All of them
>>468278
War on drugs
None of them.
WWI
>>468281
Reddit as fuck
>>468290
rip
>>468278
Peloponnesian war
>>468281
Too real.
>>468278
Football War.
Toyota War.
>>468501
what's more reddit is this board's obsession with wars
>>468856
reddit is a pointless boogeyman.
4chan is mainstream enough that a majority of its user base probably also browses reddit.
>>468278
WW1
WW2
WW3 (Cold War)
WW4 (War Against Terrorism)
Emu War
>>468863
The vast majority of people who browse the site will never actually post, except on maybe very rare occasions, and just watch us like we're a zoo. Most of these people are either Chinese or Reddit.
>>468281
Simplistic but, yeah.
>>468281
This.
War indicates a failure of people maintaining their civility.
>Lincoln: "I mean, I hate slavery, but I'm not gonna run out and make it illegal or anything. Chill out."
>South: "Holy shit, this guy is gonna MAKE SLAVERY ILLEGAL."
>Lincoln: "lol no seriously guys, just because I don't want slavery in the frontier territories doesn't mean..."
>South: "WE WILL SECEDE FOR OUR STATE'S RIGHTS!"
>A few years later.
>400,000 lives lost.
>Military occupation.
>South in ruins.
>Slavery illegal.
>there are people in CURRENT YEAR who look up to these retards.
>>469495
Oh come on, this isn't even the most retarded or meaningless. At the same time across the Pacific, a NEET (he failed the civil service exams) managed to get 40 million chinese killed because he convinced people he was Jesus' brother.
>>468884
I used to be one of these people I was here for like 2 years before posting
>>469513
>he convinced people he was Jesus' brother.
Most people joined the Taiping Rebellion to get back at the Qings.
>>469513
Jesus' _older_ brother.
>>469528
as it should be
>>469495
Jesus Christ anon, have you ever heard of a fucking social landscape? The abolitionists were getting angrier and more influential than ever and it was only a matter of time until it happened. Lincoln was obviously going to side with the abolitionists and emancipation wasn't far behind. You're thinking in circles here.
Falklands. Neither side could possibly justify deploying 0.1% of the forces they did for that irrelevant landmass.
>>469631
Rebelling for the right to own people as property is a fucking stupid reason to rebel.
war of jenkin's ear
>>468847
What was meaningless about the Toyota War?
>>471117
was just gonna ask that
>>469513
>Not the most retarded or meaningless
>Somehow makes it less retarded and meaningless
Nope.
>29 replies and no one has posted the Emu War yet
kek
>>471189
>real wars only pls
>>471086
Sure is whiggish in here
Soviet-Afghan war
>>468281
This, tbqh.
As expected this triggered autists, but it's true.
The Cod War, or the even more thrilling, The 2nd Cod War.
>>468884
Back in the days this was called lurking and it was seen as the right thing to do.
my diary, desu
>>471205
It propped up the Afghan communists until 1991 until the Americans and Pakistanis ruined it
>>471219
>has a basic knowledge of Nietzsche
>>471228
Advanced, I actually read his pacifistic early work too.
Explain to me what is so valuable about a human life?
>>471236
We're all god's children :^)
Nah I don't really know, your post just screamed of Nietzsche and I wanted to call you out on that.
>>471236
Every human life is a faggot
>>471059
Argentina violated British sovereignty and wanted to conquer a group of islands that had never been theirs and that were inhabited by British subjects.
If some dictator of an irrelevant country were stupid enough to invade American Samoa you can bet we'd declare war on them within the hour.
that time when France invaded Mexico because mexicans damaged a bakery and refused to pay for it
>>471059
Brittania rules the waves faggot
>inb4 las Malvinas
>>471059
oil
to not look weak
"muh freedoms"
>>471208
>conquest and power consolidation are meaningless
gooby pls
>>468482
Such a waste that war was.
>>471391
>>471212
It still is. It still is.
