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Attila the Hun was born in Hungary
Germanic tribes had an empire in north africa
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>>469393
>Germanic tribes had an empire in north africa
yea, a little piece if land that can only fit like 12 people
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>>469393
the vikings were one of the most feared warriors in their time, roman and arab scholars praised their tactics, weaponry, and heart. It took the combined forces of the brits, the french, and the italians to stop them
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If you're under the impression of germanic tribes as "white people" having a,
>empire
in north Africa, you're sorely mistaken.
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>>469414
The viking era ended when Harold got his shit fucked up by a bunch of Anglos at Stamford, not "a combined forces of Brits, French and Italians"
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>>469393
The Pseudo-Isidorian Decretals were forgeries of letters used by the church to claim papal authority over secular rulers and a donation of western europe from Constantine.

Gratian wrote the Decretum, which became the basis for Canon Law (the legal system for running the Roman Catholic Church) based on these forgeries

Thomas Aquinas wrote the Summa Theologica using quotations from church fathers and 1st to third century popes based on letters from the
Pseudo-Isidorian Decretals
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>>469422
You don't remember Adolfi Bakr al-Hamburg?
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>>469422
>He doesn't know about Vandal North Africa
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There was a tribe of Mongols that practiced Christianity.

The native languages of Madagascar and Hawaii are distantly related.

President John Tyler has a living grandson (at least as of a few years ago)
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Sumerians were not Semites
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>>469497
>There was a tribe of Mongols that practiced Christianity.

Speaking of which:

>Islamic Russian Mongols once invaded Christian-sympathetic Mongols to avenge the murdered Caliph.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berke–Hulagu_war

You can honestly fill this entire thread with MongolFacts.
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>>469511
Meant to say "Christian Iran".
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>>469393
>a hun was born in HUNgary
wew
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>>469511
Post more anon
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>>469497
Weren't there quite a few Mongols who converted to Christianity just because there were no restrictions on alcohol or meat?
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>>469497
>>469511
also the the french princess married a mongol right? and they had an alliance too?
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>>469534
those are russian but almost the same
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Dorians still exist.
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>2015 was 20,000 years ago
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>more p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ japs died in the firebombing of Tokyo than both Hiroshima and Nagasaki put together

>more explosives were dropped in the Vietnam war than all of the Second World War

>When the Vandals sacked Rome they didnt pillage/loot any Christian churches, because they themselves were Christians.

>Mozart was black

>initially, in the First World War French cavalry were dressed the exact same as Napoleons cavalry over a century before

>1/500 Ching chongs are DIRECT descendants of Ghengis Khan (who was white)
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>>469577
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>>469577
I am fairly sure you got every one of these facts from Dan Carlin. I listened to Hardcore History and he brings up every single one you just mentioned.
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>>469577
>Mozart was black
>Ghengis Khan (who was white)
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>>469585
>Ghengis Khan (who was white)
oh fuck off you afrocentrist nutjob, quit trying to steal other people's history, ghengis khan WAS white

http://marchofthetitans.com/earlson/genghis.htm
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>>469583
nah i only got Vandals, 1/500 chongs, and mozart was black from Dan the Man
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>>469583
>>469594
although out of interest what are the names of the episodes that Dan did on WW2 and Vietnam?
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>>469519
>Muqali, one of Genghis' most respected generals, all but completely defeated and subdued Jin China without losing a single battle.
>Subutai and Jebe once led two tumens of 20,000 men on a raid around the Caspian see from Iran to the Kievan Rus, and were said to have defeated '13 kingdoms' without support from the wider horde, and sometimes often under extreme odds (The battle of Kalka River, for example, was won against a force of 80,000).
>Subutai himself orchestrated the Mongol invasion of Europe, where he orchestrated a campaign that managed to defeat the armies of Poland and Hungary over the course of two days.

Genghis had a whole bunch of COOL GUYS in his party.

>>469535
I dunno about a French princess, but a few Easter Roman princesses married mongols.
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>>469591
Him having red hair and green eyes is historically debatable, and might not be taken at face value (the guy who said he had red hair was Muslim, who believed the great Satan or something like that would be red-haired).

