So was there ever a more evil nation than Imperial Japan?
>>45423
Nations are not evil
>>45423
Commie China, seriously.
>>45476
This desu. Though nationalist China wasn't far behind
>>45423
modern japan
>>45423
Communist Russia during the Stalin years.
Aztec Empire.
Sparta.
Modern N. Korea.
The Confederacy.
>>45423
>evil
value judgement, not history.
>>45423
I'd say that imperial Japan got the way it did by stealing and learning from western nations and letting it influence them in an attempt to have some form of international recognition and power.
Blame the west.
>>45423
Germany during the time of Hitler
>>45423
What all did they do? Ima just go off a whim and say the Nazis
>>47035
>western civilization forgot to say "Don't try this at home kids!"
Assyria.
>>45423
Any European country that's not accepting refugees.
>>45423
Good and evil are spooks
>>47113
How? Stalin killed more of his own people than germany did in both world wars.
>>47252
Not even close. Soviet oppression killed about 2 mil. All those exaggerated claims about Stalin and Mao's bodycounts come from speculations about people who may have died as a result of their economic policies, which is an absolutely retarded way of thinking about the subject.
>>47207
troll. go back to reddit. dont ruin this board
>>46565
> Aztec Empire
I have a theory that the reason British and Spanish colonists committed such horrific atrocities against Native Americans and their culture was because the first large group of them they ever saw were the Aztecs.
>>47383
Your theory is retarded because it is based on such an obviously incorrect premise.
>>47343
Only 2 million? Way more than that died in the ukraine alone due to starvation.
>>47377
The b8ers are from /pol/
>>47484
>ukraine
kek, ukraine doesn't exist, stupid hoholposter
>>47343
>ummmm, let's take the food from the people, we need it
>also, let's remove them from subsitence agriculture so they can work on jobs I consider important
>looks like millions have died from starvation
>well, can't do anything about that LOL
>mfw
>>47599
Even massively retarded mistake that kills millions of people is a mistake. There is a categorical difference between that and deliberate killing. You can debate which one is worse, but you can't argue logically that they are the same.
>>47343
>people who may have died as a result of their economic policies
so you fail to provide food for your people, which has been caused by your economic policies, and you are not responsible for their death?
>>47484
Stalin saved untold millions of people by forcibly redistributing grain from the breadbasket of Europe to the entire Soviet Union.
>>47428
I'm ignoring the Taíno as a civilization.
>>47639
Who is to say that it was a mistake?
>>47383
so if Pizarro came before Cortez would the spaniards say 'sup dudes kewl lamas hey you wanna help me kill these sick fucks further north from you?'
>>47639
We count results, not intention.
>>47383
What was so evil about the Aztecs?
>>47781
>Evil
>not intention
>>47781
No, we count intention if we are talking about intentional killing.
>>47793
Ripping peoples hearts out, cannibalizing them, and kicking the rest down an ego-tastic amount of stairs?
>>47755
Yeah, and Pizarro would've just let Atahualpa keep all his gold because Pizarro was a chill dude and totally not a greedy goblinoid monster who masturbated to pictures of money.
>this whole thread and no one has offered any reasoning supporting the initial claim
Imperial Japan did nothing wrong
>>47755
Would love to have a full timeline for that alternate universe.
>>45423
Ivan the terrible and his oprechnikki
>>47933
the military outright murdering civilian heads of government because they were revering the emperor incorrectly or to an insufficient degree was a wrong thing
threatening to murder yamamoto because he had the gall to offer restraint as to war/foreign policy was a wrong thing
>>47909
Hey, let's see you keep your hands off metric fucktons of gold when you have loansharks banging on your door.
>>47599
Doesn't China still consider this guy a hero?
>>48095
>head of the PRC
>capable of doing any wrong.
If you are Caucasoid (white & Indian) and defend Imperial Japan you are a cuc.k
they genocided ~100 000 whites and Indians
Israel
>>45423
Define evil.
>>47907
Oh I didn't know how much of that was true or if it was just sensationalized by Hollywood.
>>48095
>Cultural rev
>gang of four
They don't talk about him at all, really.
You just can't shit on him, obviously.
>>48229
no you faggot either answer the question or fuck off. or is this some faggot meme from a shitty board?
>>48260
It was a perfectly reasonable human sacrifice to the gods.
They killed prisoners, honorably.
>>48260
>sensationalized by Hollywood.
Mayan aren't Aztec, if you mean the Mel Gibson flic.
>>48229
being totally uncool.
>>47343
>All those exaggerated claims about Stalin and Mao's bodycounts come from speculations about people who may have died as a result of their economic policies, which is an absolutely retarded way of thinking about the subject.
The only nice thing about this board is that it brings out all the commies/marxists so we can make fun of them since normally they hide everywhere else.
>>47343
>>47205
We barely did anything evil.
We mostly just fucked up the Jews.
>>47639
so you've already made up your mind and nothing will convince you? ok
>>47639
You're saying that commies can't see past the front of their nose on any issues?
