ITT: Historical Irony
>Be me
>Be Crusader during 4th Crusade
>"Oh boy, we're killin' us some Saracens today!"
>"Let's sack a Christian city first though..."
>"Fuck it mang, let's betray and conquer a Christian buffer state and fuck up their economy, military and infrastructure instead"
>"What we're we here for again?"
>"Saracens? Literally who?"
>Be France
>Fight Britain to permit bunch of North American taxe evaders to become independent
>Two centuries later, the country they formed becomes a superpower and makes English language replace French as the world's lingua franca
>A bit after that, said superpower uses its huge cultural domination to make the world see France, the country that won their independence war, as a bunch of pussies that never won a war
Always makes me kek, poor frogs...
Newxt time they'll think twice before helping a bunch of traitors
>>611670
Fuck you , Frog is our greatest ally
>>611670
I don't like anglos as much as the same guy, but after Napoleon, the frogs deserved an assraping.
>>611685
*next
Just noticed my mistake...
>>611670
>make the world see France, the country that won their independence war, as a bunch of pussies that never won a war
But only the uneducated think this. There are literally hundreds of towns in America named for Marquis de Lafayette.
![french-20[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KCOnB23.jpg "french-20[1].jpg")
>>611670
I'm an American and I fucking love France, French History, and French culture. Nothing makes me more mad then retard rednecks mocking France.
>>611685
>but after Napoleon, the frogs deserved an assraping.
Go to bed, monarchist.
The big boys are having a discussion.
>>612021
>"""French""" history
>French """"culture""""
what are those ?
>>611645
>be Arab
>conquer massive territory
> "these Jewish subject are alright..I don't get why everyone hates them"
>gives them relatively favorable rights, positions of power, opportunities to become prosperous
>several centuries later your society turns to shit and can't win a single war
>Said Jews come in and claim your land and kick you out
>backed by the same people that oppressed the shit out of them when you took them in
>mfw
>>612115
>french cheese
Yeah that's not what happened. The problem of the Fourth Crusade was the extensive involvement of the Venetians, who were only in it for the money. They didn't give a crap about the Holy Land, they organised the Crusade simply to make money off the Crusaders, who had to pay them for the benefit of being transported. But it was a commercial failure and a lot fewer Crusaders showed up than they thought, so they decided to recoup their losses by raiding their merchant rivals and blackmailed the Crusaders into supporting them. Most French Crusaders refused to participate and either returned home or went on to Syria, but between Montferrat and Hainaut there were still enough to help the Venetians take Constantinople, making Venice the hegemonic commercial power in the Mediterranean.
>>611670
kek, this so much.
What cracks me up the most is that the frogs still love America today, because they suck too hard at English to realize they're nothing but a joke to Americans.
>>612245
I know that it was the spaghettijew's faults. But it's still ironic organizing a crusade, only to attack Christians later on...
>>612041
I abhore monarchies, but what Napoleon did (which I respect tremendously), was a huge abusal of his rights. He just became another king, he wasn't any better.
>>612258
>>612245
>>611645
The Fourth Crusade was literally entirely the Greeks' own fault. Weak, divided government and factions within that government supporting different emperors, fucked up spiritualistic eastern religion with a focus on fanaticism and civil war, etc.
Educate yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r376MkZwLI
>>612321
Not to mention they had been huge dicks to the West from the very beginning.
>>611993
I don't think you understand just how uneducated the majority of the nation is.
Nor how prevelant the idea that French are pussies who surrender at first sight of combat.
>>612321
>victim blaming
>>612115
relics of a bygone era mon ami : (
>>612258
The has been crusades after Christian
For example against russia or catars
>>611670
>Two centuries later, the country they formed becomes a superpower and makes English language replace French as the world's lingua franca
But Britain had already made English the lingua franca by the Victorian era. The USA just ensured that it remained the lingua franca post-WW1.
