What would have changed had Martel lost at Tours?
Nothing
>>466435
see balkans
>>466435
Pippinids hardly would have in to dominating the whole Francia.
>>466435
They would have lost at Bordeaux.
>>466459
>wearing flip flops
God why can't people see how disgusting and unmasculine those things are?
>>466435
Muslims may have help on to Aquitaine and Gascony for some time but the Umayyad lines were too stretched for them to realistically hold on t those territories or expand any further
>>466435
Europe would have gone full Abbasid and benefited from it intensely.
Not so much. Muslims raids lasted for a century after the battle. The only notable thing would be the duke of Aquitaine not submitting to the franks
>>466694
> 732
> Al-Andalusia
> Abbasids
>>466717
The scientific and cultural advancements were one in the same.
>>466460
Chetniks committed just as many, if not more, atrocities than the Bosnians.
Though I disagree with the Bosnians submitting to NATO, they were acting in self defense - in the face of threatened genocide.
>>466694
>Europe would have gone full Abbasid
No. It's not even certain that France would have fallen.
>>466694
>le Islamic golden age
some Persian boy rapers stealing greek pseudo science was truly the pinnacle of humanity guise I totally read it on leddit xD
>>466743
The Middle East was more advanced than Western Europe at that time. This is historical fact. If you refuse to accept it, you don't belong on this board.
>>466728
>Bosnians
They are not Bosnians but turkish islamized slavs hat migrated there. stop posting that islamic irredenta meme. also 25 years rule, or report.
>>466754
I wasn't necessarily implying it wasn't faggot. I was stating that it had little to nothing to do with islam and the "middle east" (which spain isn't a fucking part of) is fuck huge region. all Islamic lands weren't necessarily more advanced. case in point being the Moors
>>466460
Bosnian Muji were actually much smaller than they ought to have been given the circumstances
>>466435
The real question is what is that woman and her baby doing in the middle of a large battle?
>>466435
A few Muslim principalities would have lingered on for a while longer than they did, and Southern France would have developed politically independent of northern France. Switzerland may have developed faster as both a trade depot between a Provence more economically linked with Muslim Spain and North Africa and as a link between Northern Europe and the Catholic Church.
The Lombards and Avars might have continued as independent powers as well.
>>466459
What's that hand sign?
>>467024
quenelle
>>466435
the ayrap familial tribalists would have been defeated by someone else... either that or Europe would have been islamicized and we would live in a world dominated by white muslim fascists
>>467024
It's a code faggots use to find a partner.
>charles the hammer
>he has an axe
why is classical art so shit
>>467416
I think its because he smashed the Muslims forces and sent them running back to Iberia
