How is Hedonism not the perfect ideology?
Degeneracy.
>>69012
Explain
> not even history
>>69047
>philosophy
its inherently bad for literally everyone around you. You are the cancer of the world
Literally animal tier
If you literally just do what feels good in the moment, your friends will probably abandon you, and then you will be lonely.
>>69321
SPD snowflake here.
When you're on that frequency, no matter how many people you associate with, it's impossible to connect with anyone on a genuine level.
Being alone isn't necessarily being lonely, but it does make acquiring gainful employment difficult.
Once I figure out a way to make sufficient money to sustain it, I'm dropping out of society altogether. You guys are lunatics.
>>69321
> scared to be lonely
thats what forced socialization doing with your brain
It's not how we evolved to be like
The alphas of a tribe can kinda do whatever cus their word is law at the end of the day but if everyone just did whatever they wanted whenever, nothing would get done. People would be vulnerable alone.
>>69567
it's not a coincidence that the best memories of my life all have my friends in them
socialization is part of human nature
>the box is upside down
HOW MISCHIEF
>>68987
It doesn't account for all the esoteric and hidden existential threats in the world so it's destined to die out.
>>68987
Are you happy with today?
>>69615
>If you guys were truly above socialization you wouldn't be on 4chan.
I'm on 4chan because I can get away with being a condescending asshole.
>>68987
Nothing humans lay their hands on is perfect. Hedonism isn't bad, but it's a pretty lazy ideology that can be a bit more base and primal than others.
How do you feel good by doing nothing? I have superiority complex and I simply cannot go on not thinking that Im better than someone else at something
>>69681
This nigga gets it
>>69681
Well, it's hard to be condescending when you don't have any accomplishments due to being a shortsighted hedonist, which I guess is one of the main arguments against hedonism.
>>69835
>you don't have any accomplishments
If only you knew.
>>68987
Most people quickly get sick of base level hedonism and start following more advanced forms of it. See: all of the other ideologies
>>69926
>See: all of the other ideologies
>Humans exist only for pleasure! Muh dopamine!
Can this meme please die already?
>>68987
Pretty much everything you enjoy as an hedonist would not exist if everyone was an hedonist like you.
So it's not the perfect ideology, as it cannot be universal and actually needs other ideologies existing to sustain itself.
>>69971
Yeah seriously, dopamine is OK but only serotonin will bring you true lasting happiness.
>>69971
Not just for dopamine, serotonin too.
>>68987
because this guy
>>70000
Dopamine is fun kind of happiness. Serotonin is comfy one. Serotonin is worse because you just lay here and do nothing. At least with dopamine you do shit for lulz.
>>70146
You are just suffering from an overactive amygdala.
>>70146
somebody said it, and I can't disagree in the slightest
>>70146
Based on chemicals doesn't means it can be reduced to them.
>>70146
Emotions are just the byproduct of chemicals in the brain. That's biology 101.
>>68987
Because it's not Batmanism.
>>69567
No anon, thats what being a normy is like.
>>70000
Only quads bring me joy.
>>68987
Existentialism is.
>>69047
>History & Humanities
>>68987
Because it doesn't make you happy and it's very costly at the same time. Kind of like spending your entire capital on something completely meaningless. There.
>>68987
Hedonism is a spook desu.
with Prudence.
Epicurus got it
>>69992
This. The only truly ideal philosophy is one that all could follow and life wouldn't turn to complete shit.
I feel like ethical egoism is the only logical choice for humans to do anything. I cant' decide what makes you happy, nor can you decide for me, so let us decide for ourselves.
The perfect ideology is not having an ideology and being able to adapt and change your beliefs and morals to better fit the situation.
>>69321
>implying I have friends
hedonic treadmill
/thread
>>68987
From a theoretical point of view, it is. From a practical viewpoint, it rarely is sustainable. Most people enjoy a pseudo-hedonistic lifestyle anyway.
It produce 0 beneficial progress to the advancement of society.
>>70008
it is a great way to get into hell with minimum effort.
>>68987
If you are still ruled by your hedonic desires, you are not truly free.
>>68987
It's unsustainable and will never result in lasting peace, love and happiness.
It's the fossil fuel of philosophies.
It's trying to put the ocean in a sieve.
It's fucking shit m8.
>>70232
no, it isn't
>>68987
It is, but only if you go for the sensible kind.
gb2 >>>/lit/
>>76603
>Welcome to /his/ - History & Humanities
>This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc.
>such as philosophy
>philosophy
ITT: Literally
hedonism is either bad or useless
>>68987
> Short term gain for shitting on everything that comes later.
I thought it was obvious, it shouldn't even be classified as an ideology, it should be a factor in the internal-external scale.
>>78631
I fully agree ṫbh, but the rules are the rules.
I hope /lit/ will be made Literature & Philosophy
>>70146
The complexity of the human brain only serves the goal of acquiring most dopamine during one's lifespan.
I've found that pursuit of pleasure is not the most effective way to maximize happiness. Who do you think has a more fulfilling life: the writer who dedicates himself to his craft or the heroin addict?
>>79084
>I hope /lit/ will be made Literature & Philosophy
I second this opinion. /his/ is degenerating discussion that should be on /lit/.
>>68987
i like drinking, drugs, and sex as much as the next guy but you shouldn't let it consume your life.
>>79513
hedonism isn't limited to cartoonish liberalism. literally anything done because it's enjoyable is hedonism.
