The facts, though unadvertised for obvious reasons, are accessible. To trace this iniquity it is necessary to go back to 1919 and the murderous communist dictatorship of Bela Kun in Hungary.
The deputy “People’s Commissar for Culture and Education” in that short-lived regime was Georg Lukacs. Under his programme of “cultural terrorism”, Lukacs imposed a system of pornographic sex education on Hungarian school pupils, promoted promiscuity, denounced the family and encouraged children to mock their parents and religion (does any of this ring a bell?). The question he posed was: “Who will save us from Western Civilisation?”
The Kun regime quickly fell, but Lukacs’ claim that cultural subversion was the best means of promoting revolution impressed Lenin. Late in 1922, on Lenin’s instructions, a meeting was called at the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow. Present were: Georg Lukacs; Karl Radek, representing Lenin; Felix Dzherzhinsky, founder and head of the Cheka (later KGB); and Willi Munzenberg, a leader of the Comintern, later murdered by Stalin.
The strategy decided on at that meeting was to subvert intellectuals “and use them to make Western civilisation stink”, in Munzenberg’s words, and to graft Freud’s ideas onto Marxism, exploiting sexual anarchy to destroy that same civilisation. The following year, 1923, an Institute of Marxism was established at Frankfurt which, to camouflage its purpose, soon changed its name to the Institute for Social Research and became commonly known as the Frankfurt School.
The Institute built up a cadre of cultural Marxists, including Max Horkheimer, Erick Fromm and Herbert Marcuse. When the Nazis came to power in 1933 the Frankfurt School migrated to the United States. There its members set about poisoning American culture, based in Columbia University. Theodor Adorno promoted degenerate atonal music to induce mental illness, including necrophilia, on a large scale. He and Horkheimer also penetrated Hollywood, recognising the film industry’s power to influence mass culture. The American schools system was a prime target for successful subversion.
By the post-War era the Cultural Marxist programme had a wide-reaching agenda of destruction. It aimed to destroy the family, denying the specific roles of the father and mother, and advocated the teaching of sex and homosexuality to children; mobilisation of women as revolutionaries against men, through aggressive feminism; large-scale immigration to abolish national identity; dependency on the state and state benefits; control and infantilisation of the media.
The great canon of Western literature was demolished by pygmies in the name of “deconstruction”, exploiting the intellectual snobbery of insecure academics. Universities today are the worst enemies of independent thinking and free speech: in the words of Robert Lind, all American campuses have become “small, ivy-covered North Koreas”.
>>618403
>Under his programme of “cultural terrorism”, Lukacs imposed a system of pornographic sex education on Hungarian school pupils, promoted promiscuity, denounced the family and encouraged children to mock their parents and religion (does any of this ring a bell?
Could you source this?
>>618403
wow, you uncovered the jew conspiracy!!! u did it! here is gold star
The Frankfurt idea of “pansexualism” which underpinned the so-called sexual revolution in the 1960s was championed by Herbert Marcuse, an admirer of the Marquis de Sade’s “polymorphous perversity”. Concepts such as childhood, innocence, virtue were anathema to the Frankfurt School, as was traditional order in society. The Frankfurt School enjoyed two key advantages: since it presented itself as a “critical theory”, advancing a purely negative critique of society and offering no alternatives, it could not be compelled to defend its own theses; and by uncoupling Marxism from the command economy its ideas were able not only to survive the collapse of the Soviet system but to flourish thereafter.
The term “political correctness” – clearly incompatible with a pluralist society – was confected by Anton Semyonovich Makarenko, Lenin’s education guru and favourite wordsmith, who also coined the phrase “dictatorship of the proletariat”. Today its monopolist tyranny is maintained by such devices as the “availability cascade”, meaning the pervasive availability in the media of PC views to the exclusion of contrary opinions (cf. the BBC), the “reputational cascade” pouring disapproval on dissidents (cf. Twitter) and the “chilling effect” freezing out dissent. To mould opinion an ugly Newspeak vocabulary (“homophobia”, “Islamophobia”, etc) has been invented, supported by coercive legislation.
That is how we came to our present predicament. If we are to reverse it, we need to understand its origins. The Frankfurt School itself now belongs to history, but it has spawned a Common Purpose generation of useful idiots perpetuating its evil and destructive power. The challenge now is to destroy the destroyers.
