A /his/torical leader you hold dear is a woman in an alternative timeline. What happens? How does she fare?
>Gets deposed before adulthood
They disappear from history because men wouldn't have taken them seriously.
Fairly sure that due to gender roles women simply couldn't do what men could do like I thought of Niccolo Machiavelli and ive got nothing. I guess if a woman achieved a diplomatic/military role in Medici Florence she must be doing something right, so maybe she'd be more successful than the real Niccolo?
>>543954
Amaterasu: Kimchi version.
>>543954
It'd probably be unlikely, but I wanna see a cute girl conquer a shit ton of land
Communist fans go from 15 year old high schoolers to 25 year old waifufags.
Ghandi gets raped during a non violent protest.
>>544427
>army of cute girls pillaging and raping
>>544444
Quints win, Ghandlady gets raped!
>>544448
>hundreds of young men forced to service Genghis-chan
>>543954
>lbj
Draws a hardline about soviet psyops, so vietnam either lasts 1 year or 20
>>544444
QUINTS SPEAK TRUTH
>>544456
>Genghis-chan
top jej
>>543954
She wins the war.
>>544427
A female descendant of Ghengis Khan was considered to be one of the finest warriors in the khanate IIRC
Infinite Rape. More rape than has ever, and can ever be conceived.
>Western philosophy never happened
Fuggg :D :D
>>544670
Heraclitus is superior to Plato, though
>>544679
I haven't read much about him, but I like what I have. Why doesn't he get more exposure? I'm a philosophy undergrad and I've only heard him mentioned in passing when discussing Nietzsche
>>544686
Only fragments left of him, but they were enough to make him the greatest influence by far on both Hegel and Nietzsche.
Here is what's left
http://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/Philosophy/heraclitus.pdf
>We should let ourselves be guided by what is common to all. Yet, although the Logos is common to all, most men live as if each of them had a private intelligence of his own.
Logos of course was the basis of Hegel's conception of Geist.
>>543954
Prussians are ethnically cleansed
>>544716
>Maybe of only the Greeks.
No, I'd say of everyone. Neither Schelling nor Fichte made dialectic synonymous with flow like Hegel did, and there can be no doubt that Nietzsche got his "child" stage of spiritual transformation from Heraclitus, as well the eternal return, his attitude toward war, the spiritual desert, his views on free will, even his critique of metaphysics draws heavily from Heraclitus.
>>544697
Cool, I'm taking a class on Hegel specifically this semester; the PDF will help a lot. Thanks Anon
>>544750
Happy to help, bruh. Have fun!
>>544444
According to his prison time, he did. By two big muslim men, thus his apprehension to go agains jinnah and the mussie league.
>>544686
Hegel once wrote that the history of philosophy should start with Heracltius. He was the first to see universal laws, or Logos, shaping every part of the world and to realize that all conclusions about how to live one's life or shape society are derivatives of them.
>>543954
Constantine XI was actually Constantina.
Pretty much the same, except she doesn't disappear into a crowd of soldiers. She probably dies and gets raped by Turks.
That's sad.
>>544793
The quote that I associated with Heraclitus was
>“No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man.”
How does his "life is in constant flux" perspective fit into his belief in universal laws? My (limited) impression of him was one of chaos, not order.
On a side, my professor mentioned that the pre-socratics were poets, and that their outlooks were metaphorical and shouldn't be taken at face value. Is that a valuable piece of information, or did they truly believe in elemental monism?
>>544837
>On a side, my professor mentioned that the pre-socratics were poets, and that their outlooks were metaphorical
Poets in the sense that they spoke figurativily I suppose.l.
>My (limited) impression of him was one of chaos, not order.
Heraclitus would say that things are only chaotic when you are 'asleep' or not aware of the true nature of the world.
>or did they truly believe in elemental monism
This is again reductionism. Heraclitus did not literally beleive the universe was made of fire, that was a metaphor, fire is always changing shape.
I cannot speak for the other one's much. However not every pre-socratic focused on trying to define what the universe was made of.
A note on the pre-socratics. The standard view you will hear, that they were 'scientists' rather than philosophers and believed in literal elemental monoism is inherited from Aristotle, who's ideas as you should know were kind of never really questioned until the Enlightenment.
>>544868
Good to know, thanks
What aspects of Aristotle's philosophy have we shied away from? I know a lot of his science, and Teleology in general, were discarded. Anything else major?