>>45423
Japan believed in (if patronizingly) Asian determinism, want liberated a series of states from European colonial rule. It empowered itself in the face of contention on all sides, and formed a respectable country, society, and culture.
Then the militarists came into power and advocated brutality, suicide, and stupid experimentation. But it was a small clique at best, and one not that different plenty of other ruling regimes in the developing world at the time.
Eviler nations would be Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, obviously, due to the sheer amount of people they killed and lives they destroyed for approximately the same reasons as Imperial Japan, but worse: the Japanese never tried to exterminate an entire group of people (Jews, Poles, capitalists, Ukrainians, gypsies, etc)
You had plenty of nations that did in the past, like Assyria, the Spanish in the New World, and certain elements of the Crusaders.
Then you just had regimes who were barbarous and treated both others and their citizenry worse than either, like the Aztecs, Tsarist Russia, Maoist China, Leopold's Congo, etc.
Find me one nation that didn't pull off fucked up shit anyhow. Especially during WWII. Remember the Atom Bomb?
>>48677
>Remember the Atom Bomb?
No I wasn't alive in the 40's
>>46565
>The Confederacy
kek
>>48791
Get out underage.
>>48825
>not being 70 years old
shiggydiggydoowop
>>46462
Yeah, I'd say anime is a much bigger crime against humanity than the Rape of Nanjing.
>>45423
The United States
>>48677
>But it was a small clique at best, and one not that different plenty of other ruling regimes in the developing world at the time.
Japanese people wholeheartedly supported their government and war. They were ready to die for the Emperor and country
>Japan is the center of the world, with its ruler, the Tenno (Emperor), a divine being, who derives his divinity from ancestral descent from the great Amaterasu-Omikami, the Goddess of the Sun herself.
>The Kami (Japan's gods and goddesses) have Japan under their special protection. Thus, the people and soil of Dai Nippon and all its institutions are superior to all others.
>All of these attributes are fundamental to the Kodoshugisha (Imperial Way) and give Japan a divine mission to bring all nations under one roof, so that all humanity can share the advantage of being ruled by the Tenno.
>>48935
US is pretty fucked up, and should be up there with Imperial Japan
their/your authorities have made a shit ton of coup d'etat's around the globe cause 'dude lmao this niggas don't like our policies, how about some democracy for them?'
Plus they are the main reason for Neoliberalism/New Classicals economic hegemony and gobalization, which has murdered the industry and culture of so many countries
Hell, and I'm not even counting the war crimes from WWII to Iraq/Afghanistan
>>49108
let me guess, its all the jews right?
>>47035
This, the empire of Japan was copying a successful model at the time of its founding. Unfortunately they did not realize after WWI the west decided this sort of imperialism was no longer acceptable
Easy:
British Empire
Roman
Aztecs
Mongols
US
>>49157
END RACISM
KILL ALL WHITES
>>49185
Imperial Japan was on pair with them when it comes to evilness.
>>49184
No that kind of Imperialism was perfectly acceptable the problem with the Japanese was the fact that they weren't white and therefore their growing power was a threat to Western hegemony in Asia.
>>49157
well, I'd say it's more complex and there are big structures and interests at work, specially from some important families and names that control the US/World economy to get benefits and keep their position
there might be just as much jews as white christians involved in this, but if you want me to go full /pol/
>IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF JEWS
>>49051
The Emperor was a puppet of Tojo and his ilk. The only reason Japan surrendered is because he finally decided enough as enough and didn't want to push their suicidal agenda anymore.
They supported the Emperor, sure, but the Emperor didn't really support what was happening.
>>49289
He authorised all sort of war crimes in China though. Hirohito's fate after WWII should be execution.
>>47252
>Stalin was worse!!!!
Is there really a "worse" among genocidial regimes killing millions?
>>49227
I somewhat disagree, of course a European power would have been able to get away with more, but there was a move in the west by nations like the US to slow or stop expansionist empire building.
>>49289
That's not true Hirohito was actively involved in the planning of the war. Tojo was nothing more than a scapegoat who offered himself up on the chopping block to spare the emperor from being tried.
>>49345
I don't disagree with that, but many leaders, Allied or Axis, slipped through the grate of firing squads that they deserved. But war's war. Shit's gonna get screwed up one way or another.
>>49362
Containment was designed to prevent Japan from becoming more powerful. The defeat of the Russians by the Japanese terrified Western powers, the idea that an Asian power could take them on in a war and win was inconceivable. That's why the Western powers were heavily involved in the peace process to make sure the Japanese didn't gain more than they could have and that's why in WWI they were given only paltry consolation prizes for supporting the Entente. This type of bullying and exclusion was one of the things the lead to the rise of militarism in Japan.
>>45423
No nation is inherently evil. What is evil was the rape, slaughter, and general war crimes that Japanese soldiers committed.
What Asians don't want to recognize is that Japan wasn't alone in being able to carry out awful atrocities. Plenty of Japanese citizens who happened to be in Shanghai during the outbreak of the Second Sino-Japanese War were literally torn apart by Chinese people.