>>618422
>who also coined the phrase “dictatorship of the proletariat”.
Karl Marx coined that phrase.
The cultural and ideological battles raging around us do not exist in a vacuum, nor have they happened by accident. There are those who hate the West and want to destroy it and make it into their own image. Many groups and individuals are actively at work in this assault on the West.
Many movements and groups can be mentioned, but here I wish to focus on just one. It has been hugely influential in undermining the West and bringing about cultural Marxism. Even though Marxism as a political force is greatly diminished, it is still alive and well in its cultural form. I refer to the Frankfurt School.
They devised strategies by which the destruction of the West could quickly and effectively take place: “To further the advance of their ‘quiet’ cultural revolution – but giving us no ideas about their plans for the future – the School recommended (among other things):
“1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion.
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children.
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority.
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking.
7. Emptying of churches.
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime.
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits.
10. Control and dumbing down of media.
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family.”
>>618413
OP never mentioned or even alluded to jews in his post
>>618460
OP just copy pasted shit without sources though
Honestly I hate critical theory as much as the next guy but when the people speaking out against political correctness are also the same people going "poo in loo!" and "we wuz kings!" and acting unapologetically racist it kind of forces me to side against them. I mean if you just straight-up hate non-whites then why should I cooperate with you?
OP didn´t mention Gramsci
>>618403
>Cultural Marxism
Do you really believe in that /pol/ shit?
Conservative noise machine makes the Frankfurt School sound like the secret commie conspiracy club but the truth is they were typical intellectuals who wrote papers on philosophy which are available for anyone to read
Daily reminder that cultural marxism is a /pol/ meme and that no one but demagogues and brain dead idiots give it any consideration. If you are either of those, please kill yourselves.
>MFW SJWs actually claim the Frankfurt School as their philosophical lineage in their own books but lie to your face when you ask them about it.
The book is "Is Everyone Really Equal" By Ozlem Sensoy and Robin DiAngelo.
>>618624
nice scan there senpai
>What is Cultural Marxism?
Foucault's critique of the Institution applied to "Social Institutions." "They" do the same with Marxist ideas.
I'm not entirely convinced this is all some intentional ebil conspiracy though, there aren't enough connections. I do think Cultural Marxism is happening nonetheless though, regardless if it's intentional. I think this is partly because leftist ideals tend to lead to the same conclusions. You can't deny that the proletariat/bourgeois rhetoric is still alive today though, and actually has been for awhile: Now it's minorities/majorities, a few years back it was the "middle class"/1%. It's like whenever one movement fails, the left gets another one going.
It's weird, I was once a super hard liberal and never heard of them. I always dreamed of a perfect socialist society we're everyone gets their due, but I believed that it would be impossible to accomplish (at the time because of DUH EBIL CORPORATIONS AN EBIL REPUBLICANS). But now knowing better now, seeing this transitional attempt to socialism really scares me. Once I would've rooted for all of them, but now knowing what I know -especially about Freedom- I could never accept what they are offering. That's the really scary thing to, Critical theory puts a value of one type of Freedom over the other. To me, freedom is freedom. But to them; Freedom From is better than Freedom To (I literally read this from a Critical Theory document, this is what they believe), which is fucked to me.
>>618544
Whose the bigger evil though? The one whose trying to take your freedom away to impose an eventual tyrannical government, or racists who say rude things? Beating the racists are easy, just hanging with minorities basically blows their rhetoric out of the water.
Typical poltard bollocks, this would be laughed at anywhere other than online
>>618639
>political correctness is lessening freedom
Literally no
At worst it's some sjws saying shit on tumblr
It almost never has any actual power
>>618440
>heavy drinking
>implying people didnt drink like motherfuckers in the old world
>>618635
I don't have a printer mi famila, had to make due.
>>618645
M8 I never even mentioned Political Correctness Freedom From = Revolution
Freedom To = Actual freedom to do something.
Still you'd be wrong.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ontario-christian-minister-forced-to-conduct-same-sex-marriages-or-get-sack
Also look at Lena Dunham, she was a nobody SJW whose now side by side with a potential potus.
>>618642
>>618600
>>618593
>>618574
>25 Replies
>14 Posters
You Newfag(s?) need to git gud. Whining /POOOOL/ like a fucking autist every time you disagree with someone won't get your ideas anywhere. If you actually think your right, say so. Until then you guys are way worse then /pol/, so please lurk moar.
