, make the opponet incompetent, but they do it so bad its like watching a 80is action movie
>>728633
What is with the no helmet policy on that show?
>>728716
>but they do it so bad its like watching a 80is action movie
lol agreed. It's like a bruce lee or stephen seagull movie. They've made the vikings and army of bruce lees.
>>728728
We only have one maybe two extant Scandinavian helmets from the viking age proper.
But the real reason is probably that they think helmets look lame.
>>728728
think about it, how many helmets do you see in a average WoW raid?
>>728728
It's pretty old trope, waaaaaay older than film. In any visual medium, you need your main characters to be instantly recognizable and visually express emotion. A helmet limits that, and therefore needs to be done away with for they overall sake of the scene.
>>721872
That was actually based on a real event where his son Bjorn pulled that shit in Italy.
>>726159
>>the KINGDOM OF KATTEGAT
Seriously, what the fuck is up with that? Is that supposed to be the show's fictional NOT DENMARK? Also why is the king in the show such a useless tittle? It looks like ragnar is only the leader of his village.
>>728877
>Also why is the king in the show such a useless tittle? It looks like ragnar is only the leader of his village
That's actually not that far off from history. The kings of Scandinavia were selected by assembly and usually had a limited authority.
>>721852
>Why Game of Thrones reads like a History Book and not a Fantasy Epic
>History buff
lol, right
>>728757
Most people in my guild show their helms on while raiding.
>>725421
Because we've had about 150 years of archaeological digs recovering surviving examples of early medieval clothing and military equipment, with historians going through surviving documents and records to match it all in?
>posts on /his/
>doesn't know what Osprey Publishing is
>>728877
>implying Denmark was always called Denmark
Next you'll bitch about "the Kingdom of Wessex" never existing.
>>721852
>That fucking Dudebro Undercut hairstyle
>>729089
It was called denmark in viking times, I'm pretty sure there was no such thing as a "kattegat kingdom".
Why would they call it that in the show? Wasn't the guy ragnar succeeded called the king of denmark in the show?