Not justifying war crimes or anything, but people make the mistake of thinking the Japanese were uniquely cruel. They weren't, they were just Asian.
>>49620
I agree that the west treated Japan as a second tier player, but many blamed WWI on imperialism. Notice that most western nations put a hold on expanding their territory after WWI. Germany, Italy and Russia did some of this but were increasingly isolated.
>>49620
Japan didn't do jack in WWI. What they received was far in excess of their actual contributions.
>>47933
Violation of POW laws
Disregard for civilian lives
That's just war related
>>47933
t. weebshit
Imperial Japan was Soviet tier terrible
>>49886
Take your Eurocentric bullshit elsewhere. Asians are no more capable of cruelty as the Europeans and if history has shown anything it's the Europeans who have a sadistic streak.
>>49185
The Romans weren't evil as a collective. Shit if anything they were far more tolerable of those who fell under their domain who were not Roman either by blood or assimilation. Their syatems for the most part accommodated provincials as long as they did not outright defy or threaten the Republic/Empire
>>45423
worse than Nazi Germany tbqh
>>50839
>it's the Europeans who have a sadistic streak.
nope, chinklet
Unit 731 alone tops any white atrocity
Emperor Hirohito did nothing wrong
>>50913
>Shit if anything they were far more tolerable of those who fell under their domain who were not Roman either by blood or assimilation. Their syatems for the most part accommodated provincials as long as they did not outright defy or threaten the Republic/Empire
That means nothing, that was the policy of every successful empire. The Romans were morally evil because they had a thirst for conquest and their empire relied on slavery to function and survive.
>>50985
Right because wiping out entire civilizations in the Americas, enslaving and exploiting African slaves, the creation of concentration camps by the British and the experiments conducted by Nazi scientists on prisoners somehow don't measure up to that one thing.
As I said fuck off with your eurocentric bullshit.
>>45423
Nope, nothing more dedicated is better to say.
>>46565
>The Confederacy
:^) New Reddit board?
>>45423
Those that defeated it.
You don't really believe the good guys win in reality do you?
>>50839
>Asians are no more capable of cruelty as the Europeans
okay
>and if history has shown anything it's the Europeans who have a sadistic streak
>Take your Eurocentric bullshit elsewhere
you know, the ironic thing about 'eurocentrism' is that it has no problem with centering itself around europe in highlighting its sadism and savagery. yet if you actually took the time not to be so eurocentric in your own readings, you would know that
>it's the Europeans who have a sadistic streak
is a crock of absolute bullshit.
you're either a self-flagellating whitey or a white-hating colored. ideologically, of course. either way, kill yourself.
Guys, I've been interested in the military of Imperial Japan, any good books/videos?
Nazis were probably worst. They killed 6 million Jewish and gypsy people.
>>51046
By that logic every Empire is evil then, though most modern empires don't outright own slaves the exploitation of those under the Imperials rule still constitutes immorality
>>51291
>>51119
>that one thing
>what is rape of Nanking
>what is Japanese imperialism
>what is Rwanda
>what is the fact Africa has more blacks owning black slaves than the US ever had total slaves today
>what is female genital mutilation and child sex trafficking
If anything, you're the Eurocentric here. The only crimes that matter to you are white ones.
>>51119
>because wiping out entire civilizations in the Americas
Incidental and inevitable.
>enslaving and exploiting African slaves
Yeah, only the Europeans did this!
Okay then.
> the creation of concentration camps by the British
The British exacerbated pre-existing issues, they did not cause them themselves. Try again.
>and the experiments conducted by Nazi scientists on prisoners
Unit 731 muhfugga
>As I said fuck off with your eurocentric bullshit.
Is this a troll post?
Please be bait. Dear god.
You are literally being Eurocentric in believing all mass cruelty in the world revolves around Europeans' actions. That is Eurocentric you mongoloid.
the country that has a treaty to have no army came from Imperial Japan.
They got nuked. imperial Japan has to be the biggest victim in the history of nations. The Mao era of China is a better indication of evil with book burning and devolution of technology.
But yeah, Japan attacked Pearl Harbour successfully because of America's racial reasoning that Jap's couldn't fly planes because of slanted eyes.
>more evil than America during racism of the past 400 years.
>>51319
Reminder to report shills.
>>51370
Aye aye sir
>>46565
>the confederacy
WE WUZ WARRIORS N SHIT
MUH BUSHIDO
Whats so bad about the Aztecs?
>>46565
the second union jack flag that is flown today, is during the era of lincoln trying to free the slaves, and is flown to this day because of people protesting slaves having freedom. it's racist.
It might not have started as racist, but to this day that's what people remember it for, knowingly or not.
Stalin, Aztec and N Korea are good examples, but Sparta was more liberal then other countries and treated there serfs well and treated there women with respect. The worst they did was raise there children freely which is something that socrates stole in his Republic, as an example of a great culture.
Sparta had it's shit together.
Most Evil Nations is because of a central figure, either a God or a dictator. Either the Emperor of Japan, seen as a God like N. Korea, or the God's of the Confederacy or the Aztecs.