>cultural "marxism"
Favorite conspiracy nutjob meme
>>618689
>I never even mentioned Political Correctness Freedom From = Revolution
Freedom To = Actual freedom to do something.
What
>that asspained marxshit who keeps samefagging like a madman
>>618716
>when the samefag don't even know how to use multiple IP's
Thats all really interesting, but do you have a source?
>>618600
daily reminder that academics hide behind being incredulous to avoid actual skepticism of ideas that don't fit into their world view.
>>618738
I've been browsing /his/ since it started and I haven't noticed 700 threads on this. How about you link some archives of your claims?
>>618747
What is hyperbole, you stupid insect?
>>618749
level of discourse comrade, they'll ban you for insulting posters.
Thank you for admitting you can not dismantle the claims presented.
>mfw the best arguments people have against this theory are "Marxism doesn't focus on superstructure so this isn't Marxism" or "They aren't actually reading Gramsci, Lukacs, etc. so it isn't actually doing anything"
>mfw orthodox Hegelianism is right and Marxism, Orthodox and heterodox, is wrong
>mfw someone tries to deny that Marxism is a major force in academia and that many Marxist theorists use revolutionary rhetoric in their work for the explicit or implicit purpose of getting people to join their cause
>mfw the focus on revolutionary solutions leads people to make bad arguments in history classes
>>618749
>what is hyperbole
I'll take "an excuse to lie and then claim I was just pretending to be retarded" for $500, Alex.
Shit like this is why I can't take the right seriously.
>>618738
But how is anything said inherently /pol/? I hate 4chan's /pol/, I'm not a racist nor anti-semite, I belong there just as much as you are.
What this site needs is a /leftypol/ to contain you faggots desu.
>>618754
>mfw the focus on revolutionary solutions leads people to make bad arguments in history classes
this board in a nutshell
>>618765
>What this site needs is a /leftypol/ to contain you faggots desu.
This, I'm tired of the constant revisionism on this board. You faggots need somewhere to have your Bernie circle-jerks by yourselves.
t. a proud /pol/ack who tries to keep /pol/ in /pol/
>>618751
>>618758
I can't tell if this is meta-irony, or if you two are really this dumb.
>>618765
Why is 'inherently' the go-to modifier for morons trying to sound intelligent? No one said anything about anything inherent. We said get ye gone to your containment board with your unsupportable conspiracy theories.
>>618773
Report, herr ortsgruppenleiter, did we win the battle for /his/ or is this still a lefty shit hole?
>>618775
>unsupportable
Did you even read the first few posts? I can't tell you how many sources, Marxist and otherwise, I've seen backing up those claims.
>>618777
The battle of Stalingrad is ongoing.
Please don't be stupid enough to fall for this >>618440
faggot loser's bullshit. If anything this piece of shit is advocating against liberalism in this post and is trying to subvert with confusion.
>>618544
> the same people going "poo in loo!" and "we wuz kings!" and acting unapologetically racist it kind of forces me to side against them
That's just harmless banter lad
>>618775
You need to check your inherent privilege, shitlord.
>>618788
Pull them up, then. Present them.
>>618795
People who use the term "piece of shit" are almost without exception leftists.
>>618775
why is it that pseudo intellectuals always hide behind incredulity when the half understood ideas they parrot come under fire?
>>618800
That's OP's duty but those people did do the things, those institutions did form in those ways, etc. It isn't really contested, and calling it unsupportable is going a few steps too far when it's supported in this thread.
>>618814
I'm not feigning incredulity; I am openly opposing the thesis that there was an orchestrated (this is the key word) attempt by and between the men and institutions mentioned to collapse 'Western civilization'. I am not a Marxist. I'm not particularly radical. I just hate idiocy, and try to fight it wherever I find it.
>>618837
You know what the USSR's ideology was about, right?
>>618754
The logical solution is to do what Germany does and have a different minimum wage for each industry so that legitimately meme tier jobs like burger flippers don't get the same wage as entry level positions in a law firm, for example.
>>618837
then why make all the posts that insult and do not address your point? It hurts your credibility and the credibility of your opposition. One does not 'fight idiocy' by calling a person an idiot.