>>468278
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars
>>471529
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry_War
Hello I am Ferdinand and welcome to jackass.
>>471575
>when you wanna join the Haters' Ball but they got more hate than you
>>468282
Exercise in futility, thinking they could actually stop people's urges. Basically "NO! STOP ENJOYING THINGS!"
>>471059
>defending subjects of your crown and citizens of your overseas territories from rabid argies is pointless
the landmass is nothing worth fighting about, but the falklanders were british and we couldn't just abandon them to the rule of a dictator just because 'le island is le small'
>>471288
>Argentina violated British sovereignty and wanted to conquer a group of islands that had never been theirs
>>471211
Cod is trash and deserved its losses to the superior Walleye Sovereignty.
>>471205
Just think how great Afghanistan could have been under communist rule. It would be like Bosnia, Albania or Kazakhstan in terms of Islam, but MERICA had to fuck it up. 9/11 was justified.
>>471745
>accessibility and environment is not a factor
>>471745
More like "NO! STOP FUNDING DRUG TRAFFICKERS"
>>468847
>Toyota War
One of the most interesting wars in recent history. Plus it was a textbook case of legitimate resistance to aggressive expansion. I'm not seeing what's pointless here.
>>472310
Anon, if all drugs were legally accessible and regulated in the same way alcohol, tobacco, and now cannabis is then drug traffickers would be severely undercut.
>>472329
what this guy said, best way to stop drug trafficking is to put them out of business
>>468282
Basically any war on human nature. Whether it is sex (prostitution)or need for distraction (circus and drugs) can be considered meaningless and will fail.
>>471192
you weren't there man
The Vietnam war after congress dishonored our obligation to help south Vietnam during the norths reinvasion
>>471227
Actually, it knocked them back to the Middle Ages. Afghanistan was developing nicely until the Soviet invasion and if you look for them, you can find interviews with Miss Afghanistan 1976. She was her country's version of Vanna White for her day job.
Beslan was justified.
>>472315
>You are now aware that Chad is a nation of literal Chads.
>>468281
This.
Wars are failures to solve problems by less destructive means.
>>468881
bait bait baitbait baitbaitbait baitbait bait bait bait
>>473182
Afghanistan was developing nicely until Americans started propping up the Alahu Akbars Soviet support was what got them out of the stone age and American support was what knocked them back into the Dark Ages.
>>472310
Yeah because out of all the awful things the US government has done, funding or enabling drug traffickers hasn't been one of them.
>>471205
>/thread
>>468281
Isn't WWII the absolute in disproving this?
It's the meaningful response to a meaningless war, but it still counts.
>>471086
>Rebelling for the right to own animals as property is a fucking stupid reason to rebel.
>Rebelling for the right to own property is a fucking stupid reason to rebel.
>Rebelling for rights is a fucking stupid reason to rebel.
Tamerlane's 'muh genghis' outrage.
>>469434>>468281
Fucking Democracy-Age plebeians.
War worked very well up until Industrialized wars happened. Then the Major conflicts of the 20th Century decided what kind of system would reign over the world, Militancy or Democracy. Democracy won and be thankful, but it only won because war happened.
>>473689
>War worked very well up until Industrialized wars happened.
Like the 30 year war
>>473719
Always exceptions.
>>469533
The legendary immaculate double whammy.
>>471059
>irrelevant landmass
fucking EEZs faggot
>>468482
I dunno every time I think about WWI I get sad as fuck. I suppose it's more or less the fact that it actually happened and pretty much set the some sort of rules for warfare. That's just how barbaric the fighting got.
>>468281
Name one thing that gets stuff done better than war
>>473738
>money
>>473624
There's a big difference between owning another person and any of the reasons you listed.
>>473624
Rebelling for the right to keep slavery intact was a fucking stupid reason to rebel.
You can't bitch about your fucking rights when you're actively preventing an entire race of people from receiving their own rights. That's some of the most hypocritical bullshit I could imagine.