And even if he was there are central Asians with red hair or green eyes. The whole steppes is a giant genetic melting pot from bring a massive rape train stretching from Korea to Poland.
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>>469597
He did a whole episode on the atomic bomb which digresses into bombings of all kinds and barely touches on the actual atomic bombing. Logical Insanity I think. Maybe the Extras.
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>>469393
Jesus was black
Black people were kings
White people were peasents and worked farms too at one point
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>>469608
Yeah it was Logical Insanity, I remember that episode
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>>469422
The fucking Vandals you moron
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>>469591
>was a man of strongly Nordish racial ancestry
wat
I mean its not that unlikely that he actually had white ancestry considering how mixed the Mongols were and even today there are central Asians with light coloured eyes and hair but this is just as bad as the WEfags .
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>>469608
cheers m8

ive got a fresh historical fact NOT from Dan just for you

>The “D” in D-Day stands for “Day”, in other words, “Day-Day”
>Americans
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>>469613
>White people were peasents and worked farms too at one point
How is this a "surprised fact?" White people lived as slave among black people up until very recently.

Case in point being the Ottoman raids on Iceland.
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Whites wuz Romans
Slavs wuz whites
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Rome was the most powerful empire to ever exist.
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Poland did what Hitler and tried. Caprured Moscow
Twice
Three Times if you count polish soldiers that stationed there with Napoleon
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>>469633
Thats not the Ottomans
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>>469635
Another fact for you: The Ottomans were Roman
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>>469620
>The “D” in D-Day stands for “Day”, in other words, “Day-Day”
>Americans

>Let brits name the op:
Beachy-Weechie Shooty-Whooty
>Let the Canucks name the op:
The Great Unfortunate Misunderstanding
>Let frog-eaters name the op:
C'est une battle

>>469640
SULTANATE OF ROME
NEVER FORGET
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Filipinos are the most powerful race
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This thread devolved into shitposting really fast
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>>469665
>facts that mind blowned you

It was shitposting from the start
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>>469620
Day of days
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>>469519
Youtube Wrath of the Khans for mongol shit, its a good series.
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>>469603
>Poland
>steppes

Retard lmao
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>>469923
Poland isn't directly part of the steppes, but it has always been part of the steppe rapetrain
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>>469925
>always

aka never
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>>469928
>Laughing_Huns_Sarmatians_and_Mongols.jpg
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>>469933
>Huns and Sarmatians

Poland wasn't a thing when those guys roamed about.

>Mongols

They waged war against them, that's about it.
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>>469943
>Poland wasn't a thing when those guys roamed about.
No shit, I'm talking about the area where modern Poland is.
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>>469945
No nigger, you literally said Poland.
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>>469928
>Legnica isn't real
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>>469949
I'm sorry about your autism that makes you take everything literally
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>>469952
>countries are figurative concepts
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>>469943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatism

Polish nobles pretended they were Sarmatian to the point where they dressed like them and wore imitation armour into battle.

Modern genetic analysis gives some credence to them being descended from them.
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>>469952
I mean, even literally...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_tribes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Poland_%281025%E2%80%931385%29

'Poland' was definitely a thing.
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>>469955
Do you think me using "rapetrain" also meant there was literally a train made out of rape?
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>>469960
Do you also refer to Hittite Empire as 'Turkey'?
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>>469964
No but many non-autists refer to the Hittites as living around Turkey. Normal people have the ability to infer that they mean the area where Turkey is today, not literally the modern country Turkey.
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>>469967
People who aren't mentally deficient refer to the geographical area as "Anatolia" or "Asia Minor".

Then again, the standards have dropped considerably in recent times.
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>>469969
Fuck off.

It's like calling England Albion
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>>469969
This.
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>>469969
>Numerous pastoral nomadic tribes forcibly procreated with various homo sapiens sapiens females across the Eurasian steppe over a span of several thousand years. This zone of genetic admixture ranged from the Vistula river to the Yalu river. This procreation has lead to a wide variety of admixtures displaying a mix of Mongoloid and Caucasoid features within the populations of this zone. Some of the descendants of this genetic exchange most likely includes an autistic anonymous poster who resides in or is descended from those who resided in the modern nation of Poland.

Satisfied now?
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>>469991

No it isn't. Turkey is a country, Anatolia is the area that happens to be currently controlled by Turkey.

Albion is poetic and shit.