>>618837
> I am openly opposing the thesis that there was an orchestrated (this is the key word) attempt by and between the men and institutions mentioned to collapse 'Western civilization'.
then provide facts we can all look into like OP did that support your argument.
>>618846
Yes, and there were some very clear attempts by the KGB to infiltrate the media centers of the U.S., particularly Hollywood, to propagate dissent, among many other ideological campaigns. This is well documented. The Frankfurt School, however, was not on their payroll.
>>618856
>like op did
>>618825
>>618856
Calling something a 'fact' doesn't make it one. I see a lot of inconsequential facts interspersed among a great many fabrications. As I said before, it is incredibly tedious to disentangle the tiny truths from the grander fictions, and one's reward is...incredulity on the part of those to whom you are trying to reveal the truth.
>>618775
>We said get ye gone to your containment board with your unsupportable conspiracy theories.
So you agree that what is being said is inherently /pol/ then?
>>618893
so your argument is
>this is so stupid it is beneath me to actually check and see if it is stupid, so instead I'll complain.
Then why do you keep posting? You like to look at your posts? You like the replies? Extreme narcissism?
You oppose the OP's ideas. Ok. With what do you oppose them with? Feelings?
>>618902
>With what do you oppose them with? Feelings?
That's about as much as the OP provided to be fair.
>>618406
> Theodor Adorno promoted degenerate atonal music to induce mental illness, including necrophilia, on a large scale.
LMAO wtf op is insane
>>618908
Again, that's flat-out false. Are you Jewish?
>>618902
I haven't claimed to have made an argument here. I've already gone through this a million times. I'm tired of it.
What is true in the OP is mundane, and what is false is absurd. For instance see >>618910
Adorno was a trained pianist that had an affinity for the compositions of Schoenberg. He was very enthusiastic about modern music's dionysiac potential, and write on this extensively. Was his end goal the destruction of Western civilization? No--his joy, modern music, is presupposed by it.
>>618930
>Again, that's flat-out false.
It's not. There are zero citations provided.
>>618930
This is why we tell you to get back to /pol/
Nice thread. Seriously, you fags must be blind to think that there's no cultural marxism, if not as an organized group but as a thing in the marxist conscious.
>>618945
>we
>implying it's not a single person saying this shit
>>618965
>if not as an organized group but as a thing in the marxist conscious.
>it doesn't matter if I'm wrong, because I'm right anyway
absolute cancer.
What's funny about the whole cultural Marxist conspiracy is that the Frankfurt school isn't that influential in academia. The go to source for describing sexuality is Foucault, the source for morality is Nietzsche, for modern society Baudrillard.
>>618969
Nothing can be objectively right or wrong
>>618967
>Posters: 30
>>618984
>>618965
Well there is such a thing as Marxist ideas.
At the core of Marxism is the idea that economcis is the ultimate deciding factor in all social things. What OP is describing is contrary to that basic tenant. Saying "homosexuals are oppressed" is not Marxist, explaining how the oppression of homosexuality only exists to serve the current economic model is Marxism. Since Marxism really doesn't see culture as anything more than a super-structure to support economic models trying to change the system by changing the culture doesn't make sense. OP seems to be using the word 'Marxist' when they should be using the word 'proggressivist'
>>618987
And most of those are sending the marxist faggot (you) away.
>>618910
As someone that actually knows the history of atonal music. I can confirm OP is full of bullshit.
Atonal music was made using math formulas, it was highly experimental, and some of it is quite interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn7Ud_8-xk8
As you can see the music was designed to be haunting and terrifying which why it acquired terrible reputation. It was quite controversial in it's time.
>>619000
>Marxist' when they should be using the word proggressivist
not wrong, but the proggressivist has its foundations in frankfurt school
>>619015
Uh no, obviously you are just a lying commie jew.
>>619002
im not a marxist tho
>>618406
>Theodor Adorno promoted degenerate atonal music to induce mental illness, including necrophilia, on a large scale
Wut???
I dislike "social justice" rhetoric as much as any channer, but I still prefer the leftist mentality to that of reactionaries. I just find people who are extremely bothered about homosexuality and personal freedoms, uncomfortable to converse with. It's so irrelevant in the big sphere of things. Violent ideologies like Islam are a real issue and something we need to take a stand against, but when you start screaming about the gays and jews I'm turning away.