>>612245
>still believing the 19th century French historiography, which had specific stake in portraying the recently ended Republic of Venice (one of the oldest states in Europe) at French hands as virtuous, of the the Fourth Crusade despite all modern scholarship telling a decidedly different story
Venice gets fucked by Villehardouin's (an experienced and trusted field marshal) misprediction after devoting the entirety of its economic and commercial power to building a fleet for 30,000 crusaders. Venetian power lies entirely in maintaining ease of shipping in the Adriatic, thus they can't leave an openly hostile power alone in the Adriatic while the massive bulk of their military might is going to fight for the holy land. Zara is only protected because the king of Hungary took up the cross (who would go on to never fight against non-Christian powers for the entirety of his reign), all other Crusaders were given right to quell their domains before leaving. Everything after that is Montferrat and Angelus,both legitimate claimants to the throne, pushing toward Constantinople, to perform a standard Byzantine exchange of power (legit claimant coming to the city with a foreign army behind him) that seriously went out of control.
>>612321
Cucktholic revisionism. The West deserves the rape its getting at the hands of refugees.
>>612710
I don't think that holds up when Constantinople made Venice its de facto navy (leaving its own to rot in the Golden Horn), and then fucked them by arresting every Venetian in the empire when the Venetian trade concessions (basically the payment for using the Venetian navy) proved too much. The rulers of Constantinople literally brought it upon themselves.
>>612115
Where are you from ?
>Early medieval Christians decide to baptise the various Slavic/Germanic/whatever tribes
>"They probably won't like it..."
>Get the idea to let them keep old traditions, just under different names
>Old European polytheistic traditions survive to this day
>>613362
>1500 years later
>still using tuesday, wednesday, thursday, and friday
>>613386
not calling days of the week "after-sunday-day", "second day", "middle day", "fourth day", "fifth day", "sabbath day", "no-work-day"
>>613396
And no, my polytheistic ancestors didn't bother to greentext either.
>>612741
That's completely false
Even at the height of the British Empire, French was still the lingua franca.
When Russian and Japanese officials met in 1905, they used French
When German officials adressed the British ones in 1914, they used French ("chiffon de papier")
When US soldiers tried to communicate with Italian civilians in 1944, they used French
English only replaced French as the US became a superpower after WW2, and was then popularized by hollywood, pop music and more recently the internet
>>613396
>mfw my people calling days of the week two, three, four, five, congregation (all in arabic), then sabbath, & Lord's day (in portuguese)
>>611645
The military was already fucked up
>>612321
Excuse me, the venetians did this shit. Romans were as romans does
>>613362
> Be Christian
> Some stubborn Norsemen still won't convert
> Change Christianity so that Genesis happens after Ragnarök
> Norsemen are happy, never bother to tell anyone about this heresy
And that's how Christianity became a pagan religion
>>613477
>Not calling them Hydroday, Heliday, Lithiday, Berylliday, Boroday, Carboday, and Nitroday
>>611670
This wouldn't have happened if the French weren't so fucking proud of themselves for being cultured because they are cultured.
>>613477
Where the hell is one?
>>613396
>After-Sunday-Day
>But no actual Sunday
kek
>>613764
where the fuck do you live. I bet its slavic or moorish
>>613396
>not throwing out all consistency and having "after-sunday-day", "thor's day", "middle day,", "fourth day", "fifth day", "sabbath day", "no-work-day"
>>613396
Irish is
>Moon day
>Mars' day
>First fast day
>Day between two fasts
>Fast day
>Saturn's day
>Lord's day
>>611645
>Be Dutch Republic
>Be located in a resourceless swamp perpetually at risk of being flooded with enormous loss of life
>Get filthy rich with grain trade and manufacture
>Transition towards a more service orientated economy
>Everyone loses their shit and thinks the party is gonna crash
Turns out service orientated industry is kinda like what we have now anyways.
>>613854
lame
>>613862
Well nobody is losing their shit about losing manufacture and Industry these days.