>>469967
>No but many non-autists refer to the Hittites as living around Turkey

Maybe if they're writing a textbook for 6th-graders, sure.
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>>470008
Don't get rused by his autism. Especially not when he was wrong to begin with. Better to just ignore him and keep the thread going.
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>>469950
mongols just raided souther Poland a bit, never tried to conquer shit
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>>470008
I hope you're not implying the Sarmatians were Mongoloid.
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>>469950
>the French invaded Russia once
>thus Russians are French rape babbys
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>>469591
>calls other people afrocentrist
>posts Nordicist link instead

Sometimes I can't tell what's bait and what isn't on this site.
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>>470008
Sarmatians were Iranic (Indo-Europeans), you plebe.

The Ossetians (who still speak an Iranian language) claim to be descended from them. They probably looked similar.
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>>470046
how is that a nordicist link?
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>>470077
>march of the titans

Not the guy you're replying to, but come on anon.
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>>470077
>The Mongol leader Temujin (AD 1167-1227), better known by his title Genghis Khan (Universal Ruler), was a man of strongly Nordish racial ancestry
>gets date of birth wrong
>Nordish
>spends the rest of the article clinging to proof of whiteness like an afrocentrist clinging to proof of blackness

I shouldn't even have to explain a March of the Titans link.
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The native inhabitants of Hokkaido were probably white race-they are calling Ainu.
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>>470099
that doesn't explain how it's nordicist, so what if he got the date wrong that happens. Do you have any actual criticism or are you going to do the standard afrocentrist bulshit where you just nitpick and claim you won?
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Despite far higher armor losses overall, in head to head engagements between Sherman tanks and German tanks, (usually pz4s and Panthers), the Americans almost always kill more than they lose, for a tank to tank kill:loss ratio of about 3:2
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>>470112
Getting mad already son?
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>>470143
that's not an argument. I guess I'll take this win since you cant come up with some actual critiques and just want to scream 'NORDICIST!'.
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>>470158
That's right son. :3
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>>469621
Nigga wut I don't know if you're joking but the ottomans weren't black.
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>>470106
From the pictures I've seen of old Ainu they are more like pale hairy Abos.
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>>469393

>Attila the Hun was born in Hungary
[citation needed]

Hungarians claiming descent from Attila =/= Attila was Hungarian.
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>>469969
I don't think the area where Poland is situated has any other name than Poland.
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>>470112
How bad are you at history that you can't identify a shitty source when you see them?
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>>469591
>born thousands of kilometers from the nearest white person
>from central asian ancestry
>white
What the fuck. You are the guy calling other people nutjobs?
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>>470112
>People claim that Egyptians were black
Fucking afro-centrist, they are so dumb WE WUZ KING
>People claim that Genghis Khan was white
It's legit guy, they got the date wrong but it's totaly not a biased source

That some olympic tier mental gymnastics.
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>>469591
>http://marchofthetitans.com/earlson/genghis.htm
>batu was freckled!
Apparently mongols cant be freckled?
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-Goths survived until the early modern era in Crimea
-Gauls used the phalanx
-The Romans were Hellenized Celts
-The Romans survived for another thousand years after the fall of the western roman empire.
-Greeks had an indian kingdom in Afghanistan that had a pagan-Buddhist hybrid faith.
-Hiroshima and Nagasaki. it still blows my mind to think we dropped two nuclear bombs on a country
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>>472275

desu we are talking about one person here not an entire race

don't agree with him though, in fact i haven researched the topic one bit
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>>469424

lol saxons btfo
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>>469443
>>469616

>empire

try kingdom.
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>>469502
They weren't?
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>>469613
WE WUZ KINGZ
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>>470585
>>472213
>>472275
so you guys dont have an actual argument? that means i can assume that my sources are correct, right?
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Indeed True ,That why there is white caucasians in Morocco .the natives!
Berber or Amazigh people!
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>>474129
>,That why there is white caucasians in Morocco .the natives!

this is true too. the arabs were white nordic folk.

http://marchofthetitans.com/earlson/nordicarabs.htm
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The whole "Was African kings black?" sterns from Americans not counting what the rest of the world is counting, as black.