>>473805
>MUH STATES RIGHTS
>>471552
>In a skirmish with the rear guard of the French, Santa Anna was wounded in the leg by French grapeshot
>His leg was amputated, and buried with full military honors
I've heard that before but hearing it in context makes it so much funnier
>>473728
Exceptions that ruin entire countries and kill countless.
The Iran-Iraq war, AKA WW1 with helicopters.
>Iran has a revolution
>Saddam doesn't want their ideas spreading and threatening his dictator ship so he invades
>Gets beat the fuck back
>Iran invades Iraq so as to stop Saddam's shenanigans
>US tries to come up with an excuse to glass Iran, so Iran is unable to effectively cut off Iraqi supply lines for fear of intervention
>Iraq forces a ceasefire by repeatedly dropping nerve gas on heavily populated civilian centers
>World leaders collectively give Saddam a handjob and he never does anything bad again
The Battle of the Marshes was particularly fucked up. Barbed wire and live electrical cables were run through the water while Iraqi helicopter pilots would "hunt" the Iranian soldiers. Mustard gas was also heavily used.
It was only due to Iranian zerg rushes that they managed to "win" the battle.
>>473854
It's pretty interesting how badly we could have avoided like 70% of all the world's conflicts right now if we just never intervened with the Middle East in any of their conflicts.
>>473873
Off topic: do you think the west ( or developed countries in general) has a moral obligation to intervene in conflicts when it is to the benefit of the general populace of the conflicted peoples?
>>468290
>and presumably all the soup held within
fucking ANIMALS!
>>473902
Different anon, but I think in the case of the Iran-Iraq war Saddam should have been overthrown on the spot the moment he started wiping out cities with gas.
The Geneva Convention is a fucking joke.
>>472310
>More like "NO! STOP FUNDING DRUG TRAFFICKERS"
Yeah, the government hates competition (Iran-Contra, Afghanistan, Fast and Furious, etc.)
>>473854
Saddam didn't invade Iran because he was afraid of of Islamic populism spreading to Iraq, he invaded because he thought the country was in disarray and wouldn't be able to mount an effective resistance. He wanted to take Iran's Arab-speaking regions, specifically in Khuzestan, and take all of the Shatt-al-Arab.
Unfortunately for him, his army turned out to be a lot less effective in the field than he thought it was.
>>473621
Germany and Japan were quite retarded for starting the war.
>>473689
Wars back then created empires which were themselves awful and tyrannical.
>>473738
>name one thing that get shits done better than blowing up the people and things that allow humans to do stuff
Pretty much everything else.
>>473624
The northern states wanted to take away those rights? Well fuck me sideways, if that's true you do have a point, it was a good reason to rebel.
The only other alternative would be that you're a fucking moron.
>ctrl f:
>class
>capital
>markets
>0 results
so naive
>>473689
>Militancy vs. Democracy.
What on earth are you smoking? Wars are and always have been fought over two things: resources and security. Ideology has been used as justification but it's never been the main reason a war has ever been fought.
What the fuck is 'militancy' even supposed to mean as an ideology?
/his/ really is a trash board.
>>468278
The American Civil War
Probably one of the most avoidable wars in history Tbh
>>474641
>Reductivist IR "realism"
Hang yourself with your own guts, my man!
>>474650
Funny thing is, resources fall under the umbrella of "security". So it's correct to say that all wars are fought over national (read: state) security.
Of course, the concept of security is totally ambiguous and subjective, so the equivalence, while correct, provides no insight.
>>474666
>666
What a perfect summary of bourgeois methodology and theory. Well done sir.
>>474650
>Making up Ideologies to frame a cinematic 'good vs. evil' struggle to describe the warfare of an entire century.
>>474677
>>Making up Ideologies to frame a cinematic 'good vs. evil' struggle to describe the warfare of an entire century.
Yes, IR "Liberalism" is exactly as reductivist and cretinistic. Upgrade to a real discipline before it is too late.
>>474681
>Using big words to sound smart: the post
We're all anon here, anon. You don't have to wave your thesaurus around.