>>619050
try taking with sjw about violent islam and post results lad
>>619050
>extremely bothered about homosexuality
Except now that homosexuality is becoming more accepted and mainstream and there's plenty of gay conservatives not buying to the bitch agenda, the SJWs are going after gays as well: https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-gay-men-who-hate-women
Case in point, people like Milo Yannopoulos (a gay conservative) who the SJWs are going apeshit about.
>>619076
Yeah but Milo is celibate. That's not exactly a sign of endorsing homosexual couples.
I just support civil partnerships senpai, I don't care about neo-marxist ideologies about sexuality. I'm not a big fan of promiscuity and I want to get married to my boyfriend, honestly.
>>619050
I feel I'm in the same boat as you. Not a liberal SJW, dislike Islamic encroachment, yet I'm not anti Jew or black. It's extremely uncomfortable to talk to those who condemn "cucks" and jews twice in a sentence.
>>619084
>Yeah but Milo is celibate.
Milo isn't celibate, he's a literal whore who constantly brags about how much black dick he sucks. He's a flaming faggot stereotype to the point of being comical, except for not being a SJW.
>>619015
Shoo, propagandist
>>619026
It might have, I havn't read much of the Frankfurts to confirm it though. All philosophy is derivative of past philosophy. For instance the Frankfurt's were derived from 2 sources: Marx and Freud. Freud was derived from Nietzsche and Marx from Hegel. Nietzsche is derived from Schopenhauer and Hegel from Plato.
So
1. Progressivism is a different thing than Marxism, in fact they hold contradicting world views. Marxism denies culture as being a driving force, it's a receptive force. Proggressivism holds that culture is pretty much the only thing that matters. So the name cultural Marxism makes no sense. The word is essentially an umbrella term for anything conservatives dislike.
2. As I said neither Frankfurt nor proggressivism (which are different, conflicting schools) are the dominate force in academia.
3. I have yet to see anyone explain how this is a 'conspiracy'. Are you telling me that college professors get together in secret meetings and plot? A conspiracy is by definition not public, when you say that a bunch of books available in any bookstore are a 'conspiracy' it's a self-contradiction. Using this logic every philosopher ever was part of a conspiracy because they are trying to influence the world.
>>618544
>the people speaking out against political correctness are also the same people going "poo in loo!" and "we wuz kings!"
There is your false assumption.
>>619095
>tfw literally a tranny and sjw's managed to earn my hate by advocating so hard for the immigration of koran-thumping rapists who'll literally stone me on the streets
i just want to be a weirdo in peace, european values let me be this, islamic values don't
>>619123
I don't understand how they manage to hold deep hatred for Christianity but make every possible excuse for Islam? How do you deal with that cognitive dissonance?
>>619139
Islam also opposes western values, so they are seen as a form Lenin's "useful idiots"
>>619139
Nietzsche's concept of slave morality explains away all the seemingly contradictive things of the SJW. The slave inverts the values of his 'oppressive master'. Since powerful white men do not favor Islam or homosexuality both of them are now 'good'.
SJW is this just generation's version of Christianity, in the sense that it is a slave morality born out of an inversion of the values of a great civilization. Europe and America is the equivalent of Rome. The blacks being arrested, the whorish women, and the trannies are the new martyr. All of this happened 2,000 years ago, that's when the first victim worship began. We are still suffering from the philosophy of the cross.
I would like to know your opinion on this, /his/: ITT, and in many others, I've seen the "left" accused of whining, of wanting a bigger, more controlling government, of making every possible excuse for Islam while amply shitting on Christianity/The West. You add what you I forgot.
My personal experience, as a "left-leaning", twenty something Italian who's spent a lot of his adult life among people with "leftist" ideals, in the places they meet, listening to their propaganda has been a bit different.
I've seen people who denounce corruption and then take action by occupying condemned/unused/soon to be sold public buildings (eg, a few buildings in my uni) and turning them into public places where anyone can go and spend time, where anyone can organize courses and teach what they know, where people gather to barter vegetables they themselves grew. This is all self-funded.
I've seen people take up arms and go fight ISIS, mostly in the Kobane area. Most returned, a few haven't come back.
I could go on, but I won't. My question is, am I living in a happy, merry oasis or is the American "left" just that different from my own experience, and if isn't that more indicative of a larger problem in North American culture/whatever than it is of orchestrated communist foul play?