When you have US citizens arguing pic related isn't black, then of course they're not going to consider North Africans non-black, or at least they'll find it debatable.
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wow i just found this out on /pol/ and as an african american i cant be anymore proud|! the white man's lies are slowly being uncovered.
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Maoris arrived in New Zealand only a hundred years before Europeans.
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Cambodia was bombed with 550 000 tons of bombs in 1968-9. In comparison, Berlin got 2,300 in Battle of Berlin and whole of Japan 180 000 tons in WW2.
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if 1830 hadn't happend the nehterlands would have been one of the great powers of the 19th and 20th centuary.

god verdome kut walen
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The holocaust didn't actually happen
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>>469516
>>470426
Hungarians don't have much to do with Huns. Hungary and the demonym were given to us by Westerners to whom we looked the same (Pillaging wildmen from the East making great use of light cavalry and archery). Hungarians are Magyars (we call the country Magyarország, "Magyar country", a Finno-Ugric people most closely related to Finns and Estonians and a bunch of folks on the verge of extinction. People who subscribe to Turanist ideas and the theory of our Turanic/Turkic origins are idiots to the last of them, although it's correct that we have much in common with Turkic nomadic peoples, due to Magyars sharing lands and lifestyles with them for centuries.

t. a Hungarian who doesn't buy in to /pol/ tier bullshit
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>>469393
The United States were poised for world domination following WWII in Europe and Asia.
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>>469422
Vandals you mong
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>>469424
He's intentionally fanboying Vikings to make them and those who don't shit on then look retarded. And you fell right for it.
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>>472813
>Greeks had an indian kingdom in Afghanistan that had a pagan-Buddhist hybrid faith.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Bactrian_Kingdom
These guys?
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>>472813
>The Romans were Hellenized Celts
I'm reading that the Latins were simply Italic people. Not Celts.
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>>469577
>Mozart was black
When will this meme die?
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>>475459
Yes
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>>469411
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandal_Kingdom
Stop posting anytime friend
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>>472213
Uh I doubt Temujin was white in the Germanic sense, but Mongols fought and mingled with Saka and other Iranian tribes, heck the Cumans were mostly blonde and were a Turkic tribe.
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Ukraine today was once the Islamic Khanate of Crimea, and Russia Christened the area with mass migration from Germany.
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The Korean royal family got pretty wrecked after the Japanese takeover. After they took over and deposed monarchy, Prince Yi Wu, the heir to the throne, was sent to Japan as an officer. In 1945 they stationed him in Hiroshima. Whoops.

His son, still alive today, is the rightful heir to the throne, but like the South Korean government, he doesn't want a monarchy(he even gave the royal palace to the government after his mother's death). So his aunt and cousin are fighting a meaningless fight for a throne that will be recognized by none.
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We wuznt really kangz n shiet after all
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>>469640
does anyone have the version of this where Finland is heir to the Roman empire?
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>>477742
Obviously, I don't know why he's shitposting about the Ottomans or w/e he is.
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>>477752
>Mehmed
>illegitimate

It was recognized by Patriarch of Constantinople. It is as legitimate as it comes.

Legitimacy is not determined by 21st century /pol/tard nationalists.
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>>472813
>-Goths survived until the early modern era in Crimea
Why does this surprise people so much? It's not like there was a centuries long program to exterminate them, it's just ethnicity like any other.
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The Holy Roman Empire was not Holy nor Roman and not an Empire.
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>>469603
Mohammed had red hair

>He stayed ten years in Mecca receiving the Divine Inspiration, and stayed in Medina for ten more years. When he expired, he had scarcely twenty white hairs in his head and beard." Rabi'a said, "I saw some of his hairs and it was red. When I asked about that, I was told that it turned red because of scent."

http://www.inthenameofallah.org/Muhammad's%20Appearance.html
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>>469393
>>469393

except the vikings were originally black
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>>477912
>Vikings
>Black
Even if that were true, that would just cause more reasons for people to hate blacks.
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>>475261

>Shakespeare couldn't write his own name

Historical illiteracy at its finest.
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I might be wrong about this because I'm only going off vague Internet learned info over the years but

The wheel is apparently a very difficult and mysterious invention. Despite depictions of cave men inventing it for the first time the wheel was more properly developed in the early bronze age and didn't even catch on in all cultures.

Related most people have not used wheelbarrows or similar carts throughout history despite this seeming to be a very intuitive and helpful technology for labor. There are three independent developments of wheelbarrow: ancient Greece, China, and Medieval Europe. There seems to be debate whether or not the Romans had them or not. That's about as rare as the development of writing.

