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What would have happened to the Allied leaders and generals and key people if Germany had won WWII? Would there have been a "Nuremberg" style of trial or something like that? What crimes would they have been charged with?
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>if Germany had won WW2

Literally the only way this could have happened is if they magically got access to nuclear weapons technology by 1942. Implausible scenarios are dumb. Its very difficult to even imagine what an Axis victory would look like.
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>>680357
But what do you think could have happened to the allied leaders and generals and key people if Germany had won WWII?
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>>680366
I could see the german high command wanting to keep the western leaders as puppets while hitler would want retribution, it would probably cause an internal power struggle and likely lead to a cold war style scenario happening after hitler's eventual death.
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A treaty would be made with the UK and the USA. France would end up divided in a similar manner that Germany was divided.
Russia would be a nuclear wasteland.
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>>680380
I'm sure Churchill and Truman would have taken their own life before agreeing to be puppets.
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The only way for Germany to have won would have been to buddy up with the west against the Soviet union, then we likely would have seen a Nuremberg for Russia followed shortly by the collapse of the unsustainable "thousand year reich".
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>>680394
Damn
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The Man in the High Castle
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>>680387
>Russia would be a nuclear wasteland.
What?
Russia would be full of Germans with slaves.
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>>680394
>The only way for Germany to have won would have been to buddy up with the west against the Soviet union. Implausible scenarios are dumb. Its very difficult to even imagine what an Axis victory would look like.

>>680357
>Literally the only way this could have happened is if they magically got access to nuclear weapons technology by 1942.

Let's try to keep this thread on topic, guys. If Germany winning the war is a GIVEN, then you do not need to discuss how Germany won the war unless it is relevant to your answer.
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>>680448
How Germany wins the war in this situation is important though, because it would mean very different scenarios of who might be in this alternative version of Nuremberg
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>>680357
There were plenty of retarded decisions Hitler made that if were approached differently, would have given the Nazis a proper chance at winning the war. Fuck off with this 'IMMORTAL RUSSIANS" meme.
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>>680805
This, if he didn't go full retard a Dunkirk and hold back his panzer units for "muh Luftwaffe" there wouldn't have been a second front to worry about; don't get distracted by the Yugoslavs and start Barbarossa on time, don't delay at Moscow to wait for Leningrad to fall because "muh symbolic victory" and he could have had a shot.
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>>680815
>This, if he didn't go full retard a Dunkirk and hold back his panzer units for "muh Luftwaffe"
Dunkirk halt order was the German high command's idea and had been prepared over a week before the execution. It was a planned pause to allow the Panzer corps to regroup and resupply.

>don't get distracted by the Yugoslavs and start Barbarossa on time
Barbarossa started in June, pretty much as early as it could begin.
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>>680815
>don't delay at Moscow to wait for Leningrad to fall because "muh symbolic victory" and he could have had a shot.
There was no delay for "muh symbolic victory."
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the rape of all German women and girls, most likely

oh and bad haircuts
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>>680348
Maybe for the Soviet leaders
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>>680416
No, it's a ridiculous scenario
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Depends when?

How did they treat the leaders of the countries they conquered?

Maybe there wouldn't be Victors' Justice?

>>680357
>>680394
This is irrelevant to what he asked.
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>>680348
For the Soviet Union yes, remember the commissar directive

For the west not so much (taking in count that they win in a realistic way, no some magical way after Dresden or suffering war crimes)
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>>681202
No its not. With clever leadership and a better portion of luck and better decision making at least a partial victory was possible. Lets say they beat the SU and (okay this is meme magic already i admit that) pull of to capture the british isles. There are two equally likely scenarios:

1. Show trials soviet style lead by Freisler. They would use it as propaganda material and you can bet your ass that nuremburg would have been the more fair trial than what the nazis would do.

2. They simply vanish to concentration camps. Happened to the leader of austria and other people. Maybe they don´t feel the need for propaganda condemning an already beaten enemy or don´t see the need to publicly put them on trial, naziism after all wasn´t as populist as the soviet system because there was a stronger ( blind) trust into superiors.
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>>680348
>Would there have been a "Nuremberg" style of trial or something like that?
Yes.

>What crimes would they have been charged with?
Crimes against humanity, concentration camps, bombings against civilians, etc.
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>>680448

>If Germany winning the war is a GIVEN, then you do not need to discuss how Germany won the war unless it is relevant to your answer.

Wrong, because not all victories are equal.

Say the Germans defeat the USSR, occupying most of it, and then come to a negotiated peace with the Western Allies after being nuked a couple of times but still holding that Fortress Atlantic together.

That's a win for Germany, right? Fulfillment of all major policy goals, access to the big steppe? How they'll treat the Soviet leaders is going to be way different from how they'll treat British and American leaders.

How they win is part and parcel of how they'll treat allied leaders.
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>>680348

Well they would probably have sham trials and execute all of the occupied countries leadership, intellegensia, political opposition and racial undesireables like they did with all of the other countries they conquered.
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>>681474
The Man in the High Castle is more than just a partial victory.

It's total off the wall batshit.

Read "Fatherland" for a more realistic take on it (even if it is a bit too much of a Soviet Union metaphor)
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>>680348
All non-blonde non-blue-eyed key people would be executed.
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>>681474
The OP wanted to know how a post-Axis-victory world would look like, not how they could have won and in those terms The Man in the High Castle is simply ridiculous, like
>cool nazi science and le german engineering drains the mediterranean
>and they colonize the moon in the 60s
>oh and they kill all slavs and blacks
>also they just draw a huge line across south america
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