The fallible belief in the failable being infallible is the root of evil. If falsehoods can be truth, then truth is evil. Sparta showed the beliefs in their God's went as far as practically needed, and would circumvent it if needed, as shown in the battle of Thermopylae, when the gods said to not goto war, and Sparta still went.
>let's apply modern morals and mores to the past where the norms were different: The Thread
Take your revisionism and moral relativism elsewhere, idiots.
>>51475
Killed men every day to please the gods, some times in the thousands. Never invented any technology just focused on war, and raped the cultures around them. As well as their women.
Never seeked peace as a fact of religion.
Why Cortez didn't have trouble getting allies to fight them, even though they were foreign, everyone and i mean EVERYONE was sick of their shit.
>>51596
b-b-but the spanish! MUH GENOCIDE
>>51569
Sparta is still used today with our modern morals. Some are universal. Sun Tzu is another example. Stupidity is universal. We learn from the mistakes, based on what we know now.
Where the fuck else would you have us goto too look at history, you idiot. It's /his/
GO BACK TO /pol/
>>45539
Both sides were seriously harmed by distrust in their own people
And it's Japan's fault that they drove China into such chaos so in the end everything is Japan's fault
>>50839
>it's the Europeans who have a sadistic streak
How are those human rights treating you, lad?
>>51636
I never mentioned that ... Aztecs were far wrose then anything the Spanish did, the Spanish just did more of it quicker. They didn't do it alone, almost every tribe that could send troops did. It wasn't a genocide, it was a revolution. Not even a revolt, but a full on toppling of the previous ruling empire, for good reasons. The Aztecs might have been the biggest cultural leeches in the world.
On the other side of the fence the Mayans which have some of the finest mathematical studies of the stars the world would see until galileo and such.
>>46565
>The Confederacy
>>51650
>GO BACK TO /pol/
Honestly you faggots are the worst. You're shitting up the board everywhere with this "I can't debate reasonably without crying and shitposting" rhetoric.
I don't like stormfaggots either but YOU'RE the cancer, friend.
>>51569
This.
Japanese soldiers treated people cruelly because their army's system of discipline was so brutal, so it normalized cruel treatment.
>>50839
Yeah but that's not a nation... that's a continent. So we could lump Europe vs Asia and who do you think is infringed on more peoples moral rights.
Including the French Revolution that brought about the modern age of freedom and democracy you enjoy today...
>>51475
Like the Spartans there empire grew on the bacls and bodies of their neighbours. These people were enslaved, sacrificed, and killed for sport. Second class doesn't even begin to describe the position of their fellow mexican compadres in Aztec society. Cruelty was praised when dealing with their enslaved peoples.
This is why the Cortez managed to defeat them so easily. The fact that they were technologically superior wasn't the only reason they could do it. The enslaved and degraded neighbours of the Aztecs helped the Spaniards conquer the Empire. Much like the raising to the ground of Sparta by the Helots.
>>51742
>>51396
>>51227
>>48804
the butthurt american that don't know about Slavery as one of the biggest Evils of earth, and had the biggest sources of slaves that couldn't ever be free with 5 niggers for each man woman and child in the confederacy, and over half died to America.
Yeah damn right that's on the list.
definitely the third reach since they started world war 2 and perpetrated the holocaust
>>45423
modern day Israel
>>51291
If they wouldn't have Europe would be jewrop by now. It's sad man but It's good it happened.
>>51823
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>51865
>if I disagree with its shitposting
>>51820
M8 the first slave owner was black, and he fought to keep his slaves. not to mention the blacks sold each other into slavery in the first place.
>>51550
>Sparta treated it's slabes decently
Nigger am I reading this correctly. They jad numerous Helot revolts. The Ephors designated a national holiday annually to curb the slave population through executioms and murder. It was the Helots eventuality that saw to it that sparta was burnsd to the ground ans the land upon which it stood was salted.
>>51820
do you realize how far behind in civilization we would be if we didn't have slavery?
slavery fueled agriculture and the economy
>>51823
You know what, yeah, that holocaust was like the Aztecs need for war but was pretty illogical Why. Loved blonde hair arians with a brown haired leader.
But also they did not have the discipline or organization of the Spartans. They were just stupid ignorant fools that could make decent cars and vehicles, and after the war blew up their economy more with inflation, just showing not only cruel but also stupid.
God only knows how devoid our culture would be if they were to rule ANYTHING as large.
>>51886
What if you disagree with its shitposting
>>51865
That's Ironic/Shitposting
>>51820
Every race has enslaved one another throughout history. This doesn't make the Confederacy any worse than anyone else.
>>51886
come on m8, you're not even trying
use less obvious bait next time newfag
>>45423
ISRAEL
>inb4 anti Semitic
>>51923
>do you realize how far behind in civilization we would be if we didn't have slavery?
>>45423
Nazi Germany, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Russian Empire, Soviet Union, Peoples Republic of China....
>>52001
upvoted my fellow redditor friend
>>51954
Yeah sure such a great guy
>>52001
This guy gets it
>>52027
every nation uses interment camps during war
the US had them too
>>52049
US wasn't exterminating the inhabitants of its camp
British Empire
germany.