Again I say this with reservations but... in a more extreme example

Japan didn't seem to have the wheel at all until the 19th century. During which somehow the Rickshaw gets invented in defiance of a thousand years of bullshit. They had potters wheels and milling stones, but no way carry a load of rocks in a bucket across semi-flat surfaces.
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>>477306
And there are still a lot of Tatars in Crimea to this day.
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>>478147
M8, cart wheels are entirely dependant on the surface its rolling on; rocky, hilly terrain is not a surface you can push or pull a wheeled wagon on, it will fuck up the wheels in no time, it will get stuck time and time again, on this type of terrain beasts of burden are the better method of transport, and if you've got little to no access to beasts of burden then you are going to have to use human labour for it.
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>>478147
And then people try to claim American Indians were inferior just because they didn't use wheeled carts.
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>>476550
Calling it an empire is very overstated.
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>>478532
They had different cultures under one authority etc

It's a broad term.
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>>478532
I mean, it was a multi-ethnic/ cultural kingdom ruled by an ethnic-minority.
How much more empire-y can you get
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>>469538
Kek
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>>469577
WE
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>>470245
I think anon was talking about ottoman slaves being black, not the ottomans themselves
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>>477790
Mainstream Goths were lost long ago, and what's important is that gothic language and culture survived there.
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>>478560
Bigger than a thumbnail would be great.
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>>478540
Not broad enough for this to qualify.
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>>469393
>Mozart was black

Here is a better fact :

I had sex with your mom last night and she squirted.
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>>478147
You ever road in a wooden wheel cart?
It's the most uncomfortable shit.
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>>474159
arabs could be white but they are no nordics and there is. O connection with arabs and berbers. Thereis no point to talk about arabs here. Do more research.
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I had no idea
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The great pyramids are Giza are roughly 4500 years old. That's roughly 2500 years before Jesus and 200 years before Sargon of Akkad was forging his Sumerian empire.
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>>478940
This makes me wonder, are there actually any contemporary records on the pyramids? Like, are there some Mesopotamian scrolls talking about how the Egyptians are building some crazy shit.
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>>469594
When did Dan say Mozart was black?
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>>477790

Because Goths everywhere else had disappeared as a separate ethnic and linguistic group centuries ago.
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>>469393
The Vandal Kingdom wasn't really an Empire

Still a cool period of history, though.
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>>469516
You're an idiot.
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>>478727
WUZ
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>>479065
KHANZ
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>>470059
The Ossetians have little genetic connection to the Sarmatians.

When one people conquer another, the foreign ruling class is vastly, vastly outnumbered by the native people. This is why Arabs in Lebanon look so different from Arabs in Sudan.
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>>478940
the span of time from the Pyramids of Giza getting built to Cleopatra is longer than the span of time from Cleopatra to now. And those aren't even the oldest pyramids
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>>479089
The last woolly mammoths still existed while the pyramids were being built.
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>>475404
>Magyars sharing lands and lifestyles with them for centuries.
It was more than that, the Magyars had a combined polity with the Onoghurs, and this Onoghur Khanate was one of the entities spawned by the breakup of the Hunnish Empire. So there is a tenuous claim to being a political descendant of the Huns.
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how about facts that aren't true but you wish were?

>after the battle of Carrhae, Crassus (the richest man in the universe) was executed by having molten gold poured down his throat
>the PoW's from the legions he commanded were used as penal battalions on Persia's eastern border where most of them were captured in a battle against Han China and eventually settled among locals in a village in the western mountains whose inhabitants to this day look significantly more European than most Chinese people
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>>470106

Ainu are more closely related to Japanese and Ryukyuans than to any other races. Outside of Japanese archipelago, the most closely related race to these are the Tibetans.
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There were Anglo-Saxon Varangian guardsmen.
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>>477742
No because it's fucking retarded.
Germanics sack Rome:
>WE WUZ ROMANS N SHIT
>Title of Emperor SOLD to Franks, Russians. WE WAS ROMANS N SHIT .
>Turkish inbreds sack Constantinople: WEZ ROMANS NAO
>The last part of Europe to not be directly influenced to Rome (Scandinavia) are now WE WAS ROMANS N SHIT.
Get over yourselves. The Roman Empire was lost forever in 476.
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>>479205
I assumed that was common knowledge, I remember reading it got to point that any mercenary from northern or Central Europe were considered Varangians
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>>478147
>Medieval Europe
medieval europeans didnt discover the wheel independently
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>>478147
>Japan didn't seem to have the wheel at all until the 19th century