>>619208
>am I living in a happy, merry oasis or is the American "left" just that different from my own experience, and if isn't that more indicative of a larger problem in North American culture/whatever than it is of orchestrated communist foul play?
No, it's just that your having a political life outside of 4chan and don't associate the whole "left" to some random crazies slacktivists bloging their though about things they have no experience about and is largely ignored execpt by people trying their hardest to be upset and victims.
>>618747
Not him but I actually translated a whole fucking chapter from a french book on what the Frankfurt school is about in one of those threads. Unfortunately it got pruned before I could copy it to a notepad and screenshot it. Ill translate it again and save it for future reposts at some point but I happen to be busy right now.
Basically the tl;dr of the FS is "Reason can be used to justify the biggest atrocities therefor its shit. Also no poetry is possible after Auschwitz happened."
t. Adorno
>>618561
This. Gramsci is probably one of the most relevant characters in modern marxism and people barely mention him.
>>619208
The difference is that you base your views and conclusions on what you've personally experienced, not on what you've told about by some person on Youtube.
>>618407
It's fucking bullshit
t. old Hungarian
>>619241
That fucking pic
>>619296
It's getting cold, isn't it?
>>619241
Right, that's why the only people that have mentioned him in the past 40 years are right wingers who probably haven't even read him. Classic retards.
Why do you right wing normies concern yourself with something you don't understand? If in fact a USSR 2.0 comes into existence, you're all going to get exterminated like the vermin you are, and there's nothing you could do about it.
>Hey guys I'm a women with a penis
>'no'
Why do people get so mad about this?
>>619241
He's actually extremely irrelevant though.
>>618754
>tfw it's time to race China to the bottom
>>619355
Because you're trying to create a connetion between the person and reality, and this obviously tears apart their egos.
>>619361
That's what they want you to think.
>>619328
>comes
>>619112
Maybe it's not a one-to-one correlation but the Venn Diagrams probably match up a lot, at least on this site..
>>619328
It's not about being a mindless militant, stupid leftist scum, it's about protecting your soul. When you see evil and you do nothing, you're already supporting it.
>>619391
>good/evil
>right/wrong
>black/white
Mind of a child
>>619400
Mind of someone who actually cares about the reality of my character more than my stupid low volitions.
Pretending you're enlightened, mature and more responsible than you actually are is basically what 13 y.o. kids do.
>>619109
>Progressivism is a different thing than Marxism, in fact they hold contradicting world views. Marxism denies culture as being a driving force, it's a receptive force. Proggressivism holds that culture is pretty much the only thing that matters. So the name cultural Marxism makes no sense. The word is essentially an umbrella term for anything conservatives dislike.
No marxism was always about the poor underprivileged working class fighting the upper class. Only because the society changed since 1800s does not mean that they are that conflicting schools
>As I said neither Frankfurt nor proggressivism (which are different, conflicting schools) are the dominate force in academia
This is plainly wrong. Liberal thinking, modern art, other thrash dominate the academia. The only reason why you not notice that is because you already live in society that was this way for a certain time
>I have yet to see anyone explain how this is a 'conspiracy'. Are you telling me that college professors get together in secret meetings and plot? A conspiracy is by definition not public, when you say that a bunch of books available in any bookstore are a 'conspiracy' it's a self-contradiction. Using this logic every philosopher ever was part of a conspiracy because they are trying to influence the world.
when people teach that race or gender does not exists and are social constructs you are already living in cultural marxist society
>>619391
I don't see you opposing capitalism, which is the biggest evil that has existed on this planet. But by all means, keep fighting those "ebil leftists".
>>619391
I'm stoned so make of this what you will, but I feel much the same way, almost to the word - and I'm what you'd probably call a leftist.
>>619400
>I'm beyond good and evil
>>619431
Capitalism is only an economic structure, good and evil are not in the weapon but in the shooter.
>>619438
I was referring to the soul saving, acting against evil comment btw, and just those words.
>>619438
I really doubt leftists believe in objective evil. Basically, you think evil is whatever goes against your volitions, isn't it?
>>619423
'No.'
>>619467
ok
>>619423
Your basicing proving my point. For you 'cultural marxism' is a buzzword to describe things you do not like.
It doesn't matter if Marxism and Proggressvism both have opposite views on how the world is shaped (cultural vs economic forces). Both of them distrust the elites of society which you find to be bad, therefor both of them are the same thing to you.