>>52082
neither was Germany
>>48851
doowopdoowopdoowopdoowopdoowopdoowop
that bring you back, old man? sit down a spell you might overexert yourself
>>52129
Meanwhile every historian disagrees with you. The holocaust happened. It's an accepted fact
>>51889
Yup, and still for 400 years the owners were white. So black people sold black people. But they were not buying it. First is only important when you're posting on a youtube comment section.
The first person to rape a child is not responsible for all rape ever. Also 400 years of it as a basis of economy. You forget the history of it. Because most of it is white washed and spun for propaganda purpose, which only goes to show it's inherent evil.
You could also cite the smaller brains, or specific regions of the brain that make Blacks want/need to be ruled. there culture of war, which is unique because no other culture in history has ever gone to war. Or cite that they were given freedom and never used it, because the racial profiling that comes natural to all humans is gone, and they chose to be poor EVEN BEFORE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. it's all incidental evidence, that was made up by liberals secretly trying to get America to fall to usher in Communism.
Seems stupid to say that today, but that was life. Even Darwin's Origin of Species was used to prove that Black people were monkeys, like all white people came from Dolphins.
You can cite so much for it, and even say smoking is healthy for you, it cures tuberculosis! Cocain treats mental illness, and other such claims.
Historically slavers were seen as evil, as far back as in Jesus's time. If you believe in that sort of thing. Revolts happened because slaves didn't feel justified as humans.
America created a super power economy based on 400 years of slavery and could even be seen as the source for the white supremacy of Hitler's Germany.
So when I say slavery in the United States started World War II, that kinda says USA is the evil that makes OTHER evils, and the fact that after Obama got into office, you could say slavery is over, except for the fact that American's still are racists against black people because in their society they use to be the lowest ranked 'citizen'
>>52047
>strawmen
>horrendous crimes committed daily by African people against each other
>inb4 colonialism makes Big Man Buntu own female child sex slaves
OK senpai, time for you to stop posting.
>>51925
>Loved blonde hair arians with a brown haired leader.
Stop this fucking meme that Nazis wanted to gas everyone in the world that didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes.
>>52129
Nice sources.
>>52159
lol
glad to see this board is off to a good start...
>>52194
same to you friend :)
>>52197
reported for
1) announcing reports
2) raid from reddit/tumblr
3) shitposting
>>52129
What? White supremacist America inspected White supremacist Germany, and found nothing wrong?
During the time of lynching and banning interracial marriages. No....
When did America join the war? after Imperial Japan Attacked because they Americans were sure they couldn't fly planes because of 'slanted eyes'
>>52183
What a complete pile of Pseudoscience/psuedohistory bullshit
>>51348
If you're implying that Europe didn't cause irreparable damage and harm to the world through the fires of colonialism then you're fucking delusional. The state of the world now like the chaos in Africa and the conflict in the Middle East were directly caused by colonialism.
>You are literally being Eurocentric in believing all mass cruelty in the world revolves around Europeans' actions.
In modern times absolutely and in the context of this thread the word Eurocentric is used to justify the cruelty and savagery of Western societies while admonishing and demonized the cruelty of other cultures. So yes I am fucking right in telling you to fuck off with your eurocentric bullshit.
>>52236
>waaaahhh stop disagreeing with my nazi propaganda
Stay in your containment board
>>52241
>White supremacist America
why post on a history board when you know nothing about history?
i doubt anyone would consider the FDR-administration as "White supremacist america"
>>52241
I'm not even on his side but everything about your post is retarded.
>>52262
>waaaahhhh stop disagreeing with my jew propaganda
get back to reddit
>>52190
And yet despite your denial history and geopolitics proves me correct.
>>51923
Bullshit, slavery was seriously overrated. The south was economically underdeveloped compared to the north. They lacked railroads or serious industry. Poor whites were kept out of work because they couldn't compete with slaves, and a handful of rich plantation owners wielded way too much influence. They would have been much better off if they had shipped the Africans all home.
>>52047
>implying Africa amounted to fuck all compared to the rest of the world even before colonialism
>>52194
The picture is correct tho.
Like I believe the holocaust happened but the claims of the picture are correct, just search up all the camps man.
>>51953
>Every race has enslaved one another throughout history.
No they didn't stop trying to apply a Western aberration as a universal action.
>>52294
This board is for history. As in actual events confirmed and accepted by the public ie the Holocaust.
Nice antisemitism now back to pol with you
>>52194
you mean the meme perpetrated by Nazi?
The meme about a Master Race of Übermenschen?
The meme of inferior Untermenschen?
I didn't start that f*ing meme madame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race
It's part of /HIS/tory.
But your argument is noted as being both witty and charismatic in future readings in my memory, and I parried with the best of 'em this day.
The meme has existed since before my time, or my fathers time. But I'll make sure to censor it to not offended any more Neo-Nazi's in the future about Himmler and Hitler being Untermenschen.
White-supremacist need to be respected more, they got such a bad rap for some reason?
