>Deutsch
>German
>Allemande
>Heмeцкий
>Tysk
>Saksan
Why did people come up with so many fucking names for Germans?
Because typically when a place has their own language, they will make up a name for a country's people. You could say that for any country.
Because Germany is a social construct.
>>461748
But you don't have this divergence with other peoples:
>Francais
>French
>Francese
>Фpaнцyзcкий
>franska
>English
>Englisch
>Anglais
>aнглийcкий
etc etc
>>461723
>German
>People
pick one desu senpai
Because Germany doesn't exist. It's just a bunch of tribes that got conquered by Prussia. Everyone just calls it by the name of the nearest tribe.
>>461723
>Deutsch
>Tysk
these are the same word
>>461765
Funny how nobody calls it "Prussian" (or "Preus" or whatever) then.
Btw interestingly, the Russian word for Germans, нeмeцкий, doesn't come from any particular name but from the word нeмoй, which means dumb or unable to talk. This is because they didn't understand wtf they were saying.
Because Germany hasn't been considered a unified nation or polity for the vast majority of recorded history.
>Deutsch
>Tysk
same word, originally close in sense to "the people". endonymic.
>Allemande
means what it looks like, "all men", reflecting the name's antique origin as a description for a conglomerate of Germanic tribes on the borders of Rome.
>Heмeцкий
has the sense of "not speaking (our language)", reflecting the fact that Germans were foreign to the Slavs who first used this word. This kind of dichotomy where people refer to their own people as "the people" and foreigners as "weirdos who we can't understand" is extremely common (think of the etymology of "barbarian"). Germanic languages have it too: the opposite of Old High German "diutisc", from which we get "Deutsch", is "walh", from which we get Welsh, Walloon, Wallachian, and Gaul -- i.e. a foreigner, one who doesn't speak German.
>Saksan
Because bitch ass Uralics only knew Germans by the name of their swords and thus called them swordsmen.
>>461785
>>Saksan
>Because bitch ass Uralics only knew Germans by the name of their swords and thus called them swordsmen.
Doesn't it mean Saxon?
>>461792
Saxon means swordsman. The word for sword is seax.
>>461792
it does, which is where far away people would have got it from, but the word itself might have come from the seaks, which is indeed a blade
>>461785
>Because bitch ass Uralics only knew Germans by the name of their swords and thus called them swordsmen.
It is the other way around. They were "people of the sword" for themselves, but the sword-meaning was lost to others. Quite obviously, someone like the Uralics would not have called other people "swordsmen" using a word for a sword from someone else's language.
Vācija
>>461812
Lithuanian?
That's not a slav language for sure.
>>461792
Which is derived from their swords, the seaxa. With that same logic english and everyone calling them such are bitch-ass cause they use the name of a tribe which was already ousted by the normans.
>>461819
That's Latvian, buy yeah, not slav.
>>461751
Fucking, this. Germany shouldn't exist.
Deutsch just means duesh in german, and its what hitler called the average civilian.
>>461819
Vokiečių language.
Vokiečiai people.
Vokietija country.
In Lithuanian. Dunno about the origin though.
"German" is what several Germanic tribes from the European mainland referred to themself, regarding their common cultural components such as lineage and language --- > Teutonic order
Allemanni, Saxons and Franks are just different tribes.
The different terms for Germans are different because they were generated before the rise of the HRE, when the different tribes itself were predominant and had no common authority.
>>461785
>Allemande
I thought this referred to the Alemanni
>>461723
Honestly are you fucking retarded?
"omg y diffetent languages have different words woooow must b bc we r superioirrr lololol"
>>461852
>they use the name of a tribe which was already ousted by the normans.
Only the ruling class though. It is called England because the people living there are English. Otherwise it would be called Normanland or something stupid like that.
>>462406
it's called BRITAIN!!!!!
>>462406
>Otherwise it would be called Normanland or something stupid like that
Great Normandy, probably.
Like Grand Bretagne (Great Britain) vs Bretagne (Brittany), owing to the fact that both of them were settled by Britons/Bretons/etc.
>>461785
>"walh", from which we get Welsh, Walloon, Wallachian, and Gaul -- i.e. a foreigner, one who doesn't speak German.
it means the one who speaks latin or a citizen of the Roman empire
>>461723
>Allemande
comes from "Alemanni", a germanic tribe
>German
comes from "Germania", the latin name for what we now call germany
>Deutsch
according to online etymology dictionary, comes from "dutch", which came from Old High German "duit-isc"
>>461723
"Teutons" was a pretty common name fro Germans in French and English as well, it's somewhat derogatory now.
>>461723
>Americans
>Burgers
>Clapistani
>Seppo
>Yank
>Murrican
Deutsch is Germanic ethymology.
German is Latin ethymology (from Germania).
Allemand in France is from "alamants" (they were a german tribe). I guess it comes that Franks were germanic so they called the germanic in the east "alamants" which gave "allemand".
>>462468
Alemanni is a Latin name for a German group that was a mix of plenty of tribes and (Germanic) peoples.