>Claims Italy to be the heir of the Roman Empire
>Sides with the Barbarians
Mussolini, not even once.
>>613778
but the fourth day is "Tor's day"
>>613886
I mean your post is lame and uninteresting, there is nothing ironical about it
>>613829
Ah southern slavs
>>612710
Exactly, it's all you faggots blaming the Latins, when it was thousands of Latin merchants, women, children, and servants who were massacred because the Greeks couldn't pay their denbts.
>>612749
I'm not even Catholic, just a normal person.
>>613546
Venetians did jack shit, they sailed the fleet where the Crusaders (and through them, Angelus) told them to, in order to make a gain on their losses.
>>613778
Exactly like South Slavic days of the week.
>>614148
Enrico dandalo masterminded the whole thing, he never forgave them for blinding him.
>>614148
>The religious differences between the two sides, who viewed each other as schismatics, further exacerbated the problem. The Italians proved uncontrollable by imperial authority: in 1162, for instance, the Pisans together with a few Venetians raided the Genoese quarter in Constantinople, causing much damage.[1] Emperor Manuel subsequently expelled most of the Genoese and Pisans from the city, thus giving the Venetians a free hand for several years.[7]
In early 1171, however, when the Venetians attacked and largely destroyed the Genoese quarter in Constantinople, the Emperor retaliated by ordering the mass arrest of all Venetians throughout the Empire and the confiscation of their property.[1] A subsequent Venetian expedition in the Aegean failed: a direct assault was impossible due to the strength of the Byzantine forces, and the Venetians agreed to negotiations, which the Emperor stalled intentionally. As talks dragged on through the winter, the Venetian fleet waited at Chios, until an outbreak of the plague forced them to withdraw.[8]
The Venetians and the Empire remained at war, with the Venetians prudently avoiding direct confrontation but sponsoring Serb uprisings, besieging Ancona, Byzantium's last stronghold in Italy, and signing a treaty with the Norman Kingdom of Sicily.[9] Relations were only gradually normalized: there is evidence of a treaty in 1179,[10] although a full restoration of relations would only be reached in the mid-1180s.[11] Meanwhile, the Genoese and Pisans profited from the dispute with Venice, and by 1180, it is estimated that up to 60,000 Latins lived in Constantinople.[1]
LATINS WERE GOOD BOYS, THEY DIDNU NUFFIN
>>613829
SLOVENES AND POLAND
THE GREAT WEEKDAY NAMES ALLIANCE
>PONIEDZIAŁEK
>WTOREK
>ŚRODA
>CZWARTEK
>PIĄTEK
>SOBOTA
>NIEDZIELA
>>611645
>be Latin in Constantinople in 1182
>get massacred
>be avenged 22 years later
>everyone forgets about the massacre of the latins and sucks byzantine dick 800 years later
>>613396
Máštěř řáče řépóřtíňg íň.
>>613386
>mfw it's just an interpretatio germanica of the roman system and you blondie fags got cucked
>mfw the chief germanic god is Mercury
>>614173
>a few individuals
I find it hard to believe that a few individuals would make the Byzantine Empire and Venice go to war with each other.
>>614195
>white race rank.jpg
plz no /pol/
>>613806
>shitty Day between two fasts instead of based Iupiter's day
>>614210
>doge of hell
You mean the Right Arm of the Lord, right?
>>614205
/pol/ would never call germanics mid tier or mediterraneans white at all
>>614221
The right arm of one uppity corrupt foul breathed cp loving patriarch.
>>614197
So? I don't see how a typical regional conflict between two nations can justify massacring tens of thousands of civilians
>>613396
>shitty numbers
Moon Day
Mars Day
Mercury Day
Jupiter (Iovis) Day
Venus Day
Sabath
Day of the Lord
>>614233
You fuck with the City, you fuck with the state.
>>614246
>>614246
Yet another proof that the Byzantine Empire was truly and absolutely NOT the Roman Empire. When Clodius and Milo's gangs had regular fights in the city, and Clodius ended up being killed just outside the city, Milo ended up being exiled (though he might have been found not guilty if Pompey hadn't meddled), and all their followers left alone.