>>52345
Did I deny that? Or were you simply trying to come up with a retort but all you could amount to was putting words in my mouth?
>>52338
I'm not going to argue that the Confederacy was particularly evil in the context of history though.
>>52306
>appeal to authority so I don't have to critically examine atrocities committed by people of all colors
>i'll just straw man about da evil white man to make myself feel better
Whats it like to be retarded, anon?
>>52353
>Blacks have never enslaved blacks
>Whites have never enslaved whites
>Native Americans have never enslaved Native Americans
>South Americans have never enslaved South Americans
Are we living on the same planet?
>>52369
History != as reported by the popular media
History means the close, unbiased analysis and research of the event that occurred in context.
What you are taking for fact is the biased reports of the winners of WW2.
History becomes more clear overtime and it is becoming more and more clear that the Holocaust was blown drastically out of proportions and lied about.
>>48804
Confederacy is arguably worse than the based Aztecs.
>>52353
b8 post I hope
>>52371
>wanting an ethnostate for Germanns means you want to eliminate everyone without blonde hair and blue eyes
Show evidence that Nazis had the fucking capeshit supervillian scheme to exterminate everyone on the planet.
>>52475
the Aztecs are arguably worse than the based Confederacy
>>52249
Exactly. That's racism for you. I frankly
(all data is as of the 1860 census)
Total number of slaves in the Lower South : 2,312,352 (47% of total population).
but really, you make some good arguments, and address some fine points. I fail to have any counter points to your blant swearing and use of descriptive words that talk about nothing in particular but generalizations.
You truly must have a few PHD's
>>52371
>wikipedia
2/10 bait
try harder next time
>>52472
Except the accepted view among western nations is that 6 million Jews were killed in death camps built and operated by the nazis across Europe.
You should check out the national holocaust museum and even learn a thing or two
>>52531
>6 million
holy shit come on dude, you can't possibly believe this
you can't be this indoctrinated
even the official jewish census disagrees with you
>>46462
>confederacy
Nice addition. Time to watch it trigger all the racists.
>>52472
>History becomes more clear overtime and it is becoming more and more clear that the Holocaust was blown drastically out of proportions and lied about.
No, actually... if anything more and more evidence for the holocaust is uncovered all the time.
http://www.livescience.com/44443-treblinka-archaeological-excavation.html
>it is becoming more and more clear
What you're referring to here is that on your hugbox of subhuman obese failures you repeat more and more that the holocaust was a lie using the same tired, debunked propaganda. This is how /pol/ thinks, and this is why you're banned from posting here.
>>52371
Right... I don't consider myself a Nazi sympathizer but what you are saying is factually incorrect.
>>52413
By your logic books and learning are for fags
Go back to /pol/
>>52275
...
maybe if you grew up in USA and not in Canada.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Franklin_D._Roosevelt#Accusations_of_racism
Accusations of racism[edit]
Internment[edit]
Further information: Japanese American internment
Executive Order 9066, which sent 120,000 Japanese expatriates and American citizens of Japanese ancestry to be confined at internment camps, has been charged by critics as being racist. The Supreme Court upheld its constitutionality.
Treatment of Jesse Owens[edit]
After the 1936 Berlin Olympics, only the white athletes were invited to see and meet Roosevelt. No such invitation was made to the African American athletes such as Jesse Owens, who had won four gold medals. A widely believed myth about the 1936 games was that Hitler had snubbed Owens, something that never happened. Owens said, "Hitler didn't snub me--it was [Roosevelt] who snubbed me. The president didn't even send me a telegram."[47] Owens lamented his treatment by Roosevelt, saying that he "wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President."[48]
Segregation[edit]
According to Bruce Bartlett in his 2008 book, Wrong on Race, Roosevelt segregated his African American and white servants by forbidding them from eating meals together at the White House.[49]
Ku Klux Klan[edit]
When Roosevelt appointed Hugo Black to the Supreme Court he knew that Black had been a member of the Ku Klux Klan. In a memo written by Black decades later, Roosevelt did not express any disapproval of Black's past Klan membership. In private Roosevelt told Black that "some of his best friends and supporters he had in the state of Georgia were strong members of that organization."[50]
Anti-lynching legislation[edit]
Roosevelt did not enact or even speak in support anti-lynching legislation that would protect African Americans from violence, due to fears of losing support from Democrats.[49]
>>52597
>Nazi Germany allowed different races to die for them as cannon fodder
What a compelling argument you simpleton halfwit
>>52583
>>52574
I know seems like a high number and you're skeptical about it but bad things happen in this world and 6 million Jews getting exterminated is just another bad thing.
>>52574
nah man I watched schindler's list and I have to say it looked pretty bad dude.
>>52260
And if you legitimately think the world could function like it does today with the rapid commercialization of countries as a direct result of colonialism, you are fucking delusional.
>The state of the world now like the chaos in Africa and the conflict in the Middle East were directly caused by colonialism.
Nonsense.
Complete fucking nonsense.