If the goal of IR theory is to understand international relations in order to make valid predictions as to how certain actors will perform under specific stimuli, why shouldn't it be reductivist? If you make a seperate set of variables for every instance that every actor goes through you can never make any meaningful conclusions as every new scenario starts with fresh variables.
>>471391
france has a habit of trying to bully american nations for stupid reasons
The Lobster War
>the Brazilian government refused to allow French fishing vessels to catch spiny lobsters 100 miles off the Brazilian northeast coast,[5] arguing that lobsters "crawl along the continental shelf", while the French sustained that "lobsters swim" and that therefore, they might be caught by any fishing vessel from any country.
In the 1960s no less.
Ended with 1 french ship being apprehended.
>>474731
Shame about your capacity to make unified predictions as a discipline. Kind of invalidates your claims for post-docs and positions.
>>474763
I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't do this shit for a living, i'm just a shitposter on 4chan. Haven't even read any books on IR
I'm genuinely curious though, How can anyone studying IR claim anything that they say is valid without constructing some sort of model? Or is it genuinely a total crapshoot and so the reason why humanities aren't taken seriously by anyone?
>>468501
I'm surprised those fedoras haven't tipped
>>473624
They might have a rebellion for animal rights in 200 years, who knows. Either way, it'd be just as valid as judging the confederates for what they did, even if it seems ridiculous to you now.
>>474822
>I don't do this shit for a living
And yet you really thing your ill-informed opinion of the epistemological and theoretical validity of IR is worthwhile?
This board is called History & Humanities, not History & invalid social sciences.
>>474867
Argument from authority is a logical fallacy bro. I asked a genuine question and you chose to say 'I am very smart, so listen to me' instead of answering it.
So go on, i'm listening.
>>474914
IR serves the state.
Its theoretical categories are facile and reductivist.
It cannot produce agreed predictions within a particular theoretical discourse.
Its predictions fail.
It is not a humanity because of its reductivism, and it is not a social science because of its predictive failure at the level of problem specification.
That war Bologna fought with Spain over a noble who hoped over the border just to shit in a horse's bucket.
>>471059
I remember Jorge Luis Borges' quote, "like two bald men fighting over a comb" kek
Irish Civil War
I Hate Brits vs I Really Hate Brits
I Hate Brits win
>>468290
RIP soup 1784-1784
>>468278
from what view point?
Basically all of them, wars are always stupid.
>>473737
>That one time they stopped fighting on Christmas and celebrated together
http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/christmas-truce-of-1914
101 years ago now
>>471575
>war to unite all bulgarian peoples under one flag
>pointless
>>474989
kek
>>473182
> Soviet invasion
That's like calling Vietnam War the US invasion of South Vietnam
.
MICHIGAN BTFO
>>468282
DUDE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_at_Petrich
>>469434
>War indicates a failure of people maintaining their civility.
But who decided that not fighting is civil and the right thing to do?
[Spoiler]nodern western culture[/spoiler]
Y u no culture relativate?
>>468278
>all those resources put into war
>all those able men of body and mind
what a waste
>>473182
>Beslan was justified
Nice b8 Abdul
>>474629
the class war is the most important war what are you talking about
>>469495
Well, many of the Confederates are descendants of Ulster Planters
Seems to be an innate trend for them to jump to conclusions and arm themselves while clutching a fleg
>>468278
The Philippine-American War was pretty pointless. If the US wanted ports, the Flips would have happily given it to them. But nope, America wanted to go full imperialist.
>>473689
>bootlicker detected
Wars happen because old men want young men to die in them.
>>475864
Some ginger boys are qt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaco_War
>Bolivia and Paraguay go to war over contested sparsely populated land, thinking there would be oil there
>hundreds of thousands die in three years of warfare
>they spend resources that as landlocked and poor countries, they absolute do not have
>to make thing worse, foreign powers and even foreign oil companies intervene on both sides
>Paraguay wins, Bolivia loses another chunk of it's territory
>there is no oil there
>>473902
Fuck obligation, we have a financial interest.