You also than added in race denial which is another thing unrelated to Marx but again it's something you personally dislike so it must all be just the same liberal crap eh?
I can actually sympathize with your political stance but you are not making the situation better. You're basically protecting your opponent's from receiving any serious criticize. Relaying on buzzwords and trying to say that several conflicting philosophical stances are all the same shit is a sure way to make it so whatever you attack is going to look professional while you will look like a moron. This isn't /pol/ you need to actually have a basic understanding of philosophy and realize that tumblr talk about gender is different from academic talk.
>>619328
>right-wing normies
>exterminated
Nope, if we get a USSR 2.0 then the first to go will be the parasitic intelligentsia who helped bring about it's existence. What government wants a section of society constantly criticising it and pushing for reforms?
Liberalism and degeneracy are helpful in bringing a nation down, demoralising and dividing it and bringing it to crisis point. But once that crisis has been exploited and the new totalitarian state has been imposed, the new leaders want to rule over a stable society, and that means a return to traditional family values and a single state-supported religion. Look at Russia now, zero tolerance for any kind of degeneracy or civil disobedience. Same with China and North Korea. Totalitarian states don't want liberals, with their inconvenient freedoms and demands. They want churches and blue-collar workers.
If the USA went full commie, the Marxist SJWs would soon find themselves being executed by commissar Billy Bob.
>>618406
>Theodor Adorno promoted degenerate atonal music to induce mental illness, including necrophilia, on a large scale.
SCHONBERG, NOW WITH 100% MORE NECROPHILIA
I believe in cultural marxism but I think it's an accidental byproduct of social justice; no, I don't believe 'da jooz' are doing it
>>619486
marxism=/=cultural marxism
funny how you talk about understanding philosophy, but can't understand that people are talking about two different things
>>619529
>I don't believe 'da jooz' are doing it
like with communism a lot of them actually are, but who knows if maliciously or from stupidity
>>619552
I know that but I don't think it's some widespread plot that all the Jews are 'in on'
>>619534
Keep circularly defining those terms, m8.
>>619574
keep coming into threads and commenting without knowing what they are about
>>619534
Than don't use the word marxism dumb ass. Your talking about proggessivism use that word.
This what I tried to tell you through 2 posts and you still don't get it. If you talk like a retard expect people to treat you like one. You've basically admitted that you know Marxism has nothing to do with what you hate but you still want to call it Marxism in way because it's just a word that you dislike. It's the same way SJW want to call everyone a facist, not because they actually think their opponent's have anything to do with fascism but it makes them feel bad than calling them a conservative.
Although if you just call proggessivism progressivism than you can't say that it's a Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race...you'd just be talking about a political ideaology. Why bother discussing actual politics with clear terms when you can rally a bunch of teenagers online against Emmanuel Goldstein and the conspiracy he is spreading everywhere.
Also if you didn't have a buzz word you couldn't just throw whatever thing you dislike in with the label. Using loosely defined terms to antagonize people you dislike is ironically a Jewish tactic....
>>619423
"No"
Today the academia follows Foucault and Chomsky, the Frankfurt School is nothing but a footnote of history.
>>618863
You aren't blind anon? Go on, disprove the cultural marxist conspiracy or fuck off.
>>618403
Hey fuckhead. If you were something other than a useless stormfag who just repeats what he hears on /pol/, you'd know that this is the guy you were after.
The Frankfurt school is footnote. They had some ideas and then were subsumed. This guys is patient zero for all of the insane bullshit of our age and if you were to do any actual research, you'd fucking know that.
Stupid. Fuck. Heads.
>>619461
Yeah - but the feeling's the same, basically. Furthermore, I'll just go ahead and contradict Nietzsche, but I believe you can will the same thing for however much you want, so our volition can have the same adversaries for years I don't know if I'm getting through
>>619578
Went right over your head, dinnit?
>>619941
This is the fact: there is not, nor ever was a conspiracy perpetrated by the members of the so-called Frankfurt School.
Given the status of the 'facts' in the OP, I just trounced the whole thing.
>>619941
You can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim i.e.: you.
>>618695
Cultural Marxism is prevalent in society today.
'Cultural Marxism/Frankfurt School' is just the right-wing version of 'Neoliberalism/Chicago School'. A thing that is never actually articulated yet is somehow the cause for all the problems in the world.