Go ahead and prove it, demonstrate the direct link between the situation of those shitholes currently, and the direct causation of colonialism in that.
I'll be waiting.
> the word Eurocentric is used to justify the cruelty and savagery of Western societies while admonishing and demonized the cruelty of other cultures
Jesus you're even bending the definitions of words to fit your incredibly retarded argument, are you straight from tumblr? Straight out of HIS-101? Because you sound like it.
>>52646
It completely smashes le Master Race. Why would they allow them to join and put on a German uniform? Why wouldn't they just ship them out plain to fight?
>>52348
Pol fag here. Very few people ever say "holocaust never happened lol," it's the 6 gorillion bullshit most of us are wary of.
>>51953
The confederacy was trying to keep it goin even after other shitty countries realized it wasn't cool. The confederacy formed for the purpose of evil so its definitely up there.
>>52183
>American's still are racists against black people because in their society they use to be the lowest ranked 'citizen'
>blacks in all government positions
>black CEOs
>black celebrities
>black athletes
>FUGGIN RAYSIS ASS CRACKAS
>ctrl f "austro hungarian"
>0 results
>>52678
>Why would they allow them to join and put on a German uniform?
Because apparently they were a lot smarter than you and understand how to actually make use of a person as cannon fodder.
You remind me of the people who "criticize dialogue" on /tv/ despite having no idea how human beings communicate.
>>52643
It was also during the FDR-administration that Hollywood was ordered to stop depicting black actors in subservient roles and to depict all races as friendly towards each other by the US Office of War Information
>>52691
And yet /pol/ believes Stalin killed 100 trillion.
>>52734
The truth is there never was a "Master Race". It's just bullshit propaganda spread around by victors
You obviously forgot the part about 500 years of slavery. Not every race gets a head start in life
>>52501
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race
really, this is the first you've heard about this...Übermenschen
>>52765
>muh victors
Hilarious watching 30 IQs from /pol/ latch onto various platitudes, genuinely believing that any hypothetical explanation for how they aren't wrong means they aren't wrong.
>>52721
I guess racism in sports ended once a single black guy got play baseball with the whites huh.
>>52583
Bears repeating, because while it's easy to get sane people to reject stupid factless holocaust denier-history, they're surprisingly successful at spreading stupid, baseless, holocaust denier-historiagraphy:
Recognition of the importance of the Holocaust did not come until after the war. Israelis and Jews found it shameful in the 40s and 50s, and Americans, Britons and ESPECIALLY the Soviets did NOT need new reasons to hate the Nazis. They had that in spades.
And even into the 1980s, there was significant academic pressure from the East Germans to depict the racial ambitions of the Nazi Party as hollow and superficial. The real motivating force of the Nazi party was the crisis of capitalism, and it was for this reason the German Ruling class installed Hitler and lead him into a war with the Soviet Union.
Recognition of the centrality of Anti-Semitism and the destruction of the Jewish people to Hitler and Germany's war aims has increased over decades, a governments around the world spent the decades after the war downplaying it's existence and importance.
>>52633
Fucking kek
Fine job defending African child rapists friend. ;^)
>>52659
nah
>>45423
Khmer Rouge era Cambodia.
Because however bad Imperial Japan got, you probably weren't in danger of being killed because you wore glasses.
>>51956
this so fucking much. i mean look at what these pieces of shit are doing. evil fucking jews
>>52519
you want me to source books that you don't have? since Wikipedia is seen as more credible then Encyclopedias I can't find a more unbiased source...
we still in the early 00's that distrusts wikipedia, then read the f*ing sources
>>52597
what part and why
>>52821
That's a decent strawman you have going
>>52668
The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one. No I won't give you a link because you've already made up your mind and you don't give a fuck about any point of view other than "Muh Masterrace". There are literally hundreds of academic papers proving my statements as truisms and could easily be found doing a simple search. But as I said you don't give a fuck because if you did you would have already found them yourself.
>Jesus you're even bending the definitions of words to fit your incredibly retarded argument, are you straight from tumblr? Straight out of HIS-101? Because you sound like it.
Nitpicking is poor posturing. Try again.
>>52436
>Liberia enslaved blacks
>rome enslaved other whites
>white washed natives definitely did
>your a retard
>inb4 cite. look it up yourself you lazy fuck
>>52821
>>52765
I know there was never a Master Race, never a Holocaust, Never was Dinosaurs, and never was France.
Also Vampires are real, so are Dragons, Zombies are just black people, and Halloween is propaganda started by Pagans to give children candies to fatten them up to eat them.
*Citations needed*
>>52901
>Your a retard
>Can't even grammar
>Doesn't know that Mayans and Aztecs enslaved people
>>52876
It's not a strawman, it's literally the main form of arguing on /pol/.
>If I can conceive of some hypothetical context in which I'm right, then I'm right
>History is written by the victors, therefore all negative information about Nazi Germany is victor propaganda
You really have to be so profoundly unintelligent to not understand why your shilling is banned here.
>>52907
I'm dying baka desu senpai ayy lmao kekold
>>52901
Why can no one on /his/ understand a basic post
Isn't reading comprehension one of the things academic historians always brag about
>>48677
>Remember the Atom Bomb?
