Cruel leaders and their/families crimes/actions
No hitler or Stalin they are well known post something different
Pic related he and his son
>>546130
>Pic related he and his son
Why not both his sons?
Most people do not appreciate the kind of shit that Muslim dictators have to deal with.They're all sitting on a local version of ISIS.
Most underrated monster ever.
>>546507
Accidentally offing millions of your population with retarded Economic Policies =/= Meticulously eliminating whole races & unwanted groups wholesale in death camps. Sorry /pol/.
>>546516
>Accidentally
>>546516
what /pol/ has to do with this are you retarded?
>>546519
Yes, accidentally, because the aim of the Great Leap Forward was:
>Guys, If we do this shit, we'll be industrialized quick enough!
Not
>Gentlemen, If we do this, we will destroy our agricultural sector and cause millions to die. Twiddle Moustache.
Besides, the view that it was intentional doesn't make sense as people regardless of their political leanings died by the millions.
If there's anything resembling Hitlerian about Mao, that would be the reeducation camps and the imprisonment of the so-called "dissidents". Except only a few thousand were executed for """treason""" and the rest were just there as exiles. Only to come back with a vengeance and end up running China Post-Mao.
>>546529
Because generally, when people point out how Stalin and Mao were bigger monsters, its usually to offset Hitler's actions. Which is pretty /pol/.
Just keeping you guys honest, that's all.
>>546538
>Prohibit private farm ownership upon which significant number of Chinese agriculturists depended upon
>Forcefully direct millions of peasants to iron and steel production workforce
>Blatant ignorance policies regarding the plow change and the sparrow genocide leading to further agricultural damage
Gee, It sure seems so accidental, amirite senpai
>>546578
Again, all that was for the direction towards a perceived plan industrialization. Not mass murder.
There's a difference between deaths caused by a fuckup of economic plans, and deaths caused by the actual murder of people.
>>546592
Actually, there isn't any difference. You are under genuine delusion if you do not realize that the Chinese government at the time, wasn't fully aware of the price the nation will pay in human lives for the sake of rapid industrialization.
Meticulously eliminating whole races and unwanted groups in death camps is also a perceived plan by the governing forces for the well being of a nation, so your former arguments have zero relevancy whatsoever.
>>546603
>There isn't any difference.
There is. You see
>Perceived plans for the well being of a nation by government forces by implementing *economic policies* -no matter how retarded those policies were
Is vastly different
>Percieved plans for the well being of a nation by MURDERING unwanted groups and races.
They both had the same aims: well being of their nation, but the former did so with an economic plan, the latter did so via outright extermination of undesirables.
The former killed people by accident, the latter by will & intent.
Hitler will always be worse.
>>546627
>but the former did so with an economic plan
With a forced and imposed economic plan whose expected casualties in ranges of millions were estimated and known even prior to it's realization.
>the latter did so via outright extermination of undesirables.
That is actually more worthy of respect. This way, one at least grants people the realistic depiction of situation how it is, not the "lol, let's -knowingly- kill some 30-40 millions for imagined better tomorrow, and call it an economic plan!" meme.
But this discussion will not get anywhere, because you'd rather cling to your ignorance and belief that the literal sacrifice offered for the sake of industrialization, was but an accident/byproduct whose scales those in gov couldn't predict.
>>546603
The damage caused by the implementation of the "five pests" plan was definitely accidental.
It is reasonable to say that they did expect some deaths caused by the forced industrialization, though. After all, it WAS forced, so resistance was to be expected.
>>546668
>Insisting that the GLF was intentionally out to kill people yet again.
>Murder is worthy of respect.
Yes, I am the one leading this discussion nowhere. Thank you.
>>546705
Forced economic plans that had a sideffect of you starving < Forced from your home into a train and into murder camps.
OP here
I would apperciate if you wpuld contribute to the thread ypu fucking faggots and not talk about irrelevant bs
>>546718
The red one is pretty, desu.
>>546130
Saddam literally did nothing wrong.
>>546547
This is the most garbage thing I have ever read on this board. Full of paranoia and self righteousness. Please, kill yourself.
Nobody even brought up nazi Germany and hitler.
Discussing Mao Ze Dong and Stalin does not minimize the reign of Adolf Hitler.
You're effectively trying to minimize Stalin and Mao and how their reign was much worse comparatively speaking.
>>546520
Libya is such a better place with an ongoing low intensity three way civil war.
>>546718
He's not saying murder is worthy of respect fuckwit. He's saying it's more respectable to openly murder than it is to guise it as an economic opportunity.
>>550660
Preventing civil wars doesn't get you off the hook for a lifetime of war crimes. Christ, this place is borderline retarded sometimes.
>>550660
There was no guise, you fucking retard. China was in desperate need of industrialization at the time. Even if the deaths could be expected that doesn't mean the true purpose of the Great Leap Forward.
>>550787
*true purpose of the Great Leap Forward was to kill millions
>>550669
>off the hook for a lifetime of war crimes
His record is cleaner than most post WW2 american presidents, yet no one funds islamic extremism there to topple it.
>>546130
Saddam did nothing wrong you kurd
>>546533
>implying American evil has a face
>>546496
>>546533
not history
>>>/pol/