>>620317
People have stopped believing the straight up "Jews did it" excuse so that needed some cover
>>620321
It literally is that dumb.
It's amazing how many people will STILL bitch about monetarism without having any knowledge of monetary policy IS, let alone debating the effects of it.
I'm guessing the same thing can be said of 'cultural marxism'. The sad thing is, I actually want to know more about the ideas behind 'progressivism' yet whenever I try and look it up, I get no information on what they believe, let alone why they believe it, just ranting about how it's destroying everything. It's insane.
>>618403
Pretty sure critical theory is simply a counterforce to the emergence of the masses and they ability of groups to use modern communications and mass media to cotnrol said masses.
It was and is a force against social rigidification. Its a critique of ideology in the modern world and sprung up from questions like how could a regime like nazism arise out of the extremely progressive and cultured german society.
It meant to shed light on exactly the tools and processes that created Nazism of which people were unaware.
>>620651
You have to realize that persoality cults and tyrannical ideologies were sort of new, well they had a new coating.
Mass movements feuled by news papers and cinema for the masses created something new.
Now we take critiques of ideology as something obvious but its because of people like the ones who were part of the Frankfurt school.
This was before 1984 etc..
They gave voice to the realizations of how media effects us and brainwashed us.
Go watch the movies Lenny filmed for the nazi. Looking at them today we realize how propogandistic they are but people back then simply did not have to tools to look at these things critiquely.
People here screaming Cultural Marxism and Frankfurt school have no clue about philosophy, sociology, communications etc..
>>620723
Well, this is purely from the point of my point of view as a film arts student(still in the middle of it) and my amateur interest in philosophy.
Think of cinema(which included not just short films and full features films but also newsreels and government propoganda films) as the 20th century's version of the printing press.
When cinema emerged at the end of the 19th century it slowly began a destabilziing process along side all sorts of different modern movements and tendencies.
The aristocracy was dying. All the values of that world were vanishing and cinema played a significant part in it all. It braught the nobility and aristocracy to the level of the people and changed art and its role in society.
Walter Benjamin(one of those so called evil frankfurt school devils) talked of nazism aestheticising politics. The Ideal german figure(, all the nazi imagery...
It made use of the new consiousness of the masses to stir and direct them.
Movies were a new way of looking at the world. It was more real then reality yada yada. Peopel gobbled it up. Things that seem absurd to us now were viewed and accepted by the naive eyes of early 20th century viewers.
Critical theory took to analying all these new phenomena, trying to critically examine this new social consiousness feueled by vivid imagery.
Today we know to look at art critically since we understand it as being part of ideology but that was not the case back then.
>>620771
Except even the word ideology was not used and prior to the begining of the 20 century.
There is a reason for it. Words that do not exist reflect on ideas that do not exist in the public mind. If there is no word to express it it doesnt exist.
>>620776
Before movies art was confined to meuseums and the rich. After cinema imagery and art were mass consumed.
Sure there were some comic drawing in newspapers but its very different from seeing actual "reality", actual people doing things.
I dont even know what analogy would be appropriate here.
>>620789
You weren't the first person to tell me the Saphir-Whorf hypothesis, nor the last to claim Marxism gave me the tools to see organized falsehood, Marxist.
>>620776
Maybe a good way to put it would be that cinema created a new shared consiousness. It created new powerful shared memories(everyone seeing the same movie).
>>620813
Not claiming it as some absolute truth. Dont be an idiot. Learnto accpet ideas critically and hold several contradicting ones alongside each other.
>>620841
That is not even a response to what I said. You're spouting inflexible dogma at me, Marxist.
>>620776
Thanks
>>620868
Whatever you say crazy guy.
>>620771
Well the Frankfurt school also critisized Marxism, so by your own value system you should consider them allies.
Frankfurt, Focaulst, the Post-modernists, these are actually the guys that dismantled Marxist claims and exposed them 'totalitarianism'.
The retards that scream 'cultural Marxist' are so out of touch with philosophy that they don't realize who their ally and who their friend is. But hey don't listen to me, don't actually read books, it's all written by lying kikes and those youtube documentaries and /pol/ memes you saw have the real truth. History isn't an evolving process, the same kike-liberals have had the exact same ideology for centuaries and are plotting to destroy the white race and their families because mai shekels. Right?