HOW ABOUT THE FUCKING CONTAINMENT CAMPS LITERALLY NO ONE SPEAKS OF EVER
>>52850
>muh jaypeg disproves accepted fact.
Even Germany themselves admitted to it
>>52876
no wait, i'll respond with one sentence.
>Troll'd
This is such a rejuvenating conversation. I must be talking with a human.
>>52989
Do you think if Nazi Germany had won the war the historical narrative would be they were terrible Jew gassing racist baby killers?
No?
So you understand the nature behind the platitude of "History is written by the victors" now, congratulations.
>>52889
>can't provide a single source
>spouting the eurocentric buzzword and bending it to suit his own, hypocritical definition of it like he's fresh out of sophomore
>refuses to acknowledge the necessary benefits of infrastructure and commercialization that came from colonialism
>MUH EVIL WHITEY, MOST EVILIST RACE IN THE WORLD, HE'S WHY I AIN'T DOIN WELL!
Not my cognitive dissonance, bud.
>>53049
big fucking surprise there, they were only controlled by the allies for 40+ years.
>>53097
Thanks for proving my point
Go back to /pol/ retard
>>52765
Thank, you I was looking for evidence that USa didn't Start the Master Race in the 1800's and that that philosophy didn't afflict Nietzsche's work when he was sick and his cousins boyfriend doctored his work to be white supremacist.
You answer is much more simple, and explains a lot more, like WWII or racism in the USA.
Also the Illuminati are our friends.
>>53137
>uh uh
>go back to /pol/
Whoa shit, you sure showed me how colonialism led to the current state of the third world.
>>53116
Why would they even detain Jews if they weren't going to kill them? It'd be more productive to have them work in the economy than taking care of them?
6 million Jews died and it's been proven
>>53137
Keep defending African child rapists retard
>>53095
The Nazis objectively were racist baby killers whether they would have denied it or not after winning the war. You think saying "History is written by the victors" means actual events don't occur. Inbred trash.
>>52049
>every nation uses interment camps during war
Most nations don't use 'em to exterminate people, sure people starve to death if supplies run low, but that isn't the objective of operation... usually.
>>53097
wait colonization in Africa, or in the USA?
USA as a colony is bad, but Africa is good.
then uses racial slurring meme to prove that racism isn't a source of hatred towards others.
interesting i'll have to read the rest.
>>53191
I could give two fucks what you "think" you know I'm telling you how it is
>>53206
wth, did you just change the picture from Michelle Obama....
>>53193
The plan of internment was to keep any potential jewish subversives from causing damage (much as the US did to Japanese) and then facilitate the relocation of jews to Israel after the war.
>>53193
Because they didnt like they Jews, they were going to be expelled from Germany, if they intended to kill them they could have just locked them all in the camps with no water, then waited 4 days and gone in to clean up the corpses.
>>53137
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>>53262
2sppoky 4 me, no I did not
>>53254
>I'm the one with the facts you white troglodyte, how dare you try to claim those previously colonized countries have any agential influence over their current circumstances
Wew.
>>52699
>be the antebellum south
>have a largely agrarian society that has clearly defined racial hierarchy
>north constantly shits all over you and you have no say in congress/senate
>the tarif of abominations is passed by the northern dominated senate, despite every southern state voting against it
>starts to cripple southern economy because it's Fucking impossible to export cotton to our Brit bros, and importing shit is insanely expensive now
>try to say "fuck off, state rights, bitch" and seceed peacefully
>fort sumpter happens
>north goes apeshit and mobilized for war
>beat them back originally, stop pursuing them and never raze the capital
>try to get Europe to join us, but good old Abe one ups us politically and straight up emancipates all the slaves since europoors were not cool with us still having slavery (think about that for a second, Abe gave two fucks about blacks, he just did it so the south couldn't get reinforcements)
>north say "fuck no," comes back with a vengeance and burns the south to the ground once they got their shit together
>be today
>state rights are constantly fucked out of existence by an ever growing federal government
South wasnt as evil as everyone likes to pretend they were. Sure slavery wasn't great, but it wasn't a hell hole either, as most plantation owners wanted their slaves to be content/productive. The war was all about state rights, and the north Fucking up so badly that the country split, and they had to fight a war to re unify it again.
>>53316
>Implying
They actually don't because despite losing their empires the former colonial powers have zero desire to see their former colonies slip out from their spheres of influence
>>53416
>literally denying the agency of billions of people and entire continents
This must be some sophisticated bait.
Because I refuse to believe anyone is sincerely this retarded.
>>53473
Well if anyone could believe that you could form letters into words and words into sentences then anything is possible.
>>53619
hohohhaahahheheh hey! hahaha lol!
>>51923
Not for the Spanish and the Ottoman Empire and Mongolians that make the North America look like child play
>>53556
>reverse image search
>biblebelievers
>endzog
>holohoax
>stormfront
Back to your containment board. Your shilling is not welcome here.
>>>/pol/