>>476855
There were even White Russians generals fighting there. To the hintherlands of Latin America to the warlord period of China, these guys appear eveywhere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Belaieff
>Juan Belaieff died in Asuncion on January 19, 1957. He belonged to the Russian Orthodox Church. According to his will, after the memorial service his body was transported to the west bank of the Paraguay river, where the Gran Chaco region begins, and buried in a mausoleum inside a Maká reservation. After his death, Belaieff became a messianic deity for the Maká people.
>>471246
Underrated toast.
>>468278
The Lobster War (also known as Lobster Operation) is an ironic name given to a dispute over spiny lobsters which occurred from 1961 to 1963 between Brazil and France. The Brazilian government refused to allow French fishing vessels to catch spiny lobsters 100 miles off the Brazilian northeast coast,[5] arguing that lobsters "crawl along the continental shelf", while the French sustained that "lobsters swim" and that therefore, they might be caught by any fishing vessel from any country. The dispute was resolved unilaterally by Brazil, which extended its territorial waters to a 200-mile zone, taking in the disputed lobsters' bed.[6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster_War
>>479519
The Cod Wars (Icelandic: Þorskastríðin, "the cod war", or Landhelgisstríðin, "the war for the territorial waters"[1]) were a series of confrontations between the United Kingdom and Iceland regarding fishing rights in the North Atlantic. Each of the disputes ended with Iceland's victory.[2][3] The final Cod War concluded with a highly favorable agreement for Iceland, as the United Kingdom conceded to a 200 nautical-mile Icelandic exclusive fishery zone.[3]
The term "cod war" was coined by a British journalist in early September 1958.[4] None of the Cod Wars meet any of the common thresholds for a conventional war though, and may more accurately be described as militarized interstate disputes.[5][6][7][8]
3 fucking mini wars fought for finishing rights
All of them but I mean for answers you probably would want you'd be hard pressed to find a war fought because of a severed ear
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Jenkins%27_Ear
World War One was the most needlessly destructive without a shadow of a doubt.
There was literally no point, it wasn't a clash of ideology (Vietnam, Korea) or facing a genuine evil (WWII). It was the rulers who sent millions of young boys to their death and made the world an irrevocably worse place at the conclusion of the war.
Without a doubt the most tragic event in human history.
>>479550
Get the fuck out of here.
>hurr durr defending against an invasion is pointless
>hurr durr territorial/political expansion is not a reason for war either
>>473621
>germany conquers parts of europe because lol lebensraum and lol national pride
>italy conquers parts of africa because lol fascism
>japan conquers parts of china because lol the superior nippon race
>USSR conquers parts of eastern europe because lol must spread communism
good reasons for war yes
>>479519
Can we really call that a War? Rather a diplomatic skirmish
>>473767
kek
>>471529
Nappy 3 trying to prove himself
>>479525
>The [Icelandic] economy depends heavily on the fishing industry, which provides 40% of export earnings, more than 12% of GDP, and employs nearly 5% of the work force.
>meaningless to defend that
>>479525
>>479525
As an Icelander I say fuck the british, they need to fuck off into their own waters. We had told them what our fishing range was but they decided that it was THEM that was going to decide where WE can fish in OUR waters. They sure did like it when we kicked their asses with a bunch of sheep shaggers in run down dinghy boats.
>>480104
>We
Stopped reading right there
Vietnam war
>>480183
>fortunate son starts playing
>>476841
But anon, the posts you quoted ARE the shitposts
>>471855
Not that anon, but Argentina only had it for like 5 years and they made barely any colonization attempts. It'd be like claiming the Netherlands has a right to take New York City because it was originally their colony.
>>474739
Don't forget the cod wars!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cod_Wars
>>480228
>fortunate son
You mean "It ain't me"? If you're gonna talk Rolling stones music, you best get the title right.