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J08wvDV3r3g
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>>469591
WE WUZ KHANS
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>>478836
It was fucking core Carthage. If Egypt and Babylon had empires, this one is too.
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>>479394
They were both bigger especially Egypt.
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>>469640
Tzar doesnt mean roman emperor. In fact at the time the tzars started showing up the roman emperor wasnt called caesar, he was imperator.
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>>470029
But the russians werent even there when that happened, they were all on vacation east.
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>>479394
they were both much bigger. that little strip of land can only fit around 2000 people
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>>469414
>Roman Scholars
>Vikings

I hope you mean Byzantine when you say Roman
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>>475272
It was four hundred years, but yeah, this is a good one.
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>>479451
Is this some retarded le so fanney /his/ meymeyz that I am not aware of, or are you genuinely retarded?
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>>469585
>Mozart was black
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>>479157

>Jesus was born out of the Virgin Mary's ass. That was the original miracle, but it was considered too disgusting, so "Virgin Birth" was invented.
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>>479234
>Finland is Scandinavia
They're barely Nordic, they don't even speak a North Germanic language.
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>>479889
And since I didn't clarify enough, the green text is because they're not on the Scandinavian peninsula.
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>>469591
You ever consider that white people have traits in common with mongolians because the monogolians raped the fuck out of europe back in the day?
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>>469393
Atilla was born in Itil
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There is Varangian Graffiti in the Hagia Sophia
One of the furst ways Christians taught the life of Christ was to insert him in older epics and myths
The Irish largely saved Western Civilization
Charlemagne did not expect to be crowned Emperor, but rather his son.
Minoan Civilization was likely matriarchal
The Phoenicians likely rounded the Cape of Good Hope
Largely Roman Art, Science, Culture regressed in the Imperial era.
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>>480059
>The Irish largely saved Western Civilization
How?
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>>480059
>The Phoenicians likely rounded the Cape of Good Hope
we wuz navigators n shieet
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>>481420
By storing important books that had been burned in Europe due to wars.
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>>469414
>romans
>praising the weapons and tactics of vikings
No.

The empire already had the romphia, which fills the same niche.

As far as armor goes-they had the same shit, plus better gear.

Tactics?
It's a fucking shield wall. Not impressive to people who have that, something akin to pike and shot, and formations with 4 or so types on infantry moving in concert-and this with infanry being their SECONDARY arm, with cavalry being the focus.
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>>479234
>476
Eastern empire was alive, well, doing everything official in latin, and ordering legions around in latin.

The earliest you can argue, at all, if the official changeover in language, and the earliest reasonable date is the adoption of the theme system, which can be said to change from centralized bureaucracy to feudal empire.


It's still wrong, but it's at least reasonable.
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There was a tribal group in central Asia called the Tocharians that spoke a Northern Indo-European language (like, more closely related to German than Sanskrit). Most of what we know of their language about them come from Buddhist religious texts in abandoned shrines in the region.
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>>483037
>he responded to a viking meme post

you must be new to /his
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There are several large scale ancient civilizations that we know existed, but we know little about them other than pottery. One civilization in particular in Central Asia near the Caspian sea, was recently discovered using ground-penetrating radar. We can create maps of their cities, and some were larger than comparable ancient cities like Athens, Rome, or Luoyang, despite the Caspian sea peoples being much older. Some archaeologists and scientists think that some of their structures may have been large pyramid structures on par with early Egyptian pyramids.

We literally know nothing else about them however. It's crazy to think that entire civilizations with thousands, perhaps even millions, of people have flourished and gone unrecorded or recognized in modern times.
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>>469633
>the Roman Empire of Empire
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Heres an amazing one i found when doing my dissertation. Its completely understudied.

>theres a substrata of loanwords in sumerian.
>from its inception as a written language
>the language doesnt seem to be indoeuropean or semitic or a sumerian subtype
>literally all the words relate to higher civilisation concepts eg cook (the person), table, etc. Not basic stuff.
>there's some sort of highly advanced presumably preliterate society out there (yes they can exist, uruk in 3000bc) that heavily iinfluenced sumer at an early stage, with a completely unknown language.
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>>481634
They did reach south america so why not round the african coast?
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>>478940
AKKADIAN EMPIRE FUCKHEAD.