The true Romans understood that it's the leaders of the group, and not the members themselves, that create trouble.
>>614226
Don't project, Anon, it's unseemly.
>>614273
Ponedeljek vs. Nedelja
Sreda vs. Nedelja
The inconsistencies bother me.
>>614279
>Yet another proof that the Byzantine Empire was truly and absolutely NOT the Roman Empire.
Oh boy, here we go again.
>>614273
Poniedzałek
Wtorek
Środa
Czterek
Piątek
Sobota
Niedziela
t.american learning polish
> be president of the US, 1807
> (a farm-loving guy)
> frogs and britbongs going at it again
> both capturing our sailors and shit
> chesapeake/leopard hootenanny
> want to get back at the ruffians
> eh, i really don't want a war
> i know, i'll fix this economically!
> Embargo Act of 1807 passed
> we can't trade with frogs/britbongs and vice versa
> depression begins
> people still smuggle shit
> domestic industry grows a little
> hamilton would be jacking off if he were alive
> mfw
>>614279
I love you too
>>614288
What inconsistency?
>be the heir of the prussian throne, a little feminine
>dad is like, soooooooooo rigorous with me
>good thing I got my BFF Hans Hermann by my side all time, we kiss sometimes :3
>we planned to flee this like, suppper boring shithole called Prussia, and go to England, I'm like so anglo.
>dad imprisoned Hans Hermann
>dad dragged Hans Hermann outside, where I could see him from my window
>he executed Hans Hermann, I fainted
>when I woke up I became a man, decided that I would erase the name of my father, out the annals of history, I would be the name historians would associate with Prussia
>I will expand it, and in the end... I will be The Great
>>614340
You forgot that a large part of anti-British sentiment in the colonies was the British monopoly on legal trade, which caused smuggling. And then Jefferson does the same thing.
>>614343
<3
>>614358
It's NedeljA (a at the end), but then PonedeljEk for some reason has an e. Maybe it's some peculiarity of Slovenian?
Then Sreda, with no j, and then again Nedelja, which would be more consistent as Nedela (or Nedelja and Srjeda or Srijeda).
>>614372
hah I get that vibe from reading about frederick too
>just wants to chill
>gets forced to do all this miracle of house hohenzollern military genius shit
>>611645
>saved image
>"""1453"""861794743.jpg
why do you do this
>>614378
I don't know about the rest of the country, but in my dialect the days are
Pundelk
Tork
Sreda
Četrtək
Petək
Zbota
Nedela
The ones I posted in the earlier post are in official (literary) Slovene. The j letters were added in the 20th century because there was a push for a joint South Slavic identity.
>>614292
>Byzantine
>Roman
Only in name, friend.
>>614429
>when you get bantered by numbers
>>614445
>t.Italomongrel
>>614473
t. Grease
>>614730
t. fedora
>>614741
t. cuck
>>611645
Looks like Christopher Lee.
>>614754
That's because he was.
>>611645
>Be me
>Be Fascist, proud of military, Church, King
>See weak little parliamentarians take control
>Revolt to save my great country
>Train the Prince to be my heir, keep Spain great
>As soon as I die he moves towards a constitutional monarchy
>Legalizes the Communist Party
>mfw
>>611670
Forgot one
>decades later, American adventuring in the middle east destabilizes the region, forcing millions of violent refugees into your country
>over a hundred of your countrymen are murdered
>>614754
Came here to write this. Of course Charlemagne was Lee's ancestor. Amazing coincidence. I can't believe Lee didn't personally pose for this painting.
>>613396
t. baltic pro
>>614761
>THURsday is Tyr's day
>TUESday is Thor's day
Tyr=Tyz(gothic?)=Teiwoz(proto-germanic)= Tiw(Anglo-Saxon), or am I being me-me'd on
TUESday= TIWSday