>>543954
In all likelihood, she wouldn't become a leader at all, but be the consort of one at best; or get put in her place as a woman by way of rape at worst.
>>544909
We moved past his metaphysics. In general metaphysics doesn't even have the same as it did in Aristotle. Aristotle could talk of an 'essence' of a thing being independent of it's existence. That would be considered abstract knowledge or a language game today. Nietzsche really had us settle in on metaphysics that only relate to the apparent world, he got this from Heraclitus who insisted the theory of flux is apparent from keen use of the 5 senses.
Spinoza also kind of did this. He got us thinking that everything is connected on some level so you can't really talk about a thing as being independent from it's parts or environment. Aristotle had us thinking about single concepts as existing in vaccuum.
>>543954
That fucking image lel
anyone who marries that will have all my pity and envy
and will probably die in a duel
>>544465
>no dick jokes
>>547559
Women would get votes 100 years early. Based.
How about:
>Jean d'Arc
>>547577
would be a shota
>>547577
probably would be the same unorthodox story since he would still be a peasant
>>547566
>lbj showing off huge cleavage
History just got a lot saucier
>>543954
Source of image?
>>543954
I want to fuck female luther
>Cyrus the Great
So an Aryan Girl is puts the Middle Eastern bullies in their place? Noice
>>544549
>via 9gag com
Please leave no stay just go
Well?
>Martina will never peg you and make you lick her shithole
>>547651
Likely deposed by one of the neguses in a power struggle prior to the Italian invasion.
>>544427
eiyuusenki.jpg
>>543954
>martin luther ever wearing a cross
triggered beyond belief
I'M IDINA AMIN AN I'M A WHOLE LOTTA WOMAN!
BA-LAAAM!
>>543954
women being hedonistic and men loving to satisfy women, women are too busy spreading their legs to be ''leader''
Roman Republic lives.
I don't know but I'd probably fight even harder for female Napoleon than for actual Napoleon. It would be like the second coming of Joan of Arc and the Virgin Mary.
>>549494
Tyler Perry's Idi: Queen of Scots
Probably mutilates the Bulgars in a different way.
>>547610
>LBJ intimidating people with her huge bust
>>549754
God would I follow a an early modern Joan of Arc.
Vive l'empire de france!
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>>550108
Manlet politicians across America live in terror but also erection of receiving the Johnson Treatment
>>544448
>cute girls
>raping
>female alfred the great
>is just what his daughter aethelfaed was
Well, that was easy
>>543954
I want her to tell me about the Jews and their lies
Kawaii gulags
>Otto von Memesmark
Do you believe that she can unite the German people under one flag?
>>547577
basically Griffith
uh...
Instead of going to India to conquer everything, she'd be sent to marry some merchant.
>>551552
Women had and still have power though marriage. A woman can manipulate her husband though love and sex.
>>543969
Sexy boy Karl.
Although the Swedes did do a rock opera where Karl was played by a girl.
>>543954
>What happens? How does she fare?
It doesn't matter which one it is, the answer will always be "never gets anywhere, world history has that leader subtracted from it". In a case like Newton or Luther that would just slow things down; in other cases it would have appalling consequences. But the woman would never actually achieve anything or become famous.
>>544444
How can it be this hard to spell Gandhi
>>547577
John of Arc, peasant boy with visions, would just go apeshit on the English, actually lead armies, and couldn't be executed as a witch.
If he lived, he'd probably end up scoring a duchy or something, and having to kill Gilles de Rais with his own hands.
>>544441
source?
She doesn't. Women are too inept to achieve anything without men's help.
>>555415
Bring Romans to a whole new level,
female gladiators, tits and ass bouncing.
I will pay to watch.
>>544456
>>549617
>I look like a nu male but I don't do any of those things
I'm just going to keep my ring worm on my face so that I at least look disgusting instead of like a regular cuckold
>>549915
nobody can tell who that is, which is why nobody replied.
>>555468
I guess someone can talk about Elizabeth but why bother? you are too stupid and underage to understand anything being said about history
>>555499
it's Bulgarslayer. Don't think anyone has anything t add to his remark, though.
>>551494
>everything in Caesar's will goes to Marcus Antonius
>the imperium sine fine probably doesn't happen
>Martine Luther
boner why
>>555288
One, Males have been burned as witches
Two, Jeanne D'Arc was not burned as a witch but as an Abjurer
>>555404
My little dictator or some shit
>>543954
>>543954
now I have a boner.