MOTHERFUCKING AKKADIAN

SARGON OF AKKAD FUCKFACE
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>>483172
further literature?
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>>479409
Imperator is the older title descended from'commander'. It was one of many titles used alongside others, eg princips. The lead emperor was later Augustus, the junior caesar. But both used caesar in their praenomen. Tldr you dont know shit.
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>>483229
Literally from random papers on urIII grammar. Might be mentioned by Thorkild jacobsen who remains one of the greatest minds of the fiele. Like I say, understudied.
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>>483172
pretty sure those were the goa'uld
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>>483172
That's fascinating. Any suggestions for books on the subject?
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>>483252
Bravo
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>>483259
Yeah there are literally no books. Its footnotes and comments in things about grammar etc, nothing extensive. Someone really needs to sit down and compile similarites, reconstruct conventions etc, but i couldnt tell you how extensive it is. I might look at it if i do a doctorate but fuck itd be a huge project.
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>>483275
A few wishful thinkers are vaguely saying LOL INDUS VALLEY OMG at the sidelines at thw moments, but thats some real wishful thinking. Especially since shit like 'bensir' for table doesnt look indoeuropean at all.
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>>469633
That map.
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>>474188
Ethiopians aren't black. When I say black I'm not referring to skin color.
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>>479234
>476
The wre fell in 480, but the ere continued until 1453.
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>>479265
underated
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>>483516
Use a more accurate word then.
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Alexander The Great was of modern day Korean ancestry.
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Turks are actually roman descendants when some legionaries settled in central asia after their wars in persia
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>>483642
elaborate pls
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>>475472
Latins = people from Latio region.
I'm pretty sure anon meant the general population of the Roman Empire but forgot there were more Gauls and Germanic tribes than Celts altogether. It really wasn't homogenous as it isn't nowadays.
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We all belong to individual haplogroups which paint an extremely accurate picture of our genetic history if only more people were tested and their results uploaded for the world. This genetic map coincides with historical events and you can then find out what tribe/ancient nation your direct paternal ancestor belonged to.
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>>483241
Quite often the titles are understood wrong. Basileus, Caesar, Imperator, Kaiser, Tzar, King, Emperor and so on were interchanged and misunderstood throughout the history mostly thanks to mistranslation of documents.
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One I only recently learned myself

>The Vikings inhabited Greenland a century or two before the Inuit did
>The Inuit wiped out the natives that lived in north Greenland before colonizing the rest of it
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>>479253
he wrote the wheelbarrow
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>>484199
>The Inuit wiped out the natives that lived in north Greenland before colonizing the rest of it
I can't remember the book on the fly, but Thor Heyrdahl has a theory that the native Norse went to America and settled there permanently
the proof is a runestone and the Europeans met a tribe of Native Americans who had blue-eyed and blond members
and they had a few words which sounded like old Norse

I'll post the book when I get home
you should read it if this interests you
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>>479243
I don't think common mercenary can be considered royal guard
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>>484147
well, you're most probably mix of bunch of tribes, nations, so it's not that easy
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>>484236
Yes please, that sounds like an interesting read.

From what I've read the Inuit have folk tales of the last Viking settlements in Greenland being sacked by European pirates so they took in the women and children.
IIRC there isn't much genetic evidence either way yet.
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Swedish is closer to Bengali than to Finnish.
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>>484156
My personal favourite is the Mughal emperor Akbar the Great.
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>>484236
You mean Thor 'incas did easter island'
Heyrdahl?
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>>483072
Aren't we all new to his?? Its like 2 months old maybe.
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>>484294
yes, his theories are a bit "out there"
but he's not on the level of Daniken or anything
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>>469440
Highly underrated
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>>469414
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Boru
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When Columbus visited Galway, Ireland in 1477 he found 2 dead inuit people in a "tree trunk". 8 years later he would write about the incident in his diary and soon after set sail for the land these people came from
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>>469440
>>484343
That joke is probably the highlight of this quickly-disgraced thread.

>>483172
Holy shit this sounds neat.
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>>469393
>mind blowned you
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>>484199
in Canada, Inuits are considered legally separate from other native tribes because they only actually showed up in North America about the same time Europeans did
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Rural regions of Sweden wrote, unofficially, in runes until late 19th century, usually in their own fucked up, incomprehensible dialect of Swedish
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>>469393
Hungarian marches are bretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGVaeqNT5JI
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Hitler only had one testicle
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>>485606
I don't believe you
> Look it up
What the fuck
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>>478147
Over land travel has generally been dangerous, exhausting, slow and prohibitively expensive for most of history. Also consider that the process of vulcanization wasn't discovered until the 19th century. You'd have been limited to wood.or stone, which is absolutely brutal to use and easily damaged.
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>>478949
Lol. No. The Egyptians recorded most of their records on papyrus. That's why we barely know anything about them aside from what's written on their monuments.
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>>477784

Only the Roman Senate can legally crown someone Roman Emperor. Since the senate in the west disappeared in the early 600s, Charlemagne's claim means nothing, and since the eastern senate disappeared after 1453, Mehmed's claim also means nothing. Neither the Pope nor the Ecumenical Patriarch posses the power to crown someone as Roman Emperor.
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There are Native Americans that up to this date, had little to no contact with Western civilizations
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>>478147

M8, there's wheel tracks preserved on concrete and stone roads in Pompeii. You're thinking of the war chariot, not wheelbarrows and carriages.
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>>483047

The theme system didn't really change the Roman system or governance that much. Governors still had to collect taxes and send them on to Constantinople. At the end of the year, they would receive a portion back for the upkeep of their militia troops.
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>>477469
Hi /pol/
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>>483287

They might be loanwords from an earlier civilization that inhabited the area. We know that humans tended to form massive tribal confederations (Cimmeria roughly corresponds to the proposed Indo-European homeland, so it's possible the Cimmerians were the descendants of those Indo-Europeans who did not choose to migrate) and pillage the fuck out of everything they could. I'm not up to date on Near Eastern history, but it's possible the Summerians could have originated elsewhere in the Near East and pillaged their way through a different state. The reverse could also be true, but with the invaders ending up assimilating.
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>>485687
I'm asking about Mesopotamian records, or other records in nearby areas, that might have also mentioned the pyramids while they were being built.
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>>484270
>Swedish is closer to Somalian than to Finnish.
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>>469393
The oldest extant Italian yew longbow is over 5000 years old and pretty much indistinguishable from the Mary Rose (1540) longbows found. Perhaps it's reasonable to say the bow remained the most unchanged weapon of the past few millennia, even the spear changed materials a few times and the design was radically altered.

Arian Christianity was a thing among pretty much all invading germanic tribes during the late roman empire.

Alexander the Great didn't just conquer a bunch of sand people countries but actually conquered the beacon of civilization of that time (I always used to wonder why he didn't invade Europe, only later realizing there was very little going on there).

Anything and everything related to Indo-European languages and culture really.
>>469432
>Gratian wrote the Decretum, which became the basis for Canon Law (the legal system for running the Roman Catholic Church) based on these forgeries


That explains a lot.
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>>480059

Roman art and culture only started to decline when the civil wars started, plague set in, and the pagan versus Christianity conflict began.
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>>469393
White people were created as a race of devils by a genius and cruel black scientist named Yakub. Just kidding that's no joke what the backwards afro-centric Nation of Islam believes. It's a mind-blowing fact that people believe this. They believe Black people were the original and true version of humanity and white people were the servants of Satan. With Asian and brown peoples byproducts of white's being created.
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>>477784
Augustus wasn't recognized by the Patriarch of Constantinople. Was he not legit?
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>>478560
Is Belgium an empire? Or Finland?
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>>484270
Its vocabulary isn't
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>>473487
Linguistically no
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>>485665
Welcome to Dalsland, motherfucker
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>>483774
He's trolling you. Sasha was a South Slav from FYROM. Not remotely Korean.
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>>486328
>Finland
see >>478874
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>>469613
>White people were peasents and worked farms too at one point
Yeah? Most people were peasants working in farms until the Industrial Revolution
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>>486328
Belgium is a rebellious province of the Netherlands
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>>469393
japs were worse than nazis
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>>469422
The Vandals and Visigoths. Are you seriously fucking retarded?
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>>469650
>Ce N'est pas une Battale
T. Foucault
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>>487604
This. When i was reading about japanese war crimes i was disgusted. It explains why their culture and social structure is still fucked up
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